Does Cliff Richard do it for you?
He is the weirdest looking man in pop, and he's still plugging away. I see his next single is due to hit the Top Ten on Sunday.
But apart from his fanbase of older women, who's buying Cliff's records?
While I have my favourites (Wired For Sound, Big Ship, In The Country), I've never actually bought one.
Have you? If so, which one(s) and if not, can you own up to liking a Cliff song?
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Cliff
Bought the Devil Woman single when it came out in my youth.It was like "Crazy Horses" to me,the one single by a particular artist it was ok to like....
Devil Woman
is a fine song, and the ringtone for when my wife calls.
I bought my Mum a double CD Best Of
I ripped Wired For Sound into MP3 for myself. I left the rest well alone.
The people buying Cliff Richard these days...
... are possibly the same people watching "The Passion Of The Christ" inbetween reading whatever part they've came to in the "Left Behind" series by Tim Lahaye and Jerry B Jenkins. BTW I quite liked Move It.
Is it cruel of me to suggest that if he had died in the early sixties Cliff would be one of the great "what if's" of musical history? He's not dead and there's no actual "what if" to be asked in real life I know, but when he started out Cliff was definately more credible than the likes of Tommy Steele.
Perhaps if Cliff had worked with Joe Meek things would be different?
I remember
going to see 'Finders Keepers' with my mum and thinking it was great. Mind you I was only six. 'In the Country' still sounds good though.
I prefer the original....
...by The Farmers Boys.
Indeed.
Their virtually note-perfect re-creation truly was the Sound of Young Norfolk. ( Nice b-side too as I recall ).
Their Phew Wow
was a great song too - remains one of my fave intros ever - soooo uplifting!
Cliff
Do you think he'd benefit from a collaboration with Rick Rubin?
I've bought his greatest hits 3 times!
Years ago and ex inlaw inflected on me a serial punishment. She had (has) offically the worst taste in music and asked for Cliff's double lp greatest hits for Xmas.
Dutifully I bought one copy in my regular shop, cue much smirking from the Goth behind the counter. My horror deepened as on the 25th both lps turned out to be the same disc A ,so I have to take it back. Only to find the same was true of the replacement.
So for third time with Mr Wayne Hussy jnr almost crying with laughter I trudge into the shop disclaiming from the door "it's not for me it's a present". Everyitme I bought stuff from then on it's was "we've got the latest cliff etc"
Although I probably have a copy of "Living doll" feat the young ones!
When I bought my Mum's 2CD Best Of
I also bought Aerosmiths 2CD Best Of. The young female staff memeber looked awfully confused by my purchases. Neither of us said anything.
Dynamite .....
an early Rock n Roll single was a favourite of mine as a child, part of a batch of old 45s I was given by Grandparents when I got my first record player. Haven't heard it for a while, I must get the 45 box off the top of the wardrobe. Miss You Nights is a rather good big 70s ballad with some nice harmonies. Oh dear, I can hear the taste police at the door, must go. Even as we all dismiss the notion of guilty pleasures, that broadness of church has not broadened sufficiently to include Cliff. It's the God bothering, no question.
Anyone admit to liking The Shadows? Apart from Apache.
Christian Union!
I once saw him play an acoustic gig at Oxford Poly Christian Union (I wasn't a card carrying member, I feel obliged to clarify - I was fond of a member of this fine organisation ;-)) and Cliff showed up and sang a few songs and played his acoustic gutar. I have to say he had a fine voice and did the job well. Not that I can stand his music, but he's a real pro. Whilst tuning up he muttered, on mic, "sometimes I really miss Hank Marvin"...
Move It
Whatever he's done since, "Move It" is just a great song
MEAN STREAK
from the same era as the Fabulous MOVE IT.
DYNAMITE rocks too.
Whatever he's become now doesn't bother me. He's made great pop singles.
WERE WE EVER SO YOUNG ?
"Congratulations"
First record I ever bought. Proud to admit it. He was robbed, you know...
"Wired For Sound" was good. "In The Country" also, although eclipsed by the Farmer's Boys cover. "Daddy's Home", "She's So Beautiful", "Dreamin'" and even "I Just Don't Have The Heart" all hit the spot.
And who can forget the magnificence that was "We Don't Talk Anymore" - especially the couplet:
"And I ain't losing sleep (sle-e-e-eep)
And I ain't counting sheep (she-e-e-eep)"
Sheep
Think it was Danny Baker I once heard pointing out that the backing vocalists on 'We Don't Talk Anymore' probably sat about all day before getting up before the microphone to sing 'She-e-e-eep'. I laugh every time I hear the song now...
gurly chiz chiz
I like the Good Pop Ones. And Miss You Nights. Sorry...
