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Everything rock n' roll should be... AC/DC!

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I've spent this glorious afternoon listening to Powerage and Highway to Hell by AC/DC with the windows open. What an utterly magnificent band they are. Heavy metal this isn't... this is lowdown, filthy, horny, grubby rock n' roll music. And it's fucking brilliant.

So let's raise a glass of something potent to the one, the only.... AC/DC.

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You are dead right, Patrick.

A band I've loved non-stop since the age of 13. They can't go out of fashion, because they're utterly timeless. Christ, they're brilliant.

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Bob | 24 April 2010 - 7:28pm

If

AC/DC were to give a seperate release of the vinyl rarities album that comes with their collector's box set I'd drop everything I'm doing to go get a copy.

I love love love this band. They were incredible when I saw them live January 2009. I watch my dvds of Family Jewels, Plug Me In and Donnington on a regular basis.

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TheAwesomeSound | 24 April 2010 - 7:35pm

They epitomise everything great about Rock Music

They are pure and simple. No unecessary frils, no noodling, just straight ahead rockular heaven.

In the beginning, about 1955 their seed was sown....Let There Be Rock...

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Uncle Wheaty | 24 April 2010 - 7:42pm

I want 666 comments on this thread...

only 662 to go.

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Patrick Crowther | 24 April 2010 - 7:51pm
Uncle Wheaty | 24 April 2010 - 7:55pm

My small attempt to help

rack the number up to 666 is this, what would The Massive like AC DC to stand for?

A Cracking Dance Combo?

Anal Cream Dries Cracks?

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Dave Amitri | 26 April 2010 - 9:57pm

F**k yeah!

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Patrick Crowther | 24 April 2010 - 8:02pm

how many

double entendres do they fit into the opening sequence!!

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bargepole | 24 April 2010 - 8:15pm

Letsby Avenue....

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Bob | 24 April 2010 - 8:54pm

And Another

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Rigid Digit | 24 April 2010 - 9:08pm

AC/DC, A band so cool......

That even Glee have to cover them

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NE1 | 24 April 2010 - 9:12pm

This proves it ain't easy...

A pretty faithful copy but it doesn't rock or roll.

AC/DC had/have a great band chemistry and a magical rhythm section. When Phil Rudd was sacked from band for a while they couldn't quite do it repeat it with another drummer could they.

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Paul Thompson | 25 April 2010 - 9:57am

You can't beat a bit of Riff Raff

This was always the track I played most when If You want Blood You've Got It came out. I had no idea that it had been filmed in the old Glasgow Apollo and would eventually be available on DVD when Family Jewels came out. I've since watched it a thousand times and have even pasted it onto my facebook account, so I know its there. The riffing from Angus and Malcolm is tremendous and the rhythm section is tighter than a nun's chuff. Of course, only Bon could get away with wearing a sweatshirt while fronting a heavy rockn'roll band.

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rocker43 | 24 April 2010 - 9:20pm

They are one of those bands that occupy a genre

of music that includes...JUST THEM!

I fucking adore AC/DC!

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D.Green | 24 April 2010 - 9:21pm

This was good

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Dave Amitri | 24 April 2010 - 9:25pm

Black Hawk Down

I never knew that.I'm reaching for Back in Black immediately.

Thanks Dave.

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bricameron | 26 April 2010 - 7:01am

this track says it all

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rocker43 | 24 April 2010 - 9:28pm

Ahhh, where would we be without...

....bagpipes in rock eh ?

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Harold Holt | 27 April 2010 - 3:03pm

Is this song:

a) smut
or
b) a simple story of running a Dance Hall?

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Rigid Digit | 24 April 2010 - 9:47pm

Back In Black

is a great album, but not when you are driving your Mother to the shops

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happy harry | 24 April 2010 - 10:05pm

Hate to disrupt the love in

But aren't they terrible shite?

Retrograde, sexist, numb skulled nonsense aimed at halfwitted 14 year old virgins. Music reduced to its component parts, barre chord after barre chord with a gallumphing 4/4 rythm in every song. It's just shite. The modern equivalent of beating two stones together.

No nuance, no wit, no poetry, no harmony, no subtlety, no humour. Just duh-duh-duh-duh duh-duh for ever.

And lets have an AC/DC song title competition:

Ram It Up
Leaky Balls
Rock n Roll Is Great
She Was Fat
I'm a Rock n Rollin Virgin
Elite was a Dissapointment

In conclusion; shite.

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goatboyuk69 | 24 April 2010 - 11:19pm

Goatboy.. Don't try to use words you don't understand.

You're getting into Music Journalist territory. Who knows.. you might get to to edit a magazine at this rate.

A barré chord is one where the index finger of the left hand is used to fret all six strings simultaneously. As far as I'm aware, Angus and Malcom have never used such a tool in their work. Power chords a-plenty, lots of simple substitutions, loads of slash chords, but a full barré anywhere? I think not.

Yes it is simple. And, yes, a lot of it is somewhat lumpen. We'll ignore those bits. The genius lies in the simplicity. Pared down rock 'n' roll at its most primal, music which lets you know who and what you really are.. those who don't like AC/DC are probably.. well.. people who don't like music.

