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Finally something useful emerges from Broken Britain
Posted by mojoworking on 3 April 2011 - 1:06pm.
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Finally?
That picture is from years ago.
I never said
the joke stood up to close scrutiny ;-)
Something useful?
An old Etonian making wage cuts?
Or an illiterate oik with his hands touching his willy?
How are either of those useful?
Yeah
I love da wiggers lik dat guy, dey is sooooooo funny, get me?
Cameron does look like a guy slightly pissed from a lunchtime session returning to his office with his tie in his pocket
Is it broken?
Things may be a long way from perfect and for some people, times are grim. But I still wonder why we bang on about "broken Britain" like it was something new that only happened in the recent past. Even in our current woes, we still have a better standard of living and better public services than at any time in the past. And compared to many in the rest of the world, we really don't have all that much to complain about. So why are we talking ourselves down so badly?
Mmm... All things considered, I'm not sure I'd want to
live anywhere else.
"Broken Britain"
was a phrase that Cameron himself made great effort to bury into the public consciousness. Like it's sibling "the Big Society" I rather think it may come back to bite him quite badly in times to come.
Yes, it was just a focus group catchphrase
which was debunked by the Economist -
http://www.economist.com/node/15452811?story_id=E1_TVQVNRTT
traditionally a right-leaning publication, but even they had to admit it was bollocks.
As you say, Cameron might have dug a hole for himself as some of the traditional Tory-supporting papers are still using the phrase.
Unfortunately it is what we are good at
Talking ourselves down I mean. I loathe this government but for all their faults they are infinitely preferable to us being governed by someone like Mugabe or Gaddafi. At least we can vote them out when we get the next opportunity. There are many things that I feel make it good to live in this country and to be proud to be British. However things that depress me about this country? Yob culture, binge drinking idiots trying to fight anyone and everyone and litter. Drive you car in any rural area of this 'Green and Pleasant' land and see how much litter there is by the wayside. It is a national disgrace - you don't see it in other European countries or in USA/Canada so why here? Lack of pride I suspect.
Lack of pride and
respect, too: self-respect and respect for others. Pride and respect. Two very unfashionable words.
Not mad on Cameron
But I'd prefer to share a lift with him than that loser.
No, don't tell me.....likes McDonalds, Hip Hop, Lager, talks like a Jamaican even though he's never met one, and supports Man. Utd. though he's never been north of Watford, let alone Manchester.
No, not Cameron, the loser guy.
Am I close?
hate to p on your c's
as I generally agree with what you wrote, but the photo was taken in Wythenshawe, Manchester.
Will be
a City fan then.
Ranger!
Ranger, you (s)knob...
I'm trying to find the right words to articulate my anger at the smug self righteousness of your post. Can you post a picture of yourself so that we can pontificate on your lifestyle?
No wait, maybe I can guess;
likes Carluccio's or that nice pub on the river that does a lovely gourmet Sunday roast, Americana and 'new folk', a nice Valpolicella, talks in a faux laid back Estuary drawl, even though he lives in the Thames Valley, supports Arsenal because they play the beautiful game and he's a football tourist..
Am I close?
You make all that sound like a bad thing.
Carluccio's and a nice Valpolicella sounds a very agreeable way to spend a Sunday lunchtime.
I also like a nice pub by the river
And Valpolicella and many other things.
I am not David Cameron.
Judgement of people you have never met is very silly...see the earlier thread about silliness for details!
Smug & self-righteous, meet same
One of the joys of not living in the UK is keeping distance from knee-jerk defenses of any aspect of 'working-class' culture, regardless of how ugly or self-abasing. It's OK to dislike Cameron because of his high birth, his gentle upbringing and his politics but one cannot - indeed, must not - say anything to suggest that Mr.Hoodie and his juvenile gesture indicates a less-than-sterling mind or personality.
This is why Tony Parsons was so roundly roasted for saying something which seems so obvious to many: that the working class folk of yesterday - like my parents, who left Edinburgh without a pot to piss in - had decent manners, dignity, self-respect and an ethic of hard work. They were, to use a long-discarded cliche, the salt of the earth. I don't know Mr.Hoodie, but somehow none of those qualities shine through in that photo.
As we know, in times past..
There was never an underclass which caused the middle-classes to wring their hands and complain about the collapse in moral standards and how this sort of thing shouldn't be happening. There was no crime, everyone respected the policeman, no-one was impolite and the sun always shone.
Think back a little. Imagine the Brighton mods -vs- rockers dust-ups happening today. Imagine punk. Imagine teddy-boys ripping up seats (and each other)with straight razors. Imagine the howls of moral indignation.
Sometimes we have to stop thinking like Daily Mail readers.
Proves my point
Speak critically of any problems within working-class culture and get branded a fascist.
Yes, I know what being labelled a DM reader is short-hand for.
Not at all.
I'm saying that the DM view is that, somehow, everything was better at some mythical point in the past when the truth is a long way from this.
No, I don't think that's
what Lenny said at all. All he pointed out was that it's a mistake to think that's it's any different now, however bad things are either now or then
The photograph
was taken when Dave toured around a Manchester estate. The press and TV were out in force so the local twerps were playing up for the cameras. It was all around the time of Hug A Hoodie. For all I know he could be a computer games designer now and drives a flash car. Anyone else not done something daft in front of a camera?
The camera
is a moot point as the over riding factor would have been impressing his mates.
And yes, we have all done that for sure. Mos def.
this guy?
Yo! Plebs
We is all in dis ting together, yeah?
Would it really matter if one of these men died?