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Do you really know the classics?

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I heard Astral Weeks for the first ever time this morning (it's really rather good, I think this guy could have a future) and it got me thinking. I'd guess that the average contributor to this site listens to a lot of music and more or less knows their stuff. But have we all heard the classic albums? The ones that have been around for years, are well-known and highly acclaimed. I'm talking about Forever Changes, Blonde on Blonde, Kind of Blue etc.

To my shame, I've never heard (off the top of my head):
Revolver
Exile on Main Street
Dark Side of the Moon
Physical Grafitti
Never Mind the Bollocks

Anyone else willing to confess?

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I don't listen to them as much as others but...

I own (and listen to occasionally and more) all the albums you mention except Physical Grafitti and Dark Side Of The Moon. Can't be doing with Zep or Floyd.

Actually I listen to Revolver quite often, although I can't bring myself to listen to Sgt Pepper. In fact I think I've only ever listened to that in it's entirety about three times.

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SimonL | 8 January 2009 - 11:23am

Go on then

Never bothered to listen to
'Five Leaves Left' or 'Pink Moon' by Nick Drake
'Grace' by Jeff Buckley
'Joshua Tree'
'Automatic For The People'
'Bridge Over Troubled Water'
'Horses'
'Hotel California'
'After The Goldruish' or 'Harvest'

And you know what? I have no desire to correct this.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 11:34am

Not even tempted...

...to listen once, to see what the fuss is about and to enable you to express an informed opinion?

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 11:52am

Yes

to lots and lots of other records, but not to any of those ones.
I would have to overcome deep psychological barriers to all of the artists concerned.

Namely:

I hold Jeff Buckley directly responsible for Muse and their ilk. The idea of Nick Drake just seems far too ....wet. Neil Young's voice makes me howl in pain. U2 are unspeakable. REM have Michael Stipe as a lead singer. The Eagles have been tainted for me by the Big Leboski. Patti Smith is a buffoon.

I diskard them.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 11:57am

I guess my equivalents would be...

...the indie 'canon' - Joy Division, Cure, Smiths, Nirvana etc etc - but over time I've forced myself to listen to them to see if they really are as atrocious as I believed.

In most cases I now feel vindicated and able to express my dislike from a point of knowledge and experience :-)

(I agree about U2 and REM though - even having listened to them)

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 12:12pm

Don't get me wrong

I've heard songs by all of the artists I've mentioned, with the exception of Nick Drake, and in some cases I've bought albums (Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps and Decade).

I feel that gives me enough of a point of knowledge and experience to know that I don't want to go anywhere near any of those particular records.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 12:14pm

I don't understand why

anyone would want to dismiss an artist without ever hearing them.
I love music too much to contemplate doing that and would willingly listen to anything that was pressed into my sweaty hands.
I can understand why you would expect Nick Drake to be too wet, but at least confirm it for yourself. I always thought that I wouldn't like Frank Zappa and after listening to an album I was surprised to discover that I was wrong. I hate his music much more than I thought I would. But at least I know. ;-)

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:32pm

Alright then

I'll give him a whirl this lunch time

Any suggestions for a song?

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 12:42pm

Excellent!

I suggest 'Northern Sky'

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:48pm

You know what?

That really is great. I loved it. Absolutely nothing like what I thought it would be.

Being wrong is ace sometimes.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 12:55pm

Can I suggest...

...Time Has Told Me for your next track? My personal Nick Drake favourite.

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 12:56pm

You certainly can

I listened to Which Will immediately after - not keen, that was kind of what I was wary of.

Will give Time Has Told Me a go now.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 12:59pm

Which Will

At this point can I recommend Lucinda Williams' cover of this song?

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Carl Parker | 8 January 2009 - 7:59pm

Where can I access that, please?

Much as i find Mr Drakes arrangements bland and his voice irritating, Ms Williams generally does good cover.

