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Danny Baker, Stewart Lee & this site
Posted by Albert Edward on 5 August 2011 - 3:38pm.
...are united in this piece from The Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/jul/25/stewart-lee-danny-...
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I found that unreadable
Total drivel not making much sense.
Anyone care to paraphrase?
Maggoty Lamb called this an 'oft-derided debating forum'
All the rest is background noise after that. He knows how to wound.
He speculates that recent debates here
during a thread about the unmasking of Danny Baker (hence "Baker's Law") might be indicative of a new civility in social media communication. And he suggests that the recent phone hacking scandals might make us all more considerate when we write.
Paragraphs two to four are a meditation on some online remarks by Stewart Lee in which the only coherent thoughts are those of Lee.
Paragraph one is padding.
It's interesting that hardly anything written in this "oft derided debating forum" screams for the need of a sub editor quite so loudly as Maggoty Lamb's own adjective pregnant, punctuation starved, messy minded piece.
IMHO.
Maggoty Lamb
Is this not the second piece from the above to deride the Word's online community? I reckon he / she must be one of the disgruntled anti-clique.
Strange writing-style too.
Makes me feel sick, like when I try to read in a moving car.
Thank god it's not just me.
I thought my eyes had gone wrong. Felt like they were trying to swim backwards toward the brain.
Like trying to read in a moving car...
Yes Spot on! I thought it was just me.
I couldn't be arsed reading the whole thing
Too many sentences that took up entire paragraphs.
'Maggoty Lamb' tends to come out with "oft-derided" articles like that, which is why he/she sticks to using a pseudonym, I suppose.
Glad it wasn't just me
I have had a beer but Mrs C is currently watching the Code and that makes more sense!
To the author of taht piece I say
YDFMD
and I say to him
FOYC
I'm half ashamed to say that
you just made me LOL.
And I have to say
That I have no idea what those letters mean!
What
the frig was that all about? Say what you like about this blog, just say it well.
"Comments on this page are now closed"
I liked that bit best.
What's a Maggoty Lamb
anyway?
Perhaps he's a relative of the 'Salty Dog'
referred to in the blues number 'Candyman'?
or a Saltmarsh Lamb
perhaps?
He's a professional? Paid to write.
And some of the contributors on this site are not. That's fucked then isn't it?
That's just, just, just...
... poor.
That really was
a non piece wasn't it? I read it twice and I still don't know what the point of the article is.
Ere we circle the wagons...
....about what really is a poor piece of writing, (engorged snake construction anyone?) I'd imagine that the people at Development Hell will appreciate the oxygen of publicity in any form it comes.
However, I'd take issue with his 'oft-derided forum' claim...
Does he mean 'twice-derided, by me, forum'?
I've just submitted the entire piece
to Pseuds Corner.
I didn't read it...
... as a direct attack of this blog, but "the online comment community" as a whole.
I think you are correct
"the oft-derided debating forum that is the online comment community"
Nah. You're being too generous
The Word Message Board is not the..... But the revelations in the magazine's podcast that "the only active thing"...Danny Baker...managed to do in the course of his recent ilness was to make mischievous contributions to that oft-derided debating forum...
He means you brother.
Or, to throw him a bun, he's failed to say what he means. Again.
Well so what?
... it's only an opinion. Isn't that what online forums are about anyway?
Umberto Eco / Maggoty Lamb
Has anyone ever seen them together in the same room at the same time?
Wanker
.
What I don't understand...
Who exactly is deriding us? I've never seen this site mentioned anywhere except the odd passing mentions on other forums and in Word-related publications.
Quite
but we *can* be seen afar off in surprising [to me] ways
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/they-can-see-our-pub-there
We Are Word Massive
We are Word Massive,
No-one likes us,
We don't care.
(or give a figurative toss)
You must all be cleverer than I am...
as I honestly couldn't make head or tail of what he was saying. It read like gibberish to me.
Does PE still do
Pseud's Corner?
If so, I have a contender
Hideously unreadable
Like being stuck on a train next to a man arguing about what to have for dinner with Alain De Boton.
However, the Stewart Lee piece (I understand he is uncontentiously adored on here) is one of the funniest pieces of writing about music I've ever read. It was Backwards 7 brilliant even though I had to google Ithell Coloqhoun and her magical goose.
Here it is:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/10/stewart-lee-damon-al...
Um
I'd have thought fava beans and a nice Chianti would complement the texture quite well ?
Next week
An Aphex Twin retrospective from Michael McIntyre.
Flippin' 'eck
Prose so artificially florid it smells like Impulse.
Just write what you bloody mean so we can all understand it, sunshine. Perhaps if more people did that there would be fewer vicious slaggings on the forums because we'd all have a clue what everyone else is on about.
As always
when reading a virtually impenetrable piece like that, I instinctively assume that I'm simply not clever enough to understand it.
Even so, heavy-going or not, I didn't see much in it that warranted such an unfettered Lord Of The Flies-style feeding frenzy of personal abuse toward the writer.
