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Every one here has excellent taste in music....but
Posted by Uncle Wheaty on 16 November 2009 - 11:16pm.
Who is the artist that you have never been able to convert friends and colleagues to like as well?
Mine is Phil Campbell (aka White Buffalo). I saw him supporting Mike Scott in Cambridge in the mid/late 1990s and was immediately hooked.
He was promoting his debut album "Fresh New Life" which is a lost classic.
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Pallas....
A neo-prog band from the eighties from my hometown of Aberdeen. They still record the odd album but even in Aberdeen I seem to be a lone fan.
That makes two of us
I still have my signed Arrive Alive single. I remember seeing them at such salubrious venues as the ABC Bowl. We were all convinced that they were going to be huge, despite being pipped at the post by Marillion, who we derided as shameless Pallas copyists (right down to the jester!).
Mind you, I think they went downhill after Euan left.
Saw them in
JBs in Dudley and then Birmingham Odeon supporting Uli John Roth. Got ridiculously drunk in the bar upstairs with them while Roth played - his set was so loud it made the optics shake.
I agree, never quite the same once Euan went.
(They weren't ever as good as the mighty Twelfth Night though).
Music Hall
late 1970s, reds under the bed, jumpers for goalposts etc ... Googled them lately and was stunned to see they're still going ... thing was, even when i was at school Pallas were fantastically unfashionable because they were still doing proggy rawk after punk year zero ...
Incredible String Band
Enjoy !
Om Shanti
Followed by...
The Grateful Dead !
:-)
And finally..
to complete this cosmic orgasmic aural triptych of delight... The Mighty
QUINTESSENCE !
You lucky people - have a good day everyone.
White Buffalo
Hope Faith and You. From a Q cd. Very loved here but never really been able to find anything else by them. What else should I try and where do I get it?
I really like The Long Winters but no one else seems to share my view.
What next?
Fresh New Life is deleted, but if you can find a copy, it's pretty good.
Next up, Phil formed a three piece called White Buffalo, who were a considerably more rocking proposition. They released three albums; Live at the Kings Head (2000), Waiting To Go Home (2002) and Last of the V8 Interceptors (2004). The first two are pretty good, I've never heard the third; PC left at the time it was released.
Then he's done three solo albums since, which are more like FNL:
Daddys Table (2009 - yet to be released)
Joy (2007)
After the Garden (2008)
I've heard AtG, and it was OK, but not as good as Fresh New Life.
Teaspoon,
teaspoon.
Every one here has excellent taste in music....but
I'm not so sure about that bloke who loves NWOBHM. What was his name again ?
Mr Crowther?
He seems to be the one with the limited edition Praying Mantis album!
That's the one
Well Done,Uncle
I've got both Vardis albums
AND the Angel Witch album
AND the original Metal For Muthas sampler :-)
I had
the Angel Witch album and a lapel badge and saw them. God help me!
Heh... I must have seen them half-a-dozen times
always as a support though.
"You're an angel witch, you're an angel... witch"
Snap
And Trespass EP
And Venom LPs
And Saxon
And Diamond Head
And Tygers Of Pan Tang
And more - happily for me, confusingly for others
Trespass - One of These Days
Any excuse to replay this...
Can't get my family or friends into JJ72,
excellent (imho) Dublin based band who are now sadly defunct. Made 2 albums. They are the first band I play at the start of every Autumn season, the music, tunes and themes of the songs just seems so right for Autumn. Even doing this has not got any responce from my wife, children 24 and 22 year olds, other than "turn that shite off". But I will continue on in my blinkered mode regardless of my families profanities. Any JJ72 listeners out there in the parish? Or am I a Norman no Mates on this one?
I have their debut album.
As mentioned in another thread, I remember hearing their debut single (October Swimmer) on the radio, and thinking- "I like this, the singer's got a good voice; I wonder who she is?". Found out it was JJ72, then I bought their album a few months later when it came out and found out "she" was called Mark Greaney.
It has, over the last nine years, become one of those albums that I rarely listen to; yet when I do (I listened to it last week even) I find myself liking it just a little more. Aside from the singles, "Algeria" was always my favourite song of theirs for some reason.
