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Famous People you have met who are wankers.
Posted by gelectrox on 12 February 2010 - 3:04am.
I met Paul Oakenfold about 10 years ago at my uni where he was djing. He was a massive Bell End.
What about yourself?
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Roger Cook...
..."Don't you know who I am" he said, when, as a Homebase employee, I was unable to direct him to the particular brand of hosepipe coupling he required.
Did you....?
Did you immediately make an announcement over the tannoy along the lines of "Customers, we have a gentleman in Aisle 12 who doesn't know who he is. If anyone can help... etc"
I think you should qualify your statement.
There's more than one famous Roger Cook you know.
I presume you mean the corpulent champion of consumer rights rather than the writer of umpteen sixties and seventies single hits.
Blimey, no wonder
he's confused then!
Corpulent champion chap...
...I'm sure the other guy would be much nicer.
Didn't 'meet him' meet him...
...but Cook was dining in the same hotel restaurant as me back in the mid-90s. He was a complete pain-in-the-arse, look-at-me-everyone-I'm-famous! turd to the staff. And he woke me up later that night as he drunkenly passed my hotel door shouting 'Goodnight!' too loudly to his buddies.
It almost makes you glad for all those beatings he took at the hands of crooks and shysters
Roger Cook?
Never heard of him, but I think you can get up to 6 months for the offence.
A year...
...if Roger Moore's involved.
myself ?
well never been called a massive bellend but certainly equivalent terms
Aren't most people onanists...
these days?
Well, John Mayer is
by his own admission. Which makes me rather like him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/john-mayer-on-jennifer-an_n_429...
I defer to ganglesprocket's first hand experience
as it were, below, but I rather liked Duchovny after this interview
http://duchovny.net/articles/playboy2.htm
for similar reasons
In his defence
I worked with Paul Qakenfold in 1990 and found him to be very friendly and undemanding unlike many so-called top DJ's.
Wankers--- have worked a lot in venues and clubs i've come in to contact with quite a few muso/DJ's. Here's my wankers list
1) The Brand New Heavies,absolute prima Donas. we'd worked with Bryan adams the night before and he was a gent.
2)Bobby Gillespie-did the Don't you know..... I told him to look under the collar of his jacket to see if his mum had written his name there.
3) Darren Emerson (Underworld)..not a nice man
4) The Macc lads --Spend most of the night stealing stuff
to balance that here are 4 people who were wonderful to deal with
Joe Brown(lovely man) Charlie Harper (UK Subs) Norman Cook and Kid n Play (Rappers)
My sister used to work in Bobby Gillespie's local
Can't really repeat any of the stories she told me about him.
But he does sound like a wanker of the highest order.
Bobby Gillespie
was in the outer orbit of my social circle in early 80s Glasgow.
And yes, he was a wanker. With a capital "W".
Quentin "Norman" Cook
is famously a delight to be around. He even thanked me when I lobbed a copy of a fanzine I'd made into his convertible beemer as he passed!
Wankers I have met
Wankers:
Roger Cook (tried to hold me personally liable for his additional car parking charge as I would not allow him to queue jump in the Our Price I was working in at the time)
The Wonderstuff (just deeply unpleasant)
Seal (his aid insisted I shut the record shop and usher out all other customers so that his "star" could browse without being harrassed - I ponted out that no one in the shop knew who he was, and if they did, they really weren't that bothered)
Jeremy Clarkson (possibly the most unpleasant individual I have ever met)
The cast of Casualty circa 1992
Lovely people I have met:
Julian and Dorian Cope (a gentleman and a charming, beautiful woman)
New Order (just lovely. All four of them)
Martin Phillips of The Chills (slightly embarrassed by my hero worship but a great fella)
Gabrielle Drake (genuinely touched and grateful when I told her how much her brother's music meant to me)
Peter Gabriel (painfully shy and self conscious but really, really nice)
Thom Yorke (treat him like a star and he gets prickly - treat him like a normal bloke and he's great fun)
Flesh on the bones, please!
Can you elaborate on the Wonderstuff and Clarkson? How did their wankerliness manifest itself?
Yeah!
This deserves an article! More! More!
Miles Hunt
I've met Miles on several occasions, and he's always been a lovely bloke, if a bit full of himself.
Same here......
Had the pleasure of Miles Hunt's company a fair few times and always been terrific fun. One Fleadh at Finsbury Park being particularly memorable!
Marilyn Manson was also addictive company. Really into his music and chuntered enthusiastically on for hours about Numan and Depeche Mode.
The guy that plays Ron Weasley in Harry Potter. Deeply, deeply unpleasant. Sent his driver in to check out the venue I was working in before it was deemed up to Weasley standards and then demanded free stuff.
Michael Caine was nice as pie when my son (then 3) wee'd on MC's shoes in Harrods. MC said "never mind son" in his very best Alfie voice and wiped his expensive loafers down with some toilet roll.
Can you imagine yourself...
in that little boy's shoes when,just before you think you're about to get rowed at,Michael Caine tells you "never mind son..."? That is so brilliant an anecdote John.Thanks for that.
Rather the little boys shoes...
than Michael Caine's.
How often
Does your son get reminded of this? Is he old enough to have a girlfriend and be embarrassed in front of her as the family recall the occasion.
Reminds me of
Caine's own story about meeting John Wayne and the advice he gave him never to wear suede shoes
You're in the restroom, said The Duke, and there's a guy next to you and he looks across and *mines turning in mid pee* 'John Wayne?!' and the bastard pees all over your shoes
Not yet......
He's 9 now. Has girlfriend in Class but rather curtly and I thought, coldly, said yesterday he intended to dump her. Apparently another girl in the class has an older brother with a better supply of Match Attax cards. Grandad and Nanna were also present at this event so, at some point, it's guaranteed to be rolled out. Looking forward to its' first outing IMMENSELY!
The Stuffies
came into my shop in hereford. I was never a fan, but one of my best friends, who was recovering after a serious car accident was a huge fan. I picked up one of their records from behind the counter, politely approached them, explained to them about my friend and asked if they would sign the album so I could give it to him as a gift to cheer him up.
It wasn't the fact that they bellowed "fuck off" at me that upset me so much, but when I turned and walked away, they burst out laughing. I have never, and will never buy anything which features any of those tossers. Not difficult, though. They were shit.
Can't say too much about the Clarkson thing, except that I witnessed him reduce a pretty young sales girl to tears when she could not supply him with what he was asking for immediately. It was awful. It wasn't so much what he said, but the way he said it. His face contorted in that horrid, condescending, smug little snarl he has. It was awful to watch as the more unpleasant he got, the more frightened and confused the poor girl got. There is never any excuse to talk to someone like that, not ever. This was not someone having a bad day. I have bad days, but I never speak to people like that. This was the behaviour of a spoilt, pampered, deeply unpleasant human being and I still refuse to watch any TV program which features him.
Never mind an article
surely there's a book in this sort of stuff?!
To borrow a joke from the late-great-Peter Cook, it could be called
"When The Fans Hit The Shit!"
Which reminds me...
I was working in a bookshop in Hampstead when Peter Cook came up to the counter in the most disgustingly dirty t-shirt I've ever seen, (like he'd forgotten to change after a shift at the abattoir and then someone had been sick on him) put down the book he wished to purchase and looked me in the eye. Double-take from yours-truly - big fan. PC managed to convey in his reaction I-know-you-know-who-I-am,-that-I'm-in-a-disgustingly-dirty-t-shirt.-Great-isn't-it? We did not exchange a single word, but both went away happy ha ha.
Peter Cook
Lovely story. I once stood next to him reading the postcards in a newsagent's window, also in Hampstead. If only I'd looked around, I too might've seen that legendary garment.
To be fair to Clarkson
...which is not the start of a sentence I ever thought I'd write....
but that is his job, isn't it ? Professional ill-informed opinionated shit.
I saw them by mistake
in a small club in 1988.
Hunt was so up himself, like he had what Rotten had, and the rest.
We heckled the bastards.
They tried to top the heckles and failed.
Said hunt and his scruffy mates were susequently threatened with violence. (not by me)
Shat it and ran away.
I have been reliably informed...
... that The Killers are deeply unpleasant.
David Tennant I met briefly before he was Doctor Who. He was a very nice man.
I once had to speak to Soloman Burke on the phone. I felt like someone talking to God. He was extremely gracious.
David Duchovny was an arse.
Though I have no evidence of actual awfulness, I have never felt a room get more chilly than when Mark Lawson entered it. This, however, is merely a feeling I got and is not to be entirely trusted.
Surprises me about the Killers
Aren't they just androids devoid of any emotion?
Are they human
or are they dancer?
Or, as I heard someone singing the other day
Am I human or am I denser?
Lawson
Ganglesproket, you're absolutely spot on about Lawson. A rude, haughty man, completely up his own arse.
His own arse...
or David Duchovny?
Lawson
Known to the technical team on "Front Row" circa 2000 as "Mr. Stroppy," among other things.
My nomination is Steve Wright. The fact that I had more laughs at my cancer biopsy than I've ever had at his humour should have tipped me off to the fact that the man is an egotistical little shit.
That is all.
You, Duchovny, Out
I'm only partially through this, and it seems we have an abundant supply of those who've done time in record shops. When I first moved to Vancouver, BC, the X-Files (which filmed there) was about as big as it comes.