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Retropath2 | 9 January 2009 - 11:00am

Sweet Old World

Which is a fine album apart from the cover of Which Will.

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Carl Parker | 9 January 2009 - 12:27pm

Well there's a thing......

I have it then, without ever clocking the writer of that last song on side 2. Sort of drifts the end of the album away, with more memorable vocal than tune, actually like quite a lot of Lucinda. It is one of my 2 favourite LW albums, the other being her eponymous, 2 ahead of it.

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Retropath2 | 9 January 2009 - 12:42pm

Wow!

Was not expecting that! Really thought you would hate it! You're right. Being wrong is ace sometimes. (I also don't feel so guilty about sitting here for so long today - whether the other half will see it that way is another matter of course.....)

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 1:02pm

Try Saturday Sun

or Hazey Jane II

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Leedsboy | 8 January 2009 - 12:59pm

yeah he's alright actually

I prefer it when he is accompanied, not keen when it's just him an his guitar, as it draws a bit too much attention to his voice. But some of the arrangements are very pleasant to listen to.

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 1:03pm

Aaargh

Where were you lot when I cursed his works and legacy as responsible for all the fey, weedyboy vocals infesting modern seriousyoungman music, you know, Keane, Coldplay, all that tosh. Bloody Drakes fault, I feel. Hello, clouds, hello, sky, oh dear, hello black cloud.....
On 1/12/2008 I said:
"On the other hand.....
......death being the great un-leveller, wary of the backlash this will deliver me, there are some who, to me, aren't quite the giants posterity and the re-issue hungry business paints them as.
I'll start with Eva Cassidy, as her saccharine sing'n'strums are unlikely to be propping up too many shelves in Word-land, but, big breath, OK, Nick Drake. Is he really anything more than reticent whimsy? Tragic life etc etc, sad story, but isn't he really a bit dull? We look for scapegoats for the current school of plaintive whiny brit"rock" maudlin: the evidence is all there, guys.........
I will be at a hidden address, protected, for my safety."

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Retropath2 | 8 January 2009 - 2:18pm

Someone needs a hug....

Come on then,

:-)

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 2:33pm

or

Fly, Pink Moon,Chime of a City Clock, Fruit Tree. Beautiful?? Yes..Wet? Nah!

Try "The People's Music' by the late great Ian McDonald for the ultimate piece of wrting about Nick's muisc.

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Bingham | 8 January 2009 - 5:47pm

Nivana

I didn't get it. Massive band and leaders of a whole movement. Just sounding like poorly recorded sludgy heavy metal of no great distinction. I watched a Making Of Nevermind doc and couldn't see what was so special about the band.

Watched the doc again and a critic (from Rolling Stone magazine?) said, "It was all about melody. Everything was in the service of the melody. The lyrics didn't really meaning anything. It was just the way they sounded that mattered. Hidden underneath the Black Sabbath guitars are pop songs. Proper pop songs with proper catchy, hummable melodies."

This was like a bullet to my brain. Listening to them again I specifically paid attention to the ebb and flow of the melody. And the songs really came together for me. Now the band made sense. It's a pop band with a heavy metal sound. Brilliant.

I'm still not convinced by Nevermind, but the self titled Best Of is sequenced like an album, with a real flow and style to it that I love. If you want to give them another chance try the Best Of. Or watch a music video on YouTube and hum along to it.

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 12:22pm

Nirvana = Yes??

"It was all about melody. Everything was in the service of the melody. The lyrics didn't really meaning anything. It was just the way they sounded that mattered"

We were saying that about Yes back in 1972 :-)

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 12:59pm

And one of Kurt's favourtie bands were...

...of course, Teenage Fanclub.

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 8 January 2009 - 1:18pm

And Cobain was a massive ABBA fan

A lot of people were surprised that he used to constantly play ABBA Gold on the tour bus.

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 2:19pm

Underrated

Teenage Fanclub. The most underrated British band of recent times in my view. Anyone agree or disagree?