I saw them supporting the
I saw them supporting the Charlatans in Dublin back in 2000, then went on to see them twice more in Liverpool.
I can't say I've listened to them for a while, mind.
Whenever anyone asks me who my favourite band is
I always say "Traffic". And I am always met with a puzzled silence. I have loved them ever since I was a kid and, with one notable exception (my best friend at school, who went on to become a professional musician), have never been able to persuade my family & friends to love them like I do. I don't get it: isn't it clear that they were brilliant & produced some of the most sublime music ever recorded?
Light Up Or Leave Me Alone
from 'On The Road' - peerless.
Who else but
ELP
I'm just stuck in a 17 yr old "progressive rock" time warp I think.
You're just sad you
He he. Greg Lake did a live chat on his new website at 10pm GMT last Sunday. It was so jammed with excited ELP fans that the servers could not cope. He will be back this coming Sunday if you want to ask him anything.
You and me
Both.
I don't care. I'm out and I'm proud.
One of life's guilty pleasures
I can still sing along to Brain Salad Surgery, even caught myself singing Benny the Bouncer in its entirety in a supermarket the other day, and I haven't heard any ELP since about 1985 (all my vinyl is in storage).
Did help me score brownie points once though. Shared a flat for a while with a flautist for the Sydney Symphony, and she's practicing one day when I said "ahh, that's Musorgski's Pictures At An Exhibition", to which her jaw hit the floor since she was already painfully aware of my typical music tastes. Poor thing wasn't really exposed to much prog in her world.
Spooky
I was only posting a link less than an hour ago for William Neal's website. The man who designed the LP sleeves for Tarkus & Pictures.
His description of where Tarkus came from...
http://www.williamneal.co.uk/
This year Pictures was played in , iirc,
part 2 of a Prom. The Beeb had Prokofiev's grandson (i think-no, not Mussorgsky's) present an interval account of all the many different arrangements. Was quite refreshing to hear ELP's as just another one, to be mentioned and discussed, neither bigged up as a novelty or scorned as a 70s relic.
And thanks for the Tarkus story Beany---another fact I didn't know I didn't know, but that's kinda what this site is for, eh ?
All together now ...
Actually, it's about time we saw this one again ...
Athlete
seem a hugely overlooked band of recent-ish vintage, which means we've got a chance to put it right. I re-listened to the "Tourist" album in the car this morning and it really is an excellent record.
Vehicles and Animals
Is fantastic.
Seconded
Saw them in the piddling rain at Glatonbury 2003. They pretty much made the sun come out.
Completely agree.
Whilst not as keen on their second album, this album; and "You've Got The Style" in particular were the soundtrack to my GCSEs. The title track is a fantastic song too, as are "Shake Those Windows" and "El Salvador" . It's the simple things, like the robot Stevie G draws.
Was a huge fan of the first two albums
...but the third was a bit Coldplay-lite and the latest I haven't even bought. Maybe I'll Spotify it now.
At this point can I mention
Yoko Ono?
Again!
Try the new album and work back. It deservedly got great reviews ... no, really ... come back ... oh, please yourselves ...
My usual suspect!!!
actually
I think it was you who turned me on to him. Certainly someone here. Did you write the review on the Word downloads page? I bought the download of his 'best of' on your recommendation. Can't pretend I listen to him a lot, but when I do I enjoy it. An original, an eccentric. At times childish at others child-like.
Kevin Coyne
I've been trying for ages to get hold of copy of "Looking For The River" from the Beautiful extremes etc.. compilation on Cherry Red...
I still have yet to convert anyone to the wondrous world of Kevin Coyne.
Man
The welsh wizards. Never kept the same lineup for more than 5 minutes and were terribly inconsistent, but when they were good they were GREAT.
The Nines
Calling Distance Stations is one of the best albums of the noughties no one else I know has heard of them nothing on you tube either
Josh Ritter
First saw him supporting Tom Mcrae (who probably also fits this category) years ago and have followed his career ever since; each album just gets better and better and his live performances are so warm and uplifting that I'll make sure I catch him whenever he's in London. He seems very Word-y so I'm surprised he's not been featured in more depth in the magazine (though I seem to remember one of his tracks appearing on the CD). Friends often have a listen and think it's just 'OK'... I believe he's popular in Ireland, whereas he usually ends up in support over here.
