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Favourite Obscure Football Fact
Posted by Fraser Lewry on 11 June 2010 - 9:40am.
In the 1930 World Cup Final between Argentina and Uruguay, in the days before teams of FIFA employed scientists to produce an official tournament ball, each nation had a say in ball selection.
In the first half, Argentina played with the ball used in the Argentinian league, and were 2-1 up when the whistle blew. In the second half, the players switched to the standard Uruguayan ball, which was slightly larger and firmer. Uruguay won 4-2.
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Hang on
just let me turn to the back page of Word magazine....
Heh
Serves me right for not having read it yet.
I heard the other day...
....that the Dutch are the tallest nation represented in this World Cup. That doesn't mean they've got the tallest team. It means the Dutch are, on average, taller than any other nation taking part.
And in the group stages they play Japan...
..who are apparently the smallest.
Yes
and as well as teammates, they are all boyfriends also
As always, the I Hate Nerys Hughes (From the heart) Hitmakers...
How many of yous lot know
That song by Blackfoot Sue
“I’m Standing In The Road”
Was penned by the burly physio
Of non-league Farnborough Town
In 1998, AIK won the Swedish Premier League (Allsvenskan)
and thus became Champions of Sweden by scoring an average of less than one goal per game (25 goals in a 26-game season).
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 AIK 26 11 13 2 25 – 15 +10 46
You wouldn't think it would be possible, would you?
I have
An AIK t-shirt and fridge magnet.
amongst their other debts (£119 million)
Pompey owed pukka pies £40 at the start of the financial year.
This guy's dad
played for Celtic.
And
Kidderminster Harriers
in 1958
Wales got to the Q-finals without winning a game. They lost 1-0 to eventual winners Brazil (Pele scored).
Ad did Ireland
at the 1990 World Cup before going out to Italy in the QF
And Scotland
departed the 1974 World Cup without losing a game
Liverpool...
... used to be a big club.
Clem Cattini - drummer and Rigby to the stars
He is the guy who has played on more number records than anyone else. (Is the man on Paul Weller's current album).
He is also one of the landlords to Arsenal's young players who relocate to London and live with a surrogate family. His last big name to live with him - Nicklas Bendtner.
He does this job cos he is a long-time friend of Pat Rice. He also plays in the club's in-house covers band and plays at the end of year concert when young players sing to the 1st team.
Its not my favourite, but its all I can think of.
Trevor Oakes, founder member of Showaddywaddy, sired two professional footballers - Scott and Stefan.
Julio Iglesias
has a more impressive footballing CV than José Mourinho. He played in goal for the Real Madrid youth team.
Yeah...
... but Mourinho's a better singer.
Pavarotti
Didn't Pavarotti play football? or did I just make that up?
No, you're right
Pavarotti was a goalie *cue fat jokes*
that bleedin' Camus
he played in goal too. joined us lads at The Fevvers in our sunday team. Bored everyone silly wiv his going on abaht "the absurdity of the 'uman condition" or summink. Don't worry about that mate - stop flappin' at bleedin' crosses yer muppet.
Poor Albert
always The Fall guy for a gag
Just down the road from where I live
In 1993, HFS Loans League team Congleton were forced to call off a minute’s silence to mourn the death of the club’s oldest fan...when he walked into the ground.
Three England Captains
Have played for Scunthorpe.
Answers on a web-based postcard.
Keegan
Clemence
Botham
Which Man U player
is also a german newspaper?
Frankfurter Allgemeine
Doesn't make many first team appearances, mind...
Gerry Daly
IS that right?
Yep
Have an up.
Jimmy...
Rimmer?
Who is the only player...
... to score in a Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow derby?
.
.
Is it
Andrei Kanchelskis?
Correct...
... and well done!
Due
to a bizarre motorbike accident in the Yorkshire Dales that left him without the ability to speak for a month Richard Hawley's vocals for half of the tracks on Coles Corner were provided by Terry Venables.
Proof provided in the first couple of lines of Tel's latest platter:
Brazil legend
Garrincha - lost virginity - goat
...
Dogger - westerly - moderate or rough
Is that
a Stan Collymore reference? ;)
Liverpool XI
The first team ever fielded by Liverpool FC in 1892 was made up entirely of Scottish players.
And was supported
entirely by Irishmen and Scandinavians.
