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Factually Inaccurate Lyrical Pedantry

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Can anybody think of any examples of lyrical inaccuracies? Here are some off the top of my head:
Madness - “Driving in My Car”
Describing a “Morris” :
“It was made in ’59/ in a factory by the Tyne” (The Morris was built in Cowley). The lyrics also state that it was used by the G.P.O. at some point but the open topped Morris used in the video for the song doesn’t look like the sort of think Postman Pat would ever drive.

U2 – “Pride (In the name of Love)”
“Early morning, April 4, shot rings out in the Memphis sky” (Martin Luther King was shot at 6.01pm that evening)

Charlene “I’ve never been to me” :
"I've been to Nice/and the isle of Greece/where I sipped champagne on a yacht..." (isle?)

Any More?

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I’ve never been to me

You've got to admire a song that rhymes 'exploring' and 'subtle whoring' though.

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yorkio | 27 September 2011 - 10:18am

I always wanted to know

the things she'd seen that 'a woman ain't supposed to see'.

I can only imagine she'd come home to find her husband cracking one off over the Freeman's Catalogue.

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Brookster | 27 September 2011 - 10:28am

I suspect rather too many women have seen that

than can be good for society..

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BernkastelCues | 30 September 2011 - 11:58am

It does also depend to an extent on what he was wearing

If he was dressed in a maids outfit and wearing a replica VC things could get (even more) sticky

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FakeGeordie | 30 September 2011 - 8:49pm

i've heard of "specialist tastes"

but a maid's outfit with a replica Victoria Cross?

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Glenbervie | 30 September 2011 - 11:43pm

Yep

...certainly beats my nurse's uniform and flippers

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Black Type | 1 October 2011 - 9:39am

Oh I dunno

needing a specific fictitious Australian dolphin in the room before you can get your jollies qualifies as a highly "specialist taste" in my book...

Oh sorry flipperS. As you were

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STD | 6 October 2011 - 12:16pm

Was there

a porpoise to that reply?

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Black Type | 6 October 2011 - 7:55pm

I'd rather go blind

Nope, never. But then, I wouldn't have a Freeman's catalogue in the house.

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LastRoseofSummer | 15 March 2012 - 12:28pm

Can I add a tautology?

"4am in the morning, carried away by a moonlight shadow"

As opposed to 4am in the afternoon?

Whether one can be carried away by a shadow is a separate matter. It seems unlikely.

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titmus | 27 September 2011 - 10:21am

Unless...

Bruce Welch has very strong arms.

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Patrick Crowther | 27 September 2011 - 10:29am

Euro

In the (far superior, in my opinion) Euro cover version by Groove Coverage, the singer sings the word 'am' as in 'I am'. That makes even less sense.

Those crazy Germans.

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Art Vandelay | 27 September 2011 - 10:32am

Ouch!

Ears. Bleeding. Those crazy Germans, indeed...

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Dadwardo | 27 September 2011 - 11:09am

Led Zeppelin...

"It's been a long time since I rock and rolled" - Well Robert, strictly speaking the 24 hours since you were last on stage does not constitute a great length of time.

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Patrick Crowther | 27 September 2011 - 10:28am

it was in zoso time...

In the pedantry of the day, Robert was 'rocking'- 'rock and roll' was from the 50s. Around 970/71 Greil Marcus actually wrote a long an detailed piece dissecting when 'rock and roll' became 'rock' and the difference between 'bands' and 'groups'. I think it was in an early Bomp.

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Jonh Ingham | 1 October 2011 - 9:27am

Verily, the hour of the Crowthmeister...

...has come! First the parallel universe thread and now this one! :-D

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 10:35am

More an example of utter shite than inaccurate

but the excremental Summer of '69 has the lines...

Me and some guys from school
Had a Band and we tried real hard
Jimmy quit and Jody got married

The thing that has always bugged me is how hard did they actually try? He says straight out that Jimmy quit and Jody got married. That leads me to believe that nine year old Bryan and his cronies did not try very hard.

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Cookieboy | 27 September 2011 - 10:41am

It's been said before around here...

...and I, regrettably, don't recall by whom (though will gladly extol the individual if he/she were to come forward on this occasion) - that one of the finest examples of lyrical buffoonery on the accuracy front has to be in Thin Lizzy's 'Jailbreak':

'Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak / Somewhere in this town...'

Er, that'd be at the jail, wouldn't it...?

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 11:01am

What if the town

has more than one jail? Is it the borstal (then t would be Sham 69's Borstal breakout), the open prison or the maximum security prison for the kiddie fiddlers and sex cases?

All would require different methods of escape and authorities response to it

"Sometimes the snow comes down in June" - well in certain parts of the world, say Alaska or the Antarctic - yes
"Sometimes the sun goes round the moon" - nope

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 11:14am

These are fair points, Doggo...

...though I doubt that Thin Lizzy's core audience would have been expected, by Phil, to have appreciated these possibilities. If he were truly raising concerns over the security of a variety of restrictive establishments, might he not have sung:

"Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak / But at this stage the information is inconclusive as to which of the secure institutions is likely to need a review of its security in the morning"

You can just imagine him doing his fist-shaking thing with legs akimbo on the monitor whilst imparting this accurate but somewhat dull information to the kids.

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 11:24am

Well thats why he sings

"somewhere in this town" as he doesn't want to tip off the peelers and get kneecapped for being a grass. It was widely believed that Phil was the notorious police informant known as "Steak-knife" whearas we now know that was Cozy Powell

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 11:35am

Of course, Dogmeister - how could I have forgotten?

...he was notorious for Cozying up to the fuzz.

All those years and no one asked 'Why does this man move between bands every three weeks?' when in fact he was infiltrating single-handedly the whole of the 70s rock world...

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 11:42am

In the same vein

I listened to Thin Lizzy's Bad Reputation album last week, which features a song called "Killer Without A Cause"

The chorus runs:

"He's a Killer
Without a Cause,
The time is right
To settle scores"

The apparent need to settle scores suggest that the killer in question is not simply a ruthless gun for hire but does have some personal motivation to eliminate his victims - a cause if you prefer. So "Killer with a Cause" might be a more appropriate song title

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Humphrey Plugg | 27 September 2011 - 11:43am

I don't know their ouevre well but...

...I have a suspicion that if we concentrated this thread solely on the works of Thin Lizzy it'd still get into triple figures...

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 12:05pm

The B Side

of Parisienne Walkways is Fanatical Fascists, written by Phil Lynott. Apparently they have Italian Moustaches.

The song says - 21 times in fact - They just don't care. Which is unusual, for fanatics.

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Captain Underpants | 27 September 2011 - 2:15pm

Fanatical Fascists

There are some songs you don't have to hear to know they'll be crap. The title tells you. This, surely, is one such song.

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Rosbif | 29 September 2011 - 12:22pm

You think that song's bad...

...have you heard Talk in '79 from Phil's Solo in Soho album? It's his Subterranean Homesick Blues for the punk generation and it is as bad as that sounds!!!

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Trevor_Raggatt | 29 September 2011 - 5:32pm

Unless, of course, the

Unless, of course, the entire Dimension 5 was in fact one de facto prison of the consciousness and expressions of free will. A system which needed to be literally and figuratively smashed until rioting and anti-Overmaster direct action sprung up, spontaneously, all across the town. All this egged on by a lone band of rebel troubadours (albeit aided and abetted by the Phono-Graphics organisation) who had holed themselves up in the Rampic Buildingsrecording and broadcasting selected material in the hopes that would cause the populous to rise up against the Overmaster - initiating what would become "The Final War".

Ah, if only there was a Warrior who would come to the aid of those who struggled to become free...

NOTE TO SELF: must stop reading album sleeve notes QUITE so closely!

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Trevor_Raggatt | 27 September 2011 - 10:11pm

Ahem.

The most significant June snowfall in recent memory was on 2 June 1975, when snow fell in many parts of the country. The Essex and Kent cricket match in Colchester was interrupted, while the match between Derbyshire and Lancashire at Buxton was called off after 2.5cm (1in) of snow settled on the outfield.