Any other Josh fans?
Me!
Fantastic isn't he? From the minute I heard the opening line of Kathleen - "All the other girls here are stars, you are the Northern Lights" - I was hooked. Saw him at the Bloomsbury Ballroom in London last year and it was every bit as warm and uplifting as you say.
New album on way soon according to his website - yay!
Kathleen
Quoted that line in my wedding speech - summed up everything.
very much so
Especially The Animal Years. He may be a 'new Dylan' but what ever is wrong with that? Girl In The War is my most played song in iTunes.
Me too...
Have seen him live a few times now and you're right, it's a very warm experience and he always looks like he's having the *best* time.
Mind you I'm actually a much bigger Tom McRae fan, I do now understand that his brand of somewhat bleak melancholy and acid sharp banter isn't to everyone's taste (although I've converted a few pals) but for me he's perfect.
Much better live
Ritter's album's are excellent but what adds the cherry on the top live is his sheer enthusiasm and general bonhomie that you just don't get on record.
McRae's a miserabilist in the true sense
Brilliant, although has never bettered his debut album, IMHO
Me Too!
I caught his last UK tour when he had Dawn Landes as support & was happy to see that they had since married [each other]. I like to think I contributed in some small way.
My Friends Are Great
But their musical taste is pretty much restricted to mainstream rubbish. After 30 - odd years, I'm beginning to think that I may be wasting my time, trying to turn them on to anything that isn't fairly mundane.
When I think of the hours spent mixtape making... (Sigh.)
Before you ask - it's not me - it's them. No question.
Diamanda Galas
Nobody likes her...it's sad.
She's impressive, in roughly
She's impressive, in roughly the same way that a hurricane is impressive, or a forest fire... but - like?? *Enjoy*???
Admittedly
The lady is an acquired taste.
"Double Barrelled Prayer" video
is free to download from Brainwashed Video Podcast - like a certain Brian Warner, she has a more distinctive visual style than musical appeal, I think.
The stuff she did with John Paul Jones
was good and pretty accessible by her standards. She's also done some pretty good covers like "I put a spell on you". Things like "Plague Mass" are a bit of an acquired taste - although like Scott Walker's Tilt and The Drift, they are an interesting listen. But I defy anyone to admit to liking "Schrei X" - an album of screams with titles like "Vein", "C*nt", "Smell" and "Coitum"
I long ago gave up trying to convert friends to
The Grateful Dead.
I am a mere dabbler in the Dead
I dig out 'Live / Dead', 'Reckoning' and 'American Beauty' on a reasonably regular basis. The rest I never return to. What would you recommend I revist?
Two spring straight to mind...
'Workingmans Dead' and 'Europe 72'
And...
...'Blues For Allah' and 'Wake Of The Flood'.
I (still) love the House of Love
It's safe to say that in the 21 years I've listened to them I have managed to convert not one single person. Everyone else is wrong.
I'm always putting Fade Away
I'm always putting Fade Away on compilations hoping someone will demand to know what album it's from. No one does.
Given that material from that album was almost completely absent from their reunion tour of a couple of years ago (as Terry Bickers didn't play on it), I think even HoL need converting to it if they're still around (are they?)
(We've exchanged posts about HoL before - I think you're the only other person on this forum who also likes the Babe Rainbow album...)
In fact
probably the only other person on the forum who actually owns Babe Rainbow. Don't know what they're missing. Remember David Cavanagh's sleeve notes for the Best Of when he said if you wanted to explain guitar music to an alien you only needed to play them Babe Rainbow. Agreed then. Agree now.
HoL and others...
Terry was at a barbecue I was at this "summer". Far too shy to talk to him...he was wearing a reflective Motorway Maintenance coat.
Ian McNabb/Icicle Works. Noone else seems to be bothered. I must have played his stuff at shrugging friends for the last 20+ years.
The Lord Mayor of Liverpool
I have converted a couple of ex-girlfriends to both The Icicle Works and Ian's solo output. Persevering with my current one too, got tickets to see him on the 2nd in Kilburn.
Check out his new cd - Great Things. Arrived in the post this morning.
