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Etymology...

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Yesterday I discovered an Italian verb that was new to me - 'tamponare', to plug.

Having made the connection between this and the wonderful world of biodegradable applicators, I stroked my chin for a bit and went "Hmm... interesting."

Has anyone else come across some other items of etymological interest?

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In a similar.. er... area

The word 'porcelain' derives from the Italian for 'pig's vagina' (due to the perceived resemblance of the porcelain shell to the aforementioned porcine nether regions).

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David Rothon | 29 July 2009 - 7:38pm

Peter

As in the French verb "to fart", from whence comes our expression "peters out". Sorry to any Peters out there.

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Twangothan | 29 July 2009 - 7:39pm

Interesting..

Since the name Peter derives from the Latin "Petrous" - rock-like.

And farts aren't solid.

Normally.

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Lenny Law | 29 July 2009 - 11:33pm

Le Petomane

One assumes 'peter' as a verb must also be behind the stage name of the Governor of the Guff, the Titan of the Trouser Cough, the Farter's Farter: Le Petomane, stage trumper of yore.

But did it also create a meaning to do with explosives? I remember reading that 'hoist by your petard' means 'blown up by your own explosive' and, in underworld slang, a dynamite wielding safecracker is known as a Peterman.

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Vernier Caliper | 30 July 2009 - 11:14am

Procastination

I'll tell you tomorrow.........

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Lunaman | 29 July 2009 - 7:46pm

Very...

good!

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Patrick Crowther | 29 July 2009 - 7:50pm

the greek dish "kleftiko"

which I had not the other day, means a "sealed" stew and has the same root as Kleptomania! Possible as it's linked to the "Klephts" brigands/freedomfighters who use to cook the stew in hole in ground in their mountain fastness.

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Chris G | 29 July 2009 - 8:22pm

This is a funny old site sometimes isn't it?

Re the applicator issue, see also the French 'tampion' - a stopper for the barrel of a gun or cannon; but probably not Tampere which is known as Finland's Manchester ... although now I come to think of it ...

Oh, and "phony" comes from 'fawney' which was slang amongst the non-Word reading underclasses of yesteryear for a painted gold ring as opposed to a real gold ring.

Will this do?

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Steven C | 29 July 2009 - 11:19pm

Marmite

From the French for a cauldron or large vessel. Marmiter is the French verb 'to bombard'. Not sure if this is because cannon balls were cast in large vessels or because the vessels were cast? Any other evidence?

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Badlands | 30 July 2009 - 12:26am

The label

There is a picture of a marmite on the label!

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Twangothan | 30 July 2009 - 1:41pm

Sabotage

From a type of French clog, a sabot; which the French equivalent of Luddites would throw into the new machinery to, errm ... sabotage it.

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keefus | 30 July 2009 - 12:36pm

eleemosynary...

...a completely new word to me - meaning compassion / mercy - derived from the older word 'alms'. Which seeing that I've worked for the charity sector for the last 20 years is a tad embarrassing.

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Bigsby | 30 July 2009 - 2:06pm

Anorak

I suppose all of these derivations seemed straightforward when the words were coined. It seems obvious to us now why the name for a hooded coat derived from an Eskimo (or is it Inuit) word is applied to the kind of person who goes onto a website to, er, discuss the usage of the word anorak. Maybe in a hundred years time it will appear a strange connection.

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Melville | 30 July 2009 - 5:04pm

Bumf

Unwanted paper, leaflets, pamphlets, etc.
Comes from the Tudor expression 'bum fodder' meaning the scrap paper fit only for wiping one's arse. In pre-bog roll England it was an important resource!

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Adman | 30 July 2009 - 6:36pm

Aubergine...

...originated from the Sanskrit "vatin-ganah" or "anti-fart vegetable"

Bungalow - How to finish a small house? - bung-a-low roof on it.

NB One of these isn't strictly correct. Back to Frank Muir...

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nicktf | 30 July 2009 - 9:41pm

So , nothing to do with Bangla

or house in Bengal style then?

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Badlands | 30 July 2009 - 10:35pm

I believe that could be correct...

Think bungalow is one of those words imported into English from the days of Empire.

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Adman | 30 July 2009 - 11:04pm

Er...

..no. The word "Bungalow" did indeed originate from India, and not my crap pun.

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nicktf | 2 August 2009 - 5:31am

I like

your version too!

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Adman | 2 August 2009 - 7:25pm

So did I but

I was just being pedantic.

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Badlands | 3 August 2009 - 11:32am

You are in the right place

and in good company!

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Adman | 3 August 2009 - 6:41pm

The Russians...

have a couple of crackers.

Their word for 'quick' is bistro - so named because the French-loving Russians discovered quick food in the so-named variety of cafes.

The Russian word for dumb is nemyets. The Russian word for German is nemyetski - Russians didn't think much of their Teutonic near-neighbours!

Finally - my favourite - in the 19th century, Russian engineers came over to London to see how the railways worked. They pitched up, of all places, at Vauxhall.

Thus the Russian word for railway station is now: vokzal!

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robram | 30 July 2009 - 9:51pm

I believe Aesop gave us "Sour Grapes"

It seems there was this fox that tried to get grapes from a tree but they were too high and he couldn't reach them. He eventually gave up and walked off muttering,"They're probably sour anyway"

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Cookieboy | 30 July 2009 - 11:30pm

If you were running amok in Malaysia

...they would catch you (and pin you to the floor with) with a fearsome tool that looks like a serrated pitchfork. I saw one labelled "amok catcher" in a Kuala Lumpar museum and had an "aha! That's where the word came from" moment.

We also aquired the word "Ketchup" from Malaysia, though originally it referred to a type of fermented fish sauce.

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nicktf | 2 August 2009 - 5:37am
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