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skirky | 27 September 2011 - 11:46am

Yes and

what are seen as signs of global warming but may be in fact natural changes over time do cause freak weather conditions - THANKS A LOT, AL GORE! Although anything that stops cricket is a good thing

But no fucking sun is going round no fucking moon anytime soon!

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 11:50am

That depends on your point of reference.

If, for sake of argument, the moon is your fixed point of reference, then indeed the sun (and everything else for that matter) goes round the moon.

It doesn't just do it 'sometimes' though, I'll grant you that.

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Paul Waring | 27 September 2011 - 12:53pm

Well if

it was single by Neil Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin then that's fine

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 1:20pm

Any two objects...

...with mass have a mutual gravitational attraction. It may be obvious that the gravitational pull of the Earth is drawing me towards its centre, but it's also true that I am, in my own small way, pulling the Earth upwards towards me.

It's easy to see this mutual attraction when the objects are of similar size, such as Pluto and Charon, which effectively orbit each other. With objects where the difference in size is greater it becomes harder to see that the two objects are orbiting each other, but they are. When a spacecraft is orbiting the Earth the mass of the craft is imperceptibly deflecting the Earth's path through space.

So the sun does indeed go around the moon. A bit. And as Paul Waring says, not sometimes, but always.

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Inky Fingers | 27 September 2011 - 8:09pm

June Snowfall

I think I have a couple of her albums. She was a bit like Sandy Denny, right?

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Hawkfall | 13 April 2012 - 5:32am

Definitely my favourite

of Massive Attack's guest singers..

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STD | 16 April 2012 - 6:05pm

Jailbreak

This example crops up every couple of weeks or so as a supposed example of lyrical gauchery, but isn't it possible that Lynott is using the concept of 'jailbreak' as a metaphor for freeing oneself from various everyday oppressors ('The Man' or ones 'old lady', perhaps)?

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David Rothon | 27 September 2011 - 1:45pm

Mark Radcliffe

I still remember the inflection.

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jonnybrick | 27 September 2011 - 8:25pm

I am the walrus

No you're not etc.

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BryanD | 27 September 2011 - 11:07am

Well

They are the egg men.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 1:37pm

Bruce and Bob

Bruce said....

I got a sixty-nine Chevy with a 396
Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor

Apparently this is all compete bollocks, car, engine and performance enhancements are all incompatible. Sounds good though.

What has always bugged me about Bob's "Hurricane" is the miscarriage of justice...

"The DA said he was the one who did the deed
And the all White jury agreed"

Even so Hurricane Carter went down, even after the DA's confession. Hard.

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Twangothan | 27 September 2011 - 11:15am

Bob has it both ways

in Hurricane

"So they took him to the infirmary
And though this man could hardly see
They told him that he could identify the guilty men."

Here Dylan indicates that the man's evidence will be unreliable, despite the police insisting that it will be ok.

"Four in the morning and they haul Rubin in
Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs
The wounded man looks up through his one dying eye
Says "Wha'd you bring him in here for ? He ain't the guy !" "

However, when the wounded man with the one dying eye fails to identify Hurricane as his attacker, this is taken as valid evidence for the defence.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 1:36pm

Dylan's accusative legal songs

always play fast and loose with the facts. He had to re-record Hurricane after the first version was deemed libellous

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 1:42pm

Joey

in which we learn that if a judge ever asks you the time it's one to two, and never eleven to twelve.

I know justice is a farce but there should be better sentencing guidelines available.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 3:11pm

Hurricane

I remember seeing a website which takes each line of Hurricane and debunks it. Some of that here:

http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

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Twangothan | 27 September 2011 - 4:13pm

yeah but

do they do it in song?

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Junior Wells | 16 March 2012 - 2:24am

My favourite fact from that page

Rubin Carter was defeated by a man, then world champion, called Dick Tiger.

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Gatz | 16 March 2012 - 2:33am

The mods work

Feeling compelled to reply as a petrol-head who grew up with muscle cars, Bruce's Hurst works - it's a racing type gear shift. The "fuelie heads" though - uh uh. They were made for a smaller engine.

But like the shopping lists in The Beach Boys "409" and "I Get Around", are you there for hot rod accuracy or poetry?

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Jonh Ingham | 1 October 2011 - 9:35am

Remember though that the original lyric

as in the reproduction of Bruce's notebook in the DOTEOT box, was

"I've got a 32 Ford, she's a 318,
Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor"

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stimpy | 1 October 2011 - 2:11pm

I let Bruce off

in the same way I do the Beach Boys with their Little Deuce Coupe shutting people down. I have no idea what goes on under the bonnet so take t as gospel

Just a little Deuce Coupe with a flathead mill
But she'll walk a Thunderbird like it's standin' still
She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored
She'll do a hundred and forty in the top end floored

She's got a competition clutch with four on the floor
And she purrs like a kitten till the lake pipes roar
And if that ain't enough to make you flip your lid
There's one more thing, I've got the pink slip, Daddy

She's my little Deuce Coupe
You don't know what I've got

--- got that right

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 11:42am

I think a Duece Coupe is

a hot rod based on the 1932 Ford three-window coupe.

The 'flathead mill' is the Ford V8 engine from the 1930s which had a unique design resultng in a flat head rather than the tall curved cylinder head of typical engines.

'Four on the floor' refers to a four-speed manual gearbox operated by a floor-mounted gearstick, rather than a steering column mounted automatic gearbox.

'Lake pipes' were straight through exhausts (no silencers) used for racing on the dry lakes just inland from the California coast. They often exited sideways under the doors rather than through a traditional tailpipe at the back of the car.

The pink slip is the ownership document - like the DVLA V5 document.

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stimpy | 27 September 2011 - 5:51pm

Stimpy, pictured earlier...

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ivan | 27 September 2011 - 5:59pm

Stimps

Purple is SO YOU

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FakeGeordie | 30 September 2011 - 8:56pm

S'

a good song thou

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 6:43pm

Heaven on 4 wheels

"She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored
She'll do a hundred and forty in the top end floored"

Porting and relieving means machining the block and heads to improve the flow of gasses and relieve pressure from building up in certain areas, both improve horsepower.

Stroking is changing the distance the piston moves up and down to create more pressure in the cylinder - more horsepower.

Boring is making the cylinder bigger to increase engine capacity - yep, more horsepower.

Doing 140 in a deuce coupe was - at the time - lakes racing record breaking speed.

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Jonh Ingham | 1 October 2011 - 9:44am

Cliff, the girl sounds a mess...

I've got myself a cryin', talkin', sleepin', walkin', livin' doll..

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Baskerville Old Face | 27 September 2011 - 11:48am

As Peter Kay says

There she was just walking down the street
singing Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Doo
Snappin' her fingers and shufflin' her feet
singing Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Doo
She looked good
She looked fine - How? A shambling, finger clicking drunk?

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 12:22pm

I suspect Social Services would be involved somewhere

And Richey Edwards would have written the back story for the Living Doll. In fact, I think he did (Little Baby Nothing).

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Six Dog | 27 September 2011 - 12:30pm

well, he was threatening to

lock her up in a trunk.

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davebigpicture | 27 September 2011 - 2:50pm

Yeah

dump her Clif - who needs that kind of aggro ?

Stay a batchelor boy - that's the way to be.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 2:41pm

Too late

Now he's eyeing up someone with a strangely satanic mien and an apparent interest in strap-on fun...

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Black Type | 1 October 2011 - 9:50am

Katie Melua - no, not the bit about bicycles...

In 2005, Melua was criticised by writer and scientist Simon Singh for inaccurate lyrics referring to the size of the observable universe ("We are 12 billion light-years from the edge. That's a guess — no-one can ever say it's true"). Melua and Singh met, and Melua re-recorded a tongue-in-cheek version of the song that had been written by Singh: "We are 13.7 billion light-years from the edge of the observable universe; that's a good estimate with well-defined error bars/and with the available information, I predict that I will always be with you".

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skirky | 27 September 2011 - 11:48am

Seems to have a GSOH, Katie Melua

Mark Radcliffe got her in while covering for Steve Wright a few years back and she performed listener submitted lyrics to "If You Were a Sailboat". Pick (that I can remember) was,

"If you were a pool I'd chlorinate you."