No it's no good.
Can't think of a single reason to like any of it. Never have.
He's a nicer bloke than he's portrayed and there is much to admire from a career point of view so it's not a personality thing.
Move It rocks... when I had
Move It rocks... when I had the obligatory school band, we used to cover it in a hard rock stylee. I still like "Devil Woman" and some of the other late 70's stuff. It's all good pop, right?
Nice bloke?
Personally I think he is a sanctimonious old Christian zealot who is probably more right wing than Mrs T. He had an awesome backing band in the Shadows but they had the good sense to go and do something else. Feature him in Word and I might cancel my subscription. Is this thread a wind up???
Nicer bloke than portrayed
not nice bloke. But I don't think he qualifies as a sanctimonious old Christian zealot who is probably more right wing than Mrs T. I think he's just a little up himself with how important his beliefs matter to others.
The Wimbledon singing thing was pretty unforgivable though. Imagine, sitting in the rain after paying £200 for your ticket thinking that it couldn't get any worse and then Harry decides you want to hear him sing....
It sounds like he's got false teeth on the new one
But apart from that - I like...
Move It, We Don't Talk Anymore, Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha, Carrie and Devil Woman
But what in the name of Hank Marvin was that one a couple years ago all about - It's like a police statement set to popular song...
"what Car?
what Girl?
what Tree?
what Kerb?
what Are You Talkin' About?
I Never Left The House
what Keys?
what Crash?
how Dare You Ask?
the Car Is Gone, Move On
daddy You Better Move On"
Cliffy
Gets the piss taken out of him too much. Seems a nice bloke who is a figure of fun fro various reasond. Made some decent records. As mentioned above Dynamite and Move It are brill. But also made some good Pop records, Please Dont Tease, In The Country, On The Beach etc plus his band the Shads had Hank Marvin who was a big influence on Peter Green. I think it would have been better for Cliff if he had just come out of the closet instead of fannying around with his "business partner" or whatever he called him. Plus I actually used to like his variety show on Saturday evenings with Hank and Bruce and Una Stubbs.
One of my favourites
Travellin' Light:
cliff - top ten - on sunday?
Christmas starts earlier every year doesn't it?
So it's safe to say then
that there are plenty of Cliff fans on here.
Who knew?
*goes and plays Carrie on ipod*
I like
Move It, Wired For Sound, Devil Woman, We Don't Talk Anymore....
And I also think the film Summer Holiday is still really entertaining. I wasn't born when it was out but saw it as a kid and have always had a spot for it.
Someone mentioned Appache by The Shadows earlier, they did a few other good ones too (FBI in particular).
Summer Holiday
A very unlikely looking crew of London bus mechanics they were, singing and prancing about at the drop of a hat. Cliff cropped up on 'The One Show' recently and talked over the female guest constantly, enthusing about that mad woman who may well become president of the USA if the other bloke wins and pops his clogs in the excitment.
Actually I quite liked 'The Day I Met Marie' but never enough to own it. The lyrics are nicely ambiguous and leave you wondering whether this was a quick romp in the haystack or a mere peck on the cheek!
At Last
I had to scroll a long way down to find my favourite. I think Carrie's a great song. If it had been done by anyone else it would be rated much more highly. He's one of these artists who really needs people to suspend their preconceptions and listen to the record. But I think that like most guys who aren't singer songwriters, he's only as good as the songs/production. When it's good, he's great.
Point of order...
I take your point Peter, but isn't it equally true that with artistes who do write their own material, they are still only as good as the songs? It could also be added that if A Songwriter simply isn't any good at writing songs, then he's stuffed; Cliff can go and get someone else to write him better songs.
There are quite a few good Cliff records, most of which have been mentioned here. Am I the only one who rather liked his version of O Little Town Of Bethlehem, from the early 80s? Completely different tune and a lovely arrangement; it's infinitely better than his other ghastly Christmas tunes.
Cliff Vwichard
We Don't Talk Anymore...
Years ago I read an interview with Nils Lofgren. The interviewer said Lofgren was singing this Cliff song to himself, and that it really suited his vocal style. That's the only time I ever thought of anything to do with CR as being even remotely cool.
Also, can I mention a line from Minder when an old lag comes out of jail after a long spell and asks what he's missed. The reply, as I remember: "...nothing much. Cliffy's still a bachelor boy".
Heard part of a radio programme...
... about Cliff Richard driving back after a concert up in Newcastle, and he was talking about an anonymous release he did of a R&B track that was sent round to various DJ's who thought it good enough to play on their shows - though when they found out it was Cliff singing, they dropped it like a hot potato.
