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Extraordinary Festival Rudeness Examples
Posted by goatboyuk69 on 27 July 2010 - 11:31pm.
From the Wickerman Festival last weekend.
I returned to my tent to find that the guy ropes, which were holding the thing up, had all been pulled out. I grumpily stomped around putting them back in lest a whiff of a wind reduce my temporary home to a puddle of nylon. The woman in the tent next door enlightened me.
"Alright mate. I pulled those ropes out. The kids were tripping over them"
Eh, I mean what?, Excuse me? can you exp... Eh?.
Any other tales of festival woe?
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Possibly should be retitled
"Extraordinary Festival Stupidity Examples" because that's also an unbelievably stupid thing to do. And selfish. Just... wow.
Pretty much exactly what I was going to say...
... and as I get older, I'm finding more and more that it's categorically impossible to underestimate people's tendencies towards stupidity and selfishness...
Society in general...
... is much more selfish these days. I blame Thatcher.
Politest crime of the last century.
Very foolishly I left a £1 note in the back pocket of a pair of jeans at Knebworth.On returning to my tent I found It replaced with a 50p coin and a note apologising for It's theft and explaining that the thief had found himself/herself in dire need at the time but subsequently had discovered that they did not need the full £1 and had returned to leave me the change and to say sorry.
Not as extraordinary as the guy ropes incident...
(The kids were tripping over them indeed. Why do some parents think the work revolves around their offspring? And why should we suffer for their kids stupidity?)
... but the last time I was at Glastonbury it was one of the miserable flooded ones. As Mrs Ganglesprocket couldn't get time off work until the Friday we found ourselves camped about a mile from anywhere. Just getting to any event at all involved an exhausting trudge through extremely sticky mud, which prevented much sitting down. My memory is of being extremely tired all the time.
We were in a tea tent and lo and behold two seats were available. I grabbed them and my GLW went to buy some tea. As I sat there a fuckwit in a pirate costume came up to me;
"Is this seat taken?"
"Yes, I'm sorry it is. My wife is just buying us some tea."
Away he went with the seat.
"Oi! OI! I said that seat is taken."
"There's no one sitting there man. Chill out, this is Glastonbury"
By this point I was quivering with rage. In my most angry sounding Glasweigan tones I yelled something along the lines of:
"IF YOU DONT PUT THAT F&*£ING SEAT BACK DOWN I WILL F&*£ING KILL YOU, YOU B@STARD"
Fuckwit in a pirate costume "Chill out man, have your seat, come on be reasonable, this is Glastonbury. By the way I'm traveling to South America in a few weeks to take part in direct action to protect the rainforest. Do you fancy making a donation?"
That was the last time I went to Glastonbury. It was the floods rather than idiots dressed as pirates which did it for me though.
in some senses i'm with the pirate on this one ...
i've lost count of the number of times i've headed into Starbucks in central Edinburgh for example, it's been busy but not too bad, ordered a coffee, waited to collect it, then found that 16 people have come in after me, in eight neat pairs, and while eight individuals are standing behind me in the queue, their eight chums/spouses/sig oths have bagged every last remaining seat in the place ... one day as i miserably trudged the aisles looking for somewhere to park my behind ("no i'm sorry my husband's sitting here, well he will be, although we arrived after you he's in the queue buying me a low fat water, we're a couple, you're single scum and you don't deserve to live, plainly, even though you were here first, now go to Burger King or something...") i spotted a table for two with *only one of the chairs with a jacket and no one sitting there* ... chummy eventually came back with a hazelballistic intercontinental mocha or something and for the next 20 minutes i very much enjoyed watching him look screamingly uncomfortable ...
er, okay, in this particular instance the Glasto-pirate analogy isn't precisely equivalent but i just wanted to get that off my chest
/regular Americano with an extra shot, thanks
It was the costume, rudeness and then asking for money...
...which did for me.
The awful conditions didn't help. Perhaps I was the rude one in this sorry tale...