Emirates
Since moving to the cursed Emirates site Ars*n*l have never won a trophy
1961
Since winning the double 49 years ago in 1961, Sp*rs haven't even come close to winning the league title again. Achieving 4th place last season was seen as a major triumph by all at the club.
(Well, you started it Johnny!)
woolwich
cheated their way into the then first division of the football league, and nowt's changed since
When England first played Scotland...
The English were shocked to see the Scots passing the ball to one another. Up to then, the English tactic had been to take turns dribbling the ball individually towards the goal and seeing how far they got before being tackled.
Alex Ferguson took a pay cut...
when he moved from Aberdeen to Manchester United.
The official name of the 1962 World Cup ball
was "Mr Crack"
Which is only an extra letter different
from Graham Taylor's official name when he was England manager.
The Boatengs
Kevin Prince Boateng (of Portsmouth and Ballack breaking fame) will line up for Ghana at the World Cup and will likely face his brother Jerome Boateng, who will be playing for Germany.
Goalfest
On the same day in 1885 that Arbroath beat Bon Accord 36-0 in the Scottish Cup to set up a British senior record, Dundee Harp defeated Aberdeen Rovers 35-0. According to some reports the referee counted 37 goals, but accepted the club's tally, something they bitterly regretted later that evening when news of the Arbroath result reached Dundee.
Was this the start
Of that great Scottish goalkeeping tradition?
Scotland have had some great goalkeepers...
... and some disasters; in the interests of balance, I give you this –
Rob Green
Is Rob Green's howler up on YouTube yet...?
Indeedly-doodly
About 1:00 in
Scottish Goalkeeping Tradition
Do you maybe want to rethink this one? Or is your head held high?
I have always suspected a betting scam with that one
Just saying, like.
Hull City
is the only team in the top 4 divisions in England that you can't colour in any of the letters
Really?
Is that true? I so want it to be true! You deserve an arrow for that little nugget..
Thanks for that
- that'll surely ease the pain of relegation :-)
You can
if you write it in the font that The Goodies used. Just saying.....
There's always one! ;)
----
Likewise
Millwall is the only team in the top 4 divisions which, if you write its name in capitals has no curves.
CHILE
........and Chile is the only team in the World Cup that can't be coloured in when written in capitals
Sorry folks not sure what all this obsession
with "colouring in" is all about but seeing as you've all been good this should keep you all quiet before the game starts, go and find your crayolas and make sure you don't go over the lines!
Fraser!
Next Word magazine cover...sorted!
The Leagueliner
Does anyone remember this train, with it's disco, fom the 1970's?
I came out of the toilet to have the door slammed shut by the motion of the train.about an hour later I noticed a long line of people in some discomfort waiting for the occupant to come out.I kept quiet.
What's the connection between
Ferrari,biro, a ball and a rosary ?
Whats the connection
I have never put a biro up my arse.
Newport County
When they were in the league all their home matches kicked off late, 3.15 to be precise. This was because the docks closed at 3 p.m. and it allowed the dockers to walk up to the game.
Steve Archibald
The only footballer to appear twice on TOTP in one night... once with the Scotland team and once with the Spurs team in 1982.
Corinthian Casuals
Formed in 1884 their aim was to produce a team capable of challenging Scotland at international level. 4 years after their formation they provided 9 of the starting 11 against Scotland. Their constitution stated they were never to play in any competition (and they didn't until playing in a fore runner of the Charity Shield in 1900). Between 1883 and 1890 52 of the 88 caps awarded for games against Scotland went to Corinthian players and twice an England team comprised only Corinthian players. In 1904 they inflicted the heaviest defeat suffered by Man Utd (11-3).
Steve Finnan
Has played in the following competitions...
World cup.
Champions league.
UEFA Cup.
All four English divisions.
La Liga.
The Conference.
FA Cup.
League cup.
FA Trophy.
No other player has played at all these levels. He scored once for Liverpool meaning he scored in the top 5 flights of English football and only one other player has done that.
St Johnstone
Is the only first class club in England & Scotland with a 'j' in their name
Athens
Is the only city to have had three teams in the Champions league group stages in the same season (Olympiacos,AEK,and Panathanaikos 2003/04 season)
Could be equalled by London next season.
Dundee
The only place in Britain to have two clubs who have reached the semi-finals of the European Cup.
