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Dougie Anderson mounts stout defence of Belle and Sebastian, Alex Harvey, John Gordon Sinclair and more

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ImageDougie Anderson, Scotland's 26th Most Eligible Man, has been round the world with Konnie Huq. He's covered Crufts with Claire Balding. He's played the part of Belle and Sebastian's manager in a film. He's one of the regulars on Five Live's Fighting Talk. He can sing Scotland's last decent World Cup Anthem. He's a regular reader of the magazine. This week he completes his ascent of Mount Media with an appearance on the Word podcast.

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Even as a Sassernack (sp?)

i thought it was ace (although I was 9 years old and as of today, had no interest in football)

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DogFacedBoy | 12 October 2010 - 8:39pm

Good stuff

I like Dougie on Fighting talk and to find out he's a member of the Massive just confirms that he is a top bloke. The Steve Lamacq/Backwards 7 britpop piece is up there with the Danny Baker podcast. My cap is Doffed to all concerned.

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Sour Crout | 12 October 2010 - 6:50pm

My mind could be at fault...

(I am old and it was 34 years ago) but I seem to recall that AC/DC's first UK single, 'Jailbreak' from 1976, had a B side called 'Fling Thing' that featured the bagpipes.

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Billybob Dylan | 13 October 2010 - 6:40am

Now Now

Ellen and Hepworth, stop ganging up on the guests, this isn't the Moral Maze you know. 'Your witness...'
Fraser will have to send you both for a runaround in the park just before the next podcast.

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Paul Bernays | 13 October 2010 - 12:59pm

"In it goes to Dalglish...."

The best football record of all time, bar none.

Seriously. I love this. Rod appears to have distanced himself from it over the years and as far as I know it's not available on any of his albums (even the box sets). But as an Englishman I think it's great.

The lyrics are comedy gold (not to mention wonderfully jingoistic) and it's even got a snippet of the legendary Archie Macpherson's timeless commentary.


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mojoworking | 13 October 2010 - 10:30am

I haven't listened to the podcast yet

but bringing in someone to defend Belle & Sebastian in the same week the mighty Glaswegians release a new record sounds right up my street.

In fact, I've been thinking about this, and I'm notoriously slow at reading the signs, but I have to ask: The Word, are you trying to chat me up?

Don't think I didn't notice what you sent me in the mail this week with its accompanying letter. We seem to share a lot of the same interests, like the same bands and have similar opinions and outlooks on life. I really think this could go somewhere...

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Joe R | 13 October 2010 - 11:17am

A retraction

Having listened to the podcast, I've learnt that The Word doesn't actually like Belle and Sebastian.

I'm sorry, The Word, I don't think this is going to work out. It's not you; it's me.

I think we should see other people


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Joe R | 14 October 2010 - 11:56am

Funny Little Frog in My Thro-at

Gentlemen, the song 'Funny Little Frog' by B&S, as mentioned disparagingly in the podcast as evidence of their tweeness, isn't literally an ode to an amusing amphibian.

"Funny little frog" is in fact a quote from Nic Roeg and Donald Cammel's 'Performance' - it's how Turner/Jagger refers to Michelle Breton's character. Because she's odd. And small. And French.

Also, that song features one of Stuart Murdoch's most brazen rhymes, namely "poet", "court" and "throat". And it works! Amost. In any case, it's up there with his rhyming of "Tokyo" with "Thin Lizzy-O" in 'I'm a Cuckoo' (which isn't a song about a man who thinks he's a cuckoo).

As you were.

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paulwhitelaw | 13 October 2010 - 1:50pm

He didn't really defend them though

And the astonishing revelation that "The Stones were only good with Mick Taylor" is getting a bit old. Otherwise fairly enjoyable and I liked Mark's mugging story.

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dai | 13 October 2010 - 2:58pm

Wow!

This guy's a serious 60s dodger if he said that!
Erm.......Brian Jones, beautiful people, swinging 60s, good hair cuts, great clothes......ring any bells?

'Sweeping generalization coming up alert' but I have to say that when it comes to music criticism I've always found the Scots to be very, very fundamental and predictable in their opinions (i.e. far more likely to quote the predictable NME route of The Smiths, Joy Division, Iggy view of pop music's history than the average Brit).
Mind, I still prefer their football team to England.

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ranger | 21 October 2010 - 7:20am

Well, I can't claim to speak for my whole nation,

but this Scot has a fundamental and predictable opinion about your sweeping generalisation!

