bastard, but it's largely a sponsorship thing - Beckham, Terry and Ferdinand increase their value to sponsors by being the England captain, less so with Beckham probably. That's why Terry and Ferdinand are like two ferrets in a sack fighting over who should be the captain. A plague on all of them quite frankly though if I had to make the choice, I ould give Ferdinand the job irrespective of the fact that he walked out on Leeds United. At least he tries to give something back, Terry and his family are all takers.

And if you don't think this debate should be started, then why pursue it so vigourously here? You've made it absolutely clear in plenty of previous posts the low regard in which you hold England footballers, which is perfectly fine, but I don't understand why you keep returning to the subject if it bothers you so much.

I'd never reach from here, Lenny?

...and I thought we'd got over this.
HADN'T YOU?
When I step in a cow pat and my shoe smells I stop treading in the same cow pat. Why do they keep returning to the cow pat? You don't find that remarkable?

(PS 'low regard' really doesn't cover it)

...and select this team:

Hart
Johnson Ferdinand Ferdinand Cole
Johnson Gerrard Lampard Cole
Johnson Cole

Natch as we all know, Gerrard & Lampard in midfield doesn't quite work, so alternative suggestions welcome (and the keeper).

End of story.

should be picked each game. It's not a job, it's an honour and it should go to the most respected player in the 11.

The English are now 70% middle class. Bring on Ireland.