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Fear of flying
Posted by Native on 17 August 2011 - 12:05pm.
I absolutely hate flying; the whole experience - from getting to the airport, being told to "stand there - move to there - wait here etc", to taking off and landing.
I fly about three times a year and avoid it where possible. I work in the north but have to travel to the south coast on a regular basis, and although a flight woiuld be quicker, I always get the train.
I don't know what happened? It seems to be as I've got older, I've become really reluctant to fly.
Anyone else hate flying or have any tips on overcoming the fear?
BTW, I seem to be a much better flyer when nicely inebriated!
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Same Here
This may be of some help to you:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/learning-to-fly
Anything domestically or to Paris/Brussells
Take the train. Time saving by flying isn't anywhere near as significant once you include travelling to the airport, checking in 2 hours before your flight departs, waiting at the luggage carousel and then getting a bus train the 25 odd miles from the airport to the city centre where you're travelling too. The train is far more pleasant and civilised.
When I have to fly (States mainly) - I load up the iPod with a few films and have a good book. Seems to avoid me needing to actually think about being propelled in a highly pressurised over sized cigar tube at 650mph over the worlds second largest ocean at 33,000 feet.
Flying
I hate it too. I tend to avoid it nowadays. Funnily enough, the last time I flew (to North America) I was terrified for weeks leading up to the flight, and absolutely beside myself on the morning in question, but once I was on the plane and the doors shut, I was fine. The flight back was a piece of piss.
The anticipation is usually worse than the reality.
Went through
a period about 10 years ago of being pretty scared due to an aborted landing at Toronto. It lasted for about 3 years and then completely disappeared. Just as well because I make around 20-25 flights per year including holidays and business. Over the years I have spoken to a couple of commercial pilots and it is more than obvious that it is a completely safe form of transport making any fear completely irrational. I found this thought helped me 'if it was dangerous to fly would a pilot put his own life at risk?'. Certainly helped me dismiss my fears.
Safety
I too believe that flying is completely safe. But like many with a fear of flying, I'm not worried about crashing, just about being stuck up in the air, unable to escape. A claustrophia thing more than anything.
Whereas...
... I'm not afraid of flying but terrified of crashing.
A-ha!
We can go on a flight together and cancel each other's fears out.
Good point...
"'if it was dangerous to fly would a pilot put his own life at risk?"
It's a good deal safer than driving yet most of us happily put our own lives at risk every time we drive a car.
Yep
I've driven racing cars with no fear whatsoever. But tell me I have to fly and I'm terrified. It's irrational, but human beings are irrational.
Temporary fear
I had a few bad years after a flight to Amsterdam in the mid 80s.
It was perfectly normal flight and the landing approach was very smooth. However right at the end the pilot really whacked the plane down hard on the runway. Everyone jumping out of their skins as we headed towards the ceiling, and grateful for our seatbelts doing their job. Obviously it was well within tolerances as the plane taxied to the terminal without a problem.
I didn't linger too much on it, other than telling my friends when I met them. On the return flight, as we came in to land at Heathrow I suddenly found myself sweating furiously, heartrate right up into the red zone, praying for the plane to touch down. This time around the landing was at the other extreme and I was still praying for the wheels to hit the tarmac when I realised we were down as the engines went into reverse thrust.
Like Steve for a few years I had quite a bad fear, but it gradually wore off and I'm fine with it now.
A little bit of info
from talking to a pilot recently: Whilst uncomfortable for the passengers a big, heavier landing is much much safer than a smooth, gentle one. The reason being that when you're on the ground it's the tyres that are doing all the work keeping you in a straight line, braking you and so on. You want as much contact as soon as possible, If the plane lands gently and smoothly it may be much nice for the people in the back but there's more chance of the plane losing control.
So it's quite normal and well within tolerances - the planes are designed to land like that. Personally I reckon it's amazing that landing several hundred tons of something onto tarmac from the air is still so relatively gentle.
Absolutely.
The days of the "I didn't feel it touch down" landing are well behind us. The modern thing is to smack the plane down very smartly. Especially with the big buggers which generate so much ground effect that it is a major effort to get them down. The big Airbus A380 takes, apparently, a lot of avionics working very hard to get it to sit firmly down on the Tarmac.
Yeah claustrophobia for me
but I just hate all the hanging about and waiting.
Wish you could just stand at a plane stop, plane comes along, everyone gets on til its full up, everyone sits on fold down seats in first class or stands up holding onto those things they have in the underground in coach.
And for a little extra they can belt you in and administer knock out gas that lasts until you reach your destination. Can use the same oxygen masks used in an emergency and you wouldn't need to alter it in case of crash cos you'd rather be unconscious.
If I fly to Dublin mingle I will really be suffering for you bastards
I used to hate flying
but then got rational about it. Basically have a look around at the airport - look at how many flights and planes there are. Then consider how many airports there are in the country you're in, each with as many planes and flight. Then think of how many planes there are all over the world, how many flights per day. And how incredibly little goes wrong.
It's good to know a bit of the science behind the whole thing - to know that it's going to get a little bumpy when you go through cloud, what the bangs and whirrs are, how the plane descends from height - and think about those rather than the irrational. A lot of it is IS about relinquishing control - but you do that everytime you get on a bus.