Grounds
...and the Dundee and Dundee United grounds are the 2 closest grounds to each other in the UK...just across the street from one another
What about London?
Chelsea, Arsenal?
European Cup
I think honestman deliberately referred to the European Cup, as each country usually only had one entrant in those days, unless a club from that country had won it the year before.
It's a little easier in the Champions' League given the multiple entrants from the bigger countries.
right you are then
I still think of it as the European Cup, largely because they are playing for the ssame trophy.
Me too!
And, even as an Arsenal fan, I still don't think it's right that anyone other than the Champions of each country should play in a competition called "The Champions' League".
However, I recognise the naivete of that view in these days of money-first-football-second.
It may be naive
but there are many people who agree with you.
and Tottenham
Lost by the odd goal in 7 to Benfica, European Cup semi final 1962. Spurs hit the woodwork 3 times.
spurs
spurs..and im sure som eother following clubs
Michael Laudrup...
... played for Real Madrid in a 5-0 win over Barcelona. He was playing for Barcelona when they beat Real Madrid 5-0.
The name of the jeweller's shop in Bogatá...
that Bobby Moore was accused of stealing a bracelet from in 1970 was 'Fuego Verde'.
The first televised game...
... was Arsenal v. Arsenal Reserves at Highbury in 1937.
Was it on...
... Sky or terrestrial?
I'm surprised ......
.... that Wenger hasn't revived that fixture. It would probably restore his eyesight.
Same old Arsenal media bias
Amy Lawrence would have been proud.
0-0
Arsenal v. Arsenal reserves eh.
Wasn't 0-0 by any chance?
Johan Cruyff
had no feeling in his feet due to a childhood farming accident and wore specially made boots, one much heavier than the other, so he could tell which foot he was using on the ball without looking at his feet.
I hope that's true its wonderful
I want to Google it but I'd hate to find out its not quite the truth
That is......
Genius, very very funny !
French Stars William Gallas and Thierry Henry
are the same age to the day, both having been born on the 17th August 1977.
Juventus play in black and white stripes...
... as a result of having to borrow kit from Notts. County.
and Arsenal play in Forest's cast-offs
though they did something funny with the sleeves.
Noticed when visiting the Camp Nou that Notts County and St Mirren played in the inaugural tournament there...
Forest also gave the world...
Shinpads, corner flags, throw-ins and the ref's whistle. And Jason Lee.
Don Revie changed the Leeds Utd. kit...
... to all white because he said if they look like Real Madrid they might play like Real Madrid.
Real Madrid
Changed their original kit in 1902 to copy Corinthian Casuals.
Germany
The first international game Germany played after the second world war was against Ireland. Their kit went missing before the game so the Irish lent them some of their shirts. As a gesture of good will to the Irish the Germans adopted the green shirts and white shorts as their away colours which they still use to this day.
I'm afraid that's an urban myth
Germany have green away kits because green is the colour of the DFB (German FA).
I'll take your word for it...
although it's printed as a fact in Jeff Dawson's book Back Home: England and the 1970 World Cup, which I'm reading at the moment through a recommendation from someone on here, sorry, can't remember who, good book though.
Big Jack Charlton
When in charge of Middlesbrough apparently wanted the team to start playing in white too but this didn't go down too well with the club. The compromise was the white chest band.
Charlie George and Stan Bowles
were at Nottingham Forest together under Brian Clough.
Not sure if it's obscure anymore
as it was the BBC world cup coverage just now, but Joe Gaetjens the scorer of US's goal against England in 1959 world cup was sadly kidnapped and murdered by one of Papa Doc Duvalier's death squads in 1964, his body has never been found sadly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gaetjens
Argentina
Most sendings off (all-time, team)
Argentina (in 64 games)
Most sendings off (final match)
1990: both Argentina (v West Germany): Pedro Monzón, Gustavo Dezotti
Most cautions (all-time, team)
Argentina (in 64 games)
Longest suspension (player, doping)
15 months, Diego Maradona ( Argentina vs Nigeria, 1994)
Sent off from the bench
Claudio Caniggia ( Argentina), vs Sweden, 2002
Possibly not favourites for the Fair Play League, then...
Aberdeen FC
First team to be knocked out of European competition on pens ... 1970/71 European Cup Winners Cup ... beat Honved 3-1 in Aberdeen, lost 1-3 in Budapest, 4-4 after extra time, Honved won on penalties ...
