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Dear Word People, hands up who is surprised by this....

Iainso's picture

Article on the BBC site. Is this a surprise?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8434905.stm

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It's up there

with the ground-breaking research that discovered that the wheels on the bus go round and round and that the mums on the bus go chatter, chatter, chatter.

That heterosexual men are likely to get aroused when looking at pictures of scantily clad women and that Spurs flatter to deceive nearly every season.

Common sense and rigorous scientific testing has proven beyond reasonable doubt that David Bowie is, usually, the answer.

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Sheev | 31 December 2009 - 10:27am

I agree

As usual............

Especially the bit about Spurs.

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Lunaman | 31 December 2009 - 11:34am

Also...

...the recent study that has proven once and for all that bears poo in the forests.

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Iainso | 31 December 2009 - 12:50pm

You

heard about the Pope. Yeah, really.

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DogFacedBoy | 31 December 2009 - 1:15pm

No!

You're kidding.

I have heard that the Coffee in McDonalds is hot, mind you. They should put a warning out about that. Oh.....

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Iainso | 31 December 2009 - 2:31pm

Not me

I saw this and was struck by

For a person thinking they were drinking 7.5 units a week, the extra measures would equate to 17 units.

Who on earth thinks they drink '7.5 units a week'?
The whole units business has obviously failed if it was intended to make people drink less. Surely, if you want to set 'safe' limits it would be better to say 'two bottles of wine a week for a man'? (I think that's about 20 units of wine at about 13% alcohol, but the units red herring is so confusing it's impossible to tell without opening up Excel.)
Incidentally, a friend gave me a bottle of rather nice port for Christmas and as I was enjoying a glass last night, and I find that just the one really will do with port, I read up on port in a wine guide, where I discovered that Pitt the Younger had to drink a bottle of port a day on doctor's orders. He was 14 years old at the time.

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Gatz | 31 December 2009 - 10:31am

ahhhh

those late 18th century people and their mahoosive life expectancies ;-)

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Glenbervie | 31 December 2009 - 11:37am

Don't know what you're on about

Pitt lived to be 45.
In the same book, Hugh Johnson's A Life in Wine, I read about a news story from Paris in the 1960s. A labourer had been sacked for being habitually drunk, and took his employer to court on the grounds that he may have been drunk, but no more than any of his colleagues.
He lost, because it was discovered that while his colleagues were drinking an average of 6 litres of wine a day each he was getting through 16 litres.

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Gatz | 31 December 2009 - 12:12pm

This is why I love the Fench

despite everything!

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Steven C | 31 December 2009 - 1:30pm

Nelson's Navy - each crewmember...

...waged war on a gallon of beer a day, when available. When the beer spoiled or ran out, then half a pint of rum was issued. Something to think about the next time you are admiring the height of the main mast of HMS Victory. In choppy seas, a man at the top could be swung in a circle with a 90 ft diameter. (If I remember my Patrick O'Brian correctly)

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nicktf | 31 December 2009 - 8:31pm

...three to four units a day for men...

Oh, man... I'm glad I read that article.
I thought it was three to four bottles a day... Which reminds me, there's a nice Rioja in the rack. It is 11 a.m. yet?
Got to dry out soon... back to work Monday.
Happy New Year, hic...

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prezbo | 31 December 2009 - 10:36am

The assumptions behind the

story are fundamentally flawed .
The basic facts about alcohol in Britain is that most people are moderate drinkers and in fact the per capita amounts are falling year on year. So we need a series of targeted message about sensible alcohol "use" and not this broad brush "binge booze Britain sozzled geordies lasses mooning at cameras" moral panic headlines.
I'm sure many of the Massive like a drink but probably not many of you have mooned at BBC 3 film crew in a long while. So we need to look at the issue of drinking in a complex way similar to complex view society has of drink in the first place. This means targeting people who clearly do have problems with but avoiding nonsense like this that just hacks off moderate drinkers and passes those in serious need of help by in their haze of denial.

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Chris G | 31 December 2009 - 10:46am

I hate stories like this

not because of what they actually say (which is stupidly obvious as pointed out above) but because dwelling on them for anything more than a few seconds puts me in great danger of turning into Daily Mail Man ("why oh why, broken Britain", etc etc).

Yet another reason to use the Word website as the fount of all knowledge, and ignore traditional news sources.

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Douglas | 31 December 2009 - 11:07am

The interchangeable topic

It doesn`t matter the subject/ topic, the laziness and sloppiness of these journalistic `pieces` is really wearing thin now. People reading things like this and actually believing the content must be desperate for something to beleive in. Yes it probably is a quiet news day, lets at least be grateful for that. Now wheres that bottle of JD...

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gerry d | 31 December 2009 - 1:41pm

Its the same...

...as the rolling new channels. So much space to fill, so why not fill it with crap. It does my head in.

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Iainso | 31 December 2009 - 2:33pm

No shit Sherlock

You can tell it's a quiet news day, can't you?

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robram | 31 December 2009 - 11:11am

A measure

I only pretend I drink modestly when completing insurance declarations!

I think a large part of the problem with pouring a nip for home consuption is the size of the glass. Yes the glass is too big.