Great stuff.

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milkybarnick | 27 September 2011 - 12:37pm

Here it is:

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Fraser M | 28 September 2011 - 10:44am

While I'm here, I should point out to Roger Hodgson

that not everyone in Texas is a millionaire.

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skirky | 27 September 2011 - 11:54am

The obvious one

"Yellow man in Timbuktu..."

Errrrrr........

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man.of.soup | 27 September 2011 - 12:22pm

You say that..

There are many tribes of Kalahari bushmen who have yellow-tinted skin. He might've been one of them on holiday or something.

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Lenny Law | 27 September 2011 - 12:53pm

Could've

had something wrong with his liver...

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milkybarnick | 27 September 2011 - 4:26pm
skirky | 27 September 2011 - 1:46pm

Bless

you

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man.of.soup | 28 September 2011 - 12:31pm

Speaking of which...

"Jungle Rock" by Hank Mizzell
A fox, a rabbit and a camel are amongst the animals mentioned in this song, What were they doing in the jungle?

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neilio | 27 September 2011 - 12:44pm

Clearly *they* were doing the Jungle Rock

but my question is, what was Hank doing there in the middle of the night? Anything could have befallen him.

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skirky | 27 September 2011 - 1:21pm

Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face.

Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race.
On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place.
If the summer change to winter, yours is no disgrace.

Tchoh! What baloney! Everyone knows you have to have autumn after summer and before winter.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 27 September 2011 - 12:56pm

Ian Dury and the Theory of Relativity

"Einstein can't be classed as witless.
He claimed atoms were the littlest."

Actually, Ian, Einstein's theories made it quite clear that there must be lots of things that are littler than an atom.

Not such a clever barstard then, eh?

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Paul Waring | 27 September 2011 - 12:59pm

Queen- I Want to Break Free

I've fallen in love for the first time,
This time I know it's for real.

Erm... Freddie, old chap, it's either the first time or it's not. And if it is, then how do you know that it's for real? With no previous experience to compare it to I'd say that your judgement is a tad rash.

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Peckham For The... | 27 September 2011 - 1:16pm

No, that one's fine

The protatgonist had believed he had fallen in love before but now 'knows' that he is experiencing 'real' love, and so dismisses his former infatuations.

There may be other evidence in the text that he is once more deluded and the writer is employing dramatic irony, but frankly I'd rather pull my teeth out with a staple extractor than listen to the song so I'll never know.

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Gatz | 27 September 2011 - 2:05pm

Motörhead - 'Jailbait'

"I don't even dare to ask your age / It's enough to know you're here backstage". Lemmy old chap, sorry to sound contrarian but you could quite easily ask her how old she is. It's easy. You simply open your mouth and say "How old are you?" The fact that you haven't done so is not a question of daring, more a case of your being a greasy rock pervert and not being bothered.

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Patrick Crowther | 27 September 2011 - 1:21pm

Earlier today...

... I listened to a tune called Tantrik Ass Rape by Skullflower.

I have to say that that title makes no sense at all: the word Tantrik suggests consent whereas Ass Rape suggests the very opposite. Skullflower really need to be given a dictionary.

The ditty itself can be found here. It's perfectly SFW, as it's an instrumental.

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ganglesprocket | 27 September 2011 - 1:22pm

I think

You've been had. Skullflower have simply released the sound of a Saturn V taking off, and claimed authorship. Worst case of plagiarism I've come across.

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policybloke1 | 27 September 2011 - 7:25pm

But he obviously wants to shag her

but if he asks her age and finds out she's underage he would feel bad about it. Don't ask, don't tell is Motorhead's policy

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DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 1:23pm

Hawkwind commit grave errors against accuracy

"Moonglum, friend without a reason
Moonglum, friend without a cause
Embarrassed by a show of love
But would stand by the man of the feeble blood"

I contend that this suppressed love is both a reason and a cause.

"Einstein was not a handsome fellow
Nobody ever called him Al
He had a long moustache to pull on
It was yellow
I don't believe he ever had a girl"

Einstein had an intimate relationship (and a daughter!) with Mileva Marić. They married in 1903. In 1914, Einstein moved to Berlin, while his wife remained in Zurich - they divorced on 14 February 1919 (the old romantic !). He then married Elsa Löwenthal (née Einstein) on 2 June 1919, after having had a relationship with her since 1912. She was his first cousin maternally and his second cousin paternally.

He also had affairs with upwards of 7 other women during his second marraige.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 1:27pm

Apologies in advance...

"He then married Elsa Löwenthal (née Einstein) on 2 June 1919, after having had a relationship with her since 1912. She was his first cousin maternally and his second cousin paternally."

Just proving his theory of relativity, presumably.

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geebee | 27 September 2011 - 1:44pm

Bowie

"Planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do "

Not even sing, I suppose.

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 1:39pm

A Spaceman Came Travelling

"A spaceman came traveling on his ship from afar
'twas light years of time since his mission did start", sings Chris De Burgh in this mawkish Christmas 'favourite'. Regrettably, a light year is a unit not of time, but of distance (the latter concept already covered by the use of 'from afar'.)

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David Rothon | 27 September 2011 - 1:40pm

see also

"Did the Kessel run in less than 2 parsecs" in Star Wars

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paulwright | 27 September 2011 - 1:59pm

Hidden Science Fiction

In I shall be released, Bob Dylan has "my light come shining in from the West unto the East". Seeing as the sun rises in the East on this planet, obviously he is writing from the point of view of someone incarcerated on an alien planet. Venus perhaps.

In a similar vein, I didnt realise for decades that Queen's '39 is not about miners in the gold rush as I thought but colony ships setting off for space. Good old Brian.

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paulwright | 27 September 2011 - 2:00pm

'39

As far as I know, '39 is also the only song in the rock canon to feature a more-or-less generally accurate description of the time dilation effect predicted by relativity. Good old Brian, the curly-headed, curly-leaded fireplace-bothering funster.

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Bob | 27 September 2011 - 2:02pm

Given the pedantic nature of this thread

I feel obliged to point out that Brain's singing about the return of the spaceship (singular), some form of scouting vessel, after what seems to the crew like only a year away.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 27 September 2011 - 2:14pm

But surely

if you are watching a sunset then the light is coming 'from the West unto the East' and that Bob is railing against the dying of the light and that one day he will be released from the misery of life in the twilight of his years (although only 26 at the time of writing perhaps he felt old before his time).

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hubertrawlinson | 27 September 2011 - 2:52pm

Could be

Hadn't thought of that. Obviously I am not poetical enough. And too much of a physicist.
Genuinely makes me feel better, because I love the song but that line jarred my teeth. Now I have an explanation I can relax. Please, nobody disagree.

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paulwright | 27 September 2011 - 7:58pm

Although it's possible

that he just needed a word to rhyme with released.

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hubertrawlinson | 27 September 2011 - 8:56pm

Now

you've ruined it again.... sob.

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paulwright | 29 September 2011 - 4:58pm

Sorry

I was right the first time. As you were

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hubertrawlinson | 29 September 2011 - 9:14pm

"I will give you

my finest hour - the one I spent watching you shower."

As has been often pointed out - no-one showers for an hour. I suspect that Ms Debbie Blondie was alluding to an accumulation of seperate occassions which in total came to an hour of slightly pervy shower watching.

To be honest, you'd think he'd notice after a while...

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 2:16pm

Unless...

...Debs was using the phrase 'you shower' in the plural, Terry-Thomas sense?

Her finest hour may have been watching a number of individuals, in activities unknown, about whom she has a disparaging opinion. So if that is, in fact, her finest hour, it doesn't say much about the quality of her life experiences in general does it?

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 2:28pm

For that very reason

I had rejected that explanation....

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 2:32pm

Um...

My older Stimpette (16) often spends an hour in the shower, especially on Saturday afternoons whilst preparing for a night on the town.

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stimpy | 27 September 2011 - 5:58pm

If I thought the delectable Ms Harry

Was watching me shower, I'd stay in there as long as she wanted. Or until the water turned cold. Because that wouldn't be very helpful.