On what seemed to one of my earliest evenings closing the shop, David Duchovny sauntered in. I had about thirty people waiting to leave for the day, so I politely told him we were closing. It wasn't as much his reaction, an insolent shrug, that I recall; it was the sight of thirty twentysomethings agape that I'd given him the bum's rush.
Mr. Duchovny was looking through the R & B section for Slave, an offbeat but not exactly quality choice.
Isn't this a bit "celebretist"?
Surely famous people are just like normal people, but famous. The difference is, all we ask of normal people is that they be civil. Famous people we expect to be charming. There's a bloke down my road that I don't like but I'm not going to name him.
Charming is far too much to ask
but I do expect civil at the very least. That's not too much to ask. Plain rude is what you get six times out of 10.
The stars are paid to shine
Jimmy Nail is a right dick. He threw his fruit-basket all over the floor when he came over here to do the Patrick Kielty show. Nasty piece of work him.
Sorry
but if that's not a euphemism it should be. I too would probably throw my fruit-basket all over the floor if I was working with Patrick Kielty.
Although Patrick seems to have undergone a bit of a revival of late from his position of a few years ago. Michael MacIntyre seems to have done him a big favour.
Oh, you're right there
Kielty is OK, crap comeejin, but as a bloke, he's not too bad. It was the way Nail treated the production team - the little girl who supplied said fruit basket was in tears.
This story gets better!
She wasn't handicapped by any chance?
Erm...
No. She was a 16 year old Job-opportunities(?) person, you know, they don't get paid much and they work like galley slaves. Nail should've known better.
By the by, when Oliver Reed came over to do Kielty's show, he went fishing on Strangford Loch with my mum's friend's hubby! And he was dead nice!
I seem to recall a Tom Jones quote...
... along the lines of "Elvis went mad because he never went to the pub." I suspect an element of this is involved in keeping famous people normal and nice (provided they started out that way).
Oliver Reed of course did that often.
Nice
one.
I met Tom
in a west end hotel bar a few years ago. He had his manager and a Bailey's & ice with him. He was bloody charming.
Never met him since..
(re: Jimmy Nail) but me and my mates used to follow his band "The King Crabs" around the N.E. He seemed alright, and would get a round in. Mind you, he was a fat drunken slob then, and not famous. Be warned ye lovers of temperance!
Fair point.
I'm not famous but have walked down the street in a very bad mood, I saw someone i know and was less than pleasant. Later on that very same day I was in a happier mood, saw someone else I knew and was effusive and charming. Judging someone on one 2/5/20 minute meeting is a bit ridiculous.
"Famous people we expect to be charming"
I don't care about the bloke down the road.
Rod Steiger
I spent some time with Rod Steiger, and he was delightful. I was slightly perplexed when he started singing to me in a lift, but it added to the charm.
My dad got drunk with Rod Steiger
at the bar at a snow-bound Chicago O'Hare airport in the late Sixties. My dad reported that he could very vaguely remember, through the fug of his hangover, that he was a thoroughly decent bloke. I seem to recall that singing was involved then too.
Interestingly, I've met Paul Oakenfold twice
and both times he was a complete arse.
Oh, where to start?
Wankers male and female
Paul Young
Ricky Gervais
Shane Richie
Jenni Falconer
Charlotte Church
Lenny Henry
Charlie from Casualty
Peter Kay
Ian Kelsey
Jessie Wallace
Tara Palmer-Tompkinson
Duncan Banatyne
Bill Turnbull
Katherine Rogers
Alan Davies
Trevor Eve
Danny Dyer
Robert Lindsay
Sir Alan Sugar
Mark Strong
Leslie Grantham
David Baddiel
I could go on
And about those you've asked yourself 'who the fuck's that?', you've answered your own question. People eventually tire of you being so difficult.
The things...
...I hear about Trevor Eve from friends who work in TV production would make your toes curl. I will repeat none of them as I'm not sufficiently confident of my grasp of the libel laws. Let's just say he seems to like to get his own way. And he seemed like such a nice boy in Shoestring...
Revenge
I once peed on his lawn when lived near Stafford.
So I'm guessing
when he's all shouty and obnoxious as Boyd in Waking The Dead, he's not acting...
As the...
...'star' and 'creative hub' of Waking the Dead I believe he feels he has the right to ignore the script and improvise his own lines. Which would explain a lot about (a) his own performance and (b) the gaping holes in the plot.
Bill Turnbull
Reliably informed by a female friend who is a colleague of Turnbull's is that he is a living, breathing version of Tom Tucker from Family Guy.
Ian Kelsey
Surprised to see Ian Kelsey in this list. Met him a few times and he's always been very charming and obliging to his fans. How did he earn a place on this list?
Ian Kelsey!
Maybe you've been lucky. He was pretty arrogant and unpleasant when I worked with him.
Ian Kelsey
How long ago did you work with him? I can only think that perhaps he's changed a lot as all the crew speak highly of him these days.
*thinks*
I worked with Ian while he was in Casualty, which must have been... oooh... maybe 1999? So quite a while ago. And if he's changed since then, then good for him, frankly! Nice to hear that it happens.
I am glad to hear you say that about Mark Strong
I have a massive barely rational dislike of him purely based on his general over-sincerity despite his mediocre acting skills, and it's nice to have my hunch that he's a tosspot confirmed.
In the interests of balance...
Though I don't doubt your bad experiences I've always found Peter Kay to be a thoroughly nice bloke, plus he's helped a friend in need in a quiet, dignified way. Also met Paul Young a couple of times and he was charm personified (which was a particular relief to my wife who has adored him for years... come to think of it I would rather he was a tosser).
Off days?
All the above I've had experience of and they've been nothing more than rude. Ian Kelsey was probably the worst offender. Our magazine had him schtupping some panto actress and he went nuts. Well, don't play away if you don't want to be found out.
Mark Strong didn't want to mix with the hoi polloi and wanted a private celeb area he could go to instead. So much for being a man of the people. And he's a major luvvie.
Paul Young was rude when I worked in a shop and Peter Kay hung up on me mid-conversation.
Defence of Mark Strong
I worked with Mark Strong, and he's a quiet, serious-minded, quite shy man. He takes his acting seriously, which I'd say is a good thing. But he's a benign, amiable presence on set, when nothing's happening (which is most of the time): not at all angsty and uptight.
I must say I like the way this thread goes. It's supposed to be about wankers, but The Massive just want to talk about how nice people are.
Do you think
It might be you?
Funnily enough
No.
the only famous wanker was...
Miranda Richardson. She was rude, snippy and full of herself. I was ten. TEN. Like everyone at the time, I thought Blackadder was about the greatest thing I'd ever seen, and she cut me entirely dead when I asked for an autograph.
On the other hand:
Simon Pegg was a total gent when I bumped into him at a Charlotte Hatherley gig at ULU a few years ago. Fellow Gloucester boy - no wonder he's nice.
John Peel. Met him twice, once fleetingly and once for a whole evening. He was just as I hoped and imagined he would be.
Ronnie Corbett. I was pissed at a comedy club in Ealing, and approached him. He was utterly charming.
Say it ain't so!!!
Miranda Richardson is one of my all-time "If I ever meet her, I will propose on the spot" TV women. Another illusion tap-dances out the door...
Yeah, this is awful
I know how you feel! Jeez, I'm getting my eyes opened today. And she's doing those ads with that lady from Ashes to Ashes, so I'll be constantly reminded!
Poo!
sob
- add me to the list of the heart-broken too.
You're probably about...
... as heartbroken as I was. Queenie remains one of my favourite ever comedy characters, and MR always comes off well in interviews. I'm sure she was just having a bad evening, but to get all brittle and "shoo, shoo!" when a ten year old boy asks you for an autograph is pretty awful, IMO.
Sorry, folks.
Miranda
A couple of years ago I took a few pics of her at a do in London-she was sat with Rita Tushingham in the VIP area. She was fine with me, even helping to uplight her chins with the programme she was holding.
Sorry, but
"who's Queen?" :-)
I once met Gary Neville
& he was a bell-end of the highest order. I just though he was a dick before I even knew it was him as I'd never had an opinion on him before that
Nice people;
Pete Turner out of Elbow is incredibly polite & a top bloke. Ive met him a couple of times & he is always sound.
They say you should never meet your heroes but when I met Shane MacGowan he was very pleasant. He was drinking a pint of bloody mary & absolutely stank but he was lovely nonetheless. (as a bonus I had met John Cooper Clarke two minutes earlier & he was a gent too!)
However, Paul Smith out of Maximo Park may think that I am a dick.... I saw him at a Leonard Cohen concert & he was really nice to me...despite me interrupting his conversation & then failing to even acknowledge his girlfriend. I was horrified when I realised how unintentionally rude I had been!
It's weird, everyone says
It's weird, everyone says this about Gary "Son of Neville" Neville, but I once had to spend a day with most of the pre-World Cup 06 England squad, and he was a pleasure: funny, honest, happy to fetch teas etc, no truck with the WAG celebrity crap the others were so addicted to.
Stevie Gerrard on the other hand has always been a rude, arrogant, monosyllabic, unhelpful cove. Although to be fair I was playing journalist at the time, and he clearly despises being interviewed.