Fans of The Fall

Probably..

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Lenny Law | 25 April 2010 - 12:09am

I know what

a barre chord is. I'm a musician,

The idea that AC/DC magically fail to use them when every band/ solo artist/ every guitar based music ever relies upon them is absurd.

They are,however, lumpen, cliched, dull and tired. Their latest album is the soundtrack to a superhero movie with songs they recorded 20years ago. Songs intended to appeal to the 14 year old boys who liked them the first time they were released.

Guitar music can be inspired (see Johnny Marrs work with The Smiths) or it can keep repeating what has passed (repeatedly nicking Stones riffs with more distortion) to diminishing effect.

AC/DC are the Status Quo someone appears to have decided are okay to like. The same thing over and over and usually the same 4 or 5 songs.

C'mon now. Surely they're just shite?

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goatboyuk69 | 25 April 2010 - 4:04am

as Angus once said in an interview with Andy Kershaw

(I'm paraphrasing) "people are only telling lies when they say we've done 10 albums that all sound the same. Its actually 11 albums" (cue Brian Johnson sitting beside him giggling into pint of bitter).

Brian once said "we don't do concept or New Age stuff..as Malcolm would say, its more Old Age"

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rocker43 | 25 April 2010 - 12:14pm

Oh darlings, he's a Musician...

so therefore he must know better than us mere listeners, which must make him Absolutely Right. I feel suitablt chastened...

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Bluesboy | 29 April 2010 - 6:20pm

I think that Patrick's original contention

that they elide the 'metal' thing, is what counts here.
They truly belong to a thread that runs from Little Richard, through Eddie Cochrane, Johnny Kidd, The Sonics, The Ramones...All of which you could level those er 'critical' points at.

Give it up Goatboy...yer messin' with stuff you just don't understand!

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 12:23am

Just like to add

that I don't give a stuff about what Guitar techniques are used or not used.Sometimes Music is just supposed to be fun just good old dirty fun.

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Pencilsqueezer | 25 April 2010 - 7:36am

Actually...

...Angus and Malcolm (Malcolm being the real unsung hero of AC/DC) use as many open chords as they do barres or power chords.

But that's irrelevant. Sure, they're not nuanced. Sure, they're the very definition of simple, straight-ahead rock n' roll. But I don't see how that's a bad thing, per se. As others have said, so much of the best music is incredibly simple, and SO much of the worst is self-indulgent, too-many-notes, too-much-of-everything twaddle. I think you'd have to look hard even to find a keyboard part in AC/DC's back catalogue: they've only ever been drums, bass, two guitars and the two best pure rock n' roll singers ever to grace a stage in Bon Scott and Brian Johnson. That's a good thing.

As for lumpen and galumphing - no. I can't accept that. When they're slow, they're ROCK steady, with a driving rhythm section that puts almost any band I can think of to shame. When they're fast, they're viscerally, thrillingly kinetic.

They may not be poetic. They may not be subtle. Their sense of humour may be schoolboy, if we're being generous. But that doesn't matter. They fucking rock, and they do it better than anyone.

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Bob | 25 April 2010 - 7:54am

There's room for both...

I love AC/DC, and have recently developed a penchant for Weather Report. It's a broad church....

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Iainso | 25 April 2010 - 9:58am

Magnificent!

Thank-you idiotbear.

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bricameron | 26 April 2010 - 7:12am

We had that competition a while back ...

Patrick won, naturally!

I was only ever a casual fan - 'If You Want Blood ...' & 'Back In Black' - but I saw them live for the first time on the last tour and was stunned at how fantastic a live show they deliver. Loud, stupid, and rifftastic - the very essence of rock'n'roll.

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Steven C | 25 April 2010 - 8:16am

What's wrong with being sexy?

She had the face of an angel
Smiling with sin
The body of Venus with arms

Rock n' roll poetry, right there.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 9:47am

ACE C DC

Is the new ACDC album just a soundtrack to Iron Man 2 or are there some new songs on it? I only own one ACDC album on tape, "Back In Black". Must buy some more, I've only seen an ACDC tribute band, they were great but I imagine the real thing live is just fantastic.

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David Wright | 24 April 2010 - 11:36pm

Well now...

The Iron man 2 soundtrack is a best of AC/DC. Not a bad selection, but personally, I grew up listening to the classic early albums. The three studio albums they made before Bon Scott died are where they really hit their stride. Check out Let There Be Rock, Powerage and Highway To Hell. You've got Back In Black and if you get the soundtrack album I would suggest you have all you need.

Shame you didn't check them out while they were on tour recently. This is how they hit the stage. They were brilliant. No question about it, they rock.

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Nick Duvet | 25 April 2010 - 5:59am

Hayseed Dixie

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Seamus | 24 April 2010 - 11:44pm

Just another thought

has any band sold more t-shirts than AC/DC?