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gerry d | 9 January 2009 - 10:02pm

The Fannies

Underrated? Yes
The most underrated British band of recent times? No

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stimpy | 9 January 2009 - 10:03pm

The lyrics didn't really meaning anything?

I'm surprised they say that. My impression was the lyrics meant a hell of a lot to Cobain and his fans. More so than most bands in fact. He was called a spokesman for his generation - who's words meant nothing, well ironically maybe that's appropriate for generation X, not really true though is it?

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Sven Garlic | 8 January 2009 - 1:18pm

I think a chunck of the lyrics meant something

but a lot of it just conveys a feeling more than anything specific. I'm not saying the words are bad, just that meaning came second to how they fit the melody.

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 2:16pm

We've already fessed up

in this thread, about not just albums but in many cases entire artists' oeuvres that have somehow passed us by, so I fear doing it again would just be humiliation overkill. I, for example, have been known ever since as That Bloke Who Went Seventeen Years Without Ever Knowingly Hearing "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 January 2009 - 11:39am

Sorry Mr V

I did have a feeling it may have been covered before, but never mind.

Things do seem to get repeated on the site these days.

Things do seem to get repeated on the site these days.

Arf!

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Joe R | 8 January 2009 - 1:43pm

No, no, I ain't poopin' no partay

I was speaking purely for myself. The experience was so painful the first time around that I couldn't face re-revealing my gaping lacunae.*

The thread's fun to read. It's just participating in it that I'd rather pass on.

Oh, go on then. Apart from "God Only Knows" and the one about the boat (wait; it'll come to me - got it! "Slap Mel B!") I've never heard Pet Sounds.

[A pedant doubts: Can lacunae gape? Aren't they full of water?]

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 January 2009 - 2:10pm

Yep...

They can definitely gape. If it's one thing lacunae do well, it's gaping

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 2:30pm

Pet Sounds

I wouldn't say you're missing too much really. God Only Knows is far and away the best thing on there, though I'm surprised you haven't heard "Wouldn't It Be Nice."

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Joe R | 8 January 2009 - 2:33pm

Pacific Ocean Blue

Don't get it.
1 good track

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 2:38pm

There's another one

I haven't heard...

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Joe R | 8 January 2009 - 2:55pm

It is shite

Despite being released in 1977, it manages to sound horribly over produced in an 80s sort of way.

I've said before that I reckon it was only rated so much so that people who'd spent £150 on it could save face. Now that it's widely available you don't hear so much about it

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 3:00pm

Its great!

......in wonderful overproduced sort of 70s BeachBoy way.
(I don't think it's my day!)

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Retropath2 | 8 January 2009 - 3:17pm

I love it too

Every eight bars you can hear Dennis saying, "Hey guys, to really make this track work what we need coming in here is a..."

Overblown doesn't always work, but it's invariably more interesting than underblown.

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 January 2009 - 4:01pm

Caroline No??

Yes????

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Bingham | 8 January 2009 - 5:50pm

A tangent

I once used the word lacuna in a meeting. When I left the job, the director of the department in his valedictory speech to me, mentioned this as one of the most memorable things about my time of employment. I'm not sure if this was good or bad.

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Carl Parker | 8 January 2009 - 8:03pm

Kind of Blue

I downloaded it yesterday after years of hearing how it's the 'Greatest Jazz Album Ever' and thinking that I really should hear it I was inspired to do so after reading the article in Word with Chris Rea in which he talks so passionately about the record that I had to check it out. I have to say that I was expecting it to be difficult & hard to like but it is actually a pleasure from start to finish. Really beautiful stuff and easy, but in a good way.
As far as your list goes only 'Exile..' & 'Forever Changes' have not reached my ears so far. The rest of them I can recommend and as you now know, Astral Weeks is great, a stunning album that improves with every play.
There are of course hundreds of 'classics' that I've yet to hear, but that's the joy though isn't it? Knowing that there is still great music waiting for you to find it.
Now, back to Miles....