My nephew is a manager at a
garden centre near Southport and was asked by Steven Gerrard if he would deliver and erect a chicken coop. He explained that he was from fish & ponds but Stevie G was very persuasive and managed to convince my nephew [who is a massive Liverpool fan - so it wasn't hard] to do the deed. He never gave him a tip though the tight get, but he was very nice apparently. So I think we can say that if you want to catch the G man at his best, ask him about his chickens.
Oh, and while we're on football,
my friend met Alex Ferguson at a footie awards thing [not a big affair, he was presenting the awards] and said he was extremely pleasant & charming and chatted to all the kids for ages and was a thoroughly nice bloke.
As was Djibril Cisse at a similar event.
And Phil Thompson was a neighbour of a friend until recently and he found him to be very affable.
Me Too
I once met Sir Alex and can second that and he was an absolute gent. some friends recently spent the day with Graham Taylor. They couldn't praise him highly enough. He was fantastic company.
In The early 90's i worked in a pub in Brighton frequented by nearly all The Sussex cricketers and some very famous Cricketers from other counties. They all used to hang out with current Test match umpire Ian Gould. can't tell you how nice Ian is because my words wouldn't do him justice. Got to meet Botham,Robin Jackman,Bill Athey and David Syd Lawrence ,all top blokes especially Syd but they did bring the Biggest wanker i've ever met famous or otherwise into the pub one day. the guy was a nightmare start to finish. Stand up ,pun intended, The jockey Walter Swindburn,i'd have b***** the C out of him if he hadn't been so small.
Graham Taylor
On the occasion of a Watford season ticket holding friend's marriage, sent several handwritten pages of 'how to survive wedded bliss' advice and anecdotes across when merely asked for an autograph to be put in the post.
I go to watch Scunthorpe United with...
... Graham's nephew and have known him since infants school. I can confirm that the entire family are absolutely top-notch people - polite, genuine, caring, hard-working, honest.
Pete Turner from elbow
I also have met him a couple of times and he is a really nice guy.
Haven't met the rest, but they all seem nice - Craig used to hang out on powderblue website before they 'did an elbow' and got huge.
Craig still posts on the Elbow Room Only site
quite infrequently unfortunately, but comes across as a genuine bloke.
Damon Hill
backstage at a Van Morrison concert, standing in the centre of the room ignoring everyone, even the two awestruck young boys who asked for an autograph. (I was too scared to take up the offer of an introduction to Van). Paul Brady was there, and he was a bit of a prick too.
Contrast the charming James Hunt sitting in front of me at a Roger Water's 'Pros & Cons of Hitchiking' gig, with not one but two fabulously attractive dolly birds. (Can I say 'dolly birds'?)
I spoke to Seth Lakeman's brother at the bar before a gig and he was an arse - listen Sean, it's not my fault your brother is taller, better looking, demonstrably more talented and has a cooler name than you.
Dolly birds
We should start a campaign to bring it back into common usage,Steven.
Not really famous as such
But footy pundit Garth Crooks was a thoroughly decent chap. He didn't even hit me when I asked him how many times a day people made Garth Brooks jokes, and his handshake was a thing of manly wonder. Odd, as on the telly he can seem a bit berkish, but he was a really nice guy.
Danny John Jules, who played the Cat in Red Dwarf, was an absolutely brilliant bloke; I met him in the bar before a production of Our Country's Good that he was appearing in.
My dad met John Cleese on holiday years ago - when he was still with Connie Booth, I think - and he was fantastically eccentric and seemed like a great bloke (he even did the funny walk at one point).
Superficially, it seems a wee bit harsh to judge how nice/evil people are on the basis of a quick meeting, but a basic politeness isn't overly difficult. Conversely, if your wife has just left you, you're unlikely to want to sign autographs.
John Cleese
Reminds me of the story I heard recently about the FTHM.
At a cricket match in Weston Supermare a young boy spots JC sitting in a deck chair enjoying the day's sport apparently unrecognised by those around him. The boy approaches and asks for an autograph. JC leans in close and whispers "What happens next is not your fault".
JC then stands up and gives the boy two minutes of the full Basil Fawlty righteous indignation and furious anger. Arm waving, who do you think you are, I only came to watch the cricket in peace, the full package. Those around watch in stunned silence at this appalling behaviour. When he had finished JC leant in close to the boy again and whispered "Thanks, no-one will bother me for the rest of the match now", signed the autograph and returned to his seat.
Former Las Bass Player
and mystical scouse legend John Power was a bit of a tit when I met him but he was probably having a tough day.
Guy Garvey was extremely lovely when I met him, happy to take the p*ss out of the PR sh*t who decided gunning for me was a good idea. Chuck D was an absolute gent.
It's quite true that being a bit nice takes you a lot further. You want your rock and roll attitude on stage not in the corner shop.
Oh and how could I forget Mark Radcliffe
A f*cking well absolutely nice chap.
Radcliffe - Seconded
I've been listening to his show since the mid-90's and finally met him last year at a book signing. OK, he was flogging books but he came across as a genuinely pleasant chap who had time for a chat and a photo with everyone. Even conversed with my 3 year old daughter - and he's not even a politician. It was a very reassuring meeting.
On a semi-related theme, I have been to a book signing / reading / Q&A session with one of Mark's regular guests, Simon Armitage. Like Mark, he was extremely down-to-earth, pleasant, willing to talk to everybody - just as he comes across on the radio and tv.
Radcliffe - thirded
And his radio work (avec ou sans Maconie) isn't too shabby either.
Yep, have to agree. I met
Yep, have to agree. I met him at a book signing for "Showbusiness" a few years ago. Happy to chat and asked for local curry house recommendations. Didn't have a bad word to say about anyone, was even diplomatic about Chris Moyles ( a young pretender at the time).
Had similar experiences with Bill Bryson and Nick Hornby but it's Douglas Coupland who I'll remember. He was lovely and drew a great picture of a waving hand inside my copy of Hey Nostradamus.
I've heard
that if you approach Radcliffe in a pub he'll more than likely buy you a pint.
Rick Wakeman
The ex once shared an airport, courtesy taxi thingy with him and said he was a diamond geezer.
agree
top man, met him a few times, always been very pleasant
agree
top man, met him a few times, always been very pleasant
agree
top man, met him a few times, always been very pleasant
Ian Gillan
Met him in Lyme Regis when I was 14 back in July 1982. Bloke in a record shop said he was coming. Didn't believe him until I saw John McCoy first (Bit scary so didn't approach him). Then Gillan came walking up the road. Top geezer....stopped and talked and I got his autograph. He then drove off in a really old knackered BMW.
Robert Plant's good value as well but there always seems to be at least four other people with him and one thing I ain't is a sycophant baby...........up the Wolves
I haven't met any
As far as I can recall I've only ever met - meaning actually spoken to - 2 famous people.
Fish out of Marillion in 1983 who was stood at the bar at The Mayfair in Newcastle having a drink before they went on, who was very quiet but very pleasant to me.
And Liz Fraser, Carry On and Ealing comedy actress, who I spoke to when she opened our village summer fete thing one year when I was about 12. She was beautiful and a delight.
EDIT: Wait a minute, yes I've remembered - Johnnie Walker once bought me a few others a pint while he was trying to chat up a female friend of ours. Perhaps 'chat-up' is too strong a term. Anyway he was grace and charm and thoroughly good-natured.
Andy, sorry,
but I've just been talking to my sister who was a receptionist in a Har Salon in Belfast in the 80s, when madame herself was appearing in a farce at the Opera House. She said Liz Fraser was a stroppy, bitchy, prima donna.
Bad day syndrome, maybe. Some of these folk are inclined to tweak the cheeks of children and blow kisses from the cab, but as soon as things don't go their way, they tend to throw their rattle outta the pram.
Genuinely surprised
there Hud (can I call you Hud?)
I don't doubt you at all, or your sister, but she was lovely to me.
Indeed we're all just human beings. Only human beings can have human failings (Clive James)
Graeme Fowler
Played for England for five minutes and I met him twice. Both times, an absolute arse.
However, Mike Gatting was an absolute gent, self-effacing and funny.
On the pop star front not much to report save that Mick Jagger comes across very well and so does Noel Gallagher.
Michael Palin really is the nicest man in the world. And Niall Quinn is next on the list.
Foxy Fowler
Can't comment on his personality but as a fellow-Lancastrian I'd have to stand up for his alleged 5 mins of Test cricket. 21 Tests is a bit more than 5 mins. OK he only averaged 35 but his last 2 Test scores were 201 & 69. Such were the vagaries of England's selection policy in the 80's he never got another look in. That was in the days when if you didn't play for Middlesex, Essex or Surrey you weren't the right sort! I don't blame him if he carries a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Or is that me. :-)
True...
...and yes, good points all, but I was referring to the usual public perception of him. First time I approached him I explained that I was a Lancashire fan and an opening bat and did he have any tips etc. His reply was unprintable.
Second time was outside the Oval before the infamous test of 1999 against New Zealand. Again, why be so nasty? I greeted him with a chirpy "Hello Fox" and he was patronising and unpleasant.