If that doesn't work: drinks trolley.
A bit of science
When I contemplate the science is when I do find it a bit frightening.
I look at the wings and contemplate how the disrupted airflow over the top wing is going to allow this metal tube with all the weight of the fuselage and wings, engines, fuel, undercarriage, passengers and crew and luggage to rise off the ground. It doesn't seem possible, yet it very obviously is.
I used to hate it
I've had some terrible experiences. Oddly, as a child I loved it, and with my parents living abroad I used to fly a lot and enjoyed the whole thing.
Then about 15 years ago I was in a terrible storm over the east coast of the US which was so bad we to had to emergency land. Stewards were physically pulling people out of the loo and forcing them into their seats, the plane dropped lots of feet and all the lockers fell open,masks came down. I really thought it was the end and it put me off for ages. One bump and I'd be the one on my knees, praying.
But as the years have gone by I've got over it, and with my wife being a frequent flyer through her work and member of all these clubs and loyalty programmes, etc., being upgraded every flight and being able to use the lounges worldwide makes all the difference.
Florida
I was on a similar flight to Florida at about the same time. We were redirected from Orlando to Miami, and it was one of the half dozen worst flights I have ever had.
Being upgraded does help - sadly never happens to me anymore.
Fear of flying is not rational I know, but it if helps I have flown hundreds of times and I'm still here.
A genuine question...
How does sitting in Business or First Class make flying less scary?
I can see how it would make it less uncomfortable and a more pleasant travelling experience but its still the same plane and is no less (or more) likely to crash if you're sitting up the pointy end :-)
It doesn't really
It's just a nicer way to travel.
And Paul - were we on the same flight? It was horrific. But we were diverted from Miami to Orlando.
If you're not a little bit scared of flying...
...however calm you might be in the outside, then you're a fool.
My wife refused to get on a plane for 20 years, then did a British Airways fear of flying course, which worked magnificently. They were talked through the mechanics and the voodoo of flying by their most trustworthy-looking silver haired pilots. (One of the pilots said, 'When I started flying, flying was dangerous and sex was safe. Now it's the other way round.') Then they were taken on a short flight. Nothing like taking off among a plane full of screaming people to make you think things aren't quite as bad as all that, apparently.
Anyway, she was left with a massive sense of achievement, and a piece of paper she could show to cabin crew on future flights so they were aware. She ended up in the cockpit for a landing in Oslo once.
So worth you thinking about if you can't beat it on your own.
I was terrified
When I started flying about 20 years ago, I was terrified and the only way I could manage it was to have a couple of stiff ones at the airport and top up with in-flight service(ah pre no-frills flying).
I gradually got over it.
It has been replaced by feelings of inhumanity, indignity, humiliation and hightened stress levels from being hearded on to no frills flights by RyanAir supervixons and suffering something just short of strip searching from airport security.
Stressed with such questions as:
is the shampoo in the check in luggage.
Is the check in luggage over weight.
Is the hand luggage too big.
have I printed my boarding card.
Is Faro the airport that RyanAir use for Rome.
How many miles is it from Departures to the boarding gate.
The only thing which helps is to wait until the last minute.
Stroll on hand my bag to the RyanAir supervixon (sorry steward/stewardess) and let them find me a seat.
When I sit down I am too knackered to be scared.
How I dream of the old days and topping with the in-flight free ones up to dampen my fear.
Aaaaargh! Nooooooooo!
You have uttered the trigger phrase for my fear of flying: "Ryan Air".
Is Faro the airport Ryannair use for Rome?
No but I believe they land in Denmark for Stockholm or in Sweden for Copenhagen. Not sure which way round.
I had a therapy client
who was a commercial pilot, had been for twenty years. He'd been in the RAF prior to that. He became very panicky about flying over water - a problem, unless you're happy sticking with internal flights - so his airline sent him for some sessions. They were paying, and the idea was that he'd get over the fear, go back to work, and all would be well. He did get over the fear but then realised that he'd never fully relaxed in his whole life until this point (relaxation being part of the therapy), but had been ridiculously stressed 'staying strong' as a pilot. As a result, he quit the job and decided to retrain. He was delighted, the airline less so.
Thanks for that
The idea that a pilot, formerly of the RAF no less, could develop a fear of flying helps me feel a bit less like a big wimp, and a bit more like someone with over-sensitised nerves.
To quote Orson Welles:
"There are only two emotions in a plane: boredom and terror."
Flying
for me is fine.
Airports, however, make me sick.
It's not even the security that bothers me, it's the whole assumption that everyone is moneyed and revels in disgusting demonstrative wealth, just picking up some diamonds before flying first class to Fucking Dubai.
Don't they realise they let scum like me in.
The only thing to do is get mortally pissed.
I Love My Job
but hate the flying. I'm not scared stiff, just bored stiff. However the airlines dress it up, it's a bus with wings. It may have been glamourous years ago but it ain't now.
Beam me up Snotty!
Don't mind flying
but just hate the enforced boredom of airports.
I avoid flying whenever necessary, and I hate going abroad for that reason. Standing around for hours on end and taking your shoes on and off and humphing wads of documents and tickets around? What's all that about? Do we really need all that security?
I wish planes were more like buses. Just turn up and wait at a stop and then get on one.