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Drum Fills and Rhythms that make a song

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I'm not a drummer, but there are drum fills that I love and to me make a certain song.

Like guitar licks, it could be that these are trademarks of certain drummers that they pull out to lift a track or give it that 'Je Ne Sais Quoi'

I was just posting in another thread and Earl Palmer's fills in the chorus of Tim Buckley's 'Tijuana Moon' came to mind. What Palmer plays stops the track dead whilst he plays a sort of syncopated fill, in time, before the rest of the band come back in. It oozes funk.

I haven't mined my memory completely, but another one that always slays me is the drum 'pickup' on Joe Ely's 'Cornbread Moon'. The song starts in a Train rhythm and then as the drum fill plays, lurches into a swingy shuffle - brilliant.

Sometimes it can be a part of the track - the drums on Ian Cutler's 'Azerie' play on the third beat of every bar for part of the song before coming back to 2/4 and it's just hypnotic. Not sure who's playing it - reminds me a bit of Dave Mattacks, talking of which, his Drums on Feast of Fiddles are majestic - particularly his cannon-like salvoes on 'Horses Brawl'

Vinnie Colaiuta is known for his sometimes off-kilter playing (most recently seen with Jeff Beck) - what he does on Robben Ford's 'Breakaway' (From 1988's 'Talk To Your Daughter') is awesome - playing with the beat, delaying it and building a great tension and funk (once again) into the song.

Steve Gadd's drum break on 'Aja' is relatively well-known - but is another good example.

Am I alone in this or do other readers notice this stuff?

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Fifty Ways To Leave Your Lover..

IS Steve Gadd's drumline.

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Lenny Law | 6 November 2010 - 8:20pm
stimpy | 6 November 2010 - 8:32pm

and don't forget

Steve's amazing fill at the breakdown of Chuck E's In Love by Rickie Lee Jones. He re-ignites the song with his incredible touch.

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Nick Duvet | 6 November 2010 - 10:02pm

It is. It is.

Stimps.. Is it one of those things which every drummer could do standing on his head but it took Steve Gadd to work it out in the first place or is it sodding impossibly complex so only a genius drummer can carry it off? Watching Steve Gadd do it, it looks so, so simple. But so it is with any genius that the impossibly complicated is made to look so, so easy.

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Lenny Law | 7 November 2010 - 1:02am

he makes it look easy

but believe me, it isn't. For a start, most drummers are not comfortable to play with their left hand on the hi-hat as Gadd does here. Billy Cobham mostly plays that way, and Lenny White also used to. Steve Gadd has a background in army bands so was well schooled in percussion from an early age.

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Nick Duvet | 7 November 2010 - 6:26am

I can play it from the chart

but it comes out nothing like Gadd. He has that indefinable something that makes it all seem so effortless. The left hand hi-hat technique is something that a trained drummer should have been taught, but your average 'three chord' drummer might struggle with.

Any technically competent drummer could play the notes in the right order, in the same way that any guitarist could play (ummm...) Since I've Been Loving You but it won't sound like Jimmy Page.

Gadd is technically a master but has that deftness of touch that sets him apart from the shredders. Think Richard Thompson vs Steve Vai. He's in a different league to 99.9% of other drummers and is (musically) everything I'd suggest a young drummer should aspire to be.

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stimpy | 7 November 2010 - 6:23pm

I love

That final expression. An understated 'how good am I?'

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fedoraboy | 7 November 2010 - 9:45am

If you want to learn to play it...

this is all you need to do :-)

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stimpy | 7 November 2010 - 6:20pm

Ye Gods...

...tha'ts just SO cool.

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Dadwardo | 13 November 2010 - 9:06am

Vinnie Colaiuta

How good is he? Well, unbelievable as this may sound, I'd nominate the single snare drum crash with which he announces his presence on Jennifer Warnes's superb First We Take Manhattan. I can't describe why, but it just sounds like the drummer really knows what he's doing. It's a stunning record all round, with exquisite guitar fills from Stevie Ray Vaughan. Here it is.

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Rosbif | 6 November 2010 - 8:26pm

Andy Williams' Drummer

Whoever it was, on Happy Heart -the choruses and the end, in particular.