He was finally dropped in 1986 after a very slow 20 in a 1 day match against India. He was given the opportunity to regain his place after a shocking 1985 and sadly couldn't perform.
Foxy
As a kid I went through a phase where he was my favourite player. I even wrote him a letter telling him this and asking for his autograph. To be fair, I received a hand signed colour promo photo back so he's ok by me! Although, it's one thing to rudely decline an autograph request in person but how terrible would it be to reject a written request with a "f*ck off"?!
What, like this you mean?
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dear-graeme-fowler-a-message-for...
"Gatts"
Last year I was at the Ashes Test at Lord's and seated at the edge of the next stand was Mike Gatting. He was spotted by a bunch of green-and-gold wearing Aussie oiks who barracked him on the subject of his resemblance to Henry VIII and repeated the old one about how he would have dealt with Shane Warne's ball from hell had it been a sausage roll. After Gats had smilingly tolerated this abuse for ten minutes or so (and I somehow don't think Steve Waugh would have done) I noticed a waiter coming down the steps with six ice cold lagers on a tray. He leaned across the fence and gave them to the antipodean tormentors. When they looked puzzled the waiter turned and indicated the buyer of the drinks. There was Gatting waving at them.
That, my friends, is class.
A second Gatts anecdote
And this is one of my name-dropping specials so please stand clear.
I was in the Sir Gary Sobers Stand at the Bridgetown Oval in Barbados. It was 1986. It was the final day of the final test of a series in which England had been battered by the Windies pace quartet, a humiliation which had climaxed with Gatting taking one full in the face from, I think, Michael Holding, an injury that forced him to go home for treatment. Anyway, being Gatting he came back sporting a nose that looked as if he'd been the victim of an IRA punishement beating.
During the lunch interval he approached the three-strong party which included me. Would we, asked the bruised warrior, care to join the England team for lunch? I was about to stand up when one of our party politely demurred. "No thanks, Mike. I've brought sandwiches," said Mick Jagger.
This taught me a valuable lesson. There's fame and fame.
Fish paste
Were they Tesco own brand fish paste on sliced white...
Clang!!
I met Gatting at Port of Spain in 2004 some 19 years after that blow to the face on that very ground (by MD Marshall)
He was with his wife and it was at the end of the day's play so I may have been refreshed.
Famously when he got back to Heathrow in 1985 with his split nose, an unobservant hack asked "Where exactly did the ball hit you Mike?"
I repeated the same daft question and he broke into a massive grin. He leant over and said "It's so long ago now that I've forgotten". Watching Jones and Harmison duff up the Windies must have been tremendously cathartic methinks.
Fair's fair.
Cost good money, those sandwiches. Wouldn't want them to go to waste. Mind you, if Gatt was around, there's no way any food would have gone to waste.
C'MON
I'm hitting the PF5 button repeatedly here - this is beezer!
Isn't there *generally*
a correlation between how famous they are and how nice they are?
My experience is that...
...anyone who has to ask "do you know who I am?" is demonstrating a tremendous lack of self-awareness...
Mind you, I can be fairly prickly before 10am.
EDIT: Can I add that I bumped into Peter Serafinowicz the other week and he was a top bloke.
The Albert Edward rule of thumb.
The ones you expect to be nice are cunts, and vice versa.
What about
poor Stephen Fry then? Surely he has to be the nicest person in the world? Is he a C-word of astronomical proportions?
two of my friends...
...have bumped into SF on separate occasions, and apparently he is the loveliest man imaginable
He is
and so's Hugh Laurie.
Michael Palin seems to disprove that surely?
I have also met Fish out of Marillion. Quite quiet and shy (and indeed tall) was the impression. Certainly not rude or bad mannered.
You don't believe me?
One word: Cilla.
Clarification required, AE:
What did you expect of her?
There's a similar, very long-running thread…
... about nice and not-so-nice celebs on Digital Spy, the overriding message of which appears to be that Cilla is pure poison.
She's a doll
I've interviewed her at her home, I've sat next to her at things and met her on numerous occasions and she's a delight. So many great Sixties stories.
All I have heard is that she's a kleptomaniac. All her crockery bears the LWT livery.
Given certain things
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a, um, changeable personality.
An old school friend
of mine was a successful photographer. Did lots of work for the Mail and the TV Times and so on. He jacked it all in a few years back. When I asked him why, he said "Cilla".
Beck's Bash
Managed to squeak in to Jeff Beck's 60th a few years back after an RAH gig, courtesy of a guitarist friend of mine. There were a few celebs there.
Cilla was an absolute doll - one of these people who clasp your hand as you're chatting with her. Seemed genuine to me.
Another smashing person was Patti Boyd; still stunning, very down to earth who made you realise why 'Layla' was written.
Jeff himself - modest and charming and even got near-teary when I described his playing that evening as being 'emotional.'
Ronnie Wood - always a top geezer.
Another Ronni - this time Ancona. Tremendously funny and packed with personality. My mate came over, having seen us chatting and laughing like hell. After we left, he asked how long I'd known her. When I told him I'd only met her that evening, he was astonished. Jealous of her husband.
Memorable night. Only in London.
Kerry Katona bought me a pint
This was a few years back. There had been a Britney Spears gig in Dublin and Ms Katona, Louis Walsh and a couple of others arrived into the bar after the show. My pal and I were sitting at a table that had room for more and Kerry came over and asked if she could join us. She was delightfully chatty, kept calling me 'Edna' [my name is 'Enda'] and bought us a round, posed for pics and showed us her bra (it was a gay bar- things were going that way...).
Louis Walsh was quiet, but perfectly civil.
Not being a fan of either's musical output, I can still say that they were Very Nice People.
Edna
your are priceless!
I was at uni with Bruce Dickinson.
He was head of 'Ents' and we all thought he was a bit of a tosser. We thought he was an even bigger tosser when he told us he was in a band (Samson). When we went to see them play we had to admit that, Bruce may have been a bit of a tosser, but he had a great voice and was obviously destined for better things.
You decide
A friend of mine – a long time Floyd fanatic - told me that he once spotted Dave Gilmour in a London restaurant. So he waited until Dave was paying the bill before asking Dave for an autograph. To which Dave replied “Oh do fuck off”.
Wanker.
Some years later, I’m wandering round the paddock enclosure at Brands Hatch. Stood alone by Steve O’Rourke’s Porsche is Mr Gilmour. Mindful of my friend’s encounter I make no attempt to engage him in any way but another punter sidles up alongside me and starts to talk about the McLaren F1 GTR that Steve owned. I’m busy, thinking of how I can escape but Dave wanders over and explains what happened to it, how it performed and how Steve and Nick Mason collected cars, but he preferred historic aircraft.
My newly acquired buddy and I moved on 20 minutes later. “What a great bloke” says New Mate, “He must have some money. Must be a banker or something – you can tell by the accent”.
Great bloke.
thats heartening
I suppose we have to take into consideration the Bad-Day factor. But this is fascinating stuff, all the same.
I believe the trick is...
...to call him "David".
Which makes him...
...a completely pretentious tosser. He was quite happy to be Dave when he was knocking out Meddle etc. Then he gets all haughty and demanding to be called David. What, with him and the indescribably obnoxious Waters in the same band, it makes you weep for the rock'n'roll ethos. Give the man a knighthood and complete the whole predictable story.
Very decent chap
March 1984, Pink Floyd in a mess. David Gilmour released About Face and embarked on his first major solo tour. First date of the tour was in Dublin. It was also my first gig. I was 16. I spotted Gilmour making some last minute adjustments in the gloaming at the back of stage. I called out to him and did a pleading gesture for an autograph and he signaled me to go around to the side stage area. I immediately proceeded totally ignoring a security guard who was threatening to kick me out until Gilmour signaled him to let me through. He autographed the back of my ticket. Only now, older and wiser, do I realise how much pressure he must have been under at that moment, and taking into account how he, now famously, detests signing autographs, I think he proved himself to be a very generous spirited individual who made a 16 year old boy's dream come true.
Gilmour
I heard that exact same Gilmour story a couple of years ago (it could have been on here to be fair). It always sounded a bit vague to me to be taken too seriously.
EDIT: I was talking about the "Oh fuck off" one.
Sweet
I was at the studio when they were recording Level Headed and they were rude and unfriendly to my 15 year old self. Julian Cope was lovely when I complemented him on his concert. Friends of mine "in the biz" have judged as tossers Quentin Tarantino, Denzel Washington, Tim Roth and John Lydon, and as nice guys Phil Collins and Alfred Molino.
There's only one Jimmy Nail
...and that's one too many (also see above).
Working on an arena gig for him & his band of well-known musicians, we were told he had refused to travel in the bus with the rest of the band from Sheffield the night before and a hire car was obtained for him at short notice. He would not soundcheck while we were in view of the stage and would not sign an autograph when asked politely. Oh, and we had to "paper" the gig because it had flopped and could still only manage a half-full hall despite freebie tickets.
Whenever I attend a function/dinner where there are "celebrity" guests or speakers I always try to get my menu/programme signed as a souvenir of the occasion. One such trade function was compered by Bradley Walsh. It was too much trouble for him to lift a pen & simply sign his name but fortunately the MC, Alan Dedicoat, was charming and happy to sign and add "Voice of the balls"
At a charity function I spent some time talking to the lovely Andrew Sachs about his version of "Shaddup Your Face" and when I said I owned the single uttered those immortal words, "you're the one who bought it!". He also added "Manuel Que!" to his autograph. Same dinner, lovely Lorraine Chase - she can do no wrong in my eyes after meeting her. Fab.