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Dave Amitri | 25 April 2010 - 12:01am

Yes Patrick, right on the money

And Powerage is their best album I think, especially in the original UK vinyl configuration, which was:

Side One
Gimme A Bullet
Downpayment Blues
Gone Shootin
Riff Raff

Side Two
Sin City
Up To My Neck In You
What's Next To The Moon
Cold-hearted Man
Kicked In The Teeth

I saw them a couple of months ago (having not seem them since the Bon Scott era) and they were just fantastic entertainment. And don't underestimate the importance of the backline. It's Malcolm, Cliff and the much-underrated Phil Rudd, who provide the swagger that make AC/DC more than just meat and potatoes rock and roll.

This is probably my all-time favourite, from Powerage

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Nick Duvet | 25 April 2010 - 1:24am

In the late 1970s...

if you were to go to a post-show party in Keith Richards' hotel room, that was the album you would have heard blasting out of his stereo. Trust the Human Riff to know good riffs when he hears them...

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 10:03am

Immortalised here in Mad Max...

...the greatest rock n roll lyrics in history:


I'm a rocker
I'm a roller
I'm a right out of controller
I'm a wheeler
I'm a dealer
I'm a wicked woman stealer
I'm a bruiser
I'm a cruiser
I'm a rockin' rollin' man

Got slicked black hair
Skin tight jeans
Cadillac car
And a teenage dream

I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rockin' rollin' man

Got lorex socks
Blue suede shoes
V8 car
And tattoos

I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rockin' rollin' man

I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rockin' rollin' man

I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, I'm an interior designer
I'm a rocker, I'm a basque-wearin' certified accountant
I added those two bits to make sure you were paying attention
I'm a rockin' rollin', rockin rollin man, hey

Wanna jive honey?
C'mon, spin you 'round, hey yeah

Yeah I'm a rocker, I'm a roller
I'm a rocker, makin' you roll

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Pax Romana | 25 April 2010 - 1:42am

my wife

just asked what i was laughing at. Excellent work.

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badartdog | 25 April 2010 - 1:09pm

Thanks for the props, Bad

I'm just thinking; was Bon Scott suggesting that he was a wicked man who stole ordinary women, or that he was an ordinary man (who nonetheless had it in him to occasionally be an out-of-controller) who only stole women that were wicked?

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Pax Romana | 25 April 2010 - 3:02pm

Goatboy..

"Retrograde, sexist, numb skulled nonsense aimed at halfwitted 14 year old virgins. Music reduced to its component parts, barre chord after barre chord with a gallumphing 4/4 rythm in every song. It's just shite. The modern equivalent of beating two stones together."
That'll be Rock n' Roll then.
(But if you think that's all they are..cop this..

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shane pacey | 25 April 2010 - 3:17am

AC DC are great....

....but a little too one dimensional.

Let's face it, you really only need 'Back in Black' and one Bon Scott era album (my choice - TNT) to have as much AC DC as anyone would ever really want.

Once you've got 2 albums, you've covered all the bases, haven't you?

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Travis Bickle | 25 April 2010 - 3:14am

An absolutely blistering live band

And anyone who doesn't hear the subtlety & nuance in this has cloth ears.

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GunsOfBrixton | 25 April 2010 - 9:36am

Rock...

n'
fuckin'
roll.

And erotica too. An unbeatable combination.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 9:59am

um...

I could only take about 3 mins of it so apols if I missed something later, but is it the little middle aged guy in the velvet school uniform providing the erotica, Patrick?

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badartdog | 25 April 2010 - 12:00pm

Errr....

yes.

Fwoar.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 12:48pm

Magnificent response

Made my day

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FakeGeordie | 28 April 2010 - 2:18pm

Now that...

is how it's done.

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Cobweb Steve | 25 April 2010 - 11:59am

What the naysayers miss..

..is that, if what AC/DC did was as mindless as they attest, why can't more people actually DO it?
It's because like all great rock bands, they actually swing.

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shane pacey | 25 April 2010 - 10:07am

If I could I'd give you 666 up arrows for that...

you have hit the nail on the head. The AC/DC rhythm section should be as lauded as any in rock n' roll. Those guys swing and they groove and aren't lumpen at all if you actually listen to them.

Any old fool with a few guitar chops can play fast and loud, but only musicians with true heart and soul can play music as deceptively simple as AC/DC's. They deserve so much respect, and that's why I posted this thread.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 10:19am

Malcolm...

...is the real star, a Rhythm Guitar that ROLLS.

And of coarse dat damn drummer.

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Stuart Graham | 25 April 2010 - 10:37am

'Swing'.

Nailed it.

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 11:08am

AC DC?

My god - are they still going?
First band I ever saw - back in '75 I think. I'd never heard of them. Pretty basic four square rock band. Very young - one of them was still at school iirc. Can't wait to hear the stuff they're doing these days.

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badartdog | 25 April 2010 - 11:00am

7 years ago

I got to see them at the 'intimate' gig they did at Hammersmith as a thank you to fans - 10 quid ticket that went to charity.
No lights, no set list, quick sound check.

Astonishing.

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 11:12am

Hammersmith 2003 right?

I was there too. I pretended I was feeling ill, bunked off work that afternoon, and queued outside for a wristband for admission later on (a tout prevention policy by the promoters and management). I'd only do that for one band.