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sitheref2409 | 27 September 2011 - 6:38pm

Perv

but I know what you mean

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 10:03pm

Clearly like most people he normally spends a couple of minutes

under the water. But today he notices Debbie staring at him and thinks "She's going to whip off her kit and join me in here any second". So he lingers a little longer (she's still watching, after all). Nothing happens. He keeps telling himself "Just another minute" as every time she shifts a little he thinks "Here we go".
But after an hour he goes "Sod it. She's not paying my heating bill."

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STD | 28 September 2011 - 5:46pm

A double pedant writes...

Charlene “I’ve never been to me” :
"I've been to Nice/and the isle of Greece/where I sipped champagne on a yacht..." (isle?)

To be fair, I think the lovely Charlene actually sings "the isles of Greece", unlike that Gallagher boy going slowly down the hall faster than a cannonball.

Of course, if Einstein was wrong, then all bets are off...

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MarkHagen | 27 September 2011 - 2:19pm

Treble pedant

I think the line "slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball" originally came from "Chigley". The narrator Brian Cant used this phrase whenever Lord Belborough's butler, "Brackett" had to walk down an extremenly long corridor to answer the phone. Therefore, although Noel Gallagher used this line - he cant be blamed for writing it. I presume it was written by "Trumptonshire" creator Gordon Murray (I wonder if he's ever thought of trying to claim a share of the songwriting royalties for Champagne Supernova?)

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neilio | 27 September 2011 - 2:41pm

I understand that Einstein...

...came up with his ideas on relativity and the apparent variabilities in time from the position of the observer and the observed with speed and distance factored in largely through watching endless reruns of Lord Belborough's guy perambulating that Infinite Corridor (down at his local cinema in the early 1900s).

The talkie version, with Brian Cant, wasn't made until the 1920s of course.

0
Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 2:47pm

TMBG

Although they did make amends;

3
seanioio | 27 September 2011 - 2:27pm

I don't want to know

but I bet Ted Nugent's love isn't really like a tire iron.

1
BryanD | 27 September 2011 - 2:29pm

Another Queen Chestnut

I love when this thread comes around, because I can trot out my favourite:

She's a killer queen,
Gunpowder gelatine
Dynamite with a laser beam
Guaranteed to blow your mind.

I've never understood what gelatine would contribute to the blowing of someone's mind. The most drastic thing I've seen gelatine do was prevent vegetarians from eating Haribos.

3
Lucky Tiler | 27 September 2011 - 2:42pm

You need to

go to Wikipedia and look up Water gel explosives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_gel_explosive

0
Locust | 27 September 2011 - 3:01pm

Yeah!

and Moët should have a hard T since it's a Dutch name.

0
Fraser M | 27 September 2011 - 3:05pm

And 'in a pretty cabinet'?

Hardly ideal drinking temperature for such an expensive choice

0
FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 3:38pm

I'm a road runner baby...

...better look out for Wile E. Coyote then

1
Slick | 27 September 2011 - 2:43pm

It's either unreasonable expectations or...

...a paean to gender reassignment. I speak, of course, of Alvin Lee's 'Love Like A Man':

You rolypoly
All over town
But you come on back to me
When things are down
Love like a man
Love all you can

Your satisfaction
Is growing less
If you come on back to me
Use my address and let you
Love like a man
Love all you can

You are the woman
You can't deny
You look so good to me, girl
You make me high

I'll tell you something
I think you know
When you flash those eyes at me
ALL SYSTEMS GO AND LET YOU
Love like a man
Love all you can

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Colin H | 27 September 2011 - 2:52pm

Prince's cousin

first tried reefer in September.

Surrounded no doubt by pushers and junkies, his avoiding horse for an entire nine months is frankly a bit far fetched.

I suspect he was doing horse much earlier, and that Prince used poetic licence in order to achieve a nice rhyme with 'moon'.

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tkdmart | 27 September 2011 - 3:00pm

Joking aside...

I think this song [Sign O' The Times] is really brilliant, and in particular the verse you're talking about. The lines in full are:

Little sister killed her baby cos she couldn't afford to feed it
Yet we're sending people to the moon
September my cousin tried reefer for the very first time
Now he's doing horse - it's June

It points out some bitter ironies succinctly, without getting too sanctimonious about it; AND smuggles in a moon/June rhyme which is not only subversive in the context of such a desolate song, but is also, I'm convinced, a nod to one of his idols, Joni Mitchell, who had done something similar in her utterly transcendent song Refuge Of The Roads:

In a highway station, over the month of June
Was a photograph of the Earth taken coming back from the moon.

He knew what he was about, that Prince.

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Rosbif | 29 September 2011 - 12:45pm

their idea of fun

not a factual inaccuracy but the bit in that song where he says

"at home there are 17 year-old boys
and their idea of fun is being in a gang called the disciples
high on crack and totin' a machine gun "

Well, forgive me for saying so, but I'm a lot older than 17 and I think that DOES actually sound like quite a lot of fun!!
You've got the feeling of belonging that comes with being in a gang, you're off your tits on crack and as if that wasn't enough fun already, you've also got a machine gun.

What's not fun about that?

1
Tindersticks | 29 September 2011 - 11:28pm

Machine gun

Strictly speaking, even gangs in the US don't have access to machine guns. Sub-machine guns, pistols and assault rifles, sure. But not these things:

0
Kjell | 30 September 2011 - 10:15am

To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee...

"You call that a machine gun? THIS is a machine gun!"

1
stimpy | 30 September 2011 - 10:30am

... which raises another issue.

Is that strictly toting?

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tkdmart | 30 September 2011 - 11:34am

mine is bigger

Your minigun fires a whole lot of 7.62mm ammunition. The Browning M2 fires .50 caliber rounds. Which are much, much bigger.

http://www.stealthstudios.co.uk/catman/50cal/bullets1.jpg

That is to .50 on the far left, with the 7.62 next to it.

Edit: hotlinking wasn't popular. Checking the link will show you the smallness of the 7.62 mm bullets..

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Kjell | 30 September 2011 - 6:55pm

Even better, then.. A GAU-19/a

A .50 cal rotary machine-gun. A rather terrifying prospect.

0
Lenny Law | 1 October 2011 - 6:54pm

Almost

That is of course pretty big.

But if you are going to go big. Go BIG.

The GAU-8, which the Americans put a pilot on top of, mounted a couple of wings and engines to, and called A-10 Thunderbolt II.

I don't think the crips in South Central are toting these:

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Kjell | 3 October 2011 - 4:22pm

Ah yes, but..

The GAU-8 fires 30mm explosive shells and is, hence, classified as a cannon and not a machine gun.

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Lenny Law | 3 October 2011 - 10:35pm

You say tomato..

The GAU-8 just fires bigger bullets.

As we are in a pedantic mood: 1) The GAU-8 is capable of firing different types of ammunition. Not all of it high explosive. 2) The little GAU-19 is also capable of firing high explosive ammunition.

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Kjell | 4 October 2011 - 1:57pm

Joking aside...

All good points well made Rosbeef. I feel like a naughty schoolboy now.

But, back to the game -

"We're sending people to the moon"

If I'm not mistaken, Apollo 17, the last manned mission to the moon, was in 1972. A full fifteen years before the release of Sign o' The Times.

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tkdmart | 30 September 2011 - 12:02am

Actually, the more I think about it

this song is riddled with inaccuracies.

It's silly, no?
When a rocket ship explodes
And everybody still wants 2 fly

Without breaking sweat I can think of three people who don't.
1. My Auntie
2. A chap I sat next to on my last snowboarding trip who nearly shat himself
3. B A Baracus

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tkdmart | 30 September 2011 - 11:56am

You can add Dennis Bergkamp

You can add Dennis Bergkamp to that list too, no doubt.

Mind you, I'm not sure I'd fancy flying in a rocket ship either. A commercial airliner, now that's a different matter altogether.

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yorkio | 30 September 2011 - 12:27pm

"Did you ever see a woman

Coming out of New York City
With a frog in her hand
I did don`t you know "

Now - it's not that this is impossible, I just don't believe Mr Bolan on this ocassion.