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Buxton | 6 November 2010 - 9:09pm

Peter Gabriel's 'Intruder'...

just incredibly powerful and menacing.

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Patrick Crowther | 6 November 2010 - 9:35pm

Yep - Phil Collins on the drums, there

When Collins turned up at the studio to begin the sessions, Gabriel told him to put all his cymbals away. There isn't one cymbal on the whole of the "Peter Gabriel III" album, which gives the record its very particular drum sound. Good stuff.

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duco01 | 6 November 2010 - 9:45pm

Dave Grohl

Mr Grohl said that his approach to the drums for Nirvana was to play in a way that inspired other people to pick up a pair of sticks. I'd like to count myself amongst one of those he influenced. However, I'd say his best stuff is on Queens Of The Stone Age album Songs For The Deaf makes the album. Apparently he's said that he'd never been pushed so hard...the extra effort definitely paid off:

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Roo | 6 November 2010 - 9:58pm

It will come as no surprise that I agree.

I've posted it before somewhere, but probably my favourite drum moment of DG's is the b'da-da-DAH-dada fill going into each chorus of "Dive". It's not mad technical skill, it just sounds right, and gives me the fackin orn. "Appropriate" would be the word that a rather fabulous drummer of my close acquaintance might use.

Eh up Roo. ;-)

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Bob | 7 November 2010 - 2:13pm

Stewart Copeland

I couldn't decide which to pick, but went for this because the sixth comment down - "I stand outside of celebrities' houses and sing this song." - made me laugh.

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Helena Handcart | 6 November 2010 - 10:22pm

In Time by Sly

Andy Newmark on drums. Whenever I hear this track I only focus on the incredible drumming.

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Podicle | 6 November 2010 - 10:29pm

I like the drummer's little fills on...

... The Selector's "On My Radio."

It goes "rat-a-tat-a-tat-a, boom boom, tsch!!" Sort of.

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Billybob Dylan | 6 November 2010 - 10:33pm

brilliant

-you are absolutely right, sir.

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badartdog | 6 November 2010 - 10:41pm

you mean this!

Charley 'H' Bembridge on the drums

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Nick Duvet | 6 November 2010 - 10:47pm

Listening back to that..

Gosh. How tight? You couldn't get a fagpaper in there, could you?

Quality.

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Lenny Law | 7 November 2010 - 1:11am

I suppose these don't count

but I like 'em anyway:

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Black Type | 6 November 2010 - 10:41pm

Curtis Mayfield

Surely the grooviest man imaginable - Curtis Mayfield's bingo player, who must have the hardest thumbs in the business.

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PaddyH | 6 November 2010 - 10:45pm

bingo player?

'The midnight hour - Number 12'

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badartdog | 6 November 2010 - 10:59pm

Curtis Mayfield's Bingo Player

You have to have strong thumbs to use the dabber deftly across six books at the Mecca.

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PaddyH | 6 November 2010 - 11:08pm

Not the most obvious John Bonham beat....

and they don't come in until about a minute and a half.... but I love the drums on Led Zeppelin's "Black Country Woman". He doesn't hold back, he just takes over the song.

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Stephen Merrick | 6 November 2010 - 11:05pm

Obviously this...

Much repeated and sampled -

and more recently, I like this. Without the drums, it becomes a bit too shoe-gazey indie for my liking....

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Ravi Naik | 6 November 2010 - 11:29pm

As usual

Speed of Life from Low. Recorded 34 years ago and still sounding like the thumping heart of tomorrow. Dennis Davis and synthetic friends - take a bow.

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Sheev | 7 November 2010 - 12:57am

Joan of Arc (Maid of Orleans) - OMD

The drumming is very impressive in a live setting - but to see that you also have to see McCluskey flailing around inelegantly, so I will spare you that.

The drums seem mis-timed and strangely paced. Yet it works.

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Austin | 7 November 2010 - 1:52am

Sometimes the drums are the record

(if you see what I mean) :-

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Badlands | 7 November 2010 - 1:58am

What goes around and all that.

Great clip.