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 11:45am

Continuing your gentle intro to jazz...

try 'A Love Supreme' next.

THEN we'll start recommending the scary stuff :-)

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 11:53am

I have just

had a listen to the 30 clip on iTunes of the first track. Is it just me, or when the sax comes in does it sound exactly like the theme to The Sweeney? (This is not a diss by the way, I know the album came before the theme, It just amused me.)
I have 'Coltrane For Lovers' which is a compilation so doesn't really count, but I love it anyway.
But thanks for the tip, I will add it to my list.

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:07pm

WAAAAAH!!!

I'm going to think that every time I listen to it now! :-))

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 12:13pm

So, so Sorry!!

Doh!

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:18pm

Astral Weeks

improves with every listen you say? And I've only heard it once and loved it! Happy times are ahead

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Joe R | 8 January 2009 - 1:34pm

I can honestly say...

...that I've probably listened to it at least once per month for the last 40 years and it still bewitches me.

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 1:52pm

Every one of those albums is terrific

Haven't played most of them in years, but I'd never sell my copies or give them away.

Except Kind of Blue that is. Never heard it, probably never will. My loss entirely I'm sure. I don't like virtuosity so the idea of listening to Miles Davis does not appeal.

My confession would be to say (and this is only a "confession" in present company) until recently I had never seen so much as a promo for The Wire. A week or so back I switched over the TV and heard the words "Coming up next The Wire." and I thought "Ooh, they are always yapping about this on The Word. This I gotta see!"

I watched five minutes of it, some kid stole a car and had his fingers broken by a cop. I thought "I'm not watching this shit" and went to bed. It seems life is tough on the mean streets. Who would have guessed? I'm sure it's a great show but it's not for me.

The point I am trying to make is you shouldn't travel through life like the American tourist I saw once on a bus in Paris merrily ticking off landmarks as she went. I heard her say to her no doubt long suffering husband, "We've seen the Eiffel Tower, where is this Arch of Triumph?"

If it's important to you you'll find it.

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Cookieboy | 8 January 2009 - 12:28pm

'If it's important to you you'll find it'

is a fine mantra.
But when you do find it, it's wise to spend a little time getting to know it before deciding if it's worth keeping. (IMO :-) )

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:41pm

Whilst your last sentence is spot on....

...judging The Wire on the basis of five minutes of an episode in Series 4 is not a good idea. To take David Simon's own analogy, would you judge whether a book was worth reading by looking at a couple of pages which are two thirds of the way through?

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UtrechtSimon | 8 January 2009 - 2:17pm

I use the page 69 rule

to see if it's worth investigating further.

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 2:21pm

me too - sorta

not necessarily page 69 - but i dip in to a couple of pages in the middle - if I'm intrigued, then it's bought.

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badartdog | 8 January 2009 - 6:51pm

The Wire

The key word in the phrase "It's not for me" is "me".

I'm 46yo, I know my own tastes by now. I'm not trying to set anyone's agenda. I just knew from that brief viewing that I would not enjoy that show and I wasn't ever going to go back to series 1 episode 1 to see that brutal scene in its correct context.

I'll have you know I once opened a book and judged it by a single sentence! I picked up some thriller in a second hand bookshop. I opened it to a random page and read the words...

"Yes", she snorted.

Back on the shelf it went.

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Cookieboy | 9 January 2009 - 8:13pm

So What

The opening track from Kind Of Blue is So What. Here is Miles and John Coltrane and the rest of the band:


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Carl Parker | 8 January 2009 - 8:05pm

Thank you for posting that

If cool means nonchalant then that clip is the epitome of "cool." I love the way they just wander off and you can see them chatting and smoking in the background.

The music is nothing like I expected. There was no endless scooting up and down the scales which is what I feared.