Even if it was true - how could I know until he told me (unless I was there, which I wasn't) ?

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Slick | 27 September 2011 - 3:07pm

I've seen a werewolf with a chinese menu in his hand

Yours sincerely

Warren

ps He was looking for a place called Lee Ho Fooks

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Steerpike | 29 September 2011 - 9:19pm

I went to see a musical based on the life of Marc Bolan

tonight and, frankly, the subtitles displayed on the electronic screen provided for the hard of hearing didn't do any favours to Mr. Bolan's lyrical oeuvre.

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skirky | 29 September 2011 - 11:45pm

He also said

a rolls royce was good for his voice. He's a born liar that one

1
DogFacedBoy | 27 September 2011 - 3:20pm

He also claimed:

"I danced myself right out of the womb"

Oh, come ON now. I don't buy that for one moment.

1
duco01 | 27 September 2011 - 3:43pm

Waterloo

My my, at Waterloo Napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Did they expect a different ending each time they read the book?

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Baskerville Old Face | 27 September 2011 - 3:31pm

Not even that similar

don't recall Abba being exiled to the island of Elba.

0
Slick | 27 September 2011 - 3:55pm

Haven't you ever seen the palindrome?

Able was Abba ere Abba saw Elba

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Gatz | 27 September 2011 - 3:57pm

Abbas first ever gig was at

Abbas first ever gig was at the Stockholm Palindrome

4
seanioio | 29 September 2011 - 4:35pm

Napoleon of course

didn't actually surrender at Waterloo, but gave himself up about a month later.

And are Agnetha and Frida really suggesting that they were defeated in battle by the combined actions of British and Prussian forces?

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Humphrey Plugg | 27 September 2011 - 4:30pm

Surely not their fate

Facing the British and Dutch to the front, then late in the day being threatened by a flanking move by the Prussians that would have inevitabally seen them taken defenclessly in the rear ?

That did not happen to ABBA.

1
Slick | 27 September 2011 - 5:19pm

But...

...perhaps Agnetha had been taken defencelessly...what? Oh, sorry, as you were.

0
Richie B | 29 September 2011 - 5:36pm

Perhaps

if Agnetha had shown off her rear, the surrender may have been the other way round.

1
Black Type | 1 October 2011 - 10:05am

Wise words

(Long pause while FG stares vacantly out of the window incapable of coherent thought)

Anyway moving swiftly on, after Waterloo 1815 he surrendered to the Brits - albeit not on the battlefield - but only a week later.

Then he was exiled to St Helena and not, as so many people still think,St Helens.

He has been exiled to Elba in 1814 after surrendering to the invading Allied armies. Elba is a Florentine island just off the coast of Italy and clearly after a half year or so he literally thought "f*** this for a game of soldiers" and hopped onto a boat to Southern France.

Then the Allies had to beat him all over again.

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FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 3:48pm

Sade

"Coast to coast, LA to Chicago ..."

Um.

2
dai | 27 September 2011 - 4:19pm

Western Mail...

she wrote it in Cardiff, apparently.

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milkybarnick | 27 September 2011 - 4:27pm

I've always heard ..

Western Maine

also not quite on the coast.

0
Declan | 29 September 2011 - 1:27pm

And

Chicago isn't on the coast.

0
Twangothan | 27 September 2011 - 4:42pm

But it is the Eastern end of Route 66

which, of course, runs to LA. Maybe Ms. Adu was confused.

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stimpy | 27 September 2011 - 6:01pm

Kim Wilde's wave

also lost the will to make it all the way across country.

"New York to East California, there's a new wave comin' I warn ya'"

Quite why the wave would stop at East California rather than proceed to West California and the Pacific Ocean is unclear.

Maybe it stopped off in Vegas for a night and did its bollocks on the slot machines.

5
titmus | 27 September 2011 - 6:31pm

Me and Bobbie McGee

Kris tells us he was "busted flat in Baton Rouge, waiting for a train". Clearly not busted completely flat then, as he had a train fare. Anyway, happily Bobbie thumbs a diesel down who takes them all the way to New Orleans. Now, Baton Rouge to New Orleans is about 80 miles, maybe an hour and a half's drive. Reasonable journey, yes, but it's hardly transcontinental, is it Kris? Does it really justify a whole verse to itself, you slacker? You could cycle it easily in a morning, or walk it in a couple of days. Get a grip man.

As you might expect Bobbie gets fed up of him and he "lets her slip away"....I mean, given he is now so gutted he would trade all his tomorrows for a single yesterday" he might have made a bit more effort. Frankly she sounds pretty flaky too, mind, as she's searching for a home and he hopes she finds it (NB not "one") which suggests she can't actually remember where she lives. Which is maybe why she hung around for so long with an obvious underachieving stoner who calls a harmonica a "harpoon" FFS.

2
Twangothan | 27 September 2011 - 4:25pm

80 miles?

So if they were able to "sing off every song that driver knew" as stated, and allowing for four minutes per song, then the musical knowledge of your average Southern truckin' man extends to... less than 20 songs?

Also, if you're going from "the coalmines of Kentucky to the California sun'... why the hell are you heading west out of Baton Rouge?

(By the way, until today I thought the 'busted flat' reference meant they had a punctured tyre, so I may not be an authority on all this.)

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Captain Underpants | 27 September 2011 - 5:58pm

Indeed

And when you think about it, the 20 songs are all pretty samey given they are all the same tempo with the windscreen wipers slappin' time. Pretty slow too, unless the wipers were on high speed. Lets assume around 60 BPM. Must have been a long hour and a half.

1
Twangothan | 27 September 2011 - 6:10pm

Maybe

It was raining heavily, the wipers were on full tonk, and they were listening to speed metal? Some of those songs are less than a minute long.

Throws all your maths out altogether

1
FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 3:50pm

Or maybe Hi NRG

Which brings the sexuality of the protagonists into sharp relief

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FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 3:51pm

Uberpedant alert

Maybe he was about to partake in the time honored tradition of train hopping as opposed to actually paying for his fare?

1
sitheref2409 | 27 September 2011 - 6:41pm

Cruelty whilst travelling

Not quite in the spirit of the thread.

However in Roll Me Away, Bob Seger sings:

We rolled across the high plains
Deep into the mountains
Felt so good to me
Finally feelin' free
Somewhere along a high road
The air began to turn cold
She said she missed her home
I headed on alone

So Bob, having picked up this woman in a bar, driven her out into the heart of America drops her, not just in the middle of nowhere, but at high altitude just because she felt a bit homesick.

One wonders if the police ever did an investigation into bodies of young women found frozen to death on mountain roads.

1
Carl Parker | 28 September 2011 - 6:27pm

All that, and also

How did they get from the cave onto the high road? A sort of vertical chimney type climb I imagine. Tricky, even for an expert climber. I can see why he wanted to do not since being deep in a cave in a mountain is hardly being fee, but the poor girl may well have felt that dinner and a movie would have done nicely.

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Twangothan | 28 September 2011 - 11:15pm

The Beatles? Who'd have thought?

'Eight Days A Week'?
'A Hard Day's Night'?

Einstein disproved...bang up to date!

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southstokie | 27 September 2011 - 4:40pm

Midnight At The Oasis

Midnight at the oasis
Send your camel to bed
Shadows paintin' our faces
Traces of romance in our heads

Maria Muldaur clearly has a strict bedtime regimen where pack animals are obliged to turn in at the stroke of midnight. I wonder how big a bed she actually has and whether the camels are expected to hump the thing from oasis to oasis.

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Baskerville Old Face | 27 September 2011 - 4:42pm

This one doesn't have a leg to stand on...

Knees up Mother Brown
Knees up Mother Brown
Under the table you must go
Ee-aye, Ee-aye, Ee-aye-oh
If I catch you bending
I'll saw your legs right off
Knees up, knees up
Never get the breeze up
Knees up Mother Brown

Dancing's off then...forever!