That Bradley Walsh
and I've been going round telling everybody he's the best thing in Law & Order UK, as well!
Does it matter? Would any of youse dismiss an artiste's oeuvre if he/she was a tosser?
I'd have to say, it would colour my judgement.
Alan Dedicoat...
My mate and I spotted Mark Goodier at a radio do, and decided that we had to have our photo taken with him. So we asked an unassuming-looking gentleman nearby if he'd mind doing the camera honours.
We draped ourselves over Mark, the picture was snapped, and the camera handed back to us with the words:
"And you can tell everyone that picture was taken by The Voice of The Balls".
Sorry Alan. We hadn't recognised you.
mentioned this before
Met Robert Plant and I was mildly rude to him. He however was a completely charming trooper.
I was (inadvertently) mildly rude to Steve Reich
But he was perfectly charming.
Plant
Genuinely nice guy. Enthusiastic about music beyond even most of the posters on here.
it was at a gig
Mansour Seck - which shows how interested in music he is! This was BEFORE the "blues are from Mali" jag.
The Wolves
some family members of mine have seats near his (RP) and they say he's a really nice bloke with time for everyone,Especially my Uncle Eric,who chats with him about old players.
Lovely, one and all
Lemmy
Inspiral Carpets
Wedding Present
Vic and Bob
Carter USM
Richard Marx
PWEI
Sam Brown
James
EMF
Just about any US artist, and their "people"
Lots of others
Scary, but not unpleasant in any way:
Happy Mondays
Lemmy...
...offered me out once.
Now Lemmy's manager...
...initially came across as a bit of a git but that was probably because I was with some writers who he wouldn't play ball with. Had a drink with him later and he was a nice chap bemoaning his daughter's listening habits.
Nice people I met:
John Peel
Richie Manic
James Manic
Bob Mortimer
Eddie Izzard
Jarvis Cocker
Less pleasant:
Jack Dee
Roy Hattersley
Roy Hattersley
he does seem unpleasant. I saw him on Dinner With Portillo, and it looked like he was putting everybody off their pud.
A friend of mine has worked with Jack Dee
... and told me that he is one of the most genuinely shy people she has ever encountered.
My sister's an ILR news hack.
She's interviewed lots of people but says the biggest tosser she's ever encountered was Jim Davidson. Well. Who'd have thought it?
She also said Jack Dee was a bell-end, which upset her a lot because she was a big fan.
The nicest people she's worked with, she says, are John Major and Suggs. Not at the same time, obviously.
There may be something to this shy/rude thing
I am often accused of both.
C3P0 from Star Wars
Once interviewed Anthony Daniels. Awful until the cameras rolled, awful when they stopped. In between, you would have thought he was in love.
Graham Taylor, ex-England manager, is an absolutely top bloke. As is Kevin Keegan, though after the interview he went off on a bizarre flight of fancy about how much postage to put on a Jiffy bag when sending a hardback book: not quite "I'd love it, LOVE IT, if he came here and he hadn't put enough stamps on it" etc etc, but as funny.
Peel was great, Andy Kershaw had a nose bleed (he'd just been smacked), David Gedge likes to hold court a bit in a "look at me, I'm not holding court" way, Lloyd Cole's very nice, if a bit weary. Billy Bragg is a top bloke but autistically serious.
Tom Baker was sweet and totally barking.
I'll get my thinking head on for some more.
Luvvies
showbiz kissy-kissy-hug-hug folk are invariably rude to the masses unless it's a signing or a photo-op. Light-entertainment stars seem to hate their public, in an Alan Partrdidge kinda way.
Lineker
was a bit of a lech when I met him.
I was with my girlfriend at the time who, it has to be said, was a bit of a stunner. This was a while back, when he was the clean cut football hero, not the shacked up presenter with an model like he is
now.
A friend of mine was working for a publishing house that were involved in something he was doing and there was some meet and greet cheese and wine type thing. Free drinks anyway and we got invited. So we are stood chatting with some people we knew and he walked past. Did a double take and came back to talk to 'us'. He introduced himself to us, and then preceded to ignore myself and the other two and focused directly on my good lady.
He shook her hand and held on a little too long for my liking and started asking her about herself. She did a little flirting herself but finally got around to saying she and her boyfriend knew the person who was working with him. He did a little sideways glance in my direction and then said to her that there was a proper party going on later and that we should come down. Then he was pulled away by somebody else. We had a little laugh about it although I was a little peeved and grabbed another drink.
About ten minutes later my lady turned to me and said: "Just think, if you weren't here I'd probably be shagging him now!"
I've heard plenty...
...of similar stories about Lineker. John Terry would blush.
Golden Gary
... a mate who works for the BBC was in a meeting with him (and several other people, all male bar one) a while ago. He made an extremely suspect and surprisingly explicit remark about one of the girls in the office before noticing there was a girl in the meeting too. Nice.
Housewives' Favourite
I have heard similar from a guy I used to play 5 a side with who worked on MoTD. He had a belting tale about Lee Sharpe, too.
all recently confirmed
by an ex.manager of his. see one of my previous posts
The word "octopus"
comes up very, very often in discussions of Lineker.
A well-known fact.
Lineker would fuck a plughole if it had some hair round it. I suspect Gabby Logan keeps a special cold spoon with is name on it in her handbag just in case.
A few years ago
I was lucky enough to interview Mick Jones of The Clash.
I spent the entire day with him at the studio where he was producing The Libertines. It was psychedelic, intimidating and very moving as, when I was 15, I was obsessed with The Clash and living in gloomy poverty 'oop north. I only saw them once -at the Top Rank in Sheffield in 1979 - and it still remains as incendiary and powerfully transformative in my memory to this day.
When the interview was being arranged it was all very intense and wreathed in paranoia as Doherty and the Libertines were on the cusp of being 'the new Oasis', Rough Trade had piled a lot of money and time into them and the tabloids were sniffing around the Doherty/Kate Moss car crash.
Rough Trade wanted to know if I was Kosher, so I had to email their publicist and 'sell' myself. I wrote honestly about what The Clash had meant to me and included some stuff that would identify me as a fan who was interested in their legacy etc and not gossip. It was quite personal (I expressed my anxiety about meeting a hero!) and detailed my Sheffield gig 'epiphany', but hopefully wasnt too sycophantic.
Eventually, the magazine I was writing for got the ok and I found myself being introduced firstly to Geoff Travis (who was cool and suspicous), various Libertines (Carl Barat was absolutely lovely) and then taken into the control room to see Mick at work.
To be honest, I was shitting myself and sat quietly in the corner. Mick had obviously been given a nudge, came over, put headphones on my head and shouted 'what you think?' over the music. I smiled and nodded. He put his arm around me 'lets get some fackin' dinner, Im starvin!'
I spent the day with him talking about everything and nothing, films, books, comics, reggae, family. He dropped fantastic anecdotes about everyone from Pete Townsend to 'Marty' Scorsese. We both got emotional when he talked about Joe Strummer, he genuinely made me crease with laughter, signed everything I put in front of him and was one of the most entertaining and warm individuals Ive ever met. I managed to hold back the 15 year old fan until the very end when the booze kicked in 'Look Mick, thanks so much for today and also for...well...y'know'
'Pleasure' he said 'I saw your email. Sheffield Top Rank eh? Yeah...that was a good gig'.
Thank you
This has made me extremely happy
Y'know what
... I'm unexpectedly welling up. In office hours.
Lovely story
I see Jones and Glen Matlock quite regularly at QPR home games these days. Took me years before I plucked up the courage to speak to him and then only managed the short distance between White City and Notting Hill Gate where Mick and his companion departed.
first met Matlock
when supporting him at a gig in Islington a couple of years ago. I was grumbling to the boys about having a sore throat and he came over and gave me a throat lozenge (now there's a pro!!)... became good acquaintances after that and he's always been an absolute diamond. Lent us one of his amps once when one of ours exploded, and also called me up to offer some fatherly advice on moving to London when I was finishing college. Really, really great bloke and someone that all young musicians should aspire to be like.
Micks A Legend!
Met Mick on one of his Carbon Casino nights 2 years ago in Ladbroke Grove. My mate had flew in from Taiwan just to see the gig and we hung around long enough to see Mick - what a gent!
Took the time to discuss taiwanese politics with my mate and was quite receptive to me asking him about parenting advice, as I was due to become a father within the year.
I am a massive Clash obsessive and had read that they always made time for genuine fans and Mick obviously carried on this tradition.
Also met John Peel at Clwb Ifr Bach in Cardiff - a true legend, very nice and took the time to speak to me and my heavily inebriated mate.
It's the icing on the cake to meet a hero and find out they're top chaps!
Nice story...
I've met Mick and Joe Strummer and both were as genuine and warm as you could ever have hoped for.
Despite their failings (often highlighted on this Blog), I can't say how much The Clash meant to me as a kid growing up and how chuffed I was meeting both of them as an adult that they didn't disappoint in any way.
