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Electric Eden
Just polished off this amazing doorstop of a book in three days in the incongruous setting of a poolside near Marbella. Know little of folk but was inspired to purchase by the recent podcast, for which many thanks. Best music book I’ve read in many a year.
Have always loved three of the artists covered in relative depth – Talk Talk/Julian Cope /Nick Drake – but most of the rest is entirely unknown to me. Have now revisited some long-ignored Fairport CDs and they’re wonderful, particularly Unhalfbricking. Have also been Spotifying – Heron, who I’d never even heard of, sound superb but others, the ISB for example, sound almost painfully of their time. Also feel I’m going to struggle with some of the more trad stuff but am excited about exploring the more prog/psych end – Trees, Forest, Comus, Kaleidoscope, etc. Plus, no idea why I’ve ignored Sandy Denny for so long – right up my street by the sound of it.
So much choice, so little time (and indeed money). What recommendations would the folking element of the Massive make for a beginner?
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Don't forget the music in the first third of the book
Vaughan Williams and the Copper family especially.
Its a vast area but for starters (not wildly psyche tho)
Davey Graham Guitar player and Folk blues and beyond
Incredible string band Hangman's beautiful daughter
Fairport Unhalfbricking and Leige and Leif
Third ear band Alchemy
Roy Harper Stormcock..for a more stoned ambience Jolkjokeopus
on the more hey nonny no front Anne Briggs has a voice that is unlike any other
and Shirley Collins and the Albion Country Band
And right at the moment I've been listening to Bill Fay. Time the last persecution. singer songwriter for the apocalypse. Which is bracing
Anne Briggs - "The Time Has Come"
This is the album you want:
She really was something else. The best article about her was Colin Harper's piece in Mojo a few years ago.
Seconded.
Start here, wander off in a thousand directions, and end here again. Marvel at her.
Marvellous
I'd heard of her via The Decembrists' Hazards of Love but never actually heard her.
As an aside, I looked her up on Wikipedia and came across this:
"She was rescued from this relationship by Hamish Henderson who accidentally bumped into her and invited her to join Louis Killen, Dave Swarbrick and Frankie Armstrong for a recording project. This resulted in the album called "The Bird in The Bush" which is still regarded as one of the best collections of traditional erotic folksongs recorded in the 1960s."
Now, what other "collections of traditional erotic folksongs recorded in the 1960s" was that up against I wonder?
That's very kind of you Duc...
...it certainly sounds like a really inspiring book, and maybe deserving of what I heard - from another author - was a quite staggering advance from the publishers. Though personally I think I'll not read it. Being involved with Brit-folky people is something I've consciously left behind. Just a personal decision. Headspace is happier in the world of the Mahavishnu Orchestra.
But Stimpy's right - make sure you hear Vaughan Williams' 'Fantasia On A Theme By Thomas Tallis'. And, yes, Anne Briggs too.
Aaah
So you're THAT Colin H.
I loved your Dazzling Stranger book. Quite moving, actually. Your description of Bert Jansch's "Jack Orion" album has contributed to it being one of my favourite albums. I saw Bert and Davey live in Edinburgh soon after finishing the book, and it was amazing to see two performers in the flesh so soon after immersing myself in their lives and music though your book.
I too have since left behind the "Brit-folky" pack for pastures new, but it's a fascinating corner of musical history which I'll no doubt go back to at some point.
Cheers!
The fact that I've said such things before here...
...in no way diminishes the sincerity if I say it again: thank you, Stephen. You're very generous, and it's appreciated. :-)
This is a very good place to start...
The 'Three Score and Ten' Topic Records retrospective - covers a wide range of British folk musicians over the last 70 years.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Score-Ten-Voice-People/dp/B002HRE0F0/ref=s...
If I were to recommend one British folk album to anyone, I'd probably go for Nic Jones' 'Penguin Eggs' - pure joy.
Nic Jones: "The Noah's Ark Trap"
And once your mind has been blown by Nic Jones's "Penguin Eggs", it's worth seeking out his wonderful "Noah's Ark Trap" album. It's not quite so easy to find, though.
Contains Nic's epoch-making reading of "10,000 miles".
Just Coming to the end
Three days? That is very impressive!
I've been lugging it around for a few weeks and am only now approaching the final straight. For the most part it's been great and it certainly brings a staggering amount of detail to a very open topic.
It gets a bit heavy and academic at times (don't be fooled by the friendly style of the opening chapter!) but I've really enjoyed the process.
It helps to read it alongside spotify. It's surprising how easily you can check out examples of the musical references the book makes. I'm familiar with many of the artists, but have also been introduced to plenty of others. (Bought a best of MR Fox from Itunes at the weekend).