If you need to "defend"
a spare couple of seats at a festival or may be on a train. You could try the Derren Brown tactic. Don't stretch out or adorn the seats with a bag or a coat simply as someone expectantly approaches look them in the eye, smile and pat the seat next to you. You could even try a wink. Guaranteed to have the place to yourself!
I'd have been tempted to extend the angry Glaswegian riff:
Donation? Will I FUCK. BOLLOCKS to the rainforest. After this festival I'm off home to rearrange the MASSIVE COLLECTION OF MAHOGANY GARDEN FURNITURE I JUST BOUGHT, and them I'm going to invest my pension in a DODGY SOUTH AMERICAN LOGGING COMPANY! Now go play with your sticks, ass-wipe.
When in doubt, go nuclear.
Glasgow Comedy Festival
at comedy gig in a function room behind a pub, a girl told me she was keeping an entire row of seats for her pals, and they'd be there in a minute. The only other seats left at this point were right beside the entrance. Once the gig had started we had to put up with a stream of latecomers opening a door in our faces and walking past to get to the seats we'd been denied. Never again.
There was this Irish band...
.. said they'd come and play a few tunes for us on Friday night and then didn't show.
well my friend went to have her picture taken
with a well known punk poet and this guy took all his clothes off.
For proper rudeness try an Opera Festival
Buxton to be precise.
I was over there last week to attend one of the literature talks that run alongside the Opera and stopped for a coffee at the small stand in the Pavillion Gardens.
First example was a fat man in the queue who was belittling the young girl on the counter who couldn't make a sandwich to his specific requirement as they were all pre made pannini.Regret not telling him to shut up.
Collected coffee, went out into the garden and all the tables were occupied by singles or couples. Each of the tables are substantial with 5 or 6 chairs. Anyway I asked one woman if she minded if I shared the table, her answer was that she did.
So I tried another table, not adjacent to hers and asked the same of a bored looking man on his own who gave every appearance of being about to leave. He replied "if you really must". I sat down, left him in peace and 2-3 minutes later he jumped up with his half full coffee cup to move to another table that had just become available!.
All this happened in less than 10 minutes, more ill manners and selfishness than I saw in four days at Latitude.
Non-Plussed.
I just don't understand the lack of human kindness or basic good manners that some people seem to have no problem demonstrating to their fellows.
They should instead have considered themselves blessed that of all the people present you had selected them as worthy of your company.You would be very welcome to sit with me,anytime,anyplace,anywhere,my friend.
Chill man,
it's Buxton.
Wrong tactic
Perhaps the clue is in the fact that the people you asked were sitting alone in the first place. Solitude seems to breed rudeness, and vice versa. You should have gone to a table with a couple sitting at it.
and asked them if they were interested in dogging
... table to yourself guaranteed
The bastards....
who shove their way to the front of a stage and then erect a bloody great flag to wave. Thus pissing off several thousand people behind them all at the same time.
Those are people for whom
the world invented the plastic quart lemonade flagon full of piss.
There have always been twats at festivals...
Rolling Stone magazine sent a reporter to the Woodstock festival to try to establish whether hippies were changing the world or simply lying around off their tits in a sea of filth.
The reporter came across a young family outside a teepee. The gentleman of this hippie coven explained at some length that he and his hairy brethren were out to change society from top to bottom and establish a new code of living. He went on to complain bitterly that they weren't just dropouts with a tenuous grip on reality, at which point his children started trying to collapse the teepee. "Bilbo! Frodo! Stop messing about!" was their father's stern response...
Americana American't
Not quite a ‘festival’ but I was up in Newcastle last Saturday, having stayed over after seeing the Pet Shop Boys the previous night – and thought I’d take myself over the free stage outside The Sage for their annual Americana Festival.
The number of people who were there seemingly just to sit in a circle and natter amongst themselves while the acts were on stage was annoying. Many were up and down on a constant wander to and from the bar, and one group arrived with a large dog that just about trampled over one couples picnic.
I left after an hour – couldn’t find a decent spot to just sit and listen to the music, as those who have seemingly have no interest in the music always seem to arrive an hour ahead and find the best spots.