Alex
No
I've got it as well, great album. Remember seeing them in Hull in 1989, they walked onstage to I Am The Resurrection - felt like a challenge, and they backed it up.
Amongst friends/family I am renowned
for having terrible taste in music. Most suggestions from me would have them running from the hills (I live in Sheffield). In particular I'm still banned from playing Killdozer out loud in the house - and there would be many more bands on the list if I were to risk it.
That's not to say I don't know people who share my taste, it's just that I know them because we share musical taste, I've not persuaded them.
My musical religion doesn't have a proselytizing element anymore
But I could never understand why so few people enjoyed the recently departed Broken Family Band as much as I did
Departed?
Bugger, I didn't know that.
Unfortunately so
http://www.thebrokenfamilyband.com/news.html
broke up?
the Broken Broken Family Band
I only know one song of theirs
and that's the one with the video of two men looking at each other for the entire song; unfortunately I can never remember the name of the song though. It's excellent, mind.
Nick Cave
ludicrous isn't it?
A group
On a venue website they are currently described thus:
Is it any wonder I don't usually get anywhere when I praise this band to high heaven. Not my words BTW but not far off. Better than Purple Spaceships Over Yatton Hitmakers for sure.
As is often my answer
Stiff Little Fingers
I've got people to appreciate some tracks, but never convinced anyone to enter into the SLF world I inhabit.
And NO-ONE I know has ever been convinced by Captain Beefheart
Not my all-time top band,
Not my all-time top band, but listened to them a lot in my youth and still have the first three albums. Also, they were one of the first half a dozen bands I saw live
One or two stubborn ones...
Van der Graaf Generator, of course - I was painting a wall and listening to a "Progressive" compilation I had put together for the occasion. "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" came on and I was threatened with ejection from an upper storey window by 'er indoors...
...and then there's Soft Machine.
I assume you told
her to paint her own wall?
Nah, nah...
Just put on some Fairport...and all was calm again.
I think I missed my
vocation in relationship counselling
I think my dad
is the only person I know who I managed to sell on Kit Hain's solo work, but she did a bit better with Dancing In the City and this one:
While hosting a barbecue recently...
...I made a compilation CD of what I considered to be some of the more accessible tracks from my collection. Things like:
Keep Love As Your Golden Rule - hal
La Realite - Amadou & Mariam
Loosey Girls - Amon Düül II
My Little Corner Of The World - Yo La Tengo
Nature Anthem - Grandaddy
Need You Around - Smoking Popes
Today - Smashing Pumpkins
Walt Whitman's Niece - Billy Bragg & Wilco
and many more, including several other tracks culled from the Word CDs.
The result?
"Turn that rubbish down!"
"Have you got any proper music?"
"How many more tracks?"
etc. etc.
Fortunately, I have long since developed a perverse pleasure in 'subjecting' more narrow-minded friends and family to various examples of 'proper music'.
Pub torture
We used to play a little game at our local where you'd take 50p and put the worst 5 tracks you could find on the jukebox. Given that the landlord was a Foster and Allen freak, it wasn't too hard - lots of obscure mining disasters and death. Still, that wasn't the worst. After the umpteenth play of Neil's "Hurdy Gurdy Mushroom Man" (remember when The Young Ones were funny?) and a Randy Crawford B side Blue Flame (I think), we were finally ejected. They don't make singles and jukeboxes like they used to.
That
is a parlour game fit for The Massive. I have a Spotify playfist along the same lines...
http://open.spotify.com/user/scenehitter/playlist/7teGvAGE3WCvJ1iXi3JFUa
John Otway doing Blockbuster
a modern classic !
Oddly enough the only Japan I like is from the first album - it all went too art student for my liking after that.
Really enjoying the list ....
Pub Torture —> Wyatting
Those Internet jukeboxes do offer new potential for that, though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyatting#.22Wyatting.22
Life's too short
I think the volume of bad material the massive could generate would be way in excess of anything I could possibly listen through, even supposing you would want to, specially at home on my own. At least the pub had mates and beer in it. Using Spotify and recommendations would be a spectacular piece of masochism....a 15 minute practical joke is one thing but I sudder to think what this lot might come up with.
