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Cornish Pasties-Traditional Or Flaky?
Posted by David Wright on 22 February 2011 - 1:50pm.
I’m more of a traditional man, but don’t mind a flaky pasty now and again. Also,like shrinking Mars Bars and Cadburys Cream Eggs, the filling content seems to be getting smaller every year.
Has anyone tried one of those pasties which is one half savoury and one half sweet?
I believe Miners used to take them down the pits for convenience,so they could have two meals in one.
The filling must be hot, it’s the burning question of the day-how do you take your pasties?
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Trad,
Dad
Either
or
Traditional for me.
I love a pasty. The nationwide proliferation of decent pasty shops is great. Britain's own Fast Food.
And you don't eat the crust. That's the handle that the miners would hold with dust-encrusted fingers and then chuck.
Not so much dust...
...as arsenic-encrusted fingers.
But
as I'm not a miner, I'm gonna eat the whole damn lot! :-)
Pasty Parlour
Glad to here you are not underage to enter this kind of parlour.
Pasty Parlour
wasn't she married to Ricky on Eastenders?
Nah,
he was the Romford Pele.
Trad
and that means minced beef not chunky steak as perfected by Ivor Dewdneys
Granny's Pasties
In Padstow has taken a fair bit of cash from me over the years. Proper meat and potato ones, but also their banana & chocolate and/or their apple ones also have gone down a treat. A tray of pasties brought back to a holiday cottage on a typical (ie windy and raining)Cornish afternoon and then a nice snooze before heading out for chips and beer.
Cornwall
I'm off to Cornwall in August (near Padstow actually - although I've never heard of Granny's - we always go to the Chough for our pasties) and your description almost makes me hope that it rains..!
"Granny's Pasties"
page 23 of the profanisarus...
As with pub pies
I always ask whether the pastry is shortcrust or flaky. It has to be traditional for me - flaky is all hot air.
By flaky? do you mean *Puff*?
I have to confess I've never heard of such a thing, on a sausage roll yes, but on a pasty??...its distracted me beyond all reasonable expectation this lunchtime...
Incidentally, don't bother trying to extend the discussion towards where the world's best sausage roll can be found, as I already know the answer. Kojonup Bakery on the Albany Highway, Western Australia. I'm only sad that I'll only *ever* have the one... :)
Shortcrust, made with suet.
Potato, swede (sometimes referred to in Cornwall as 'turnip', but it isn't the little white & green thing you'll find by that name in Sainsburys!) and chuck or braising steak, cut small, with some diced onions. Bar seasoning, and some egg wash glaze, nothing else is needed in a savoury Cornish pastie, or it isn't a prapper one.
I love pasties. My mum's pasties are the best in the world, and mine come a close second. God, I'm salivating just thinking about them.
Right, that's tomorrow's dinner sorted, I'm doing oggies.
Sounds good to me, Dr Fox.
I'll have to try that with the suet/short crust pastry. Sounds top.
I don't know how genuine they are
But I like these, normally found at stations.
http://www.westcornwallpasty.co.uk/
Some truly disgusting ones here in Toronto.
The folks who founded it
lived in Carbis bay, a few doors down from us so their provenance is genuine if nothing else
Traditional shortcrust for me
I must confess I wasn't aware that pasties were made any other way. Flaky or puff pastry would just mean it was some sort of pie wouldn't it?
Flaky
I much prefer flaky. Us vegetarians don't usually get a choice of case once we've chosen the filling but fortunately whatever I pick tends to be served in flaky pastry. Not being a pastry fan though I tend to go for the traditional eating method and eat the contents with as little pastry as possible and sling the rest.
Pasty Breaking News
Just read that The term "Cornish pasty" has been given protected status by the European Commission today, so only Cornish Pasties made in Cornwall can be officially called Cornish Pasties.
I still eat the crusty ridge bit at the top too.
Does that mean...
...that the Cornish Pasty franchise you see at railway stations ship pre-made goods up from below the Tamar? I think I'd rather they were made fresh on site.
Not sure if it's the one you mean,
but one of the big suppliers, from St. Austell, make them on site and then ship them frozen for cooking in situ wherever required. Works for me. We always go for the Giant sized ones at about £2.60 each, they'm luverly.
Shipped In From China
I'm afraid it probably does Fraser, unless there's some under the counter oven action going on that the public aren't aware of. I've had some from the outlet at Kings Cross Station and they've normally tasted okay though. Although the same franchise at York station do seem to have ovens behind the counter. The mystery deepens........
This ruling could actually
This ruling could actually hit some small business pretty hard with changes of signage, menus and they will also have to come up with a new name for cornish pasty. I vote for 'Pasty'. Perhaps Sheffield will apply for said protection with the 'hot roast pork sandwich'.
Solution
Call it a Cronish Pasty. Or a C0rnish pasty. Or a Corn!sh pasty. Etc.
iCornish
and have 4,000 different fillings all in one very lovely case.
iPasty
Overpriced, and only available from one supplier, the iPasty cannot use any ingredients that don't come from that same supplier, and can only contain lossy ingredients, thereby excluding the use of organic meat and vegetables.
Pasty 2.0
I wouldn't buy one today because I think you'll find that there's a better version out next month that is smaller but with more filling that you can eat faster.
Overpriced
Maybe. But they look luvverly. *salivates*
You'm one of they
fan-buoys, are you? One of they blokes what loikes iPasties better than the ones what Ivor Dewdney makes?
You poor bugger. Get a prapper meal moi darlin'!
Ivor Dewney
An innovator for sure. Drag and drop has a lot to be said for it but I always found the drop part gave me some issues with corrupted fillings. I remember my first iVor and it changed my life. But the iPastie has made my life easier and I'll never go back.
Thing is with the iPasty however
... is that they just work.
Unless you hold the crimped edge
the wrong way, of course, whereupon the contents drop out.
Part of my Massive London mingle tradition
(if I'm on the train) is a large Cornish pasty from the Cornish Pasty Shop at Euston. It is a challenge to scoff it between Euston and The Prince Arthur pub, but one that I can rise to each time.
So make mine a trad (flaky ones make a mess in the car as well).
I do that as well!
But I cheat and eat it sitting down.
One of them big buggers lines the tum a treat.
Shortcrust all the way
It's just right.
Traditional...
Flaky Puff Pastry be "de debils work"! (Although presented in a lattice stlye it does work for once).
And they've got to be from St Ives - http://www.pengennapasties.co.uk/
Indeed
Those were our pasties of choice when my late wife and I lived in St Ives. Really short pastry. She loved to put some bovril in it.
I suspect that these are the same ones that the Post Office
at the back of the beach at Polzeath sells. They are scrummy.
Help!
I've wandered in from the Chubby Checkers thread by mistake.
This thread is the chubby checkers
evil twin.
weren't pasties invented in Devon though...
as to pastry any which way as long as there's plenty of filling, ideally at ambient temprature not crunchy with ice from late night garage or molten lead temp at the train station.
Cumberland Uprising
Does this also mean that Cumberland Pies etc etc could be "preserved" re their name. This could end up being the food naming revolution,equivalent of the uprising in the Middle East!
Strange things happening...
...last night on the Tony Livesey Radio Show. One of their running themes was Cornish Pasties - Short or Flaky? The Massive spreads it's influence even further.
Sitting on a bench in Falmouth
Traditional Cornish Pasty in one hand Falmouth Packet in the other - bliss. For those who like a bargain the Pasty shop in Padstow sells theirs off for a quid at the end of the day.
Was it a park bench?
... perhaps with snot running down your nose and greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. ...