I am really pleased to see the warmth toward Mick, I think it's easy to overlook him amongst all the tributes and praise aimed at Joe Strummer.
me too
more than makes up for my Miranda Richardson disappointment. Despite the feeble shoeing on the last podcast - the Clash, best band ever.
*Sniff*
Welling up, here.
Pocket...
DO ONE!
I don't know
what I'm going to do if anything happens to Mick Jones....(sniffle)
Sheffield Top Rank - Fight !!!!
I was also at that Clash gig in 1979 and remember it as a fantastic gig but also am sure that that was the one where Joe & Mick had a fight on stage over playing White Riot. Mick stormed off for a brief while and then came back on.
Was I dreaming ????
Correct - the 'p.s' to that story is
that I reminded him that he stuck his guitar through the stack and stomped off. HE reminded ME that they had a 'little tussle' on stage and that it continued backstage. He also said that the managers of the Victoria Hotel(!) tried to kick them out because they let a load of fans into their rooms for kip.
£3.50 to get in.
Top Rank
£3.50 is that all it was !! Saw many great bands there and used to get the bus form Doncaster for only 10p - bring back SYPTE and the cheap fares. Clash, Damned, Ramones, Undertones, 2 Tone tour. Good days indeed !!
Here are mine
Tossers
Damon Albarn
The ginger one from Girls Aloud
Keith Barron
Fearne Cotton
Van Morrison (obvious I know, but he did tell me to fuck off in response to me wishing him a good gig)
Tatu
Lovely
Cheryl Cole
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
Mick Jones
Chris Cornell
Death Cab for Cutie
Patrick Duff
Ash
Trent Reznor
Sharleen from Texas
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
I met years ago at some dubious gig in Camden. She was really nice, sweet, and actually a little shy. Very tall mind...
Sophie Ellis-Bextor.....
...came to our house for Sunday lunch when she was 15. She knew her manners even back then. Parenting will out.
Her Mum is
delicious as far as I can glean from *ahem* The Wright Stuff.
I'm lucky
All the famous folk I've met have been nice (at least on the surface), with the exception of Ron Atkinson, who was a bit of a wazzock.
I feel sorry for celebs in a way. We all have bad days. Occasionally, on a bad day, I might be a bit terse with someone. As a nobody, it doesn't really matter much, but if I was famous it'd become an anecdote that the person involved (and everyone they re-told the story to) would base my entire character on.
But yeah, Big Ron was a gifford.
Edit: Ooh, almost forgot! Derek Hatton was a knob an' all.
Swede & Sour
The nicest musicians I have encountered have all been Swedish, for some reason they just seem totally down to earth and friendly.
Nina Persson, Nicolai Dunger, Mattias Hellberg, Soundtrack of Our Lives, Dungen, Hellacopters amongst others - all utterly charming.
Other really friendly and fluffy musos I've met over the years included Joe Strummer, Marco Pirroni, Mick Jones, Don Letts, Blue Aeroplanes, Pete Shelley, Ed Hammel (Hammel On Trial), Chris Spedding, The Damned, Mick Head from Shack. Most surprising of all was Anton Newcombe from Brian Jonestown Massacre, I was expecting to get a pasting but is lovely as is his hairy sidekcik Joel Gion.
The "Sour" being Siouxsie and Steve Severin, the only time I've been told to oh just f~ck off by a "celeb" was when I took an opportunity and approached them for an interview for my fanzine once. I was with a mate who had a Siouxsie tattoo aswell and he was not best pleased to say the least! We did even follow Severin into the gents with the express purpose of giving him a slap but ended up standing either side of him at the urinals glowering and trying not to look at his willy.
oh..
I've not met many celebs, but I do remember Siouxsie and Paul Weller as pleasant types. Black Francis and Kim Deal from Pixies too. Peter Hook and Tony Wilson would always smile and say hello even though I know neither of them.
Various good eggs and not so nice ones
Used to work for Virgin Megastores (back in the day..cd`s, remember them?) and did lots of instore signings etc
PSB`s Neil Tennant was chummy and slightly camp, Chris Lowe was down to earth and had invited his Mum and Dad along for a cup of tea
Manics...quiet but friendly
Beckham...nice but er..dim
Westlife...were ok but their security were tossers
Blue were tossers
Muse...lead singer was a moody teenager
Elbow...were lovely
Slipknot...couldn`t really tell....obscured by masks
Which store?
I was at the Oxford Street store late 80s early 90s.
Manchester Market St
Manchester Market St
HEROES/WANKERS
It's funny... you grow up idolising certain people and then, after your brain gets delivered - sometime in your thirties - and you've read a few books, you realise 'If I met him, I really don't think I'd like John Lennon.'
Really?
If you met John Lennon you don't think you'd like him?
Your weird!
John Lennon...
... was really nice to me when I met him. He was dressed as Santa and gave me a Christmas present.
Mind you, I was only 10 at the time.
Weird?
...only at weekends. Please don't fall for all that 'John as Saint ' nonsense. In his own words The Beatles were the four biggest bastards on the planet. Can I direct you to Peter Doggets's great new book on the fabs, You Never Give Me Your Money, for a wise, level-headed view of them... then come back and tell me if you still think I'm weird.
I agree
If you met John Lennon I also think he would have been a bit of a 'top hat' That book sounds interesting, I will kep my eye out for it as it would be nice to read something that avoids the 'John as Saint' route.
Just bought it
Amazon vouchers truly are the gift that keep on giving.
This brilliant stuff
but I do feel like an old lady in the post office on pensions day...
I didn't say stop!
Lawrence D'Allaglio
Met him in the Welly Park bar in Belfast, after his team had whipped Ulster. I was rather drunk, but he was a perfect gent, talked me through that evenings match, and thanked me for coming over to talk.
How pleasant. And him a rugby player. Who'd have thought?
Bestsest
My da was a drinkin' buddo of Dickie Best, Geordie's da, and he says Geordie was a great guy. Even after that Wogan show shite, nobody over here had a bad word to say about him, and rightly so.
Ah, you're from "The East"!
I'm a Finaghy man, myself, and spent many happy hours in "The Bot" and the "Welly" during the 90's.
Ahhh, the Bot
I haven't been in them joints since the early 80s. When it was all velour and leathrette. But I was usually too wee-weed to appreciate the decor. They didn't even have music in them days, we used to take travel-Scrabble and sit by the open fire!
Listen, while I'm here, I'll mention Chris Searle, the That's Life bloke (see occam's bit below this)- my cousin did PA for him on the radio, and he was a right nob, apparently; I don't wanna say too much, cuz he might be in a wheelchair now... didn't one them That's Life boyos fall ill at some stage?
That was Glyn Worsnip...
...so spill the beans on Searle...
Oh
he was just a complete arse - listen, I'll phone me ma and see if she can gimme more dirt... shan't be a mo...
Hah
She must be out buying hair-nets and Pldege. Don't worry I'll phone her at tea time and get back to yez... now where were we... oh yeah
hair nets and pledge?
priceless! I think Paul Merton had a run in with Searle over a silent comedy festival in Bristol...
Glynn Worsnip
I think?
uh-huh
I'm sure he's lovely.
Only one really
Lovely:
Jimmy Page
John Peel
Nick Lowe
The Zutons
Richard Briers
Matt Dawson
Dara O'Briain
Bruce Oldfield
Boris Johnson
Michael Grade
Gabby Yorath
Graeme Le Saux
James Cracknell
Damien Hirst
Fenella Fielding
Austin Healey
Not so much:
Trudie Styler
I was going to add Gavin Campbell (That's Life), but he was more surreal than wanky - I remonstrated with him for bashing into my car and his response was 'But I'm Gavin Campbell!' Indeed.
Damian Hirst
is a talentless wanker. Deeply unpleasant shithead. His wife's lovely though. His Mum's a miserable cow who looks like Giles's granny.
Don't know about the talentless bit.
I'm not a fan of latter-day Hirst - he's an intentional self-parody at this point, well aware that if he did a dot-to-dot it'd still sell for millions. But much of his earlier work is brilliant, and his art-school juvenilia shows that he's nothing if not a genuinely talented man: a good technical draughtsman and painter who went on to do almost anything but representational drawing and painting. I can admire that.
That said, he is almost unanimously agreed to be a one-man twunt festival.
Hirst - One of my biggest regrets
is not twatting him when he tried to attack a mate of mine. Could understand his ire as my pal was half-strangling Keith Allen at the time. As I was trying to prise my mate's fingers from Allen's throat, I didn't take too kindly to Hirst's intervention. I merely roughly shoved him away and got back to saving Allen's hide. As I say, I regret missing a glorious opportunity to splatter him. He is a total arsehole as a person, possibly because he's aware he's a talentless charlatan.
His art? Mainly plagiarised, feeble jokes IMHO.
Why oh why?
Did you rescue Keith Allen from your mate's grip? Let the bugger choke. The man was jailed for nicking stuff out of Stackridge's dressing room and he was supposed to be a mate of theirs (allegedly).
Letting Keith Allen be choked to death
would have left my mate facing a rather long stretch, despite the obvious plea in mitigation that he was ridding the world of a wanker. My (exceedingly powerful) mate was extremely angry and the situation, though at first rather funny, was becoming very serious.