Lone Justice were brought to my attention by a certain M. Ellen of this parish. On a telly show involving aged whistles of a distinctly grisian hue and the analysis thereinsofar.

The fact that they - Lone Justice - subsequently failed to trouble chart compilers should not be held against him. That is Mr M. Ellen.

Lone Justice were a great, great band.

And Maria McKee still wants me. Massive.

Where was I?

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Lenny Law | 7 November 2010 - 2:21am

O/T Lenny, The Lone Justice 1st Album

was never off my tape deck(!) in the car in 1985-86 - drove my wife mad, but the trio of 'East of Eden', 'After The Flood' and 'Ways To Be Wicked' are as powerful a set of anthems as you could ask for driving down the road.
I literally played it until the tape stretched and wore out. Side 2 wasn't so shabby either - 'Wait Till We Get Home', 'You Are The Light' and Maria doing her Little Miss Dynamite on 'Soul, Soup And Salvation' being standouts.

And when it wasn't Lone Justice, I was playing 'Til Tuesday's 'Welcome Home' to death.

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Badlands | 7 November 2010 - 6:47pm

My C90..

Had 'Will The Wolf Survive?' by Los Lobos on the other side. It was played a lot.

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Lenny Law | 7 November 2010 - 11:48pm

Topper Headon


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PaddyH | 7 November 2010 - 2:12am

Unsung hero..

John Robinson knew how to lay it down in Rufus. For instance, here..

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Declan | 7 November 2010 - 4:06am

Rosanna

the Toto song has a distinctive drum track by Jeff Porcaro, who Steely Dan fans will know from his playing on the Katy Lied album.

Here Jeff shows how he stole the Rosanna rhythm from Bernard Purdie and John Bonham

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Nick Duvet | 7 November 2010 - 6:36am

Little Deuce Coupe

From the first second Dennis Wilson's drumming just pulls this glorious tune along. Not least because his style was not to cross his arms and it gave huge depth to his sound.

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clivetemple | 7 November 2010 - 8:06am

According to...

...David Leaf's sleeve notes for the Beach Boys reissues, on Little Deuce Coupe Brian Wilson 'had to replace Dennis' drumming on the record with Hal Blaine's. It made him sad to have to tell Dennis.'

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Inky Fingers | 7 November 2010 - 5:41pm
spt | 7 November 2010 - 3:28pm

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

Drum solo

Blumm-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-buddle-buddle-blumm-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum, etc.


Starts about 5 mins in.

Can I get an Amen?

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badger_king | 7 November 2010 - 3:58pm

Boring & predictable I know.

I think ringo's drumming on the fabs "A day in the life" is rather special.

the drumming in "Come together" isnt too shabby either.

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jackthebiscuit | 7 November 2010 - 4:33pm

Daytripper

Rain, and Tomorrow Never Knows are songs where the drumming just drives the thing along.

Not exactly a fill, but Bonzo on Rock n'Roll just IS rock and roll for me (other than that I don't particularly like Led Zep - I prefer Robert Plant's last 2 albums).

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paulwright | 7 November 2010 - 7:48pm

Fills? FILLS?

No other drummer could haul this juggernaut along in his wake so. In particular, the explosive ten seconds from 3.55 onward remain simply draw dropping.


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Bodhisattva | 7 November 2010 - 4:51pm

Juggernaut? How about a steamroller?

There's no other way to describe Bonzo's roll around the kit at 5:13

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Nick Duvet | 7 November 2010 - 9:09pm

Rick Buckler


the opening roll - magnificent.

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badartdog | 7 November 2010 - 5:49pm

Mr Barry White

At the start of his epic tribute to Disco "Let the Music Play". It just drives the song along. People forget he was a top-notch drummer as well as everything else.

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Richie B | 7 November 2010 - 6:20pm

Sammy Davis - man of many talents

I just saw this. Swingin, man

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Nick Duvet | 7 November 2010 - 9:22pm

The National's Bryan Devendorf

I only discovered the National a year ago, but one of the many things I love about them is their beats. They're not ostenatious or fancy, just interesting, different, and right...

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burncoat | 8 November 2010 - 12:42am
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