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My Dad was too young to fight in WWII - he was sixteen when war ended. Nonetheless he had to make his way into adulthood and a family life in times of austerity. Rationing existed for a few years after he and my mum married and he told me on many occasions that they struggled to make ends meet and his weekly wage regularly ran out by the Wednesday.
He was stoic - a word probably invented for him and countless thousands of other dads of his time. He wasn't showy, he got on with things.
I came along after they were married for 5 years - first born, followed by my brother 4 years later. Our family was complete.
Dad was a motor mechanic all his life - I used to tell my mates when I was younger that my dad knew everything there was to know about cars and, you know what?, he probably did. He always fixed the neighbours cars, never charging them but often accepting a packet of fags as payment.Mum and Dad rarely argued. My Dad made me feel safe as a child and looking back I value that. He never told me he was proud of me but I knew he was. I remember getting into a brawl in my back garden with a bigger kid and my dad urging me on to give him a good hiding. Dad made sure we went on holiday every year and he took us to the Cotswolds most Sundays. My brother and I hated it then but looking back we didn't - we go there now at any opportunity and appreciate the beauty he told us about. My dad didn't spend his money on himself. One of the few hobbies he had was building remote controlled model aircraft. He spent an eternity building one and the day came for the inaugral test flight. We drove to Fish Hill just outside Broadway and the aircraft took off well but unfortunately got stuck in a 60' Oak Tree never to be recovered.
As a plane spotting enthusiast my dad took me to air displays all over the country. As a keen middle distance runner they also took my brother to various sports meetings.
As a teenager I know I was cantankerous and probably disrespectful but he put up with me and my 'dreadful' music. Into adulthood we shared his coarse humour - it could be bleak but it was never ever aimed at anyone. Dad couldn't be cruel in that way. He taught me to stand up for what I believed in. He taught me loyalty and values but not to blindly follow authority. When I left to work in Miami for a couple of years he took me to one side out of earshot of anyone else and said 'Steve, don't worry if it doesn't work out, you will always have a place here'.
I didn't need his offer but it was comforting to know it was there to fall back on. He has also been a great Grandad although the Grandchildren don't always understand the humour.

Why am I telling you all this? On thursday my dad was diagnosed with Bowel Cancer. He had a CT scan on friday and will get an MRI tomorrow.The prognosis will come later in the week and I hope that it can be treated and we can have some more time together. I am not writing this for sympathy it is more a case of putting down in words what is going round in my head. Whatever the current prognosis is he is nearly 82 and I know he won't be around forever. Unfortunately it is life and we all have to live it. I know one thing though he was a bloody good Dad and I will always cherish that. Thank you for listening and for anybody unfortunate enough to be going through the same thing cherish them because they are precious.

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Thanks for sharing this, Steve.

Your dad sounds ace. I really hope the prognosis is a positive one.

All the best
Hannah xxx

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Hannah | 13 March 2011 - 8:05pm

Once again..

..I'm reminded why it is that this is the only blog I follow. There's nowhere else quite like it. All the best to you and your Dad Steve.

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Prestonia | 13 March 2011 - 8:10pm

All the best

for you and your dad and, as Hannah said, thanks for sharing.

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Mike_H | 13 March 2011 - 8:13pm

The 20's and 30's generation

can still teach us a lot. My Dad was stoic and he worked hard like yours, it's quite a simple plan for success really isn't it? Good luck this week Steve thoughts are with you and yours.

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Dave Amitri | 13 March 2011 - 8:17pm

My dad, though a few years

My dad, though a few years younger than yours, had the same bowel cancer diagnosis late last year… it hit me and my mum & my sister like a punch in the face & that was nothing compared to what it did to him. There are few things worse in life than seeing your old man cry because he's scared.

Constantly driving back north (He's in Filey, I'm in Brighton) to drive him to & from hospital appointments (I'll take a taxi, he said. Er, no you won't...) gave me plenty of time to reflect on our lives together and those reflections gave me the strength to get through those dark months.

I hope your lovely reflections above give you that strength too.