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Baskerville Old Face | 27 September 2011 - 4:46pm

"Kisses sweeter than wine"

Be specific. If you're talking about something with next-to-no residual fermentable sugar than the said kisses won't necessarily be particularly sweet. If, however, the writer refers to a dessert wine then, yes, he has a point. Arguably the sweetest and stickiest is the German eiswein, made with frost-blasted botyrised raisins and which tastes like maple syrup. "Kisses sweeter than eiswein" almost works in the song if you say it quickly.

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Lenny Law | 27 September 2011 - 4:55pm

Another one from Madness

Cardiac Arrest: "like a big American car, but misspelt with a 'd'"

Maybe I'm going for the obvious one, but that's "misspelt with an 'r' and no 'l's"

But maybe there's a big American car, that I don't know about, called a 'CarXiac' where 'X' is any letter which is not 'd'.

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PeteWingrave | 27 September 2011 - 5:21pm

Lazy? Or broken alarm clock?

Ace of Base have always confused me:

"She wakes up late in the morning light
And the day has just begun"

What time is the alarm-clock usually set for if crack of dawn is waking up late? What does this girl do? It can't be night work because next we are told that she decides to bunk off work and go to the beach to get a tan and pick up a boy. Just like that! We don't even know if she's phoned her boss!

And then they sing "All that she wants is another baby" Another? Where are any previous babies? This is getting more worrying by the moment.

So, in short, we have a girl who works odd hours, bunks off work, picks up casual sex on the beach, doesn't practice safe sex and is rather careless with her children.

I don't like it, I don't like it all...

5
Em | 27 September 2011 - 7:17pm

Also

no mention of any childcare arrangements.

She does not sound like a yummy-mummy.

0
Slick | 27 September 2011 - 7:44pm

Mairsie

Dotes
And dozydotes
And liddlamseetyvie
A kiddleetyvietoo
Wooden chew

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policybloke1 | 27 September 2011 - 7:39pm

which bit is wrong?

Mares do eat oats.

Does, they eat oats too.

Little lambs - do they eat ivy ?

I would be sick if I ate ivy, and I suspect you would be as well.

0
Slick | 27 September 2011 - 7:45pm

"Relax!

Don't do it when you wanna come." Yeah, right Holly that may well work for you old son.

0
Dave Amitri | 27 September 2011 - 8:11pm

'Fun...

...is the one thing that money can't buy' sang the Beatles in She's Leaving Home.

So why did they write a song saying that 'Money can't buy me love'? That's two things.

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Inky Fingers | 27 September 2011 - 10:09pm

It may be for charidee

But the suggestion that there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas is not correct - have Bob and Midge never seen Kilimanjaro?

0
Humphrey Plugg | 27 September 2011 - 9:58pm

What?

As it rises like Olympus above the Serengeti?

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Trevor_Raggatt | 27 September 2011 - 10:17pm

1952 Vincent Black Lightning

"oh he reached for her hand and he slipped her the keys
Said I've got no further use for these"

Well quite, as that particular model didn't require keys to start it.

I have not taken Mr Thompson's output at face value ever since.

1
Lando Cakes | 27 September 2011 - 10:27pm

Perhaps the keys were to some form of

anti-theft chain device looped through the bike's wheels, to stop discerning thieves getting away with a 1952 Vincent Black Lightning?

3
duco01 | 28 September 2011 - 8:39am

Maybe it was stored in a locked garage

or some sort of shed?

1
stimpy | 28 September 2011 - 10:33am

Also

I'd be amazed if she could start the bastard without breaking her shinbone OR make it stop in the wet OR make it go round a corner in any weather. Plus - no indicators so modern drivers will just run her off the road without a second glance.

He might as well have handed her a hand grenade with the pin out

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FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 3:56pm

This did come up on the Q&A section on RT's website

and he explained that there was originally a section of the song that that dealt with the modifications made to the motorcycle and to ensuring that the insurance documents were valid and that the MOT certificate was up to date before the ownership paperwork was signed and handed over, but that he omitted this extra verse for the sake of brevity in the final recorded version.

2
skirky | 29 September 2011 - 4:18pm

Is it sad

To say that sounds great?

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Lando Cakes | 29 September 2011 - 7:52pm

slight return to the OP in the interests of fairness

"It was made in ’59/ in a factory by the Tyne”

I thought it was "...in a factory of the time"

And would the car have had "Morris on the door"? Morris on the back and maybe the front, perhaps, but not on the door.

0
Austin | 28 September 2011 - 11:37am

Black Lace - Superman

Verse one couldn't be clearer

Clap your hands
Now you're looking really good
Now you've got the hang of it
We're gonna do it one more time

They then proceed to do it several more times.

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tkdmart | 28 September 2011 - 12:34pm

Brilliant

...

0
Stuart Graham | 28 September 2011 - 4:40pm

Scott Mckenzie

"If you're going to San Francisco,
you're going to meet some gentle people there."

If not inaccurate - a very sweeping statement. I went there in 1998 and some swine tried to break into my hire car.

5
Mac45 | 28 September 2011 - 4:58pm

Indeed

I wandered one street in the wrong direction and a very large chap who assured me he hangs out there to help people back to the main drag and ensure nothing happens to them relieved me of the $20 he reliably assured me people usually pay for his services. Bargain!

1
Twangothan | 29 September 2011 - 4:06pm

Well, guys

...on reflection, perhaps putting those flowers in your hair was a mistake after all.

1
Black Type | 1 October 2011 - 10:11am

Dawn

'Knock Three Times'

Hey girl whatcha doin down there
Dancing alone every nite while I live right above you
I can hear your music playin'
I can feel your body swayin'
One floor below me you don't even know me
I love you

Oh my darlin
Knock three times on the ceiling if you want me
Twice on the pipe if the answer is no
Oh my sweetness
Means you'll meet me in the hallway
Twice on the pipe means you ain't gonna show

He's never met her, so how is she going to get his message? In any event, she has clearly not appeared at all to date, so the probability exists that she will remain ignorant of his interest, let alone his instructions to bang all over the house (!). And how can he feel her body swaying through a floor?

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Baskerville Old Face | 28 September 2011 - 5:14pm

Maybe there are structural issues?

These are common in older properties especially in timber framed houses, often seen in the USA. Maybe he is reluctant to get building/planning control involved - could he perhaps be the owner but reluctant to involve the authorities due to unlawful subletting thus giving him an undeclared income?

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FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 4:00pm

Coldplay get all old testament on your ass.

I am very fond of Violet Hill - Coldplay's emotionally bruised Blakean protest song. I particularly like the line "Bury me in armour when I'm dead and hit the ground my nerves are poles that unfroze." Pete Doherty might talk a good game about Albion but you just don't get that same quality of imagery from Babyshambles.

That being said I do think that Chris Martin rather lets himself down with: "Priests clutched onto bibles hollowed out to fit their rifles."

Either these are very long bibles or tiny, tiny guns. Even if the firearms in question are sniper rifles that can be disassembled and stored in a suitcase, the average-size bible would still be hard pressed to accommodate one.

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backwards7 | 28 September 2011 - 6:31pm

B52s - Love Shack

"I've got me a car, its as big as a whale"

Really? Is that a Blue Whale, A Black one, or some other variant? Please be clearer about your comparisons.

We are later informed:
"I've got me a Chrysler, it seats about 20"

So its a fairly small whale then. Also, I wasn't aware of Chrysler making a 20 Seat Vehicle. Unless its a huge limousine of some sort, possibly specially coach built (a 10 seat Chrysler limo, cut in half with another one welded in the middle - imagine the strain on the propshaft)

1
Rigid Digit | 28 September 2011 - 6:48pm

Counting Crows - Mr Jones

They're staring at all the pretty women.

One says: "she's looking at you"
The other says "uh, I don't think so, she's looking at me"

They're talking about the same person!

2
ThePint | 29 September 2011 - 3:22pm

I have never noticed that before...

.... it will now annoy me everytime I hear it.

Having said that - not as much as Adam Duritz does when performing this live. The melody he chooses to sing seems to follow what I can only assume is 'Jazz Odyssey' by Spinal Tap

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seanioio | 29 September 2011 - 3:31pm

Two things

1) You've misquoted the lyric which is

1st time:

"Stare at the beautiful women
'She's looking at you. Ah, no, no she's looking at me'"

2nd time:

"Stare at the beautiful women
'She's looking at you. Ah, I don't think so, she's looking at me'"

2) So there is nothing wrong with this lyric. The two guys are looking at women. Adam is disappointed then elated because the woman he thought was looking at Marty Jones is instead looking at him.

