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Dave Amitri - New Word Issue Warning - 'Best & Worst'
Posted by Georgedivided on 9 January 2012 - 5:27pm.
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Just what I was about to say
Nevertheless, hats are in the air at the Gatz household as not only is my Thea Gilmore review printed, but The Light`s daughter is one of the young Bob Dylan reviewers. For that I will even overlook the dissing of Alexander MacCall Smith.
Not just Amitri Snr
The only thing I agreed with was Frankie Boyle! As a fellow Paisley Buddie my hatred and shame he came from my town has no end. The shame only matched by Sir Fred the Shred, also from Paisley.
Actually the worst I can broadly agree with although a bit harsh on Del Amitri.
My main problem is the best. Whit! Help ma Boab, Jings and Crivvens.
Billy Connolly? He was mildly funny about 15 years ago. Mind you I'm bitter on behalf of one of my mates, a rabid Partick Thistle fan who in the early days of his continual torture stood behind Connolly who also shared the pain.
That was until Martin O'Neil turned up at Celtic and the bold Billy pissed off to be their famous "lifelong" supporter.
I can genuinely think of about 100 people better than 80% of that crowd!
Eric Liddell would be man in the orange box.
Didn't Mr Connolly
..also frequent Ibrox atone time. Oh well good on him for not pandering to those bigoted neanderthals
as one of those bigoted Neanderthals of which you speak
no he didn't! wouldn't have let him through doors of our hallowed ground. We me maybe broke but we still have standards.
Jim Kerr (no relation thank God) hung around Ibrox for a while when Mo Johnson played for us as he was a mate of his. Went back to the unwashed when Mo left.
Well
that's alright then.
Frankie Boyle was the only one you agreed with?
so what's yr defence of "Doctor" Gillian McKeith, Ross King and Russ Abbot's "hilarious" C.U. Jimmy character then? ;)
and where's Ivor Cutler?
that's what I want to know!
The further I got through the 'Best Of' list...
the more I thought he was going to be the chosen one.
"He's down the road."
Would you like me to call him for you?
Simple Minds???
Really?
Mr Currie and his Moribund Miserablists for me anyway. Pfffft.
Come on The Word.
You have a list of crap Scottish folks which doesn't include Hue and Cry? I challenge anyone to read Pat Kane's "The Play Ethic" without wanting to murder him.
Good ones which doesn't include The Family Ness? Not a single Fence Collective person or Beta Band alumni? Surely the mighty Eddie Mair had to be in there somewhere? Tom Weir?
And as for choosing Billy Connolly over Alasdair Gray, SHAME ON YOU DEMPSTER! 1982 Janine is the greatest novel which no one seems to have read apart from At Swim Two Birds. Lanark and Poor Things aren't to be sniffed at either...
However Bill Paterson is definately the daddy. Effortlessly cool, I completely love him.
Tom Weir
hell yes
Hear Hear
Gray and Paterson are two great shouts.
Agree entirely
re: Kane's crapness and Gray's heroism.
No Jerry Sadowitz?
You ******** **** **** **************
Agree with Ivor Cutler best list ommision but also, no Edwyn Collins - shameful.
And Belle & Sebastian *runs away*
The case of dave amitri vs the word
It seems that honour is at stake here. Perhaps a duel is in order (at the very least duelling banjo's). From what I remember from an episode of James may's man lab you need to slap mark Ellen with a glove and need a second. I would offer my services but Hepworth (surely Mr Ellen's choice) looks like he could handle himself. If it comes to banjo's maybe Hannah could do it it can't be that different to a ukele!
Clearly, the greatest Scots are...
TEENAGE FANCLUB!
Aye..
and....
regards to best...Chic Murray-surely he deserves a mention
And Chic Young in the worst
.
And
kevin Bridges
Oh dear, you forgot to include...
Gerry Rafferty. Burnistoun. Chic Murray. Teenage Fanclub. The Blue Nile. Brian Cox (no, not that one). King Creosote. In the Best of, of course.
And no mention of any football related people? How queer.
You could fill a good chunk of the magazine with the Worst, mind.
Best: how about
David Hume (moral philosophy), Adam Smith (economics), Adam Ferguson (sociology, sort of), James Clerk Maxwell (physicist), James Hutton (geology), Admiral Thomas Cochrane (template for Master & Commander), RLS and John Buchan (writers), Lorna Moon (Strichen lassie who ran away to Canada with a commercial traveller, and eventually became a Hollywood screenwriter of the 1920s), and and and and and...