My dad brought me up as a Rugby League fan (it's still the first topic of every conversation we have) & I found myself dragging boxes of old programmes out of the attic and reading through them & savouring the memories they brought back. For Christmas I got us both tickets to this years Challenge Cup Final at Wembley, in the posh seats too, right next to where they present the trophy. It's in August. I didn't need to say it out loud, I wanted to give us both something to aim for…

Anyway, a few weeks ago, after a final operation just before Christmas, my dad got the all clear. Seems they caught it early. Difficult to write about that feeling & the changes that has brought to our lives without leaning on cliches… but that's fine by me. We're closer as a family, grateful to all the fabulous NHS staff who helped him, value our time together more etc, etc, etc & we're both really looking forward to that trip to Wembley in August.

I can only hope that everything goes as well for you & your dad over the coming weeks & months. It's a tough thing to go through & I know not everybody gets the end result we did but here's really hoping you do… and here's to the Dads… they're irreplaceable aren't they…

Take care.

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nebraska1982 | 13 March 2011 - 8:44pm

Thanks Nebraska

Your comments mirror so much those I am feeling right now. I had the tears on Thursday, today was posting a tribute. Then tomorrow we face an uncertain future. I went for a cup of tea on friday night and I knew he was in good form when he said 'Fucking hell, have you highlighted your hair?' and the proceeded to take the piss out of me.
I know what your saying about the Wembley Tickets. My dad is very keen on bird spotting and I really have a goal now to take him to the Farne Islands in the summer.

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Steve Turner | 13 March 2011 - 9:13pm

Steve...

That sounds like a good plan. As do the cups of tea..!

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nebraska1982 | 13 March 2011 - 9:39pm

All the best to you all Steve

All positive thoughts going your way

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el hombre malo | 13 March 2011 - 8:48pm

sounds like you and your dad

have a strong relationship - hope the news is good and wish you all the best

Sheev

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Sheev | 13 March 2011 - 8:49pm

Best wishes

and thanks for sharing Steve

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Nick Duvet | 13 March 2011 - 8:53pm

Very moving post.

Your dad sounds like a lovely man. I hope the prognosis is a good one.
Best wishes.

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Mac45 | 13 March 2011 - 9:17pm

Good luck to you, your dad & family and...

have you highlighted your hair?

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Beany | 13 March 2011 - 9:34pm

Don't highlight your hair Steve,

I'll never recognise you at the next mingle if you do.

In just a few short paragraphs you've encapsulated the good life led by your dad. The love and respect he has taught you is his greatest achievement.

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drakeygirl | 13 March 2011 - 9:48pm

Dont worry Drakeygirl

it is quite subtle. You will still recognise me.Had to be done, was starting to look like the old man!!

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Steve Turner | 13 March 2011 - 9:57pm

Highlights?

Can just about cope with that but if there's the slightest hint of eyeliner then dinner is cancelled.

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el toro calvo grande | 15 March 2011 - 9:27am

Fingers crossed!

I lost my Dad last year. He was 83. Your Dad just sounds like my Dad, except mine's hobbies were fishing(to get away from us lot) and winemaking(trying to make a decent bottle for as cheap as possible).

Steve Earle's "Regular Guy" isn't about Dads but it always reminds me of mine.

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bigsteviecook | 13 March 2011 - 9:51pm

Best of luck

I admire the way you express my feelings. My dad was told a few days ago that he has cancer as well.

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Kjell | 13 March 2011 - 9:53pm

Really sorry to hear that.

Hope your Dad is ok. Best wishes to you and yours.

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Hannah | 13 March 2011 - 10:12pm

Thank you

very much.

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Kjell | 16 March 2011 - 8:29pm

Beautifully Put

You could be describing my Dad who is three years older than yours. I think that many of us at this point in life, when we know that our parents are not going to be around much longer we really think long and hard about what they mean to us and what they've done for us. I live 150 miles away from my dad but I try to visit whenever I can. "Too busy" rings a bit hollow for me these days. I had to cry off this week and I feel guilty, as he's on his own and despite visits from my siblings, time passes slowly for him sometimes.

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wayfarer | 13 March 2011 - 10:12pm

Blimey

A lovely post and I wish you all the best for the future.