I'd still take Allen's company over Hirst's any day of the week.
What??
"a good technical draughtsman and painter"
Bollocks.
His self-penned show the other year demonstrated exactly the opposite. He's a journeyman scribbler at best.
What he is is a chancer, a conceptual artist and a businessman. And very good at all three he is.
Saw an exhibition of some of his very early stuff...
...a while back. It was pretty good. Not set-world-alight good, but pretty accomplished. I wasn't saying he was Constable. I was just saying that he's not "talentless".
Agree
He was slaughtered by the critics and the show, pretty conclusively, proved he was an utterly inept draughtsman. Should be on cover of 'Forbes' magazine - his natural home.
He's a repellent individual.
someone else told me sophie ellis bextor
was the nicest, most down to earth person to deal with backstage at an entire V festival once.
except for the foo fighters. who'd have thought eh?
can also vouch for noel gallagher who at the time of Wonderwall was stopped in the street by me and my sister and who acted like he had all day to stop and chat.
also brett anderson. couldn't, literally *could not* have been nicer.
even luke haines mentions suede's legendary 1993 'big pop star era' friendlines in a book where he hates every other perosn on the entire planet, even himself.
Foo Fighters
I bet Dave Grohl would be the sort of guy who would lend you Kiss Alive and then phone you to see what you thought of it. He so obviously a nice person.
See also: Robert Plant. Same kind of person.
grohl
Actually, nope, hes a tool (do a search for his name later on in htis page, i posted a TRUE WITH MY OWN EYES story about him, or, at least him ona bad day. screw liable laws..this is the truth, i saw it and 3 other friends saw it..think one may even have taken a photo)
Roger Taylor (Queen not Duran Duran version)
Was an absolute gent. Even signed his autograph twice and apologised that the first one was unreadable.
Tommy Vance was also lovely despite being a bit scary as his voice sounded just like it did on the radio (I'd always presumed substantial use of echo.) George Michael-shy but charming. Mark Owen is just as nice as he appears whereas Robbie wasn't, as he was great in a Tigger sort of way. Echo the comments on Fish, an absolute diamond, and Phil Lynott quite simply the largest presence I have ever met but in a good way. Tom Baker as a previous post indicated superb and barking.Elvis Costello-muso of almost irritating proportions but excellent company. Told to F off by Mike Oldfield but I was pleased that he'd even noticed my 16 yr old self demanding Froggy Went A-Courtin when he asked for requests at a particularly good Sheffield City Hall gig in 1982-Well he did smile at the same time so I took it for camaraderie.
Bruce Foxton-Greatest ever bass player and genuinely interested in talking as a person not star meets star struck.
On a less positive note,(although mixed I suppose)
David Coverdale-Don't you know who I am?
Me-Yes, and your album is still sh*t
DC-Oh fair enough
Bananarama
Nick Heyward
Rowan Atkinson
Kenneth Williams
Complete coc*s to a man (or woman)
Less
Corroboration
From a friend who encountered Rog in an Italian place in LA. Charming, friendly and approachable. His flunkeys were, apparently, to a man, tossers.
Nice to know
that it wasn't a one off. Forgot to say that he walked off with my pen though. With his money......
Most of the famous people I've met are politicians
and I need to keep my counsel (unless I make it down to London for drinkies of course). Not that I have any especially good tales.
I did once have to explain to Melvyn Bragg why I couldn't tell him what to say in a House of Lords debate (whilst all the time thinking "you're Melvyn Bragg, and you want ME to tell you what to say????") - he was a bit testy but civil.
My favourite was when the colleague across the desk from me had to make small talk with the effusively lovely Dickie Attenborough, who insisted on waiting on the phone rather than have us call him back. My colleague was looking increasingly panicky thinking of things to say (he'd just come to us after working in a job centre, so wasn't used to people being nice to him). When he finally resorted to a conversational "So, made any good films recently?" I literally fell off my chair laughing.
Robert Mugabe
Lovely bloke, signed my Will & Grace DVD.
Which tangential genius reminds me of story......
I work in professional football. Last season we entertained a club from the deepest depths of the industrial Ukraine. As is the custom, we entertained their directors pre match for some mutual backslapping and dinner approx 3 hours before kick off. One of their party didn't turn up. Much looking at watches and tutting from the Ukrainians and broken English apologies. 5 minutes before kick off (we'll call him Sergei), runs in to the suite clutching 4 HUGE HMV bags with the biggest grin on his face. With a huge flourish, he reached into one of the carriers and held aloft a box set of DVD's and said "look, we come to London and I've got the box set of My Family!! - only £20!"
Sergei - Legend.
Shakhtar Donetsk?
Also a Joe Strummer song, apparently
Look
I'm gonna make wee-wee in my boxers here if youse are gonna keep this up... God, this hasn't half cheered me up today...
The following were all charming
John Landis - even though I was distratcing him from looking at toy Daleks at the time
Sean Connery - even though I couldn't answer his question about duty free scotch
Ewan McGregor - even though I stood on his foot
Clarissa Dickson-Wright - she was full of praise for my bacon bap
Alex Higgins - though he was clearly knackered from attending a wedding he still signed autographs and posed for photographs
Julian Cope - utterly charming
I'm trying to guess…
… what your job is, based on the above vignettes
I've no idea
but I'm keen to try one of those lauded bacon baps
*dribbles*
The secret to making a winner of a bap for CDW?
Lightly toast the bun first.
Guess no more
I met Sean Connery,Ewan McGregor and Clarissa Dickson Wright when I worked at B'ham airport.
Alex Higgins was the guest of honour at a wedding I was working the bar for.
The following were not charming
Michael Caine - grumpier than a lump of coal
Carol Smilie - sinfully rude
David Copperfield - planet sized prat
David Copperfield - planet sized prat
The Magician or the one from "Three of a Kind " ?
Or.....
the one from Dickens?1
The former
He was with Claudia Schiffer at the time.
She towered over him and exuded natural grace.
He scurried behind her like a radioactive crab, scowling at everybody and tripping over his cuban heels.
Muso's are people too.
During my short stint as social sec. at art school I met quite a few beings of a musical bent,most were as one would expect,a little up themselves,a little overly refreshed and in the case of Arthur Brown mostly tonto.Spent a very illuminating and enjoyable afternoon talking painting with George Melly and a sweary entertaining post gig night with Phil Lynott.The nicest two as I recollect were Alan Carr and Ralph McTell,gents the pair of them.
Enjoying this too
Hall of Fame:
Ronnie Wood - just a great bloke
Simon Kirke - diamond geezer etc
Paul McGrath - complete gentleman
Jerry Hall - utterly charming
Jack Nicholson - genuinely funny
Simon le Bon - bit serious but straight up
Kirsty McCall - shy, lovely
Mitch Easter - friendly, interested
Phil Lynott - great presence, gentle guy
Niall Quinn - total gent
Hall of Shame:
Gilmour - it was a long time ago and maybe it was a bad day
Norman Watt-Roy - what a player!, and, er,....
Van the Pram - I hardly need to add anything here
Georgie Fame - see 'Gilmour' above. Narky in the extreme
Somewhere in Between:
Jagger - Maybe he was just shy
Geoff Travis - D Green's description above of him as 'cool and suspicious' is bang on!
The Unforgiveable Four - 3 of them are fine...
Fame has spent
quite a time as Van Moaner's musical director/ivory twinkler hasn't he? Surely he deserves a pass for the years of suffering?
Never..
approach or work with Ben Fogle. That's all I'm saying.
Is it because
he's actually a pullover in human form?
just remembered
My brother used to work in a trendy boutique adjacent to the Westbury Hotel in Dublin and Jason Donovan, who was stayiong there, came in and spent most of the day talking to him; they went clubbing that night (Ithink this might've during Jase's 'grey period') but my bros says he was a top geezer, couldn't have been nicer.
But what about Kylie? Anybody bumped into the Ausie squeak?
A mate was security when Jason did a club PA in his "lost years"
before Joseph. Came on stage and the UV light seemed to pick up lots of, uh, white dust on certain bits of his phizzog.
She visited a bar I worked in once
And I made her a mint julep. She was exceedingly sweet, given that the entire place was staring at her.
David Coverdale...
Big hero of mine and the nicest person you could ever meet. Made a great joke about Ravenelli signing for Boro', something about pasta if I remember, and after only being introduced to me once remembered my name an hour later when me met again. Him on the way to the bogs, me to the bar. As lemmy said of meeting Michael Palin "Its nice to meet one of your heroes who doesn't turn out to be a C**t."
I also sat next to Rik Wakeman on a plane and he didn't say I word, which I was pleased about because I hate talking on planes.
My Dad has met Damon Hill and said he was an arse but Jenson Button, standing next to him at the urinal, was very pleasant.
I played a gig at Queen's
University in Belfast and in the building next to the tent there was a classical concert going on - I had a wee beside James Galway, the flautist! Very pleasant man. Washed his hands as well, just in case any of youse've been invited round to his gaffe for dinner.
I'm sure there's a joke in there
Flautist at a urinal.
No. Can't do it.
I know
Before I posted it, I scoured the old grey cells, but alas, nowt came out.