I was a teenage armchair
I was a teenage armchair Honved fan.
My team are the only club to
My team are the only club to score 6 goals away from home in a league game and lose. Answer? Huddersfield Town, we lost 7-6. The manager at the time was Bill Shankley. At the end of his final season he asked the board for some transfer funds as he felt we needed a couple of players become a real force, his request was denied. He went to LIverpool, a smaller club at the time and did quite well.
I think I'm right in saying that ...
Europe's seven biggest urban conurbations have yet to produce a European Cup /Champions League winner - London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Athens and Istanbul.
(I know they haven't produced a winner, but I can't be arsed checking if they are actually the biggest conurbations).
The goal-net...
...was invented by a Liverpool engineer called John Brodie. His patent was similar in every important respect to the nets used today, except that it had bells on it.
Literal or metaphorical bells?
Fab fact that one
They were...
...literal bells. Brodie had been at a match at Goodison Park where there was a dispute about whether a shot had passed between the posts.
It was explained in detail in a programme in the Radio 4 series The Long View about technology in sport a few months ago.
No that anyone cared
Ferrari,biro, a ball and a rosary ?
They've all played in world cup finals
Ferrari (Italy 1934) Biro (Hungary 1938 ) A Ball (England 1966 ) and Paternoster;a Rosary (Argentina 1930)
I cared
I just couldn't come close to thinking of the answer!
FA Cup
The 1973 FA Cup Final (Sunderland v Leeds) is unique. It's the only FA Cup final to have been played with an orange ball.
Emlyn Hughes' kids
are called Emlyn and Emma Lynn
Noooooooooo
...say it ain't so
doesn't Neville Neville
retrospectively win this one?
Not a footballer though
Although he was on the board at Bury FC I think
One Of Bowie's absolute best songs that
Once heard him on Radio 1 on Mark & Lard going on about the most recent Northwich Victoria home game to a very perplexed caller (the Dame may have been primed who knows...)
And he keeps a couple of sheep....
.... female sheep, actually, and the only thing they'll drink is low carb lager from the 1980s.
They're Hemling ewes.
You worked throught the night
to come up with that, didn't you? :-)
Eric Nixon
is the only player ever to have played in all 4 English divisions in the same season.
>
I think Tony Cottee might have done that as well.
He started at Leicester, then had a spell as Barnet player-manager, got sacked there and had some loan games at the end of the season at a couple of other clubs.......though don't quote me!
Swindon Town
Is the only club in the league who's name contains no letters from the word Mackeral
Hmmm
.....
More pertinently, maybe...
Dundee is the only team in England and Scotland not to contain any of the letters in the word 'football'.
There's a 'U'...
...in 'futbah', though.
Only football team mentioned in the BIble?
Queen of the South
You forgot
Reading, Forest, Corinthians, Hearts, Wolves, Palace and Bury. :)
Not to mention Cloughie
Or at least he was in the King Brian I version which was used in all Nottinghamshire schools in the late 70s/early 80s when I was at school. If only he hadn't learned the "water into wine" trick...
Hector Castro
Scorer of a goal in the first World Cup final had no right arm below the elbow after an accident with an electric saw.
Yeah,
tackling was tougher in those days...
The most "Merseyside" club; and the most literary one
Hearts are the only club named after a novel, Sir Walter Scott's Heart Of Midlothian.
Stockport County's is the nearest ground to the River Mersey.
Tsk, fnuh, pfft...
Hearts are named after an Edinburgh dancehall which was, in turn, named after the Sir Walter Scott novel... and the club badge was based on the cobble mosaic on the High Street (shaped like a heart) which is at the spot where the old tolbooth used to be...
Probably
What did Sunderland do
one year which was followed by Villa the next?
Cup final goalscorer
Cup final goalscorer
Except...
Sunderland scored in 1979, and Villa in 1981.
Just sayin'
(Brooking scored - with his head - in 1980)
- both correct - a bit dogeared
that one
Brooking scorin' wiv 'is 'ead is pretty obscure I spoze
What's the other pub quiz favourite about teams with unique suffixes
eg Villa, Hotspur,Wednesday...how many in total?