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Dick Grant | 13 March 2011 - 11:11pm

This might not help, but

Both my Gran and my brother-in-law got that, and both were cured. Gran lived on for several years, and died of something unrelated. BiL is as fit as ever (which is reassuring as he is my age). Fingers are crossed.

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Mark Godden | 14 March 2011 - 12:55am

My father died of bowel

My father died of bowel cancer at the age of 65 back in 1987. He was diagnosed in 1981 and it finally got him 6 years later.

Steve - my father was a great bloke, worked in a factory and was very stoic. Not the most intelligent man but was very friendly and popular. I hope things work out well for you both. Spend lots of quality time together.

My only regret was that my dad never met my son who is nearly 15 and is a right character - they would have got on so well.

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andrewdavidlong | 14 March 2011 - 1:10am

A Moving Post

Best wishes to you and yours.

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Seamus | 14 March 2011 - 1:16am

Steve: not much else to add,

Steve: not much else to add, but best wishes from me, as well.

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man.of.soup | 14 March 2011 - 1:29pm

Echoing what everyone else has said,

best wishes to you and your dad.

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mark0510 | 14 March 2011 - 1:35pm

From me too...

sorry I'm not as eloquent as others on here.

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Retro Man | 14 March 2011 - 2:03pm

Another echo here.

My old man is 71 and he drives me batshit crazy. We have fundamentally differing worldviews in many ways: I'm scientific-rational in a way that he would find reductive and joyless. He thinks pop music is a waste of time. He's religious, eccentric, a huge overwhelming presence in any room he's in, and sometimes I think he doesn't have a gram of logic in his head. He'll butt in across conversations in the most infuriating way: it's fifty percent deafness and fifty percent not-listening-anywayness. Sometimes when you're talking to him, it's clear he's cuing up his next comment in his head without listening to what you're actually saying. We bicker, or rather I snipe. He sends me round the fucking twist.

I absolutely love him to bits. He's incredibly kind, selfless in a way that I'm not sure I'm capable of except to my own family. Under his bluff retired headmaster shtick, he's hugely bright and very emotionally perceptive. He's still adored by people he taught, and he retired from teaching in 1995. If I'm out with him, there's a fair chance a middle-aged bloke will stop him in the street, call him "Sir" and shake his hand warmly. It makes me glow with pride every time. He's one of the finest recital baritones never to go completely professional: I've met world-class singers who have told me that they'd have rated him as genuine competition if he'd ever jacked in the teaching and done it full time. He's a natural craftsman, an amazing grandpa, and daft as the day is long.

I love and admire him more than it's possible to express, and I dread the day that health problems catch up to him.

Thanks for posting this thread, Steve - I wish you and your old man all the very best. Here's to the dads.

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 1:51pm

Really hope you have

some more time with your dad you can treasure. It's always been a regret of mine that my father died when I was far too young and immature to appreciate him fully. He was eccentric as hell, used to drink more than his fair share at parent/teacher evenings, embarrased me hugely with his very particular humour many times but he had a strong sense of what was right for me and my sister, the value of education and doing the right thing. He left this earth far too early and my mother never got over his death though she stuck around for a good few years afterwards. I shall never forget what he gave and taught me and always recall going back to Ireland a few years after he died, being met by a cousin off the train who took me to meet the railway signalman and asked him who I was, "that's Stephen's boy" - it brought a smile to his face. I nearly broke down.
Anyway, I can really sympathise with what you're going through - a horrible time - but you'll deal with it, I'm sure and hope you have those precious moments.

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Francis Barry-Walsh | 16 March 2011 - 9:07pm

Not much to add but

all the best to both of you Steve, hope it goes well.

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ian s | 16 March 2011 - 9:48pm

Good news

We got the prognosis this week and it seems it is localised and has not spread anywhere else. They will operate on the 14th April and fingers crossed the operation will be a good success.
Whatever happens I must say the swift attention and help he has got from the NHS has been superb and we should be proud of it.
Thank you to everyone for your well wishes, as I had said it was meant as a tribute and something I wanted to put down in writing. I will print it off because I want to show him what I really feel. If I tell him he will just mutter that I am a silly bugger.
It's ironic that many of you seem to have dads just like mine but then I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. I think I am turning into my old man by the day.