His music ain't my taste, and as others have mentioned - he does have good work in his back catalogue - but the Christian 'thing' does still have a negative effect on his image (sadly).
I heard that story only last week
Possibly under the name "Black Night?". I'm sure Cliff doesn't lie but I heard a version where "all the kids went nuts for it". I hope it's true for Cliff's sake but it sounds like the "going nuts" bit might be a bit overstated. Similar stories went around about Gilbert O'Sullivan's "So What" single and I think Leo Sayer has waded in too.
Anyway, Cliff has never done it for me. Barry Manilow wanted to "do it" with me though. Smooth talking bastard.
No ironic revival for Cliff
He still labours under the impression that he's somehow relevant. A string of great pop hits will be his legacy. He should really give it up now.
The sad thing
about Cliff is that he genuinely seems to think that the charts are important- even now. For him 'hits' still seem to equal 'importance'.
The state of the charts...
... ain't his fault, so all he can do is release singles and see where that gets him. I think his wanting to be in the charts isn't an ego thing - I just think it's the romance & attraction of the charts lingering in his mind from when he started his career.
Maybe I believe in the good of mankind too much...
Move it/Summer Holiday and that's it
But come on, you've got to say it is an achievement unlikely to be ever matched let alone beaten.
Cliff is harmless.
His work with The Shadows is surprisingly good and since then, his handful of genuinely good pop songs, albeit stretched out over such a long period of time, will ensure he's remembered fondly.
His voice is underrated, I think. He still has a good pop voice.
Surely Cliff's USP
Is that he doesn't do it for anyone.
Anyway, I like "Miss You Nights" (though clearly he wasn't singing from experience.
Cliff in Space
Glad somebody has voted for Miss You Nights (I also like move it).
I think his finest hour was as his puppet version in "Thunderbirds are Go" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_Are_GO):
"Disappointed and annoyed, Alan has a dream about going with Lady Penelope to the Swinging Star, which in his dream is located in outer space. Playing at the nightclub are "Cliff Richard Jr. and the Shadows" (puppets and voices of the real Cliff Richard and the Shadows), who perform a musical number called "Shooting Star" (accompanied by music video-like imagery such as the Cliff Richard Jr. marionette dancing on a giant guitar in space), and an instrumental track "Lady Penelope"".
I've seen him in concert, you know ...
I see that many people have admitted to liking some of his singles and even buying the occasional single. Well, I've seen him in concert, so there.
It was about a decade ago. My mum & dad had tickets but my dad was unable to go at the last minute (form your own theory on that) and so, rather than let my mum miss it because she wouldn't go on her own, I went with her. He did about 2.5 hours, with an interval in the middle, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Apart from the dire Heathcliff bit, that is.
I am the proud possessor of "The Whole Story" - and yes, I bought it for myself - and I like most of it. It's in chronological order, and the first disc is good, although the second is patchy. At his best (for me, "Devil Woman", "Miss You Nights", "Wired For Sound"), it's great pop; at it's worst, it's sentimental gloop and, on "Daddy's Home", actually scary.
cliff... my favorite song
This is from Eddi Reader the singer via John Douglas the songwriter.....
Apart from all le 'propaganda' blah blah... Cliff happens to possess, as does, Tom Jones, as does Teddy Thompson, and mr Yorkson one of the finest vocal abilities of any male singer to come out of this country in the last hundred years.
His choices, are subjective taste, and not the point.
Music only works when the LISTENER needs it.
He has provided MUSIC for many souls to live their lives to and this in itself commands our deepest respect.
Marion was a hard partying, beautiful, beehived, high-heeled doll who loved listening to that man sing songs.
She boogied most weekends to his rock and roll stuff.
When she fell in love finally and forever with Donny from her home town, their first dance at their wedding was 'WHEN THE GIRL IN YOUR ARMS'
Every family party and every occasion to rock out Marion would be there, in the centre of the room singing CONGRATULATIONS.
Marion, after raising a family of twins and a boy, and a spell of emigration to somewhere her Donny might find work.
Came home and saw the birth of her three grand children
I am not sure what the title of that song is that she had her wedding dance to, but its my favorite Cliff Richard song because he made something that Donny could hold on to when he buried Marion in the Catholic chaple that 40 years earlier he married her in.
God bless that singer. He is just a bloke, and I dont know him, but in a hundred years when we are ALL worm food they will be talking about his abilities with pride.
Total respect.
Surely
Devil Woman is a bona-fide classic - and there was me thinking Buddha had all the best tunes