A man walks into the Doctors and says
Man: Doctor doctor, when I pee it goes everywhere - all over the floor, up the walls, I get soaked every time
Doctor: OK let's have a look
Discovers the man's todger is full of holes
Doctor: How did that happen
Man: I carry my darts in my pocket
Doctor: (writes down a name and hands it to the man) Go and see this fella
Man: Is he a willy specialist or something?
Doctor: No he's a flautist, he'll teach you how to hold it
Thank you, I'm here all week, try the fish.
The 'Flautist at a Urinal' Joke!
A man goes to the doctor and explains that a number of holes have appeared along the length of his todger - every time he visits the urinal he pisses in various directions all over the floor, causing much consternation to himself and other urinal users. The doctor is sympathetic to this highly embarrassing problem and takes a look at the offending todger. He scratches his head and peers at the thing. The worried patient asks if he can do anything. The doctor finally tells him he will send him to a good friend of his. The patient is relieved and asks if the friend is a consultant who can cure him. The doctor says "No, he's a flautist. He can't cure this, but he'll show you how to hold it!"
Coverdale
was bemoaning the lack of display of his then current recording in a place of prominence (Coverdale Page, if memory serves.) I pointed out its relative lower ranking in the new releases of that week and the reported exchange took place.
The fact that he took it in good part suggests his 'good egg' status should remain intact. As a fan since 'Snakebite ep' I was just a little disappointed at the don't you know who I am manner of his enquiry.
Elvis Costello
Some years ago, Mrs F and I went to see George Jones and Tammy Wynette at Hammersmith. We were in our seats with the place filling up when who should go into the seat a couple of rows ahead of us: none other than Elvis. And what a thoroughly nice bloke he was too: the poor fella couldn't even slip off to the loo in peace but fair do's - he signed autographs, posed with fans for photo's, shook hands and was as pleasant as anyone could be.
It must be frustrating for a 'sleb when a quick pee break turns into a 20 minute meet n' greet and you're constantly being tapped on the shoulder but credit to Elvis, he did it all with immense good grace.
Van Morrison
Not met him, and don't want to, but just wanted to relate the story told on an old Word podcast some years ago. He used to insist that his backing band were ready and waiting for him in the recording studio but then didn't arrive for hours. Fed up with this, the musicians had the idea of taking his selection of harmonicas and wiping their arses on them. They could hardly contain themselves when Van reached for them during recording. Mark Ellen tells it a lot better.
Van Morrison
Stood next to him and his minder in a lift at LWT. He just stared at me.
were you
dressed as a mouth organ at the time?
Van Morrison
I saw Van Morrison in the restaurant of the Royal Hotel in Bangor around the time "Avalon Sunset" came out. He was on his own and, as I remember, he was wearing a tatty cardigan with a big hole in it. As I left I stopped at his table an told him respectfully how much I enjoyed his new album. He replied,in his wonderful East Belfast brogue that has remained unchanged over the years, "fuck off son I am having my dinner". Several years later I saw my idol again when my friend had Van and his entourage threw out of a wedding reception in the Crawfordsburn Inn which they had gatecrashed. Van was not in a very good mood that night either and told my friend his wedding reception was shit. As you can see Van is known to be a charmer throughout North Down
Well, at the restaurant
he would have been famished.
Van: a North Down Legend
"There's that dreadful wee man again. You know he kicks dogs?".
Ballyholme Bay some years ago and my elderly Mum makes a run to collect her Schnauzer before it meets the end of Van's boot.
No wonder these two
are looking a bit nervous...
There's always one
Isn't there?
I met him after his set at an outdoor Edinburgh Rock Festival in 1979. He was polite and friendly and I have the autographed programme to prove it.
My wife has met Kylie
A few times. Was a bit precious and 'don't you know who I am' sadly. While Jason Donovan is a true gent.
But
what was Kylie like?
Bmmmm-tssh!
Tosser v. Legends
Sat next to David Mellor at lunch at House of commons. Absolute tosser had to have something different for every course and never stopped talking about football.
Saw Gene Vincent in Green Man pub in Burton on Trent in 1963. He seemed a bit phased at being approached by a 16 year old a little the worse for drink, but was happy to pass the time of day.
Was offered a chip by Ray Davies who was sitting in a snooker hall with the Kinks waiting to go on stage at Jubilee Hall Burton around 1963/4.
Came across Mellor
when he was my MP and have to say he seemed OK, though he was rather disconcertingly wearing a suit and tie with white socks and sandals ensemble.
However, an elderly lady who I used to work with said Mellor had been a neighbour of hers back in the 70's and he made her life a total misery.
Over the years I've met (or more accurately served) several celebs and on the whole they are fine. Dishonourable exceptions would be Alex Higgins and McCririck.
Most noticeably pleasant, Celia Imrie, Derek Thompson (Racing guy)and David Healy (Norn Iron footballing hero).
The
total shit - Damon Albarn
A total delight - Graham Coxon
Who'da thunk it eh?
A friend of mine...
...had a drink with the former Head of BBC Light Entertainment. This was a man who'd dealt with every major entertainer of the previous twenty-five years, was challenged to name just one star who wasn't capable of behaving like an absolute arse when the mood took him.
This man thought and thought and thought and thought. Then, just as he was about to give up, his face brightened as an idea came to him. "There is one. Rolf Harris!"
Oddly enough
I was once very rude to a gracious Rolf. I was slaving away in my capacity as Skegness Butlins' hardest-working glass collector at 1am after an ardous night of enduring the thudding banter of boozed-up campers. As I wearily wiped down a table, I was aware of a couple of figures behind me - one of whom began trying to crack a few jokes.
Unfortunately, I merely wanted to stumble back to my room - which was once used to imprison German PoWs, honest - and was in little mood for sparkling Antipodean anecdotes. So I just said: 'Yeah, nice one mate. But I'm a bit busy right now.' Said Aussie chap laughed, said 'fair enough', and sauntered off. It was only then I looked up and saw I'd snubbed Rolf - as my boss tried to eviscerate me using only his eyes.
I wouldn't mind, but I would've loved to have asked Rolf, 'Can you well what it is yet?' as I scrubbed that dirty table..
Mixed bags
Edwina Currie - Met her at a do for woman truck drivers. Well informed and surprisingly unpatronising for a politician.
Anneka Rice - deeply horrible woman, the nastiest 'personality' I've ever had the misfortune etc... Insecure and selfish to the nth degree. Remember 'Challenge Anneka?' Went on an aid convoy to Croatia with her, everyone else, mainly volunteers, roughed it for a couple of weeks. She just swanned in from a hotel for soundbites. I could go on but leave it , she really isn't worth it...
Anita Roddick - nice enough, but there comes a point when hippy enthusiasm starts to resemble fascism. The enforced wacky 'alternative' jollity of the Body Shop factory reminded me of Simon Pegg's manager in Black Books
Sandy Denny - ethereal and stoned - well it was 40 odd years ago...
Alberto E Los Trios etc - top geezers
George Melly - as above
The late Johnny Dankworth (and Cleo) absolutely lovely, charming, friendly, happy to chat to any and everybody
Vinnie Jones - macho twat
Ricky Tomlinson - will talk to anyone -a proper old leftie
Sally Traffic - a trouper
Johnnie Walker - ditto
I expected to hate Clarkson, but stuck in the passport line at Malpensa airport he kept everyone entertained with anecdotes about ZZ Top. I'm guessing the solipsistic extrovert is:
a) Happy when the centre of attention
b) Nice when everything is going his way
Effectively a 15 year old boy then...
"Vinnie Jones - macho twat"
Who'd have thought it?
:-)
He cut me up once
in his car (doesn't carry a blade as far as I know).
Recognised him immediately and refrained from using
the driver's universal sign of disapproval.
"Leave it Aitch! Ee's not worf the bovver!!"
Van Morrison
I was working in a branch of Waterstone's many years ago and sold Van Morrison a couple of books, (Teach Yourself Gaelic and Rosemary Eyton's F Plan Diet, if you're asking). The transaction began well enough but he started to appear agitated when it became clear that I had no idea who he was - after a couple of heavy hints about his band playing locally that night he snatched the bag from me and stalked out of the shop. The bloke behind him in the queue asked me breathlessly DON'T YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS? He never played Preston Guild Hall again.
See that oul' Van
I must apologise on behalf of myself and the rest of Belfast/Ireland for the grumpiness of the aforementioned sad old git in a raincoat.
But he's from the Woodstock Road, and they're not known for their bonhomie and joie-de-vivre. They put a plaque on Van's house in the 90s, and invited him to cut the ribbon. But he told them to f-off too.
Good thing too, because the though of that man with a pair of scissors in his hand in a crowded area, doesn't bear thinking about.
by the way
the above about Morrison is true, not a gag. look it up. Belfast city were fair scunnered.
Van
I was his Product Manager (I hate that term) at Virgin when we signed him for a couple of albums around the turn of the millenium.
He graciously did a showcase at Ronnie Scott's and afterwards his manager came over and said to me that Van would like to meet me. Being a fan and obviously aware of his reputation I was shitting myself. I mean, what is your opening gambit to a man of his standing - especially when you're stone-cold sober..
Anyway, he was the perfect gent. He was absolutely thrilled to be playing at Ronnie's and waxed lyrical about all the jazzers that had played there in the past. Having