I haven't quite got to the end yet but my current feeling backs up Jude Rogers review in the latest issue where she suggests that it is very English Centric rather than British. My own walk through the murky waters of "Folk" over the years has been heavily influenced by Irish and Scottish music. I'm not sure my experience is fully represented in the book's journey.
In its defence the book suggests that there has been a stronger musical heritage in Scotland / Ireland that the inhabitants have managed to hold on to without the need for the embarrassment suffered by the English over the likes of Morris Dancing.
That said, it seems wrong to suggest that Electric Eden is anything other than a fantastic achievement. I heartily recommend it and a big thanks to Word for the associated podcast.
For once, lots of time and no responsibility,
and I just got swept up in it...
One doubt I did have at the end however was how quickly it covered the last 35 years. Reasons of length possibly. But, even as a know-nothing, it seems hard to believe that in all that time so few took on the mantle. Billy Bragg (too urban maybe?) and the Lilac Time (specifically inspired by Nick Drake after all) both spring to mind as possible omissions. Perhaps it's just that the last few chapters do seem to be the most influenced by Rob Young's obvious preference for things 'experimental'.
I haven't skimmed to the end...
but I would expect the book to celebrate the likes of current bands such as Bellowhead who have really picked up the pace in traditional music. Do check them out on you tube (or better still beg, steal or borrow to get a ticket to see them!)
For me Bellowhead have fused a number of contemporary styles together but have remained absolutley true to traditional song and music. A fantastic live experience that is "too big" a sound to fit comfortably on any recording I have heard.
Seconded.
As a full-on folk-rock addict, I was thoroughly pleased with the Bellowhead album; it's in the car at this very moment, getting a thrashing and paying dividends.
Just discovered Current 93 after following folk rock psych for m
Current 93 is an eclectic British experimental music group, working since the early 1980s in folk-based musical forms. The band was founded in 1982 by David Tibet (né David Michael Bunting, renamed 'Tibet' by Genesis P-Orridge sometime prior to forming the group).
This version of the old ballad tamlin is great :
Also loads of the bands releases are on spotify Lucifer Over London is great as is Where the Long Shadows Fall
Gather In The Mushrooms
And 'Early Morning Hush' are two great psych folk compilations, well worth a purchase.
Last year sometime I posted asking for folk recommendations, and The Trees was one that I followed up. Good stuff, although a little stiffer than the Fairports, who are actually quite funky almost in that Stonesy sort of way.
Anyhow, I followed some other little paths and found out the ISBs were a huge influence on Boards Of Canada. So I took BoC, some modern folk influenced stuff - Tunng, and the Trees and Fairports Unhalfbricking and put them in a playlist. You'd be surprised how the four artists made for a very interesting listen, and how compatible they were.
Was about to mention '.....Mushrooms'
it's a very well put together compilation and tracks such as Graveyard by Forest certainly evoke the spirit of the age
Just leafing through it...
...Mr Young certainly takes an idiosyncratic view of things, his opinion of ISB for example is one that I cannot share. There's some great stuff in there, the antics of Peter Warlock in Eynsford, and some wonderful lyrical passages. He seems to take his pleasures in avoiding the mainstream however, and tends towards the kind of music that makes Circulus sound like Rammstein.
I quite enjoyed the "Folk is a Four letter Word" compilations, especially volume 2 (which has some belting Swedish Folk-rock on "Balladen om Belfast" by Midsommar) they are a few years old now so should be fairly cheap. There was a free Island comp with M*j* last year which may be knocking about somewhere.
As I say, I haven't finished the book yet, but if "Songs from the Wood" by Jethro Tull doesn't get a mention for example, then he has gone too far down the obscure ivy-strewn path to Feyland. That would be my #1 English folk-rock album.
More on Peter Warlock here:
BBC documentary on the composer here for the next couple of days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00t3z2c
Just about the best book on British music ever..
..it draws a longer bow than Mr. Harpers fine tome (..but indeed uses it as a source) and ressurects much that has been forgotten in Britain's endless and relentless stampede toward the new, and it's inexplicable disdain for its own folk music.
The best ever? I don't think so...
but, in its scope, ambition and breadth of coverage it's certainly up there in the top 5 along with:
Revolution In The Head and The Restless Generation
"The Restless Generation" by Pete Frame
What a terrific book this is. An absolute labour of love. I found it wonderfully evocative and hugely engrossing, despite the fact that it deals mainly with a genre of music that I'm not actually that interested in, namely early British rock'n roll.
England's Dreaming
If we're going for a top five surely we must include Jon Savage's England's Dreaming. Another book for whose enjoyment an interest in the music, punk in this case, isn't necessary.
His odd little diary entries and dream sequences spoiled
it for me. If I'm reading an allegedly definitive history of the Sex Pistols then I don't really care about the author's David Bowie dreams.