Edinburgh Festival
okay, it's not a music festival but particularly at Fringe venues and especially where there are big temporary bars (Pleasance Courtyard, prime example), ladies from "somewhere down south" whose husbands generally look after the business of wine waiters and sauvignon blanc suddenly have to deal with the apparently random scrum around a bar ... which is, of course, not random at all
they have nae idea and seem to think that being blonde, carrying a twenty quid note and shouting "barman, barman" is the way to go ... no sense of personal space, no sense of who arrived when, where other people are standing, making a mental picture of the actual queue in their head, relating it to the speed of service from barstaff etc ... clueless, and rude ... it would be like me marching into their kitchens and switching off the Archers just before the bit where everyone finds out that Kenton really did shag Kirsty ...
Whaaat!
Kenton shagged Kirsty! Say it ain't so!
Who can blame him?
That Kathy is a joyless old sow, isn't she?
the thing that's even worse than rude people at festivals...
... is folk making stuff up about the Archers, for instance ;-)
but yes, you're right ... Kenton actually enjoys something for a change and she gets sniffy because it punctures her comfortable little world ...
Re:goatboyuk
Outrageous behaviour, presumably their tent wasn't very well secured to the ground?
When I was setting up at Glastonbury this year, I saw a full tent blow high across the campsite like it was a kite! A first.
A full tent?
Must have been a hell of a ride for the people inside.
Sounds like The Wizard of Oz
On a budget.
My one and only festival visit continues to be Reading, 2008, and I came to the conclusion that festivals would be great if they didn't let so many teenagers in. Most of them seemingly thought it was one massive holiday camp, and that the absence of parents/guardians + being a long way from home + alcohol = reasons to act like a dick for three days. Most of them had probably just finished their exams.
It also reminded me as to why I never stand near the front of a stage either, as there were times these morons thought it would be hilarious to barge people out of the way as they jumped up and down in the 'moshpits' resulting in a fair few pushes and shoves. When I watch a band, I don't want to be bothered by Gary, Grunt and Gobshite and their ignorance of the people around them.
Teenagers who go to festivals, are the same teenagers you see in HMV crowded 'round the poster racks in groups of six.
At the risk of bucking the general consensus here...
...as a pretty regular festival-goer, my understanding was/is that proper festival etiquette is to, where possible, pitch your tent using the minimum amount of guy ropeage you can get away with. Obviously this depends on the type of tent you have and the weather conditions (some are ok with this approach, others absolutely need to be fully roped to stand up straight).
This is not really for the benefit of little kids, more a self-defence technique to stop random passers-by (who may be challenged by the dark, the drink or the drugs) from tripping over your guy ropes (and falling over your tent) on their way home between tents that will inevitably be pitched too close together.
But the lady next door should have talked to you about this before unilaterally unpegging your guys!
I'm fully aware of festival etiqutte
I've been to dozens. My guy ropes weren't impeding their tent in any way. Her issue seemed to be that my existence was preventing her little amoebas doing whatever the fuck they wanted.
The stupid bitch should camp in a fucking creche.
In which case
You were perfectly within your rights to use any spare pegs and ropes to peg the little buggers out.
And their mother.
They won't have to worry about tripping over your guy ropes then.
i refer the court to my previous statement
spotty twots pissing in plastic pint pots and then lobbing said item as far forward as they can into the festival crowd ( and then bravely hiding behind their mates). My immediate & niave thought was "with queues for the bars that long why would anyone waste lager by throwing it".
"Why I oughta etc etc"
One day, I'll brave a festival.
Maybe Latitude next year. I'm storing up a little list of "don'ts".
Yin/Yang: Edinburgh Festival of a decade or so back
Venue: Pleasance Courtyard. Busy for all of August, but one does not forget basic courtesy if one is not an arsehole.
Two minor celeb encounters ensue.
Best: Jenny Eclair
"Excuse me, is that seat taken?". [Apologetic smile] I'm afraid it is, yes, sorry. "Oh, okay, thanks." [Big beaming smile anyway as she moves off]. We have only engaged as human beings for about three seconds but it was exemplary interaction.