I think the mistake I made was bracketing him through my own ignorance with your near-namesake Charlie Parker. Thank you again.

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Cookieboy | 9 January 2009 - 7:14pm

Virtuosity...

Just to pick up on this point...Miles doesn't play lots of notes, he just plays sparingly and that's what's so beautiful about "Kind of Blue'.

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Mr Sparks | 8 January 2009 - 10:10pm

Of course you should listen to the classics,

read the classics and watch the classics. Short of invoking another playlist of also rans from LOUD (kidding, they're, um,lovely and, er, interesting), what are they?
One mans new classic is anothers Classix nouveau, innit?

(P.S."I don't like virtuosity?" What the?)

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Retropath2 | 8 January 2009 - 12:33pm

I'm tempted to delay publishing

my singer-songwriter playlist for a few days. But then that would be playing into your hands.

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 12:41pm

Ignore the nasty man, Loud

:-)

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 12:44pm

"I don't like virtuosity?" What the?

It means something that's fun or has an emotional feeling to it instead of uninteresting technique that he/she cannot appreciate?

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LOUDspeaker | 8 January 2009 - 12:44pm

Virtuosity...

...isn't just about the ability to go widdly-widdly for the sake of it.

It's about the ability to make the instrument convey the emotion and feeling that the player is trying to express.

Robert Johnson was as much a virtuoso as Clapton or Beck.

Miles was a virtuoso who, often, played almost nothing.

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 1:03pm

Correct assumption

I don't like musicianship for it's own sake. Music is in the groove. When Jimi Hendrix played with his band he was untouchable, when he went off on a tangent he was unlistenable. It's as though he were testing himself to see how many notes he could hit.

Musical notes are like words on a page or brushstrokes on a painting, they are meaningless on their own.

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Cookieboy | 9 January 2009 - 7:32pm

the ability to go widdly-widdly for the sake of it.

Isn't that what men lose as they get past a certain age?

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 8 January 2009 - 1:19pm

LoL

Thanks

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 1:22pm

I We7'd Kraftwerk's 22 year

I We7'd Kraftwerk's 22 year old Electric Cafe for the first time this morning while writing about commercial dishwashers - its fantastic (the album, not writing about commerical dishwashers) especially Telephone Call.

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Andy Lynes | 8 January 2009 - 3:50pm

What's a commercial dishwasher?

One that every time it's switched on rinses away 30 seconds of your life.

Ayethangyew.

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 January 2009 - 4:04pm

Sorry but,

Wots we7'd mean?

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 6:52pm

We7 is a website

We7 is a website http://www.we7.com/(launched by Peter Gabriel and six other people hence the name) where you can listen to albums for free with the slight annoyance of very short ads between the tracks.

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Andy Lynes | 8 January 2009 - 10:36pm

Thank you

Sir.

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ChaosandMorphine | 8 January 2009 - 10:52pm

Preconceptions / Misconceptions

I find it totally perverse, bizarre and inexplicable that anyone with more than a passing interest in music - most of the Massive - wouldn't investigate why some artists and albums are regarded as great. It doesn't mean you have to agree, but at least you might have an idea of what interests, moves and excites others.

All you have to do is pony up 79p to download a song, or click on YouTube to take a look. It's great to have your preconceptions changed. Mind you, it can be nice to have them confirmed too...

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Rufus T Firefly | 8 January 2009 - 5:08pm

Sometimes

....I just can't be arsed

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Chimney Singing... | 8 January 2009 - 5:33pm

Yay, thats ma boy!

I can almost forgive your youthful love of Oasis when you encapsulate such winning ennui there. Yes, yes, Rufus, of course you're right, but we ain't mere-passing-interest-in-musics here, we are habits, passions and vices, and the responsibility, the responsibility. Sometimes we just have to rely on our noses rather than our ears. Sometimes the Pope can't face Mass and takes a sickie. Think of Chimney in the same way. I will from now onward.