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Steve Turner | 26 March 2011 - 12:30am

Dads...

I'm a 'newbie' and happened across this thread because the name Steve Turner rang a bell (I knew a rock journalist back in the '70s with that name) but when I saw the subject matter, I had to make this my first post.
Doing the math roughly, your dad must be in his early '80s. My father died more than five years ago from bowel cancer...but (and it's a pretty big 'but') he was 96 and had probably had it for 15-20 years before it was actually diagnosed...at age 90! He was operated on and a tumour the size of a small grapefruit was removed. He lived for another 6 years with a pretty good quality of life, except for the last few months.
So I guess what I'm saying is...he (and you) can be optimistic that if it was caught fairly early on and with the efficacy of today's medication, he will be around for a good while yet.
Please pass this on to him, along with my good wishes for a successful operation and speedy recovery. LJ

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Londonjazzer | 29 March 2011 - 12:33pm

Thoughts

I'm often slightly reluctant to comment in blogs/threads such as this for fear of not being able to express myself properly. In my head there's a thin line between sympathy/attention and nosiness. Just because I don't ask questions, it doesn't mean I don't care. Few words can mean a lot to many people, and knowing that you're not alone can be a great source of comfort.

My Dad belongs to the same generation as most of you on here, he's 55. He grew up with The Beatles, Slade, The Jam and then I think he stopped looking for anything new after that. For him, nothing comes close to Glam Rock. I've no idea where I get my love of Bob Dylan from, because it's certainly not him, nor is it my mother. I shall ask her if the Postman from the mid-eighties used to whistle 'Like A Rolling Stone' on his 'round. The same goes with Pink Floyd, Velvet Underground and The Smiths (though perhaps he was too old for them). I do know I love The Beatles because of him though (probably more than he does actually). Ditto Motown and Bowie. He has the ideal job (for him anyway) as a Lorry Driver which allows him to listen to his own radio station 'Dad FM "all the way along the A14 to Felixstowe" '. I've been told the reception is notoriously poor and is only capable of being picked up inside the cab.

He'll probably never win Dad of the year, but if Kerry Katona can win Mum of the year, I'm glad of it. Family splits over the last few years have left me in the middle of a situatuion that I occasionally find difficult to be in, but those are reasons that I need not concern you with. Like a lot of people, he got married to the wrong woman at first, but he's a lot happier now he's found the 'one'. So, despite the circumstances that occured, I've no quarrel with him over it. It's given me two wonderful/frightening nieces for a start.

Steve, I'm grateful for your original post, and hope you and your Dad can spend another good few years together yet. Like I said in my original comments, I'm not too good with expressing me feelings, especially to a stranger, but I hope they're acceptable.

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Tom | 26 March 2011 - 1:07am

Tom,your comments are bang on.

Thanks, I really appreciate them. You are right, I am in the same age group as your Dad but the strange thing about this post is that it transcends age and reaches the emotion of the subject. I hadn't sought nor expected the overwhelming response but it has touched me greatly. I don't know if my dad is okay but the medical world have given us an upbeat prognosis and I trust their opinion. What I do know is IO took for granted that my Dad would be around for ever and these developments have given me an unwelcome blast of reality. Unwelcome in as much as I want him to be around forever but on the other hand I am grateful that the jolt has given me a kick up the backside and hopefully I can make the most out of the time we do have together. Thanks to everyone else who has also posted comments on here.

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Steve Turner | 3 April 2011 - 11:55am

That's great news

all the best to you and your Dad.

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Mac45 | 29 March 2011 - 5:03pm

Dad

Steve, my very best wishes to you & your dad.

I thought your OP was very moving.

my Dad was of the same generation, & my admiration, love & respect for him was, & remains, huge.

I really hope things go well for you, your dad & the rest of your family.

all the best

Les

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jackthebiscuit | 3 April 2011 - 12:10pm

It's never too late......

Enjoy your time together, and thanks for the post, I wish you well.

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stevieblunder | 3 April 2011 - 12:15pm
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