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Dreadful mistake or considered decision?

hargarino's picture

I did a thing today which didn't shock me until about five minutes after i'd done it. Bear with me. A good friend called to cancel an evening out and offered me an alternative. He spun it out as i swore at his unreliability but eventually he spilled his hand with not some small degree of triumph.
" Look ," he spoke with relish " I know it won't be the same but why don't you come down to London and see me instead . We could go and see" he paused the imaginary drum roll playing in his head, " Zeppelin!!" It was out, he'd said it.
"What?!?"
"I got tickets!! Man!" I don't know why he added the 'man'- he's in sales for god's sake. " So what do you say. What time will i see you next Monday?"
And here it is dear reader. I have been a fan for at least 30 years, i went to Knebworth, i wore a black armband to school when Bonzo died, lawks i even slept with my wife for the first time to Led Zep 2. What made me say "Na, it's alright mate take Warren. He lives in London and will love it." There was a bit of confusion as he thought he'd got a crossed line and then it dawned on him that i was saying No.
There was a couple of moments of embarrassed pleasantaries and we hung up.
I have thought long and hard about this. I love live music, more now than ever.So why did i say no. Not the scale- Roger Waters was great last year.No, I think it's because i don't think this will be a gig in the real sense; more an occasion. I don't want to spend the whole time turning round to tell people to shut the f**k up and listen. Have i cut my nose off to spite my face? Am i being a nob? Will i regret it?
Any views welcome apart from insults and maybe anyone else who has turned down the chance of something and been considered mad by his peers would like to contribute as i could use the company here in the stocks.

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I can see myself now

in 1988 saying to my Mum that, regardless of her spare ticket for Bruce Springsteen, I wasn't interested in coming along. What an idiot I was. If only she'd said "Look, I'll be dead in eight years and this is our only chance to go and see my favourite living singer - and someone that you will only appreciate after I'm gone - together. Why not come anyway?"

They say you should have no regrets. But it's difficult when you did the wrong thing.

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Lucas Hare | 6 December 2007 - 6:54pm

You're right

I was thrilled at the news of the gig - went to the web site to apply for tickets....then stopped.....my finger trembled over the mouse button - visions of having to shlep down to the bloody Dome mid week, the long journey home, the crap sound, Planty looking all saggy and not like the Golden God of yore, god knows if Jimmy Page can even play any more (he was always a bit dodgy live even back in the day)....

and I hit cancel. And went to see Jeffrey Foucault at the Ent Shed in Bedford which is a tiny shed (literally) on the side of a pub with a little stage and PA and loved every minute of it.

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Twangothan | 6 December 2007 - 7:02pm

So did i and Chuck Prophet

So did i and Chuck Prophet and Willard Grant and still had change from £30

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hargarino | 6 December 2007 - 11:49pm

Ent Shed

It's a great venue isn't it! East West Promotions do a good job. Did you see the "Wine women and song" tour? Sublime. Matraca Berg - sooo cool.

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Twangothan | 7 December 2007 - 9:53am

You've done the right thing

I have a feeling it will be hugely disappointing. Besides, they'll be on tour next year. Go then.

Here's something: in 1995 a load of us went to see REM at the Milton Keynes bowl. A fortnight later we all saw an REM tribute band in a small club in Colchester. You can guess which was the better night out.

The big gigs are so often a letdown.

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matthew | 6 December 2007 - 9:52pm

Dan

Yes! I saw the Steely Dan tribute band at the Stables and they were absolutely brill, and perfect for the small jazz club type vibe (this was the old Stables, not the new posh one) - then saw the real Dan at Wembley - they were fine but the horrible venue, parking, driving, shit sound etc ruined the evening.

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Twangothan | 7 December 2007 - 9:50am

Regrets? I've etc...

Not exactly on the same 'historical' scale, but no less knife edge, I bought a ticket for Crowded House at Sydney Opera House.

It was their last gig and a chance to say goodbye properly to some of the soundtracks of my youth before retreating to my CDs and memories of Paul Hester tripping over his snare during Sister Madly at the Hammy Odeon (it'll NEVER be the bloody Apollo to me, I'm afraid).

The ticket was a pain in the backside to get, and combined with the plane ticket and considerable inconvenience of travelling to the other side of the sodding planet, I had second thoughts almost immediately.

But I went, the gig was brilliant, if somewhat prematurely nostalgic. Yes, I dined out on it for many years. Being of a naive bent, it never occurred to me that Finn would reform the troupe, especially without Hester, put up the big tent and do it all again. In hindsight, I'm not sure it was the right move.

We can all be cynical about the reasons why our heroes renounce retirement; I appreciate the sentiment behind the concert for Ertegun, but come on, are you telling me there's no money on the rider? Who of any of us could resist the lure of doing something they loved just once more, given the chance?

So it's a toss up; do you go and see Percy's voice break in Immigrant Song to say you were there, or do you remember when Zep were the finest thing on 8 legs?

Haven't we expunged this nostalgia thing from our collective conscience yet? We've got Human League and most of their 80's compadres playing Daventree Legion and the Todmorden Nutbowl, and, the biggest joke of all, the Drolling Gnomes are STILL desperate to be taken seriously before each evening's bed bath. What next? Oasis announce anniversary Wonderwall concert? The Roses play Wormwood. Enough!

I didn't buy a ticket for the House this year, though the album's good and I wish them well.

You made the right decision; live music's not a history lesson, it's about heart in mouth, hands in the air, losing yourself to the moment you know won't come again.

P.S. Anyone else think Oasis were just a joke tribute to a local Mancunian three chord bar band that got out of control?