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Retropath2 | 8 January 2009 - 5:41pm

Ill Papa

I didn't know that about his Holiness. I will from now onward too.

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Rufus T Firefly | 8 January 2009 - 9:02pm

Well

I just bought "The Stooges" and "Fun House" and was truly left freezing cold. What's wrong with me??

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Bingham | 8 January 2009 - 5:53pm

Nothing's wrong with you...

...they're just third-rate garageband stuff. (IMHO, natch)

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stimpy | 8 January 2009 - 6:14pm

I'd concentrate on Fun House

...if I were you. The Stooges are one of my favourites, but I don't listen to the first album very often. Listen to Down on The Street, Dirt, Loose and TV Eye over and over again very very very loud. The penny will drop.

If you're expecting a straightforward garage rock band you'll be disappointed. There's loads going on in that album, it's not square.

God I love Dirt.

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Chimney Singing... | 9 January 2009 - 10:51am

3rd rate garageband!?!?

The Stooges!?!?!?

Actually you're right, but that's what makes them so bloody good!

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SimonL | 8 January 2009 - 9:48pm

Child of the 80s

...I`m afraid, so Horses, Hotel California, Astral Weeks, Pet Sounds, Revolver, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Never Mind the Bollocks (I can`t even remember punk happening!), Frank Zappa, The Grateful Dead, The Stones, Iggy Pop and loads of other stuff mentioned in `The Greatest Magazine Ever` have yet to be consumed. `There is no such thing as new music, only music you`ve never heard before` neatly sums it up. I`ll get there in the end, I`ve no doubt about that.

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gerry d | 9 January 2009 - 10:18pm

That's no excuse!

I'm a child of the 80s too and although I haven't heard many things (hence me starting the thread), I have found time in my relatively short tenure on this earth to investigate Pet Sounds (overrated), Joni Mitchell (very much underrated) and Bob Dylan.

You and I have a lot of listening to be getting on with it seems!

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Joe R | 12 January 2009 - 9:27am

As an exercise...

...I bought the book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die a couple of years ago and have been working my way through it from page 1, listening to every album they recommend.

It's very much the predictable choices but, given the number of critics who voted on the list, that's to be expected. Nevertheless it's prompting me to listen to a lot of stuff I haven't tried before - key new discoveries to date are:

Louis Prima
Tito Puente
Ray Price
Joao Gilberto
Buck Owens
The Sonics
Fred Neil

I'm up to 1967 so far so at least another couple of years work to be put in!

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/steveparker/1001albums.htm

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stimpy | 12 January 2009 - 10:56am

Joni Mitchell

Joni may be underrated today (I'm not sure by whom though), but when she was regularly putting out albums in the 1970s and 80s she was held in very high esteem.

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Carl Parker | 12 January 2009 - 12:42pm

Classic Alternative Albums

Key albums I haven't listened to is any of My Bloody Valentine's backcatalogue, mostly because I'm still waiting for their long overdue reissues to come out, and anything by The Pixies.

I also haven't got The White Album, whenever I find it in shops or on the net it's over 20 quid, so I leave it.

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Richey22 | 11 January 2009 - 3:57pm

I confess

... I have never heard "Larks Tongue in Aspic", but with all the prog love-ins recently on this site, I am be tempted to give it a try.
I did try listening to Trout Mask Replica but gave up. Life´s too short.

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On The Fence | 13 January 2009 - 4:12pm

Go on...

Give it a try...

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stimpy | 13 January 2009 - 4:42pm

iPod dare

Does anyone out there have Trout Mask Replica on an iPod or other MP3 player?