Oh I agree
But sometimes really bad tosh makes up for the expensively produced pap that eminates from the airwaves and cheers me up sufficiently to stop me taking an axe to the goggle box.
moody blues
twee
fat blokes in frilly shirts
childrens story tales
naff etc etc
they dont get it -tough none of them can sing a minstrel's song
Stuff I love
but no one else seems to....
- The Odds - canadian alt rockers, I can listen to all their albums end to end and there's quality and variety right through, no filler. Not bad for 4 albums.
- Toad The Wet Sprocket - similar story, 'cept 6 albums including the B sides and Rarities album.
- David Baerwald - great writer, huge thematic range
The Replacements
Were my favourite band 20 years ago, but never had any success in persuading other people I was right. A few of their best tracks here:
http://open.spotify.com/user/dr.memex/playlist/5o5Rcq4ZpmaTl63NFkuV2W
I always preferred Paul Westerberg's solo stuff meself
Particularly 'Eventually'
Paul Westerberg's solo stuff
Was always a disappointment, right up until I stopped ritually buying it about ten years ago. 'Silver Naked Ladies' on his first solo album was the worst thing he's ever done. Did catch him playing a solo show on a boat in Glasgow about 1994, though, and he was fantastic, but mainly did 'Mats songs anyway
Have to disagree
14 Songs (which has Silver Naked Ladies) is pretty damn brilliant for mine, in a low-fi kind of way, which I arrived at through his couple of contributions to the Singles soundtrack which I love too. Can't claim to be an expert on the rest of his oeuvre though. Digging the Replacements Best Of too (i.e. not a fanatic as such).
Bruce Cockburn
Been touting him around friends for years to no avail... all I ever get is "Isn't that Adam Clayton..?"
ELO
This is the only place I've found anyone who will admit to liking them!
We all love ELO here
And the more enlightened amongst us also value Supertramp.
Espcially "Child of Vision" from Breakfast in America.
Supertramp
I love the song Easy Does It... concise, and a fantastic album opener. Underrated band.
Rev'rnd!
Josh Ritter
The man is a genius - love the line 'it's a long way to Heaven, it's closer to Harrisburg and even that's a long way from the place where we are now'. Saw him live for first time recently but regrettably it was as support for Ray La Montagne - will keep my eyes peeled for a full show of his own.
The genius I always try to recommend to others is Tom Russell - I consider him to be the greatests living Americanm asongwriter no less and is a brilliant chronicler of a bygone America.The album Hotwalker is a quirky snapshot of a life of hobos, misfits, hellraisers and details his friendship with Dave Van Ronk, Charles Buwkowski and the beat poets of 50's California. Some of it is narrated by the very characters that people his account of those times. I think it is indispensible in my record collection and the one album I would rush to rescue from a fire. His more mainstream song albums are also excellent but this is truly an original.
RT
Odd to say this here, where I am among musical friends, but literally not one person I know can bear to be within earshot of a recording by the estimable Mr Thompson. My suggestions that he is a genius, a giant among small talents, our greatest living songwriter, and can probably walk on water are met with something between mirth and derision. There are a couple of hold-outs who still think I am pulling their leg.
Most of my Music Collection actually
Most of family and friends just don't seem to be bothered with music with an often expressed view that if it's not on daytime R2 then it mustn't be any good.I am accused of being wilfully obscure in my tastes but there's little on my shelves that would be listened to by at least part of the massive
Some of the long list of those I love who cannot be played in company;
Willard Grant Conspiracy
Lambchop
Giant Sand
Wilco
Low
Steve Earle
Nick Cave
To name a few
Oddly my sister may become an exception, through a developing interest in newer folk acts like Kate Rusby, the Unthanks and Seth Lakeman etc. she has asked me to make her some playlists of older stuff by RT, Martin Simpson, Pentangle, Fairport, Martin Carthy etc. Jury is still out but there remains some hope.
Both of these last postings echo my experience
When I had my 50th birthday celebrations in the house 2 years ago I put my IPOD on shuffle on my Bose Sound dock. One of my oldest friends had the temerity to tell me that my musical taste was dreadful and there was nothing on my IPOD to dance to (wrong in so many ways). She then proceeded to ask if I had any Boyzone. My retort was that since I had 6900 songs from several different genres it was more likely that she had a problem rather than me.