Will be sporting the T-shirt at the Download festival in June.

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rocker43 | 25 April 2010 - 12:32pm

Queued for hours

got the wristband, went to the pub. Back to the venue for the doors opening, walked in, flashed the wristband.
'wheres your ticket?'
'Ive got the wristband'
'you need a wristband and a ticket that proves you got the wristband'
'The wristband is there, on my wrist. That proves I've got the wristband'
'No ticket and wristband. No entry'

Could feel tears forming and about to drop to my knees screaming when my mate said 'Oh, Ive got the tickets here. Sorry'.

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 12:54pm

hilarious. I've been in situations like that

I always keep hold of documentary evidence of ticket ownership, the relevant credit card, email confirmations, you name it. these doormen are worse than the police. but its good because touts are a menace to these sorts of special fan gigs.

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rocker43 | 25 April 2010 - 1:07pm

AAAAARRRGGGH! How did I not know about that gig?!

More detail please, Douglas! That must have been something special...

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 12:51pm

It was summat to do

with 25 years since they first played hammersmith I think. That's why it was a tenner - the original price.
Tickets went on sale internet only at 9am and they had sold out by 3 minutes past. Christ knows how I got em, but it popped up in my junk mail later that day. A confirmation email meant that you could collect two wristbands/tickets on the day of the gig. It was october 2003.
I stood next to Bobby Gillespie, Basement Jax and Nick cave.

It still feels like a dream.

Oh...Douglas is the other Green.

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 1:00pm

Woops - sorry D.

But what was the music like?

Did Angus moon the crowd?

Did they do anything unexpected in terms of the set list?

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 1:03pm

here's the setlist that night Patrick, start crying. :)

1.Hell aint a bad place to be
2.Back in Black
3.Stiff Upper Lip
4.Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
5.Thunderstruck
6.Rock'n'roll Damnation
7.Hard as a Rock
8.The Jack
9.Hells Bells
10.If You Want Blood You've Got it
11.TNT
12.You shook me all night long
13.Whole Lotta Rosie
14.Let there be rock
Encores
1.Highway to Hell
2.For those about to rock we salute you

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rocker43 | 25 April 2010 - 1:01pm

Rock! Rock! Rock! Rock!

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 1:08pm

Sheeeeeeit!

'Where you get that set list?' Oh Mama!

There was indeed 'mooning', a comedy small ramp for Angus to strut and I remember that the sound was really muddy and quiet for the first cuople a numbers. People were screaming to get it sorted and then...
BUMPH! Straight in the knackers!

Must be some clips somewhere...

Im going to ask my mate Big Al for more details...

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 1:09pm
D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 1:17pm

I was at the 1978 show at Hammi Odeon

that your anniversary show celebrated. You can start weeping now rocker43...

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kb | 26 April 2010 - 5:22pm

When I went to see them

in 96 (I think) I became an immediate convert. I hadn't realized they were as much a dance band as a metal band. The rhythm section blew me away.

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Mr Fade | 25 April 2010 - 11:30am

Hmmmm

A lengthy love in on the Word message board regarding a geriatric rock band illustrated with a clip from Top Gear.

Are we not in danger of lurching into self parody here?

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goatboyuk69 | 25 April 2010 - 11:34am

Give it up man...

and move on...

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 11:41am

I can sort of see

that they add to the gaiety of nations in the same way as Kiss and Van Halen and Guns 'n' Roses - and actually the use of "Back in Black" in Iron Man is perfect as it sums up the cartoon quality of their work.

However, I refute the notion they "swing". Only Zep and Deep Purple circa Burn do that.

I also can't stand BJ's voice (and wasn't that keen on Bon Scott's either) - sounds to me like an unfortunate accident involving an alley-cat and a rusty mangle

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Sheev | 25 April 2010 - 12:43pm

"an unfortunate accident involving an alley-cat and...

a rusty mangle" - precisely! That's what makes him so perfect for AC/DC! I think he'd take that as a great compliment.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 12:59pm

Onions

You know em.

Zep, 'Burn' era Purple. Certainly swing.

But check out the 'Stiff Upper Lip' album.

Swinging.

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D.Green | 25 April 2010 - 1:04pm

they do swing, so there

I don't disagree with you re Purple or BJ's voice, but you are wrong to lump them in with Kiss, VH et al.

They swing, fact.

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Nick Duvet | 25 April 2010 - 9:49pm

Dunno..

..ask Matt Munro..

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shane pacey | 25 April 2010 - 12:29pm

I'll lurch into self-parody with pleasure...

I'd much rather celebrate a great rock n' roll band than give a flying toss about being cool.

Top Gear - great entertainment. AC/DC - great entertainment. Job done.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 12:56pm

OK, we get it - you don't like them

That's fine. One of the reasons I like hanging out here is the diversity of taste. There are so many other sites that are awash with "I don't like them - QED - they are shit" . There are dozens of acts feted on here that I can't abide. Which generally, I think is a good thing.

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fortuneight | 25 April 2010 - 1:11pm

Quite right...

The fact that we can discuss dirty rock n' roll, Swedish pop, New Orleans funk and Bognor Regis techno in the same place is something to be treasured.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 5:51pm

Woah Nelly!!