1
Carl Parker | 29 September 2011 - 6:33pm

Phew, I can listen to it

Phew, I can listen to it without the annoyance factor now then....

0
seanioio | 30 September 2011 - 9:53am

"When I was in England Town...

the rain fell right down", one of my favourite tracks from Love "She Comes In Colours, but that line always grates.

Yes Arthur, it does rain a lot over here but don't you mean London Town maybe, and if you did London's not really a Town you know...

0
Retro Man | 29 September 2011 - 4:13pm

Maybe he meant

England, Arkansas.

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PeteWingrave | 29 September 2011 - 6:55pm

Racing in the Street by Brooce

"Indeed, automotive enthusiasts have debated whether 1969 Chevrolet models could be ordered, customized, or built to the exact specifications given in the song of a 396-cubic-inch Chevrolet big-block engine with fuel injection and Hurst Performance transmission.[13]"

Wikipedia

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Steerpike | 29 September 2011 - 4:30pm

Squeezing out another one

(apologies for lyrical errors in this one but I am currently 987 miles away from my music:)

"This morning at 4:50
I took her rather nifty
Down to an incubator
Where thirty minutes later
She gave birth to a daughter
Within a year a walker"

So iis Squeeze's Up the Junction' all about time travel?

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daff | 29 September 2011 - 8:58pm

They may be using the

active present tense, often used in reporting or story telling to give a sense of immediateness and excitement.

Or perhaps, "On a morning just over a year ago,at 4.50, I took her rather nifty" just doesn't scan

0
Humphrey Plugg | 30 September 2011 - 11:24am

Plus

no woman has ever given birth to a child in an incubator.
It'd be a bloody tight fit. You'd have to be like this woman (video of contortionist, below).
I can't see the doctors recommending it:

1
drakeygirl | 1 October 2011 - 12:13pm

Squeezing out yet another time travelling wheeze

"I'm at the car park, the airport
The baggage carousel"

Time now appears to be behaving very strangely for Mr Difford. For me it's always airport, baggage carousel then car park, perhaps it should go car park, airport, check in, security, duty free, departure lounge, flight, airport, baggage carousel, passport control, car park. It doesn't scan as well but would be more accurate (presuming of course that a hire car has been used at at least one airport and there is no shuttle bus service to and from the terminal).

0
Neil Dyson | 4 October 2011 - 7:03am

My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)

I've always wondered at the lines 'This is the story of Johnny Rotten. It's better to burn out than it is to rust'

...would seem to fit the fate of Sid better than it does the butter promoting, jungle loving old fraud Lydon.

0
Steerpike | 29 September 2011 - 9:34pm

To be fair...

He does like the taste, I believe.

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Lando Cakes | 30 September 2011 - 12:03am

Dreams of Children

one that's always bugged me from The Jam.....

"I was alone
no-one was there
I was alone
no-one was there"

Well, Mr Weller sir, if you were alone, then it goes without saying that no-one was there because that's what alone means.

Still a great song though.

0
Tindersticks | 29 September 2011 - 11:36pm

Pronoun catastrophe

From The Jam's English Rose:

No matter where I go
I will return to my English rose
For nothing could ever keep me from she

I don't believe anyone, however poor their grasp of grammar, has ever heard that repeated horror without wanting to chuck the radio out of the window.

Still a hideous song though.

0
Gatz | 30 September 2011 - 10:05am

Cohen

Thank you for those items that you sent me
The monkey and the plywood violin
I practiced every night now I'm ready
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin.

1. Take major cities in the USA and Germany with a monkey and a cheap violin?
2. What was he practicing with the monkey?

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Glenbervie | 30 September 2011 - 12:20am

Eurovison Song Contest chiller from Bardo

In 1981, Bucks Fizz showed Europe's pop audience that you can be decisive about fancying someone, even playfully disrobe her - and get the girl. Nice and wholesome, no harm done. A winner!

In 1982, Bardo tackles the same issues but takes down a darker avenue of regret and bitterness :

"If you read my letters or my telegrams
You'd have got around to asking me just who I am
'Cause you know I'm gonna get ya
I'm gonna get ya, I'm gonna get ya"

And then...

"you could have turned around and hit me and I wouldn't have cared"

And then (worst of all)

"I could have tooken one step further"

An illiterate, dribbling rant from a violent, dangerous and masochistic stalker.

Still came 2nd though!

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Austin | 30 September 2011 - 5:46am

Chas n Dave's "Ain't No Pleasing You"

A past/present tense conundrum...

"Now everything, I ever done, was only done for you..."

Grr...suppose it works in Cockney

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Six Dog | 30 September 2011 - 1:26pm

But when the girl one

did that high kick you could see her knickers

It was 1982, we made our own entertainment

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DogFacedBoy | 1 October 2011 - 1:58pm

Soppy Romantic Songs

"You're Once, Twice, Three times a Lady" as sung by the Commodores - how did that happen? Did her parents name her 'Ladyladylady', was it some strange aristocratic entitlement, or did she have repeated gender reassignment surgery?

There's the love songs where the relationship is seemingly responsible for human respiration and without it, breathing would cease:

Jordin Sparks’ No Air
'If you ain't here I just can't breathe
There's no air, no air'

Toni Braxton Breathe Again
'If I never feel you in my arms again
If I never feel your tender kiss again
If I never hear I love you now and then
Will I never make love to you once again
Please understand if love ends
Then I promise you, I promise you
That, that I shall never breathe again
Breathe again
Breathe again
That I shall never breathe again
Breathe again'

That’s an awful lot of not breathing. She would probably pass out but would nevertheless go on breathing, it being more of an automatic function than a lifestyle choice.

Then there's Michael Bolton's 'I Said I Loved You...But I Lied':

'Said I loved you but I lied
'Cause this is more than love I feel inside
Said I loved you but I was wrong
'Cause love could never ever feel so strong
Said I loved you but I lied'

What's 'more than love'? Love must be pretty weak and sappy to him (also applies to his songs). Anyway, if he lied, that means he doesn't love her at all then?!

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Carolina | 30 September 2011 - 7:29pm

"You're Once, Twice, Three times a Lady"

Sounds like she's counting him out , or vice versa.(one-AH, two-AH, three-AH - as Mark E Smith would sing it)

Maybe she battered him with a vase because he came home without flowers?

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FakeGeordie | 15 March 2012 - 4:05pm

Mr Bowie

If you see a fire and wish to extinguish it then gasoline's probably not your best bet.

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Mr Fade | 1 October 2011 - 11:53am

and in the same song...

... he claims to have "stared for a thousand years", and in another of his he'll "stick with you baby for a thousand years". On a slightly more realistic note he did inform us that Major Tom was "past one hundred thousand miles".

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Formbyman | 1 October 2011 - 12:22pm

Ahem

If we're talking about creatures like vampires and such, it may indeed be that the life spans are potentially infinite. As to "putting out the fire with gasoline", surely this is a deliberate oxymoron - in other words he's been making a bad situation worse.

Not that I'm a Bowie apologist or anything...

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Rosbif | 1 October 2011 - 5:57pm

Was just having fun boss.

No harm meant. We're all Bowie apologists here, not that he needs it.

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Mr Fade | 1 October 2011 - 8:46pm

If it comes to it,

"See these eyes so green" is only half true. It's just a plethora of lies and deception. The bastard.

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Black Type | 1 October 2011 - 6:54pm

The final verse of "Rocket Man" by Elton John..

"Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids/In fact it’s cold as hell" (Isn't hell always imagined to be a fiery place)

"And there’s no one there to raise them if you did" (wouldnt he be there? How else would they get there. Why couldn't he raise them?)

"And all this science I don’t understand" (Surely all Astronauts must be educated in Physics to degree level at least?)