Worst: David Fucking Strassman
Who sat in my bench seat facing the other way to talk to *his* mates, or schmooze to some media whore, or some such thing, while I had nipped to the toilet. Completely ignored all attempts of my mates to point this out. Completely ignored *me* when I tried to sit back there again. Completely ignored me when I sat down anyway and side-bombed him, trying to knock the twat off *my* seat like a badly-moustached skittle. I think he did piss off eventually, leaving me in no doubt that making my life's work that of destroying his career would be a valid use of whatever days I may have left to me. I still, to this day, bristle at any (rare, and increasingly so) mention of the man's name.
I've never been all that arsed about Jenny Eclair's act, but her manners and personability were absolutely beyond reproach. There may have been a bit of PR in there, but there's no harm in that. Whereas you may not even know who David Fucking Strassman is (he's an American ventriloquist) which I would posit speaks volumes in itself.
D x
UnPleasance...
It would have been tempting to intimate that he would be welcome to a seat, provided he bought you a drink - something easy for him to order, like a gottle of geer.
Another tent pegs incident
I've just got back from Camp Bestival, and it was mostly wonderful.
The only un-wonderful bit was my tent neighbours.
First night, 4am, I was woken up by our neighbours staggering home drunk and bellowing at each other. Now, I happily accept that noise is part and parcel of the festival experience, but this was a bit much... they were actually shouting at each other. And as I said, this was at 4am and the rest of the campsite was quiet. They were loud enough to wake the four of us up.
Thinking that they'd settle down soon, I lay there. And lay there.
After 20 minutes of bellowing, I'd had enough, popped on my wellies and popped round to their tent to have a friendly word.
"Hi!" I said smilingly. "Please could you keep your voices down a bit? It's a bit loud and you've woken us all up".
Nothing was said in return, so I padded home. The noise didn't diminish, "Ah well" I thought, and after they quietened down (another twenty minutes later), I fell asleep again.
Next day, I came back to our tent to discover that someone had let down most of our guy ropes and pulled out the tent pegs (happily the tent was still standing).
Then at 4am the next morning, I was woken up by the tent neighbours coming home loudly... then I was treated to them doing bellowed impressions of me, ("HOW DARE YOU COME TO A FESTIVAL AND HAVE FUN? HOW DARE YOU LAUGH"), along with a detailed and unflattering critique of my looks and personality, followed by gleeful cackling about how they'd taught me a lesson by adjusting my guy ropes for me.
I decided there was nothing to be gained from confronting them, so I just had to lay there while they went on and on. I couldn't even get to sleep when they eventually stopped as I was so wound up.
I then spent most of the next day paranoid that they were going to do something else to our tent while we were gone (happily they didn't).
Looking back on it, it wasn't that bad - fiddling with guy ropes is hardly the most malicious thing to do - but the whole thing really stressed me out. It actually wasn't so much the guy ropes, more the fact that they were so nasty about me (I'm pretty thin-skinned), it was definitely the low point of that festival.
Double-strength arsehole-ism
That's a shame, Hannah. People have always had a tendency to be arseholes, that's just life, but there's definitely been a shift lately into people not considering this to be a bad thing, i.e. it used to be that you could confront someone with their selfishness/inconsideration, and you'd get an embarrassed shrug, a mumbled "sorry, mate" and that would be it; now we have whole scads of humanity who think that they're entitled to behave however they like, and it's everyone else who's being unreasonable.
This very weekend I had a polite word with my neighbour, who'd been working on his car, with much revving of engine, at 7.00 AM on a Sunday morning... he was fine about it, but did look at me as if I was mad...
That would annoy me too
What annoys me about people making a noise that early on a Sunday morning is that I would love to outside doing some DIY but I don't because I recognise that other people sleep late on the weekends. I like to get up, have breakfast and get going and that would be about 6:30 for me. It's sometimes very annoying to be reasonable and not start making a noise until hours after the initial enthusiasm of a new day has worn off.