Theres a slightly aggressive undertone being directed at me on this thread I don't entirely understand.

Surely whats good about this site is the high level of tolerance shown to all regardless of their opinions? I don't much like AC/DC - a band whose obsessive interest in pumping things whilst sticking them in is belied by their name being an abbreviation for bi-sexuality. Bi-sexual schoolboys it seems. Actually, perhaps their less fussy about their pumping and sticking than I'd previously thought. I do quite like the one about big balls as it reminds me of Charles Hawtrey.

Lets ROOOOOOOCCCKKKK!!!

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goatboyuk69 | 25 April 2010 - 10:52pm

Calm Down Dear

It's Only Rock n Roll But We Like It.

If you don't then that is fine.

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Uncle Wheaty | 25 April 2010 - 11:02pm

Methinks thou dost bleat too much, kid..

..opinions are all well and good, and so is calling them shite, but don't then complain about overly agressive replies.
Barre chords?..surely you're thinking of Oasis?

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shane pacey | 26 April 2010 - 8:14am

Surely

Lambchop? Annabel Lamb?

Baaarre.

Please yerself.

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Beany | 26 April 2010 - 10:25am

Groove on...

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Reno Dakota | 25 April 2010 - 11:44am

Whole Lotta Rosie

Would love to have been there:

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sarahg | 25 April 2010 - 12:18pm

Saw them.....

at the Birmingham Odeon back in the early 1980's on the 'For those about to rock tour.....' After a couple of songs, it became quite predictable - they do it to a formula and I became bored. Still enjoy 'Back in back' and small doses - but no more than that....

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andrewdavidlong | 25 April 2010 - 5:01pm

a question for the real fans and purists

what's your favourite obscure AC/DC tracks ie the ones that never get airplay on rock radio (well hardly ever) and they never perform live anymore? Mine are

There's gonna be some rocking (from Dirty Deeds...)
Go Down (from Let There Be Rock)
Down Payment Blues (from Powerage)
Walk all over you (from Highway to Hell)
Have a drink on me (from Back in Black)
Lets get it up (from For Those About to Rock...)
Flick of the Switch
Who Made Who
Big Gun (from the Armageddon Soundtrack - see video below)
Heatseeker (from Blow up your video)
Money Talks (from Razors Edge)
Burnin Alive (from Ballbreaker)

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rocker43 | 25 April 2010 - 5:33pm

Hold Me Back

from Stiff Upper Lip. Subtly gathers momentum all the way through, lovely economical Angus lead break, swings, and is absolutely not the plodding riff grind that they are often accused of. Love it.

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Reginald Mole-H... | 25 April 2010 - 9:11pm

Almost agreed, it's great but....

....Problem Child from If You Want Blood for mine.

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Harold Holt | 26 April 2010 - 12:16pm

My Suggestion:

Can I Sit Next To You Girl (High Voltage)
Guns For Hire (Flick Of The Switch)
Nick Of Time (Blow Up Your Video)

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Rigid Digit | 26 April 2010 - 8:25pm

Anyone see them on their first UK tour?

Sure it was a Sounds sponsored affair with tickets at 60p. I spent most of the show with a record company rep, drinking the band's beer and witnessing a snot roadie coming to the rescue of Angus so he could go back on stage.

Is there a definitive tour list on t'interweb anywhere so I can confirm it was not just a dream?

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Beany | 25 April 2010 - 6:57pm

yep

that's when I saw them. Bradford, St George's Hall. Was it 75 or 76? I went for the films of other bands that were being shown instead of a support act, but can't remember who they were featuring apart from Kiss.
I'd never heard of them - quite enjoyed it but never felt the need to investigate further.

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badartdog | 25 April 2010 - 7:28pm

Ha!

That's the one I went to. Could not tell you a thing about it except Angus coming off stage covered in a runny nose and having to have a roadie wipe it for him.

Later saw them play Leeds Poly, a 650-capacity venue where grown men were seen to crawl from the wreckage with bleeding ears. I listened from the safety of the bar but do have photos.

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Beany | 26 April 2010 - 10:29am

God I love You Tube...

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2010 - 7:12pm

My wife

just asked me what I was laughing at. Again.

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badartdog | 25 April 2010 - 7:30pm

It's a point well made...

I recently started going out running with a (very old) iPod shuffle for company. Despite being a fully paid up Decembrists/Go Betweens/Laura Marling fan, if you're running it's Rage against the MAchine, Gang of Four and the DC for me...

BUT If 'Stuck between Stations' by the Hold Steady doesn't get you through the 5 k mark, you shouldn't be out there....

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Kenny.Boz | 25 April 2010 - 9:33pm

AC/DC...

...and The Hold Steady are my gym bands. Well, they're kind of my everything bands. I never get tired of either of them.

Personally, Banging Camp by THS is a proper break-through-the-pain treadmill song. Well, almost all of Separation Sunday fits that bill.

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Bob | 25 April 2010 - 9:49pm

The Summer sartorial quandary answered.

Velvet Schoolboy outfit,perfect summer attire.