When I was a child a nip glass only contained 25ml of whisky or whatever your tipple was. But as tastes changed and people wanted mixers with their drink there became a requirement for larger glasses/tumblers to be used. Now when you pour in a 25ml measure into one of these glasses it can sometimes barely scrape up the side of the glass. Now you don't want to appear mean spirited (boom boom!) so you add more spirits until you get what you consider to be a fair amount in the glass. Hey presto, you are pouring a double or even a triple nip on occasions.

Anyway, it's new year. Pay no attention to the 'experts' and enjoy the festivities.

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ardnortrupshot | 31 December 2009 - 12:07pm

Hands up

baby, hands up. give me your heart, gimmie gimmie

*dances into Xmas tree with huge cigar and generous tumbler of glenfiddich*

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DogFacedBoy | 31 December 2009 - 12:09pm

I thought the whole point of having a drink at home

was precisely that you can pour yourself a decent measure and not one of the under-sized, over-priced 'shots' you get in a pub.

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Mark JF | 31 December 2009 - 1:22pm

My very thoughts

I'll have another.

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Beezer | 31 December 2009 - 1:48pm
stimpy | 31 December 2009 - 2:08pm

Or...

..Oi! Are you looking at my wife! Outside, Now!

Happy New Year to all. Please Drink Responsibly!

Now, where's that bottle of Cava?

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Iainso | 31 December 2009 - 2:29pm

"(hic) Am I really...? Oh mate! Let's... lets always

be mates. Just me and you an... Oh I've just puked over my shoes...

Christ, I've wasted my life... (sobs)"

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Beezer | 31 December 2009 - 4:55pm

Glass?

No problems if you drink the whisky straight from the bottle...

One present I did not expect at Christmas was a bottle of iichiko Shochu. As it is less than an hour to 2010 in Japan I shall prepare myself to toast in the new year and then dine on a traditional stew currently being prepared downstairs by a Japanese friend.

http://www.iichiko.co.jp/en/product/silhouette.html Kampai!

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Beany | 31 December 2009 - 2:12pm

A single gin in my Dad's measurements...

is roughly a quadruple in anyone else's.

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Patrick Crowther | 31 December 2009 - 2:34pm

BBC in Research Shock

The biggest surprise for me is that there was an article on the BBC web site that appeared to get quotes from more than one source. If you really want a example of the BBC just making up a story go here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8435887.stm
I'm confused about what I'm supposed to be confused about! The VAT rate rises at midnight but retailers will still be able to set their own prices - isn't that what happens all year round?

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JohnW | 31 December 2009 - 3:30pm

*cough* made up figure

The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) estimates that the 13-month tax cut helped boost consumer spending by £6.8bn, although the British Retail Consortium (BRC) says it has had a "very limited effect".

Lies, damn lies and statistics. A bit like me nipping down to the pub and benefitting the local economy by £1.5m, as is oft quoted whenever something happens in Manchester. Think of a figure, any figure, and double it.

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Beany | 31 December 2009 - 3:39pm
Grant | 31 December 2009 - 3:54pm

That

has become my website of the year. Where did that spring from? Love the Mark Hughes story. 8-}

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Beany | 31 December 2009 - 4:28pm

All the news that's fit to print

I've never seen it before either. I think that I'm going to get all my news next year from a combination of NewsArse and The Onion. If I need to know anything else that's going on in the world I'll probably be able to read it on this site!

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JohnW | 31 December 2009 - 10:38pm

When I'm slugging Grouse from the hip flask, I can't see

how much of the damn thing I've glugged, so measures don't come into it. All one needs is a back up flask in the glove box of the Landie just in case. As long as I can still focus on the safety catch once I've got both barrels loaded, there's no problem. Mind you, I seem to get through an awful lot of clays these days without hitting too many.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 31 December 2009 - 5:20pm

Beginners luck methinks

Vulpes,

On my first visit to clay pigeon shooting, and indeed the first time I had even held a gun I got 25 hits out of 50. I was rather chuffed by that. Sadly no hipflask though...went for a nice pint afterwards.

Just thought I share that with you.

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gerry d | 31 December 2009 - 5:30pm

Under

the influence, at the wheel and trigger happy - Vulp, we salute you.

Tell me you were wearing a tux, an antique Rolex - and the blonde you were with - a satisfied smile

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Sheev | 31 December 2009 - 5:39pm

Units..

Without looking it up on Google, does anyone know what a unit of alcohol is in plain terms? Few do.

It is 10ml of pure ethanol. So a litre of 13.5% wine contains 13.5 units of alcohol. And a standard 75cl bottle contains 13.5 x 0.75 = 10.125 units of alcohol.

So the 440ml can of 5% lager in front of me should contain 2.2 units.. checks..

Phew.

Do I win any smartarse points?

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Lenny Law | 31 December 2009 - 7:32pm

That's the point

But isn't that the point of points? If the labelling was consistent (which of course it isn't - I've yet to see the points printed on the pump in a pub) we wouldn't need to worry about the % reading.... not that I really worry about the points system either!

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JohnW | 31 December 2009 - 10:33pm

If you stick the beer in the freezer

would that be frozen points?

I'm just going outside. I could be gone for some time.

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Beany | 31 December 2009 - 11:09pm
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