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Gauntlet | 21 October 2010 - 7:53am

Actually, I think it's fair comment

As a Scotch-man myself, I think there's a couple of things which can lead to this (admittedly generalised) position:

- the willingness of (certainly West Scotland) Scots to pick up American influences, eg the popularity of country music, the particularly enduring appeal of Presley & Sinatra, etc

- the fact that Scotland is actually a pretty small place demographically: about 80% of the population lives within 25 miles of either Glasgow or Edinburgh, so a "trend" across the two biggest cities actually has the potential to cover most of the country.

I've certainly spotted the late 1960s US obsession among my fellow countrymen, but wouldn't have known that English music fans of the same generation weren't so fixated - I'll need to take your word on that!

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Douglas | 21 October 2010 - 8:37am

He didn't get much of a chance.

Hepworth and Ellen! If you insist on having guests sometimes you need to shush up.

That is all.

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ganglesprocket | 21 October 2010 - 8:19am

One at a time!

Must admit, i've been listening through all the back catalogue of podcasts since coming onboard a month ago, and am loving them. BUT - three people talking at once on a podcast does not for comfortable listening make. There are times when letting a guest (or colleague) say their piece would be the more audibly aesthetic and polite thing to do, even if your own anecdote seems more exciting! Quite frequently I have had to shout "one at a time" to the car stereo, in amongst laughing and smiling of course...

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leightonsmog | 16 June 2011 - 9:45am

Better everyone

talking at once than awkward silences.

I like the loose feel of the podcasts, even when they degenerate into rabble. They remind me of a dinner party with close friends.

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mojoworking | 16 June 2011 - 9:51am

It's a deliberate choice

We either give everyone headphones so they can hear what things sound like - at which point the talking over each other vanishes, but so does the energy that makes the podcast work in the first place - or we don't, and we keep the energy up, even if it means things can get a little boisterous from time to time.

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Fraser Lewry | 16 June 2011 - 10:02am

I thought I'd lost interest

I thought I'd lost interest in B&S until I listened to "Fold your Arms Child, You Walk Like a Peasant" for the first time in ages last weekend. It's great! I'm back on board.

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scottrae | 13 October 2010 - 3:43pm

That's no the ball yer kickin' ya eejit, it's ME!!!

Oh, and Dougie's right - 'We Have a Dream' by the Scotland World Cup Squad FEAT John Gordon Sinclair (or was he Gordon John Sinclair in those days) is one of THE best World Cup singles ever. Written by BA Robertson, of course, as everything was at the time.

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paulwhitelaw | 13 October 2010 - 4:18pm

I'm with Heppo on B&S

...especially his comment about not being able to hum or recall a single tune of theirs. I wrote this a while back about The Boy With The Arab Strap (before Latitude, obv) and it sums up my views of the album (and the band) quite well, I think...

Headlining Latitude this year (somehow!) and therefore quite topical at the moment. Now I'm as fond of a bit of fey Northern/Scottish indie as the next man, and I love the likes of Orange Juice, Aztec Camera, Prefab Sprout - even pre-electro Everything but the Girl - but even I have to draw the line at Belle & Sebastian. I have tried - really tried - to get into this album, but whenever I play it, I get to the end of the album with the realisation - again - that not a single note of the album has managed to imprint itself on my brain. I've owned this album for the best part of ten years, I think, and even now I couldn't name a single track or hum a single tune. I know people love them to death, but they are as insubstantial as a fine mist.

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Paul Waring | 13 October 2010 - 6:47pm

No memorable melodies? Baffling, sir, baffling.

Belle & Sebastian's back catalogue is absolutely awash with memorable, catchy melodies! Visit Spotify and try these tracks for size:

She's Losing It
You're Just a Baby
Get Me Away from Here I'm Dying
Judy and the Dream of Horses
Lazy Line Painter Jane
The Boy with the Arab Strap
Legal Man
I'm a Cuckoo
Piazza New York Catcher
Dress Up in You

Every one a gem (that's not a song title).

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paulwhitelaw | 14 October 2010 - 11:14am

They are a bit...

well....they smirk.

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Chimney Singing... | 14 October 2010 - 1:38pm

and there are a lot more

The B&S back catalogue is full of gems - start with Tigermilk or Sinister and get drawn - they don't turn up in lots of best of lists for nothing.

I actually thoguht the podcast was really funny - not least because of the dilike of B&S after giving them two pages in the new edition and sponsoring Lattitude which B&S headlined. Still all the more credit for being broad minded.

Back on the subjetc of the podcast Dougie A was really good - well worth a piece in a future edition of the mag.