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Pencilsqueezer | 26 April 2010 - 7:24am

AC/CD versus The RamoneC

This is slow hard rock,a bit plodding, the Ramones were much better,much funnier, much faster

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cactus7709 | 26 April 2010 - 7:29am

I would wholeheartedly agree..

..that The Ramones were faster and funnier, but not better.
Aside from the fact that it's a spurious comparison (AC/DC are much more from the Little Richard/Who/Stones stream..The Ramones tried to play bubblegum music, and it was their failure to do so that gave them their charm) AC/DC would have blown the New Yorkers into Brooklyn if they'd ever dared share a stage with them..sorry, that makes them a better band.

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shane pacey | 26 April 2010 - 8:16am

Maybe we could leave it with the...

...faux-objective evaluations?

The Ramones and AC/DC are both great. If people don't like AC/DC, I'd respectfully suggest that this ain't the right thread. Turning up purely to piss on other people's chips is a bit off, IMO.

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Bob | 26 April 2010 - 9:05am

Up to a point

I agree totally with the faux-objective bit. But let's not forget that some of us persisted with the unwelcome opinion that The Fall are shite. And it made for an enjoyable thread.

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Nick Duvet | 26 April 2010 - 9:34am

Hmmm.

That was slightly different. That thread was about the validity, or otherwise, of Heppo's review. I thought the least interesting bits were the comments that essentially ran "They're shit" / "No they're not" / "Oh yes they are, and you're wrong" / "Your mum is shit" / "No, your mum and no returns, to infinity".

This one was Patrick starting a thread about a band he loves. It's a bit rude to just rock up and say "you've got shit taste", IMO.

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Bob | 26 April 2010 - 10:04am

Hear, hear...

..have an 'arrer.

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shane pacey | 26 April 2010 - 10:15am

I thought about that

when I saw AC/DC a couple of months back. I thought I would start a thread on here, but then I thought maybe it was bit low-brow and people would tell me I had shit taste. Anyway, I'm glad Patrick got it going and we've been able to share a mutual love of a truly great rock and roll band.

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Nick Duvet | 26 April 2010 - 10:36am

Never be afraid of having shit taste...

The bands that have provided me with the most genuine enjoyment over the years have all been subject to a critical kicking or three. Rush, Supertramp, AC/DC... even Led Zeppelin, who were considered an anachronism until someone deigned them to be cool again in the early 1990s.

It's all a bit of a laugh for me... I can understand why people say AC/DC are sexist, stupid, macho, repetitive, boorish etc etc... but that is exactly why I love them so much.

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Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 11:11am

I have far too many 'uncool' bands

in my collection to be unduly worried. My time in the US in the late 70s has saddled me with a lasting fondness for Kansas. Oh, the shame!

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Nick Duvet | 26 April 2010 - 11:35am

When you put it like that...

...it serves us all well to remember that we are just dust in the wind. I love rock philosophy, me!

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Iainso | 26 April 2010 - 1:28pm

Being true to oneself +

Not giving a flying f*ck what anyone else thinks = Cool.

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Pencilsqueezer | 26 April 2010 - 1:42pm

Have an up!

Well said.

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Iainso | 26 April 2010 - 2:13pm

Supertramp are shite

Only kidding 8-}

They are playing the O2 Arena in October - sponsored by The Word(?)

http://www.ents24.com/web/artist/47218/Supertramp.html

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Beany | 26 April 2010 - 11:09pm

They don't just swing, they groove

I've come to this discussion late but am definitely a fan. If you need any further proof of the brilliance of the DC rhythm section, look no further. I love it when the camera goes to Phil Rudd, simple yet perfect. My favourite ever AC/DC song.

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Big Guxy | 26 April 2010 - 9:22am

I double posted

so what the hell, better put some more Powerage up here

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Nick Duvet | 26 April 2010 - 9:59am

100 up!

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Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 11:29am

Received music press wisdom

Let's face it, so much received music press wisdom is lazy and lousy; classic rock is demonstrably better than indie strummers or whatever the NME's next big thing has been since about 1980; the good bits of punk were the bits that were closer to hard rock and post-punk was better; the Police made better 'reggae' than The Clash (a lumpen early 'record collection act' if there ever was one); black music has lost it's direction since landfill rap has emerged; most Americana and alt-folk is liked by the same sad bores who liked country rock in the 70s [and if that's hurting the compiler of the Word cover-disc, it's harsh but true); and snide criques of progressive rock signify somebody with no genuine critical analysis. Oh, and The Fall - Mark E Smith's great and a funny, clever guy, but the music is excrable; give the man a newspaper column and a radio interview show so he can be paid for what he's good at.

AC/DC - great stuff. Keep upsetting the right people and giving pleasure to the majority.

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Vincent | 26 April 2010 - 11:43am

Hmm.

Large amounts of that I agree with completely, Vincent, but I must take you to task as regards.. er.. no, not that bit.. no, that's spot on.. so's that..

OK. You're a genius. Post of the week as far as I'm concerned.

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Lenny Law | 26 April 2010 - 12:55pm

The Police

Couldn't agree more. I still play the first two albums on a regular basis and they have aged well (apart from Be My Girl!).