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Oeufman | 6 December 2007 - 10:05pm

Thanks for that

Yeah i think i know i have but can i just say that at a Crosby and Nash gig at the sodding Festival hall of all places it was so good that i wept - twice. Maybe it's the simplicity or purity. I just can't see it being a blinder.
I hope they prove me wrong.

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hargarino | 6 December 2007 - 11:52pm

C&N

Thing with Crosby & Nash is they've always kept their hand in.

I know the Zep boys have done their own stuff, but they've come across each other on a stage about as regularly as Bush reads the Khoran; C&N have performed regularly..ish.

Wish I'd been at the Festival Hall. What voices.

Still(s), no need to torture yer'self; the deluxe DVD at just £499.99 will be on the shelves before the gig's finished.

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Oeufman | 7 December 2007 - 12:38am

C(S)N

Didn't see Cros and Nash and I can believe they were good - but my oh my CSN were a disappointment last year - I guess the singing was OK but why did they feel the need for several keyboard players, drummers, 6 guitarists etc - I think there were 12 of them on stage. All of whome had to have solos etc. Surely given athay all three of them were playing the guitar all they needed was a drummer and bass player?

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Twangothan | 7 December 2007 - 9:49am

i agree with most everything you've said

apart from the bit about Crowded House; you *should* have bought a ticket for a gig this time around...apart from missing Paul H, they're still great, and if the onstage banter in Dublin was anything to go by, as funny as ever!

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ivan | 7 December 2007 - 11:01am

Jeff Buckley

Turned down a ticket to see Jeff Buckley in Bristol early 1995, chose instead to go to the pictures with my then girlfriend. Thought I'd get another chance to see him. Regrets? I've had a few.......

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Steve Hill | 7 December 2007 - 11:56am

i'll mark meself out as a heretic here...

but tell us what movie you went to see and we can judge whether you did the right thing or not. If memory serves, Die Hard with a Vengeance came out in 1995, and it was great fun...

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ivan | 7 December 2007 - 12:14pm

II Think I saw....

Not sure...I Saw Twelve Monkeys and The Usual Suspects in the cinema at Bristol with that ex, but I also saw Judge Dredd...

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Steve Hill | 7 December 2007 - 12:31pm

Bugger

Free tickets to see Nirnana on the Nevermind tour, small venue (about 1500 people), big raves on shows leading up the week or so before... friend I was going with got sick, I couldn't really get the urge to go.

Regrets? Have a guess...

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Sam Fiddian | 7 December 2007 - 12:08pm

Application Denied

I was at Earl's Court in '75 and Knebworth in '79, and I just had to enter the ballot for the 02. Unsuccessfully as it turned out, and you know what? My overwhelming feeling was one of relief.

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Philip Bryer | 7 December 2007 - 12:17pm

The drums, the drums…

For years, whenever the subject of concerts came up in conversation with friends and talk would turn to who they'd seen or not seen, it was always the same 2 bands that I'd express regret for missing when I had the chance - Talking Heads and the Police. And, putting aside their very different styles of music for a moment, I realised that a large part of what attracted me to both of them were the rhythm sections, particularly the drumming and the space and openness of their sound.

Then suddenly, the long believed "missed opportunity" became achievable - the Police had reformed, are touring and the first reviews are very good!
I immediately bought tickets for Munich's Olympiastadion - not the greatest venue, but so what - the sound-system is OK and I certainly wasn't going to let this chance go by.

The September evening was cool but dry and the buzz of expectation was infectious.
Almost too much so.
It quickly became obvious that for many people present it was almost irrelevant whether the band would be good or not, they were seeing the Police.
The band came on, said hello, played all their hits, played an encore and everybody went home happy… almost everybody.

This wasn't the Police, this really was "stadium rock", like listening through the wall to your neighbours stereo - you can hear everything but it's all mixed up together. The space around the instruments, the lightness of touch, the dynamics - in effect the essence of the Police - all lost in the big sound.

Too much to expect from a stadium gig? Maybe, but I've seen enough concerts in stadiums to know that it can be done better.
Listening to the radio on the way home, the presenter enthused about the gig and how just 3 men could sound like so many… and I kept asking myself why 3 men needed to sound like so many?
Even though I am sure the majority enjoyed themselves, I certainly wish I hadn't gone. And if I hear on the radio tomorrow that David Byrne has been seen talking to Tina Weymouth then I'll have to think seriously about going into hibernation with my iPod until the danger has passed.

I think we all need to treat our memories of "missed opportunities" with more circumspection and enjoy them for what they are. While still a dream, they let us return regularly to our music collection and our younger selves and generate a warm feeling of time & place tinged with a dash of regret. But once realised (much like meeting an old girlfriend) the treasured memory is almost certain to collapse under the weight of its own expectation and then it's gone, forever.

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David Weeks | 7 December 2007 - 1:47pm

Right decisions

You've done the right thing, Hargarino. You wouldn't be going to see Led Zep - you'd be going to see some old blokes trying to recapture what they once had. And failing. You're bang on about the 'occasion' - it won't be a gig, it'll be a freakshow. If they were playing a smaller venue or if it was guaranteed that the audience would have a bit of respect then I'd say go, but this will be necrophilia when it should be necromancy.

Much better to imagine how brilliant it could be than actually having to be present at the awful reality.

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Con Coleman | 7 December 2007 - 2:35pm

I understand

I absolutely adored the Police in my younger days and so wanted to see them live, but never got the chance.

And now I am old enough to know where to get the tickets and have the money to afford them (just about) and I decided not to.

I wanted to see them then, not now when they've barely spoken for years, Sting has disappeared up his own ego and I would probably be miles away from the stage...

And they'd probably only play hits and no fun extras or slightly obscure album tracks.

And I'd be surrounded by people talking or waving bloody mobile phones.

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Em | 7 December 2007 - 2:45pm
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