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Carl Parker | 14 January 2009 - 6:53pm

The "good" Captain

Oh God no !!!!
"Trout Mask Replica" has very unfortunate connotations for me. My hi fi had gone wrong in about 1979 and I had taken it to Laskys in Tottenham Court Road to be repaired. Picked it up on the Saturday and put it into the car parked nearby.and strolled on down to Virgin to have a nose round and bought "Trout Mask Replica". Got back to the car to find the doors swinging open and my hi fi gone. Not surprisingly this sort of coloured my perception of that album. I listened to two tracks and gave it away - couldn't bear it. I do however like ummm "Bluejeans and Moonbeams" so I expect you all hate me now.
"Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis is one I can't get my head round - I too bought "Kind of Blue" because people went on about it a few years ago and it's "OK". I do like most of the Gil Evans/Miles Davis stuff though - especially "Sketches of Spain". Having listened to these I went back to "Bitches Brew" and . . . I still hated it !!
Bought the box set of Radiohead because I thought I may be missing out and hated that too.
Apart from the odd track on a compilation I have never heard Nick Drake and don't really feel I need to do so
Coldplay have left me well . . . cold
Am I missing out on things - well no I don't think so.
I discover or re-discover new types of music, listen to them, distill the wheat from the chaff and move on. Some stick some don't.Over the past couple of years I have been listening to Goa Trance, surf music, country, southern soul, southern rock, folk, electronica, Goth and I find good and bad in all.

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borntorun | 14 January 2009 - 11:37pm

Bluejeans and moonbeams

Far and away my favourite Captain Beefheart record. Hated by Beefheart purists I know, but then I don't claim to be a fan. For me, it's his only non confrontational album (ie you don't have to work hard to get any listening pleasure out of it) with some really great tracks. Observatory Crest and the title track both stick in my mind as good 'uns.

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Carl Parker | 15 January 2009 - 12:18pm

The p2p world has...

...confirmed that Led Zep, Ramones and most of Sonic Youth's stuff is cack.

Never got into Van Morrison or Dylan either. I mean, I've heard it now, repeatedly. Not sure what else to do with this stuff apart from delete.

Pet Sounds is just weak as well, to these ears, apart from three tracks. In no way a classic *album*.

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Auntie Beryl | 15 January 2009 - 12:42am

The Durutti Column

had long been on my list of "heard of but never listened to and not inspired to either" acts. Then a) they cropped up on a Word cd and were jolly good; and b) I heard a couple of snippets whilst browsing a Factory retrospective on iTunes. Now, I'm a convert and own several of their cd's: bloody excellent and actually a classic case of dropping the prejudice and listening to the music.

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Mark JF | 18 January 2009 - 4:41pm

Maybe it's the fans?

I know I'm rather late to this thread, but reading made me think about the many unfair prejudices I have about various artists. I wonder whether part of it is, if the particular band/artist's fanbase seem to be on the prattish side, then you inevitably (in the absence of any other information) assume the band must be prattish too.

Look at the Disciples photos in a recent issue of Word, where a photographer showed a line up of each band's concert attendees: be honest, if you'd never heard the Cure before, would be intrigued what they sound like given what their fans look like? Or would you conclude they're hopelessly affected clothes horses, all pose and no substance or imagination? (Actually, that latter description is not too far from my opinion of the band).

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Douglas | 28 January 2009 - 7:25pm

Radiohead fans on the internet are the worst.

They seem to think they're heavy weight intellectuals and anyone who likes Radiohead, but doesn't adore them, are light weight scum who can't handle anything more difficult than Girls Aloud's latest singles (not their albums as they're too demanding for us obviously).

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LOUDspeaker | 29 January 2009 - 10:33am

As I mentioned in another thread

It's fun to give a Radiohead fan some proper avant-garde work, or even some early 70s underground music and watch them shrivel up and die.

Most of 'em can't even handle Close To The Edge ferchrissake

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stimpy | 29 January 2009 - 10:36am

I know a "reasonable" Radiohead fanatic

who can accept that I very much like, but not adore, Radiohead. I put Bitches Brew on for him. Ten seconds later it was off.

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LOUDspeaker | 29 January 2009 - 10:53am
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