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grahamt | 16 October 2010 - 8:12pm

Stephen Pastel

is still available for viewing by any die-hard Pastels fans. Yes he ran the record concession stand in the bookshop in Byres Road (now a Starbucks, of course). But now he runs Monorail, the best record shop in the city IMHO, and also the venue for the first Glasgow Word Massive Meet.

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Douglas | 13 October 2010 - 9:55pm

Pictish Trail

Dougie's flipping well right about the beauty of that Pictish Trail song I Don't Know Where To Begin. Spookily enough I'd been playing it all week and then it gets mentioned on the podcast. Seek it out - it's gorgeous.

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Nige Tassell | 13 October 2010 - 11:22pm

I was genuinely curious

about who the first 25 most eligible men in Scotland were... Dougie, you were robbed. Should have been an honourable second place to the lovely James McAvoy.

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Gauntlet | 13 October 2010 - 11:46pm

I welcome the panels

views on Primal Screams Euro 96 record.
Which was controversial when things like that happened.


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Chris G | 15 October 2010 - 11:40am

That record encapsulates all of the reasons...

... why I despise football. It demonstrates how the fans of the game in Scotland are a lumpen bunch of witless bigots who, if you are unfortunate enough to spend enough time with them, will succeed in poisoning an entire sport by making normal people equate it with religious intolerance. Years of listening to this crap like this spouted by idiots sent me to books.

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ganglesprocket | 21 October 2010 - 8:59am

Careful

There are several Scottish football fans who are regulars here, and I wouldn't describe them as witless bigots from what I've read.

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Fraser Lewry | 21 October 2010 - 9:11am

Too long spent in the real life company...

... of witless old firm bigots has soured me. And that is a sour bigoted record. But I do apologize if any massive person thinks I have gone too far.

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ganglesprocket | 21 October 2010 - 9:21am

I love the word podcast

What a brilliant podcast this week - it's like getting a phone call from your best mate.

On the 'cast this week - mugging; similar thing happened to me in Glasgow last year, so the Scottish accent was null and void.

Belle & Sebastian - I have to agree with Messrs. Ellen & Hepworth on this one; they're the kind of band people like if they want to look cool, even though deep down they know the music is a bit inoffensive and bland. It gets by the 'shite' radar because they're all a bit 'art school' and never crossed over into major commercial (i.e. lots of money) territory.

Also - the best World Cup song for Scotland by a country mile:


Justin Currie - one of the finest songwriters Scotland has ever produced. He could write B&S under the table.

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slartybartfast | 16 October 2010 - 10:49pm

Here's the AC/DC clip mentioned

AC/DC - It's a long way to the top if you want to rock & roll, on a flatbed truck, in Melbourne

Excellent podcast!

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el hombre malo | 17 October 2010 - 1:48pm

adjective

I'd like to thank Heppers for the adjective that had eluded me when belle and sebastian are mentioned - simpering - quite.

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Junior Wells | 18 October 2010 - 12:16pm

A return to form, thanks

Dougie get's onto the subs bench for my fantasy dinner party (Scottish version: People who aren't dead yet).

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clivetemple | 21 October 2010 - 6:24am

Nice to have my Belle & Sebastian view confirmed

Just catching up on a couple of podcasts so bit late to respond to the Dougie episode but how refreshing to have a prejudice confirmed. I've got a couple of B&S CD's and have had them on in the car, on the plane (as in iPod rather than asking my pilot to put them on the PA), in bed, over dinner and once after midnight in complete darkness without any distraction to see if I was missing something. Now I like bedwetter music with the best of them but 'simpering, smug smartarses' is spot on. So it was nice to be able to drop them into the charity shop this morning with a clear conscience knowing that I wasn't giving up anything special. Their rounding on whoever that nice chap was who introduced them at Latitude was the final straw - although it was a wnderful irony after Hepworth and Ellen so wonderfully sod him the whole concept and how you can't go wrong if he followed their simple rules. Without wishing to sound like a Steve Wright listener - keep up the work - podcast unmissable, magazine wonderful, Mossman laterday version of Joan Bakewell.

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stubbocruz | 28 October 2010 - 4:39pm

Not two camps on Belle & Sebastian, three

Belle & Sebastian have deteriorated with every release. Their last three albums are nowhere near as good as their first three albums - for me and, I suspect, very many others. Tigermilk and ...Sinister are both flawless.

I suspect ME & DH think about the ironic 70s sitcom theme tune styles of recent singles and are judging them on that.

How anyone who likes British guitar music can dislike The Boy With The Arab Strap and I Don't Love Anyone and Judy and the Dream of Horses is beyond me.

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kb | 2 November 2010 - 6:55pm
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