... when it get's in the way of his enjoyment of hearing the sound of his own voice?

The breakfast show is all about 'entertainment' but not 'music' alone - presumably as a way of waking up the audience for the day ahead. Anyway, your not missing much on day-time Radio 1 - it's pretty much the same as the commercial radio stations you hear up and down the land.

I'd disagree that it's conversation on Radio 1 - it's just being talked at. Radio 4 is slowly becoming a greater part of my listening life (all be it from a low base) with the various podcasts they offer - and it feels as though you are being treated as an educated human being - rather than a lazy child.

Not having a job that involves sitting around all day listening to music, I don't usually get to hear much daytime radio - but blokeish / ladette banter still seems the order of the day. It's not just Radio 1 either, there's the much celebrated (joke) George Lamb on 6Music.

With deregulation and the rise of the internet, pop music has diversified and can now be categorised into helpful, specialist genres and sub-genres, which have their own shows, DJs and stations. As a result, new music is more likely to divide the masses than it is to unite people, unless it is the lowest common denominator pop of say Oasis, Leona Lewis or Snooze Patrol. Hence, and I'm getting to my point, it's far, far better for the listening figures to have some blokeish/ladette DJ engaging in endless supposedly amusing banter than to play new records, that a small proportion will really like, but will have many switching over in their droves. FM/DAB radio as an audio screensaver, if you like. It's the Rise of The Idiots. Life imitating Nathan Barley.

So, my question for you is: Define pop?

(Obviously, it's a trick question, as it's self-defining).

I can't face Moyles on a morning but sometimes flick over when Wogan does his stupid "innuendo" stories about 8.25. Normally it's Radio 4 from 6.30 to 7.30 and a "music" station on the drive to work. You can guarantee Moyles will be talking when you tune Mind you, hearing his voice is slightly preferable than the music Radio 1 play. (Apart from some evening shows). The funny thing is, when Moyles is away on holiday, his stand in talks nearly as much. The public gets what the public wants I suppose. Looking forward to purchasing a digital radio at Christmas.

I'm afraid I can't listen to music radio at all anymore. It is all so inane. I cannot understand why ANYONE would listen to Chris Moyles (mind you it is a good indicator that anyone who does should be avoided).

I once had a rose tinted view of the world where radio dj's were music fans but that is in the main a fake one. There are exceptions of course; Peel, Bob Harris and Kershaw spring to mind. Most of them though regard themselves as 'entertainers' and that is a crying shame.

Music playlisting policies are designed so that the "average" listener (i.e. the person who tunes in for only twenty minutes a day on the drive to the office) gets exactly what they expect to hear during that time and nothing that might startle them. Stations have become so terrified of listeners reaching for the tuning presets that musical output is now completely without risk, and, as a result, homogeneous across the dial.

In such a world, the only thing that makes any difference to user choice is the personality of the DJ. So you get more of this, and less music, as the former is the only thing that really distinguishes a daytime show on Virgin from one on Heart or Radio One or Xfm or just about anyone else with a licence.

that most daytime radio deejays see their radio career as merely a stepping stone towards other media i.e. television presenting, the obligatory autobiography etc. The playing of any music may prompt any channel 4 exec listening in to switch off promptly, so it's not worth taking the risk. Let's not forget also that some, now quite serious radio/television presenters, such as Mayo and Nicky Campbell used to be Radio 1 DJs. Fair enough, they only used to play Deacon Blue records, but nevertheless...

The self-appointed "saviour of Radio One" has it written into his contract that he can twat on for twenty minutes before having to play a song. I didn't make that up, but I can't remember where I heard/read it.

Once in the days when I went to gym after work and they would invariably have Radio One coming though the speakers and when CM had his "drive-time" show, I was there for an hour one day and he played one record. One. The rest you can guess at. The last time I heard him on R1 he had a better rate than that.

Mind you what do I know ? I rather liked when Mark and Lard were doing it. At least they replaced Chris Evans, a man who once disciplined one of his hirelings on air for fiddling the expenses. Just what you want to hear on the way to work.

These days I have DAB and what wakes me up is either Radios Four and Six. Why wouldn't you ? Well, the fact that my car doesn't have DAB for a start, but by then I can use the iPod, and have Radio Me. Or The Word podcast, obviously.

Chris Moyles has his own podcast, called The Best of Chris Moyles. Strangely this seems to be the bits when Chris Moyles is speaking.

that Moyles plays the massive long jingles because he writes and produces them and subsequently earns extra cash (that would be our BBC licence fee cash as well).

Not sure it's true but would be interested if any one does

I listen to Moyles if I am taking a pool car from work to visit another site. I would rather listen to him talk than to the music played by Smooth or Heart... also all cars seem to have R1 as pre-set number one so I got into the habit through laziness.

The last time I took a pool car it was not pre-tuned to R1, which is unusual, so I put it into seek mode and could not find Radio 1 at all. The reason was that Moyles was actually playing a record at that very moment but I considered it more likely that R1 was off-air than that he should be playing music at the precise moment I was scanning the airwaves... Caught out by probability theory!

so don't listen any more - but had to about a year ago. Then he used to play 2 records back to back so he could waddle out for a fag.
Can you please remove the photo of him from this thread. The man is whatever the strongest profanity allowed on this site is.

As mentioned in another thread I get force fed this buffoon at work, but in spite of that he has provided one of my favourite moments this year when he turned up at the Brits attempting to be funny, but like an old episode of Shooting Stars you could almost see tumbleweed blowing across the stage and detect the faint sound of a church bell tolling as he spoke. No fawning 'posse' around him, you see. Also, and someone really should tell him this because I genuinely think he believes he is, HE'S NOT FUNNY!!

I'm a Radio 3 man in the mornings. According to yesterday's Guardian, Moyles can prate for up to 20 minutes before playing the first record of his programme. There aren't many people whom I find interesting enough to listen to for that long, and certainly not at that time in the morning. I somehow doubt that Moyles would be one of them.

Just adding my agreement to all that's gone before - I haven't deliberately listened to music radio for about 5 years now (since I bought my first iPod strangely enough), though I spent a hellish week at the gym a while back when I'd lost my iPod and was forced to listen to Radio 1 being piped in... I counted, and it was 6 or 7 tracks an hour being played, the rest being endless matey twaddle.

One other stealth shift has been to stop calling them "DJs" and start calling them "presenters", which says it all really... I used to quite like the notion that the DJ knew more about music than I did, it just annoys me now that these know-nothings are (effectively) in charge of what gets heard by the Great British Public.

I've no idea what the royalty rate for having a disc played on R1 at breakfast is, but I would guess it's fairly hefty. Thus the more Moyles talks the fewer records that have to be played giving the BBC a substantial annual saving. So it begs the question as to whether the programme producer encourages more chat to cut costs.

6 Music's George Lamb manages to play on average a staggering 17 tracks over the course of a three hour show. Do the math.
This from a station that claims to be all about the music.

Danny Baker joined Radio 1. The first record he played was Country Home by Neil Young and Crazy Horse - all of it! Now you try and tell young folk that today, they won't believe you....

a large number of contributors, here, seem to be spending a considerable amount of time "at the gym."

Who is this "Gym" you speak of?

I have the unfortunate task of enduring Moyles and his witless "posse" for anything between 7 and 12 minutes on the drive from the childminders to the appointed dropping off/throwing out point.
It is the most mind numbing, dispiriting portion of my day hearing this talentless moron and his cling-ons wittering about their latest brushes with celebs.I think he played a record once during my listening window. It was probably the Kaiser Chiefs.