I take back all I said about Alasdair Gray...
... on the grounds that I had completely forgotten all about David Hume.
I have also just remembered James Findlayson. Who he? He's only the baddie you see in every other Laurel and Hardy film!
And also Stan bloody Laurel. Born in Lancashire but brought up in Rutherglen.
Whither...
...Kelly Marie?
Paisley?
/doo doo, doo doo, doo doo. doo doo
Or...
Aneka?
And Sheena Easton in The Worst?
Come on, what's the matter with you. Surely "U Got The Look" and "Sugar Walls" means she's excused.
Best - was also thinking of Chic Murray and King Creosote. And Billy MacKenzie. And Fay Fife. And John Laurie. And James Finlayson.
Or as James Finlayson would say about the list, "D'ooooooh"!
From this side of the morning,
I couldn't care less, it's a shame you take the opposite view but it won't mean I kiss this thing goodbye. I feel a little empty because it appears that when I want you, you're gone. If nothing ever happens I won't move away because I'm still satisfied with just a hatful of rain.
I won't take the blame because the first rule of love is to take it just like a man not behind the fool. This won't be my downfall because I've had enough bad news to last a life time and even though from when you were young the ones that you love lead you nowhere, sometimes I just have to say your name. And remember as soon as the tide comes in it might as well be the surface of the moon
Wise words mate
Wise words indeed
The Whole Word Is Quiet. They really said that!
I'm an unbeliever. Here and now three little words cry to be found.
Well Dave, if anyone was going to say it...
... it might as well be you.
Although..
...despite the mysterious non-appearance of Kelly Marie, I have to say I laughed heartily at it.
More Sarah Dempster, I say. I love her pieces.
Me too
Haven't seen the article but I am looking forward to the appearance or indeed non-appearance of the guy in a helmet who used to swing a broadsword round his heid while singing. I often wondered how things went for passers-by while he was building up his skills.
Jesse Rae
Or the MSP Candidate for Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire 2015, as he now wishes to be addressed...
Many thanks
Can I assume from your nom-de-plume you were down there in the front row at an early gig?
...and here he is in full glory
(Jesse Rae/Over The Sea)
Thanks Stimpster
Sounds as odd today as it did over 25 years ago. I guess that Scottish borders funk genre never really caught on, did it?
Although I do believe he also wrote Odyssey's truly magnificent "Inside Out".
I'd never
Heard, seen or even heard OF that tune - and I must say I really enjoyed it!
If
He'd let go that high up - it would have been nasty
PS Dead right about Odyssey, rarely mentioned but as you say some really wonderful songs that I adored as a teenager - including Inside Out
Here is a promo shot for that song - I hope you like their new direction
I'm away at the mo'
So this month's "best and worst" will be Scots people will it, then?
Decided by whom? And will they who decided be prepared to defend their argument outside?
I suspect not.
As you were, ladies and gentlemen.
One of my absolute fave moments on this website
Was when somebody was getting irate about crap slogans for airports a year or so back - "Above us only sky" etc. Another poster suggested "Glasgow airport - you're DEED"
Perhaps not as fanciful
As you may think. Prestwick airports slogan, printed in huge pink letters on the terminal building, is "Pure Dead Brilliant". Does anyone really want to see the word "dead" in connection with air travel?
Best and Worst
has always been deliberately contentious and there to provoke a reader reaction. A better one than usual, therefore, because it's provoked more of a reaction than usual.
Of course it's still mostly wrong. As usual.
Billy Connolly and Alex Harvey seem to be in each other's rightful places, for instance. Simple Minds are on the wrong page and Oor Wullie & The Broons, Ivor Cutler and Fay Fife are inexplicably absent from the Best list.
OTOH, on the Worst list she's nailed Runrig absolutely.
Where's
Pat Nevin - the most under-utilised football pundit around?
Or how about Neil Oliver?
It's maybe a generational thing Rikki Fulton not making it in, but how does Rab C Nesbitt make the cut, but not Jack and Victor?
And chez honestman someone else might also champion the cause of David Tennant.
Ha!
How well you know me, husband dear!
Ahem, anyway...
YES, WHERE'S DAVID TENNANT?
and King Creosote is a major omission.
Pat Nevin!
I have met him. All I can say is WORD PEOPLE! HE IS A SERIOUS CANDIDATE FOR YOUR FINE MAGAZINE.
