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"Don't be stupid, no player is worth that."

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Ralph Coates died today. Not a household name but an honest-to-goodness, hard working, miles better than average player for Burnley, Spurs and Leyton Orient. Plus England on 4 occasions. He was signed for Spurs by the great Billy Nicholson and "Don't be stupid, no player is worth that" is what Ralph is said to have said when Billy Nick announced he was going to fork out £190k in 1971 money for him. (That's about £1.8m in 2010 cash.) I wonder if there are many Premiership players with that level of modesty / humility / reality left in the game? RIP Ralph.

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Ralph Coates

Always sad to hear of a good, honest pro passing away. Sadly, I expect he'll be remembered more for his hair than his talent by the majority of casual football fans.

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Baz | 17 December 2010 - 4:31pm

True, dat

I immediately thought of the hair.

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Fraser Lewry | 17 December 2010 - 4:42pm

Ralph

Indeed. Remember him this way …

http://open.spotify.com/track/2HU3PhdkQs0NbICCpRohxn

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Martin_Horsfield | 17 December 2010 - 4:54pm

He was one of those rarities

A one club man. I always have respect for players that are loyal.
This kissing the badge and pissing off the next week gets on my thru'pennies!!
(When I say one club I meant he didn't bugger off somewhere else for the money!)

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Gordon Kerr | 17 December 2010 - 6:16pm

a pedant writes

Burnley, Spurs and Leyton Orient actually. Sorry.

I remember seeing him play for Burnley in the late '60s.

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cradlerock | 17 December 2010 - 6:22pm

another pedant replies

I take your point. As I said in my edit he wasn't a mercenary like today. He plied his trade and was loyal to his employers and was one of those players when returning as the opposition was given a warm welcome.
you know a bit like Cashley Cole when he occasionally turns up at the Emirates!!

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Gordon Kerr | 17 December 2010 - 6:35pm

What a shame

He was a real footballer.

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cradlerock | 17 December 2010 - 6:17pm

Reminds me of

when I was reading the Big Sam thread. I'm still amazed that the same guy whose football card I could never swap in the school playground (because he was a big ugly centre half who played for Bolton now gets paid millions to leave footbal clubs

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STD | 17 December 2010 - 6:55pm

Ralph Coates

R.I.P leaving a trail of defenders lying and strands of hair flying in his wake

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Sheev | 17 December 2010 - 8:26pm

I remember reading...

...lotsa years ago- it may have been in the Hunter Davies book about his year he spent with Spurs- that at the end of every training session, the first team squad had to juggle the ball over the breadth of White Hart Lane, without the ball touching the ground. Now, apparently Mr Coates could not master this skill, much to the chagrin of his fellow team mates, until he discovered a new technique. He would balloon the ball 20 yards up, 30 yards in, then then catch it on the volley and boot it over the sideline. Job done. One end of the pitch to the other, ball did not make contact with the grass!

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geacher53 | 17 December 2010 - 10:43pm

He was out on the pitch at half time ...

... just a few games ago. Saw him score the winner against Norwich in the League Cup final 1973. Also remember him getting a cracker against Liverpool to win the game one wet Wednesday night at WHL when we were fighting relegation. He was always smiling, Ralphy.

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Johnny Topaz | 17 December 2010 - 10:52pm

RIP Ralph

There remain one or two current players with a similar down-to-earth mentality - Ronaldo and Tevez (kidding!).

Actually, I'd suggest Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes as model, loyal, one-club professionals.

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Black Type | 18 December 2010 - 10:56am

Definitely

Although I believe Scholes has always planned to finish his career at his beloved Oldham Athletic, once United let him go.

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Spartacus Mills | 18 December 2010 - 11:05am

I'm never quite sure...

...that 'one-club' should be used as a mark of a 'gent' and a good sort (of course for Giggs and Scholes that is true).

It can also show a lack of ambition or people who are perfectly happy to hang around getting paid not to play.

Many players have managed to be 'legends' at more than one club, but that doesn't make them any more mercenary or less loyal, necessarily.

Anyway, RIP Ralph Coates.

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JoLean | 18 December 2010 - 11:52am

Lack of ambition

was probably a factor in Le Tisser's case. But that doesn't bother me. We can't all be strivers and go-getters. Some people are just happy where they are.

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Spartacus Mills | 18 December 2010 - 11:57am

Good point

I would cite Matt Le Tissier as a good example of this. A truly fantastically-gifted player who left some great memories, but you have to wonder what he might have achieved with better quality players around him. Would he have thrived, literally kicking on to achieve true greatness? Or would he have been intimidated by the presence of equally good players or the pressuresand expectations of a bigger club?

One of the great debates...

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Black Type | 18 December 2010 - 11:59am
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