Oooh that's a bit OTT isn't it?
most of the above is good natured, good humoured mock exasperation and as always is far more reserved and polite than some of the barbs you'll find thrown at writers on say...the Guardian Website.
I'm sure Magotty will think it's all hilarious (and probably glad anyone has bothered to read the article).
Er...Oh. Seems i've unwittingly
inspired part of this "article" as the writer quotes this blog entry wot I wrote. Not one of my best, in fact reading it back it's a pile of shit but I never expected it to be part of a Guardian blog article otherwise I'd have tried harder.
For the record, when I used the abbreviation 'circs' I was aping Mark Ellen who occasionally uses the phrase 'reduced circs' on the Podcast when referring to former members of obscure Prog rock bands or members of China Crisis and I figured most readers would get the reference.
Quoted out of context on some Guardian blog thing it makes me sound like a bit of knob. I write better than Magotty Lamb though, and I got better comments than his or her article did so that's some consolation.
It's only modesty
that's been holding you back all these years, I expect? ;-)
Misquoting?
Are you telling me that the British press have a tendency to misquote people or take them out of context. Blimey I am astonished!
Pin it on the wall as a great success!
A REAL magotty lamb..
..would write better than magotty lamb.
The Author(ess?)
must be writing for an exclusive/limited audience or constituency, in his or her mind. Either that or it is pure ego masturbation.
Isn't the whole point of communication to pitch your message at a level that can be understood by the largest audience possible?
I'm surprised that any sub-editor (if they still exist) let such a piece see the light of day unedited. Unless of course they wanted to see the writer make a fool of themselves.
Of course the whole thing could be 'ironic', or written to stimulate controversy, or an argument. Or just a personal message.
Oh, okay
I thought he/she was just having some fun with the 'best sentence award' concept. Shows you what I know.
But
he doesn't manage to connect the "best sentence" and "Baker's Law" ideas at all. That's why, I think, a sub ed would say do something with the second half but lose the stuff at the start. Good writers start down blind alleys all the time. Then they think better of it and retreat. I expect if you examined the waste baskets of your super soaraway Word you'd find some awful s**t in there...
Must we ...
... fling this filth at our pop kids?
Hmm
didn't want to do that
Typical Guardian comment piece
Maddening because its the only paper who's politics I agree with but - snide, materialistic, better-than-you urban smart-arsery is their stock in trade
So what?
the fact that some can be precious enough to get enraged over a poorly written piece on another blog is staggering.
Who cares?
Amused, not Enraged
I refer the right honourable gentleman to the answer I gave earlier:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/danny-baker-stewart-lee-site#comme...
Written by a dyslexic?
No idea what most of that means. All very odd. Particularly laughable are the "unabashed idealism of the Corinthian enthusiast", and "we symbolically set aside any lingering unease..."
I do feel the need to point this out though - I think you'd find yourselves a little less "derided", if you'd all stop referring to yourselves as "The Massive". In the 90's that joke was funny, perhaps used by Ali G when referring to the inhabitants of Staines. But now all it tends to suggest, is a very large group of over 40's, perhaps with a weight problem. If you find the term "Massive" used in the Podcast, then can I make a suggestion that it may be used with the same double meaning? Just a vague possibility there folks, take it or leave it.
It's a fair comment
and I can imagine plenty of people would look at the collective noun in an unfavourable way but...
...no one here really takes it seriously do they? It's as self-depracating as it is cheerfully inclusive, I reckon.
However, step forward anyone who's got The Massive shaved into the side of their asymettrical haircut or tattooed above the buttocks. I'm happy to be proved wrong.
Cheers
FOYC
Query
Do the middle two letters in that abbreviation stand for "off" and "you"? Just curious...
I thought he meant
Future Your Our Clutter.
The latest album from The Fall.
For what its worth
I do find the term 'The Massive' a bit naff. But what's in a name?
Yours,
Jimmyshoes01
Jesus
What pretentious wanky old toss that article was. No wonder it was written with a pseudonym. If I'd have turned in that edifice of guano I'd have slashed my wrists before a sub-editor had gotten their hands on it.
Still, helps to fill a website in silly season, innit?
A mental download........
...from someone with for shit for brains!
Unless.............tum, Tum, TUMMMMM, has anyone ever seen Maggoty Lamb and Danny Baker in the same room at the same time?
can somebody please give maggoty lamb
a word limit, a few commas and some full stops.
and
a f-in' smack 'round the chops.
As my old dad used to say
"That's the trouble with your game, boy. Not enough right handers dished out"
YDFMD
i quite enjoyed it
but i did used to read all of the sleevenotes on ztt records. Can still recite a few too (ducks).
Got a Raincoats T-shirt too...
And I....
Read all of 'the cappuccino kid' instalments.
me too!!!
can only recite tiny bits
"tally-fucking-ho" being a personal favourite