Alan McGee
post 2010 should be on the 'Worst Side'. Constantly moaning to the Music Press about how much he hates music (why not stop talking to the music press then, you dick?), slagging off most of the bands that made him a very decent living for the past 30 years, and applauding the PIAS Warehouse fire which threatened to put some of the present day Alan McGee's out of business. He also said "people who don't have kids are freaks". What a miserable, mean spirited, rotten old fuckwit. Bugger off, Retire and shut the f**k up.
The best thing
Billy Connolly did was the theme to Supergran.
Did Supergran or The Scunner Campbell make the list?
If you have tears prepare to shed them now
Supergran was in the 'worst' list.
Oh yes.
Not actually the worst but in there...
Additions
Best
Jim Clark
Jackie Stewart
Graeme Obree
Johnny Beattie?
Or failing that, Maureen.
And not forgetting
the ultimate Scottish nationalist:
See also, McGlashan writes the play Travel in Time "when a man invents a time machine, goes back to 1965 and shoots Geoff Hurst".
See also
Surprising omissions
Best
Iain Banks
Iain M Banks
James Kelman
Ali Smith
Dick Gaughan
Bruce Morton
Janice Forsyth
Michael Marra
Christopher Brookmyre
Saint Andrew
Worst
Simple Minds
Alex Salmond
Haven't got this issue yet
but it's great to hear The Sweet's lead singer is finally getting the respect he deserves.
And what of
this gent?
Shurley Shome Mishtake
No, not Sean Connery, but the mighty Frankie Miller
(Frankie Miller, He'll have to go).
Many thanks to the great El Hombre Malo!
Best: Alfie Conn
Worst: Bob Wilson
And while we're at it...
Best: Steve "we'll take more care of you" Archibald
Worst: Charlie "champagne mullet" Nicholas
Self deprecating as ever...
We Scots can't half laugh at ourselves. That's a good thing.
More best - Norman Blake, Colin MacIntyre, Emma Pollock, Hipsway, John Niven, Peter Mullan, Arthur Montford, Ian Bell, Ford Kiernan, Greg Hemphill, Peter Capaldi...
More worst - Steve McKenna (proper dransadlantic too), Gerard Butler, Jim Traynor (fitba journo bawbag), etc. I need to stop now, just typing these names is dissolving what's left of my brain.
Thumbs up also to
Middenface McNulty
And Frank Quitely
And the McBam Brothers.
malcolm & Jamie
As mentioned above Peter Capaldi is bloody brilliant. Saw him in The Ladykillers recently, just powered the damn show with his energy
And whither John Gordon Sinclair?
what more can a man do than make a right tit of himself on TOTP for his country in front of a clearly drunk national footie team?
Hijack alert
Quick mention of Edinburgh Mingle on Sunday, Feb 5th at Passorn.
Any more takers?
BTW, were the Krankies listed?
Yes
In the worst list as just generally disturbing.
Francie & Josie
Come on! Rikki Fulton has had just one mention. Him and Jack Milroy were just the best. Milroy is the closest we had in Scotland to an Eric Morecambe. He just was funny. Everything he said, everything he did was just funny.
I had the honour of working with him on two successive nights. His set was going great. At point he turned round to the drummer, doing one of his doubled over laughing moves and said 'oh son, is this not just a load of shite'. Said with such a grin that the drummer near fell of his stool.
I'd love to hear how this clip plays to the non-Scots. I love it to death.
I'm English
(but northern, and a lover of things Scots)
What's not to like about that? It's wonderful!
Wot no Stuart Adamson?
or Richard Jobson? Apols if I missed them. As fellow subjects of the Kingdom of Fife, thought they would have gathered a mention - and Rankin in his own right - Rebus or no....
And Angus from Balamory. Top guy.
And surely, surely....Kerr should have a mention in worst as well as best. Anyone who peddles the soft rock filth that polluted "Once Upon A Time" clearly signed a pact with Satan himself at some point in 1985. And Travis (worst) and Boaby G (Best)...
Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, what have you done....?!
Wot, no . . . .? Kenny
Wot, no . . . .?
Kenny Anderson aka King Creosote - musical genius and all-round lovely bloke!
James Yorkston - ditto
Ivor Cutler - how could you not?
Alex Salmond - one of the most astute politicians around (admittedly that's not saying much)
Dick Gaughan - folk legend
Emmm...
Don't know what I'm more offended by - the fact that they did a Scottish Best and Worst at all (when's the English one, eh? Yeah, thought not. So why does being Scottish make someone a novelty then?) or the fact they left The Phantom Band off the best of list.