19 +3 (in England)
I reckon it's these 19:
United
Town
City
Wanderers
Albion
Rovers
Argyle
Hotspur
Villa
County
Forest
Wednesday
Athletic
Rangers
Alexandra
North End
Orient
Dons
Stanley
Some people claim that these 3 count too, but I reckon they're part of a place name so 'ineligible':
Crystal Palace
Port Vale
Dagenham & Redbridge
I might be wrong
but I have vague feeling that there is no place called Port Vale. It is just the football team.
no, you are not
Port Vale, as a place ,doesn't exist anymore. It was once a port on the Trent and Mersey Canal.There is a Port Vale Street opposite where it used to be.
Port Vale fc are based in Burslem,Stoke-on-Trent and why anyone would support any other team is beyond me.
Can I add
Celtic
As in: Glasgow Celtic and Stalybridge Celtic
The other pub quiz question is teams that start and end with same letter (and Celtic is one of 'em)
There is no Glasgow Celtic
The club's name is Celtic, the others are valid but not the original.
i know
Aston Villa
Northampton Town
Liverpool
Charlton Athletic
Scotland
East Fife
East Stirlingshire
York City
is another one.
and from next year....
...Borough (as in Stevenage)
Not forgetting...
... WOOLWICH Arsenal. About time they went back there.
That would be
That would be a PREFIX, Johnny, not a SUFFIX...
Ahhh
but when it was a prefix it originally made Ars*n*l a suffix
Fair
enough.
Nah, mate
Woolwich is in Lahndon, not Suffix...you plonker! :-)
Glasow Celtic
Won the European Cup with 10 players born inside the Glasgow City boundaries.
The only exception, Bobby Lennox, was born in Ayrshire. Now THAT is impressive. Also Glasgow holds the highest aggregate crowd for attending two games on one night....in 1971(?) Celtic played Milan at Parkhead (EC semi final) and Rangers were up against Bayern (ECWC semi final). Something ridiulous like 200,000 people attended these two games...I was one.
Elton John
only agreed to be involved in The Lion King because he thought it was called the Brian King and was about Mr Clough. By the time he realised, he had signed the contract and couldn't do anything without incurring hevay costs to break the contract. This explains why the music is so poor because he then treated the whole thing as a contractual obligation.
Joe Louis...
...was on the books of Liverpool FC.
The oldest registered professional footballer was...
... the Rt. Hon. Michael Foot. He wore the number 90 shirt (his age when he became a registered player) for Plymouth Argyle.
Emmanuel Petit's annus mirabilis – Arsenal and France, 1997-1998
This isn't very obscure, but it's possibly been forgotten.
This description is taken from the Guardian:
In 1998, Emmanuel Petit won the double with Arsenal before heading off to his native France, where he scored the final goal in the World Cup final.
Eight days later he strolled into a Monte Carlo hotel with his then fiancee, Ariane, put a 10 franc piece into a fruit machine and found himself £17,000 richer.
A fortnight later he won a nationwide poll to find the sexiest French footballer.
On the downside, towards the end of the year he broke off his relationship with Ariane.
On the plus side, he started a new one with Miss France 1992.
To round off the perfect year, that December he appeared in the Christmas special of The Bill.
I always wondered
who stole my life.
Mostly swings and couple of roundabouts
Didn't he lose his brother that year as well?
Allegedly inc or urban(e) myth
Various grizzled sports hacks have told me that Liverpool - allegedly - didn't sign a certain maverick Teddy Boy because blood tests showed he had an STD. High blood pressure was cited as the reason for the deal falling through
If I remember correctly
He explained, in his autobiography, that the Liverpool deal fell through due to 'too much high living'. Which sounds about right.
very
itchy high living
Grimsby Town
Grimsby Town play every match away from home
(Home ground is in Cleethorpes)
Arsenal...
... are the only team in the top division not to be promoted on playing merit
Yawn
Everton won the league
in the seasons before the outbreak of both the 1st World War and the 2nd World War.
Football trivia
Ian Ure is the shortest name of any british professional footballer.
Oh, I don't know...
I'm sure lots of viewers have been shouting the name 'C*nt' at the match just now...
Stub
As a teenager in the 70's Ted Chippington (aka Frank Smyth) had a season playing left back for Port Vale reserves. He had to give up football after stubbing his toe on a goalpost in a last ditch clearance incident. He took up comedy instead and the rest is history.