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Ever Loved Elvis?
Posted by Cobweb Steve on 18 April 2010 - 11:49am.
Much like the Wonderstuff, I'm left cold by the hound dog hitmaker but I find it curious that I can't remember a single post on here about him.
I'm thinking that it can't be because he's American or too popular or been done to death (no offence) because people like Dylan, Springsteen & the HJHs feature here regularly.
Anyone care to share a reason/opinion/thought?
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I recall a fairly recent Elvis chat.
I like him.
Like most music fans I favour the early stuff and the '68 comeback.
Me too
Elvis '56 CD and the Comeback DVD set are all I need.
My theory.
We're of an age where we mostly meet Elvis second hand. By which I mean, while you do hear his music, at the same time you see an awful lot of kitsch, impersonators etc which can take a while to cut through. At least it took me a while. I don't think I "got" Elvis till I heard Aloha From Hawaii. And what I loved about that album was its sincerity. When faced with Elvis tat, the sincerity of his actual music isn't all that apparent.
I sort of see why Elvis is important
and like Adman cherish the brilliance of his early stuff and his '68 comeback the live version of "I Just Can't Help Believing" is a perennial.
However, like Gangle above - I find it hard to divorce the music from the kitsch, the black comedy of his demise and the unfortunate associations with some of the worst aspects of Americana.
I do "get" Elvis - and can see his monumental importance in the scheme of things but prefer to listen to others from the classic Rock and Roll period - particularly Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly.
I'm a fan
Because of all the kitsch/right-wing associations (not to mention several years of unbelievably bad film soundtracks) he’s been under-appreciated. The box set of his 70's work 'Walk a Mile in My Shoes' was a revelation to me.
When he was good he was unsurpassed for bringing excitement, drama, emotion and sincerity to the most average of material.
I'm sure he'll come back into fashion as is the way with these things. A 'real fan' archival DVD compilation along the lines of The Who's 'The Kids are Alright' would help. A carefully curated 'best of the best' instead of the endless biographical detail, (admittedly plentiful) dreck and over-exposed clips would blow minds!
Some of Elvis's stuff...
...is also some of the best pop music ever. I was born (shortly) after he died, and throughout the Eighties it was difficult to find anyone prepared to speak his name without laughing, it seems to me.
I honestly, fully and without a shred of irony ADORE a lot of his output. Like any big pop star, though, he had off years, and his descent towards elephantine, monged-out self-parody is best forgotten. Although I do sort of love that he apparently got a quote for a contract killing on Priscilla's lover (not the actual fact of it; just that he got a quote, like he was having his bathroom done).
I suspect that if I'd been an active music fan starting in the seventies and through the eighties, I wouldn't be remotely interested. People my age and younger are at more of a remove. We don't remember him actually releasing shit records, or dying. He's always had credibility for as long as I've been seriously listening to music, so I never felt there was a stigma - he is what he is. The King.
Someone I used to work with in radio...
once described the sensation of hearing Heartbreak Hotel for the first time when it came out. He was walking home from school when he heard its utterly bizarre and intoxicating sound coming out of his sister's open bedroom window. He told me it was as if the aliens had landed... his life exploded into technicolor in that very instant.
I think those of us born too late to have experienced Elvis first time around should try to imagine what it must have been like.
It wasn't John Peel
by any chance was it? I know he recalled the HH moment quite vividly.
I wish!
I only ever saw John Peel 'in the flesh' once, in Oxford Street HMV. He spent ages looking through the country CDs.
1956: a new dog's in town
From "Hot Diggity (Dog Ziggity Boom)"...
...to "Hound Dog"...
In summary - some good songs
When I was a child, in the 60's & 70's my only exposure to EP was his films during the morning during school holidays and they really weren't that good, and certainly not aimed at a ten year old. When I first started listening to pop music properly, the first Elvis record that I encountered was American Trilogy which I still think is dreadful. As a result, when he died I really didn't care, "No Elvis, Beatles or the Rolling Stones" was the order of the day anyway.
The first time I visited Memphis (in 1992) I went to Graceland (well, you have to don't you?) and realised how little I knew about the music of one of the most famous men in history.
I really enjoyed the television series of his early years on Channel 4 (I'd like to see it repeated sometime) but I don't think I really got into his music until I got a best of CD. I still think that's all I really need and even then it needs to be stopped well before it finishes (fortunately it's in chronological order!).
I'd like to say...
...what I said the last time this question came up.
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/has-elvis-left-building
In all seriousness
Elvis is far too easy, compared to The Beatles, to ridicule or pass off as irrelevant. In a career that spanned about three times the lifespan of The Beatles, he never wrote his own material, he made an awful lot of rubbish, he was a gross victim of fame before there really was such a thing, he spent rather a lot of time giving mediocre live performances in Las Vegas and he died bloated and well past his best.
I love his music. Not all of it. But the good stuff, of which there is a great deal, will be with me for the rest of my life. I'm far too old to be bothered with trying to convince anyone else that they have to feel the same way.
Loathed him as a kid
Growing up as a lad in the mid 70's, my main exposure to Elvis were his godawful movies that they always seemed to screen on TV during the school summer holidays.
I remember loving The Beatles back then for their songs and humour (and the Monkees of course), but just couldn't get Presley. I recall that the night he died, our tv had broken so all the family sat in the living room doing a giant jigsaw together, and listening to Radio Luxembourg. They kept playing Elvis songs as way of tribute, and if you've ever listened to Radio Luxembourg you'll know the signal keeps fading in and out, which made the Presley songs sound very ghostly indeed. Weird.
Bizarrely, I only eventually began to appreciate Elvis's merits from being a teenage Smiths fan. After hearing The Smiths cover His Latest Flame, I checked out the original which I loved, and grew to like and appreciate The King's legacy from there.
(oh to have a Tardis and go back to maybe '59 and rescue Elvis by shooting Colonel Parker)
OK, just one thing
Has everyone who champions the '68 Comeback ever heard what he did next? Because it's his greatest album.
http://open.spotify.com/album/4k2rriJGUVzAILDyOURuaG
That is all.
Yes
absolutely.
The only Elvis CD I own!
I know the rest from my mum's vinyl collection.
And the ballads
The later ballads he did are as great to me as the early rock n roll stuff. It is the sound of someone falling apart and unable to do anything about it whilst having the world in his hands. I too have been to Gracelands and found it a very moving experience even though in the scheme of things Elvis isn't one of my greats. He was a simple lad led astray by vultures. At heart he was a home loving boy. For example he created a grave for his born dead twin brother in the grounds. Excuse me, I have something in my eye.
Apologies and thanks...
It seems that I don't read as many posts on here as I thought I did - thanks Lucas for linking me to Dave's post and apologies for revisiting a subject so soon after it had been, erm, visited.
Cheers to all for sharing your thoughts. Despite my lack of enthusiasm for the man's work I'm strangely pleased to find that he's got so many admirers on the board - no idea why and I'm too tired to give it much thought.
Right I'm off to create a thread about The Fall, they haven't been mentioned on here for ages...oh, hang on.
For what it's worth
I am always up for talking about Elvis.