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Uncle Wheaty | 26 April 2010 - 7:34pm

I don't rate their albums that highly...

but as a singles band The Police were magnificent. The Soul Cake hitmaker was bloody good once...

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Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 7:37pm

Sometimes it's about more than just the music....

At an inter-school disco in the early 80's, loads of the 15-17 year old lads turned up with black arm bands on. Once everyone was nicely warmed up on a diet of warm smuggled in vodka, Chic and Donna Summer, the DJ put an AC/DC track on and all the lads got up in a giant circle and head banged in homage to the great Bon Scott. After it was over there was a minute's silence, accompanied by a few man hugs, some sniffing, and quite a lot of embarrassed foot shuffling. It was unexpectadly touching to see these inarticulate spotty lumps of adolescence respond like that. And quite a few of the lads got some extra 'attention' during the slow last dance from the girls as a result.

Today at just after 2:30 I was in the car coming back from the dentist when 'Back in Black' came on Radio 1. AC/DC are number 1 in the album charts. The 12 year old was air drumming like, well, like a 12 year old with minimal technique does, and we were all grinning like loons.

Sometimes it's about more than just the music...

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SarahWall | 26 April 2010 - 3:40pm

AC/DC are No.1...

in the album chart, Iron Man 2 is sure to be a huge success and Andrew Harrison loved the first movie. Surely this shows that Angus and the boys merit a Word cover and feature?!

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Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 5:24pm

Cover of Mojo this month!

Oh, and for the purists - lets have a row about this...

Me, Ive had it on dodgy cd for years - sold to me on the basis that it was cut by Bon before he died.
Utter bollocks, but...I...think...this bloke...sings the shit out f it...

Question is

Who is it?

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D.Green | 26 April 2010 - 5:32pm

RATT

with Steven Pearcey on vocals. Its not a bad effort, though a bit too LA hair metal for me.

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rocker43 | 26 April 2010 - 7:42pm

That is all the proof that anyone needs...

as to why AC/DC are one of the great bands and Ratt... err... aren't. The former play unsubtle music with great subtlety and the latter have the lightness of touch of an elephant trying to tap dance.

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Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 7:48pm

Very well done gentlemen!

and sorry...er...Ratt fans.

ahem.

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D.Green | 26 April 2010 - 10:15pm

An AC/DC agnostic writes

I can't listen to anything with Brian Johnston on it. Horrible voice - and not in a good way. Bon Scott was great. I used to like High Voltage and Highway To Hell. They were certainly playing the blues, eg on The Jack ("Poker face was her name, poker face was her nature" indeed).

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Rosbif | 26 April 2010 - 5:38pm

hear bloody hear

post Bon acca dacca is unlistenable

and if you have all the Bon era albums why would you bother with the new stuff except for the production

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Junior Wells | 30 April 2010 - 5:33am

The production is precisely why you *wouldn't* bother...

with most of the post-Bon albums, especially the mid to late 80s ones. Big drums, processed guitars - not what you want from AC/DC. I think the production on the great AC/DC records is fabulous - it captures the band exactly as they should be heard with a raw yet clear sound.

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Patrick Crowther | 30 April 2010 - 9:20am

Post Bon I think they've confused

"raw" with "loud". I just love the way that Angus's opening chords here sustain until they feedback. It's a got a live, raw edge they just don't have today


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fortuneight | 30 April 2010 - 10:31am

Touch Too Much

Am a huge DC fan and was also lucky enough to see them at the Hammersmith Apollo gig, have seem them 4 times now and have never seen them (or heard of them)doing Touch Too Much live.
As it's possibly my favourite track by them and one of the biggest chart successes does anybody know why this is?

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Larry Bee | 26 April 2010 - 6:19pm
Patrick Crowther | 26 April 2010 - 6:57pm

I'm in a covers band.

We are so doing that this summer!

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Iainso | 26 April 2010 - 8:06pm

This is interesting..

AkkerDakker's chart stats.

http://www.chartstats.com/artistinfo.php?id=2957

Low initial interest in the Bon Scott days; BIB hits #1 then a gradual trundle until a sudden huge upsurge in interest in recent years. I wonder if stats on the back-catalogue sales are available? I know BIB has now shifted absolute shitloads. They are now, pretty unarguably, the biggest band in the World with a popularity which was, at one time, confined to spotty adolescent boys now transformed into one which crosses ages and genders. I saw them at Wembley last summer and you couldn't charicterise the fanbase at all. Apart from the fact that they all liked a bit of down 'n' dirty rock 'n' roll.

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Lenny Law | 26 April 2010 - 11:00pm

Black Ice

8 million copies sold but not available on itunes? 'Buy the whole album or fuck off!'

An old school level of success we wont see the like of again.

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D.Green | 26 April 2010 - 11:10pm

Hell - this chick rocks!

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Beany | 26 April 2010 - 11:14pm

QI

Keith Richards had an AC/DC track down as one of his Desert Island discs - he absolutely loved them. Can't remember which one - maybe Riff-Raff?