"It’s just my job five days a week" (If he is travelling from the Earth to Mars, I imagine this will take longer than 5 days. What would he do in his rocket on his 2 days off? Would he stop the rocket, mid-flight?)

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neilio | 2 October 2011 - 1:18pm

Uber pedant

You'll find most astronauts are NOT qualified in Physics, but things like engineering.
Neil Armstrong originally studied aerospace engineering, Aldrin in Mech Eng.
I'm not sure I remember a physicist in any of the first three astronaut programs

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sitheref2409 | 2 October 2011 - 5:35pm

I think you are right

Scientists - including Jack Schmitt - joined in group 4' if I remember rightly.

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Lando Cakes | 2 October 2011 - 7:58pm

Yesterday...

"I believe in yesterday".

Um. OK then.

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PhilOBrien | 3 October 2011 - 12:14pm

Not strictly inaccurate

Just very very unlikely to come to pass.

'I wanna wanna be a male model.
I wanna wanna be a male model.'

Thankyou for attending the audition, Mr Sharkey.

Next!

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thecheshirecat | 3 October 2011 - 5:22pm

I'm amazed that Pink Floyd fans

haven't posted this:

"We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control"

Clearly Mr Waters you do require some education, as you obviously don't understand the concept of the double negative. Suggesting in particular that there is a requirement for thought control in schools is a deeply worrying concept.

Or are you perhaps attempting to parody how you believe the "working class" speak, in which case the implication of your lyrics is that education is only for the elite in society? Your subsequent treatment of the children who sang backing vocals suggests this might be the case

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Humphrey Plugg | 4 October 2011 - 9:15am

When you're in love with a beautiful woman

You watch your friends

(why ? are they beautiful too ?)

No, no, it's because :

Everybody wants to take your baby home

(Only the case if all your male friends are heterosexual, and all your female friends are gay)

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Slick | 4 October 2011 - 4:49pm

I'm putting on my top hat

tying up my white tie, brushing off my tails.
I'm duding up my shirt front,
putting in shirt studs, polishing my nails.

Ah. No mention of trousers then? (c. Willie Rushton)

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Lando Cakes | 4 October 2011 - 8:20pm

The power of love?

Jennifer Rush sings

"The whispers in the morning
of lovers sleeping tight
are rolling by like thunder now
as I look in your eyes"

So, Jennifer, let me get this exactly right:

It's morning, you and your bloke as asleep, but you're whispering. You're whispering in your sleep, apparently. Quite loudly. So loudly, in fact, that it sounds as loud as thunder (though I suppose it could be distant thunder but you don't actually say so, do you?). And your eyes are open.

I think someone took too many "Imagery In Song Writing" evening classes...

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Em | 6 October 2011 - 7:20pm

Those Gallagher Boys.....

Champagne Supernova

"Slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball".

Now I've never witnessed a cannonball in full flow but, I would bet it's just a tad quicker than a leisurely strool down the hall!

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Gooner1050 | 6 October 2011 - 9:49pm

How did we get this far without mention of ....?

"Isn't it ironic?"

No, Alanis, it bloody isn't.

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thecheshirecat | 7 October 2011 - 8:14pm
Cookieboy | 7 October 2011 - 10:46pm

HJH "Day Tripper"

"She was a Day Tripper/One way ticket yeah!"

If you went on a "Day Trip", wouldn't it be more sensible to get a return ticket?

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neilio | 18 October 2011 - 8:15am

Lady Is A Tramp

Tramp?

Is she a Special Brew-sipping bag lady with a scabby dog on a piece of string, or a woman of loose morals. Which is it?

Nothing in the lyrics to Frank's famous song seems to provide a clear answer to this:

She gets too hungry, for dinner at eight
She loves the theater, but doesn't come late
She'd never bother, with people she'd hate
That's why the lady is a tramp

etc

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mojoworking | 18 October 2011 - 8:54am

Thread pedantry.

Really, this thread should be called "Pedantry About Factually Inaccurate Lyrics", rather than "Factually Inaccurate Lyrical Pedantry". The latter means that the pedantry itself is factually inaccurate, rather than the lyrics.

No wait, come back...

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Bob | 18 October 2011 - 9:16am

Should that not be "lyric", singular..

..rather than "lyrics", plural?

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Lenny Law | 18 October 2011 - 12:10pm

Oh, shut up.

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Bob | 18 October 2011 - 12:12pm

David Bowie

"Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats"

That's from Future Legend, the opening track on Diamond Dogs

Even allowing for poetic license, that's a bit over the top, isn't it?

If the fleas really were the size of rats, then you'd only get 4 or 5 of them per cat, which is hard to believe. Especially when a real cat can play host to 100s of fleas.

Come on Mr. Bowie, if you're going to make wild zoological references in your songs, try and make them more accurate in terms of scale in future!

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mojoworking | 15 March 2012 - 12:12pm

Good point

In order to keep to realistic flea:rat:cat proportions, the cats would have to be the size of Wales.

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Captain Underpants | 15 March 2012 - 1:03pm

and how big

would the diamonds be in the dogs?

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DogFacedBoy | 15 March 2012 - 2:32pm

The dog's bollocks

how big must they be?

Keeping to scale and working on Capt Underpants's estimate above, the canine wedding tackle must weigh in at the size of a small Japanese car.

No wonder Guy Peellaert airbushed them out for the final version of the LP sleeve.

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mojoworking | 16 March 2012 - 2:38am

Blue

or sperm?

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Black Type | 15 March 2012 - 10:27pm

Terry Jacks

You're all familiar with the 'classic' Seasons in the Sun. Specifically the lyric

... and every time that I was down you would always come around
and get my feet back on the ground.

Maybe it's just me but if someone helps you 'put your feet back on the ground' well to me that impies you're up, not down. Am I wrong ?

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z1000jeff | 15 March 2012 - 12:56pm

He may

have been stuck in a well, or down a mineshaft. You just never know.

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Black Type | 15 March 2012 - 10:29pm
Lenny Law | 15 March 2012 - 11:59pm

I think he means down in a depressed kind of way

So I visualise Terry lying in bed, feeling down.
Then the other person comes, cheers him up, and he gets out of bed.

It's a barrel of laughs that song, isn't it?

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Austin | 16 March 2012 - 2:18am

It's the Belgians

they eat chips with mayonnaise, so it's not surprising they do some strange physical things too.

(On a slightly serious note, "Seasons In The Sun" is a terrible translation of "Le Moribond" - which actually is quite funny in a very black and sarcastic way)

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Humphrey Plugg | 16 March 2012 - 5:36pm

Bob Dylan again

"With the stitches still mending beneath a heart-shaped tattoo". So sings Dylan in Changing Of The Guards from Street Legal.

Stitches? I don't know where Bob gets his ink done, but if he needs a surgical suture afterwards, perhaps he needs to find a more gentle and/or compassionate tattoo artist!

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mojoworking | 13 April 2012 - 5:01am

a punctured bicycle...

... on a hillside desolate
Bicycle tyre surely?

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Glenbervie | 13 April 2012 - 6:18am

Beatles in earthworm mixup

“The eagle pecks my eye, the worm he licks my bones” sings John Lennon in Yer Blues from the Beatles’ so-called White Album.

The common earthworm or Lumbricus terrestris has a rudimentary mouthpiece and sucks its food in with a muscular pharynx. More importantly, it has no tongue and so can't actually lick anything.

Mr Lennon may have known all about lounging around in bed for weeks on end with his weird Japanese girlfriend, but it seems his knowledge of worms (or Oligochaetology to use the correct term) was sadly lacking.

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mojoworking | 14 April 2012 - 3:40am

except

that worm was archaically often used interchangeably for snake (which do have tongues), and the conflict between the eagle (representing spirituality) and the serpent (representing earthly desires or carnality)is a well recognised image in mythology and literature. So what these lines really mean is:

"The eagle pecks my eye" = I'm feeling a bit guilty about not going off to all those transcendental meditation classes with George

"The worm he licks my bones" = on the other hand, I'd sooner have sex with Yoko

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Humphrey Plugg | 16 April 2012 - 10:18am

Excellent

My brain feels bigger after reading that.

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STD | 16 April 2012 - 6:06pm
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