Also, in a Podcast Passim, Mr. H mentioned that he had never knowingly heard an AC/DC song. What's his view after this thread?

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James Helford | 27 April 2010 - 9:33am

Wind up

They formed in 1973.
Surely that was the time, if you hadn't done so already to make your 'last' album not your first.
Springsteen, Queen, Roxy Music, New York Dolls.....oh dear, oh dear.
They were certainly in ho-hum company but I accept that AC/DC have more about them that any in that list.

I'll stop winding you up.....
Seriously, Angus Young's brother was in a much, much better group.....The Easybeats.
Legend has it that Paul McCartney (he invented heavy metal, you know) liked a song of theirs ('Good Times' with Steve Marriott on backing vocals) so much when he heard it on U.S. radio, that he stopped his car, rang the local radio station and got them to play it again.....now that out beats AC/DC surely?
And it was 1968.

Still wasn't a hit though.

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ranger | 27 April 2010 - 4:32pm

Yeah, but...

...Paul McCartney also liked Heather Mills. His approval is no guarantee of quality!

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Bob | 28 April 2010 - 2:22pm

Why **** with magic?

Whenever someone says the 'DC always sound the same, i think back to this review of 'Stiff Upper Lip'

http://www.nme.com/reviews/acdc/1911

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David Owen | 29 April 2010 - 1:20pm

Jeez

What a self-conscious, pretentious review.

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Hippo | 29 April 2010 - 3:05pm

Greatest Hits

Would I be correct in thinking that they are the only band never to have released any compilation, Best Of, Essential etc?

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bowleyfields | 29 April 2010 - 2:42pm

Not that has been titled as such

Although Who Made Who (Maximum Overdrive Soundtrack), and now Iron Man 2 are "Best Ofs by another name".

Only other Band I can think of without a 'Best Of' is Half Man Half Biscuit (I'm about to embark on buying the catalogue, could be a while (depending on available funds))

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Rigid Digit | 29 April 2010 - 3:46pm

Silent Aussie Rock

AC/DC were amongst the support for The Who at Wembley Stadium in 1979. The PA system failed during their set but apparently AC/DC didn't notice so they kept on going while no one could hear them. The sight of these Aussie muppets rocking away in silence was quite amusing.
I've never liked AC/DC very much but there's room for all sorts in what we call Rock n Roll so I don't mind if other people think they're wonderful. It's optional. But I think you'd have to admit that they are a one trick pony - they have only ever done one thing (over and over). So, to me, it gets a bit tedious after a while. And Brian Johnston's voice is awful; he could only have survived as a singer in a band like AC/DC where few technical demands are made of him. It is kind of creepy that a middle-aged balding man still dresses up as a schoolboy, but then again a lot of creepy things go on in Rock n Roll. Best not to take it too seriously, eh?

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xorg | 29 April 2010 - 7:13pm

Just a thought...

How many other musicians can we think of from Bon Scott's era who have tattoos? It struck me this morning that it would have been a very unusual thing to see in the late 1970s. Now of course any old twerp has them.

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Patrick Crowther | 30 April 2010 - 9:46am

Alex Harvey ?

Can't find any close up piccies though. Any ex-navy boys ? Or girls for that matter ?

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Harold Holt | 1 May 2010 - 12:11pm
rocker43 | 1 May 2010 - 8:30am

Angus and Mal..

..and some geezers that make them look young.

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shane pacey | 1 May 2010 - 9:37am

Not done yet

still got to give this one an airing. Classic Bon Scott era and a great camera angle behind Phil Rudd

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Nick Duvet | 1 May 2010 - 11:37am

I completely understand they're not everyone's cup of

tea, or pint of whisky or whatever, but they always, always make me smile. My favourite band by a country mile. I really struggle to think of any rock albums greater than Highway To Hell or Back In Black.

While I can be painfully aware of PC sensitivities, this mob is just so juvenile about it, it doesn't seem to cross the line, and the stories are all about willing participants as far as I can tell, 'specially Rosie. (EDIT) Night Prowler is probably not though.

Anyway, the FPO and I share a scarily large proportion of musical tastes (one of the first things that attracted me), but she cannot abide AC/DC at all, almost to the point of violence. The minimum will be raised voices in the car if any comes on the MP3 player. She's also none too impressed that the 10 year old has a 'heavy' playlist on his iPod and can spot AC/DC tunes in a bar or two. Not that I take him into bars of course.

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Harold Holt | 2 May 2010 - 5:14am

AC/DC = headache inducing shite

and they're Australian. Enough said.

Thank you and good night

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Johnny Topaz | 21 May 2010 - 9:07pm

Thanks for that Johnny...

..is judging people from where they're from and on-going trait with you?
(For your intolerant records, there are 2 Scotsmen, two Brits and one Australian in the band.)

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shane pacey | 22 May 2010 - 2:22am

thanks Patrick

For some reason (probably sheer blind prejudice) they'd always passed me by too - never considered heavy metal as being my thing - and that's where I'd mentally filed them before reading this thread. Downloaded BIB and Powerage and I suspect there's more to follow. Thrilling stuff.

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timjulian | 23 May 2010 - 6:33pm
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