Are Cool Parents A Good Idea?
In a normal world, teen sensation singer-songwriter Laura Marling's dad would have strapped her down on the MFI settee and assailed her with The Very Best Of Showaddywaddy or the heavenly harmonies of Peters & Lee's Hey Mr Music Man. But instead, according to The Guardian today, he
forced all his daughters to listen to the 1960s folk records he loved: Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan. "Dad would sit us down and say, 'This is real music!' I learned so much so young."
Oh deary deary me.
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According to my research....
...she was born in 1990 and therefore she should have grown up listening to Oasis, the Spice Girls and Keane. I have to say I caught her on some pompous TV show this weekend and I couldn't help thinking that it was an achievement for anyone that young to be so, well, dull. Or is it just me?
OK, so that's the demo...
When's she going to make the record? I'm not necessarily suggesting the thing should be awash with sleigh bells, gongs and Mellotrons - although they certainly wouldn't hurt, to be honest - but what are the production values on display here supposed to be telling us? That only the Tottenham Court Road Tunnel At Rush Hour Sound can adequately frame the lurkal content in all its raw and primal beauty? Ah, OK. Gotcha.
Just what the world needs...
another fey teenage singer-songwriter with an artfully-lit video. Well, I suppose it's cheaper than Mommy calling the therapist.
That's nice, Patrick!
I'm a bit fed up of people making assumptions like these after one 3-minute song. Sheesh.
'Ello, Jude Rogers here, formerly of The Word, and now general freelance character - oh, and I did that Laura Marling interview quoted above in today's Guardian. And I agree that, God, it sounds very trite to hear Laura talk about her dad like this, but if you read the rest of the interview - and, God, perhaps even listen to a bit more of her music - you might realise that there's a lot more to her. I actually think it's pretty amazing that a girl who's just turned 18 is turning out such intelligent, brutal, beautiful music. Or maybe that's just me.
In Patrick's defence
I don't see many assumptions in his comment:
Fey teenager? CHECK
Singer songwriter? CHECK
Artfully lit video? CHECK
Video cheaper than therapy session? DEBATABLE
The airwaves are awash with young female singists at the mo' you must agree, and a surfeit, even of such delights, is still a surfeit.
Why can't 3 minutes be enough?
Shouldn't one three-minute song be quite enough for us to make our assumptions?
In those three minutes she sounds to me like nothing more than a whingeing teen who's spent a few hours studying Paul Simon's Maudlin Acoustic Picking The Easy Way.
So you like her, Jude. Fine. Nothing wrong with that at all. You interviewed her and you liked her even more. Again, fine. But if we can only appreciate the true worth of artists if we not only listen to their music but read every interview and piece written about them, it's no wonder so much music being produced today is so underwhelming: it's apparently not important.
Call me old-school, but for me the music is the message, or at least it should be.
I have nothing against Laura Marling herself...
it's just I feel the world is awash with this type of thing at the moment. And I'm bored stupid by it.
Going to see her in concert
next month - will let you know how it goes.
I would question whether...
...Laura Marling has learned anything from having someone else's mindset forced onto her, rather than being encouraged to think for herself and develop her own tastes.
Surely an important part of evolving your own identity and asserting your independence from your parents is finding music that 'belongs' to you or at least to your generation.
She's around two years younger than me then...
...and I didn't like Oasis. Honestly, I grew up into a record collection that had some great stuff- from Pink Floyd, Van Der Graaf Generator, Colosseum, Yes, Soft Machine, ELP etc. I grew up hearing that so maybe that's why bands of that 60s/70s period continue to really appeal to me. From when I was about 6 I got into The Beatles, Genesis, The Stones, Elvis, Bowie etc. so, to be frank, Oasis didn't mean a thing to me although I was very much aware of them and the whole Britpop thing.
In later years I made a concerted effort to try and 'get' modern indie rock but no, I find most of it so very dull and conservative. Most of my friends/peers were into acts like The Strokes, The Libertines etc. and I had those albums but it didn't take too long to realise that this just was not for me. That terrible NME posturing masquerading as journalism put me off that stuff even further. Some modern acts I do rather like, though, for sure- but relatively few are British or, indeed, indie.
Jesus Christ
Right. That's it. I am now, offically, Tommy from Early Doors.
Rather than "forcing"
Rather than "forcing" his kids to listen to sulky folk music perhaps the twat who reared this wretch should have given her elocution lessons. Don't you just hate that horrible glottal stop posh kids pretending to be "street" do.
Anyway this is what kids should listen to:
But on the other hand.....
My son, aged 21, has recently been turning my ears toward Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis and Curtis Mayfield. And to think the years of (in)doctrine I gave him, making sure the Burritos and Fairport were on permaplay on the car cassette, ungrateful brat...
But
I know it's annoying to hear all about these young neophytes whose parents were seemingly hipper than everyone else around them and force fed their children "proper" music; but it does happen sometimes. I was born in 1971, and my parents were so unfashionable that the only contemporary albums they ever played me during my childhood were things like Elvis Today (1975). I was almost entirely untouched by glam, disco or punk at the expense of the music that they listened to when they were kids, ie. the music of 1954-1969, roughly. I consider this an ideal grounding in life, and don't at all regret that they weren't more contemporary in their schooling of me. My Dad used to drive me to school to Lonnie Donegan; they played either Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, The Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, Elvis Presley et al pretty much every day. It may be fashionable to admit now, but it sure as hell wasn't in the early 80s. I kept my liking of Elvis and The Beatles well to myself.
on a similar note
Alison Goldfrapp (who is great) in a recent Guardian interview apparently use to bunk of convent school and hang around with "Borstal boys" in the 70's and lived in a squat in 80's. Less of rock 'n' roll up bringing more a case of call social services as she was at best 10 in 1979! And as for Ike Turner "loosing" his virginity at the age of 6...
Elvis Today...
...isn't that the one with 'T.R.O.U.B.L.E' and 'Pieces Of My Life' on it?? Excellent tracks both. Didn't get my love of Elvis' music from my parents- neither of them are even remotely fans! Probably got that from watching a film called 'This Is Elvis' at an early age.
One of the guys from The Feeling said that his dad was into punk bands and a surefire way of winding up his dad was to listen to ELO and Supertramp.
That's the one!
My favourite 70s Elvis album. Susan When She Tried, Fairytale, Bringin' It Back, Green Green Grass Of Home...not a duff track on it.
I got the DVD of This Is Elvis for my birthday last year. Two versions, two discs. Worth a look.
JJ's got it right.
There's no need to force feed kids with what you consider to be "proper music". Just play it once in a while, leave it lying around, and don't get too precious when they want to use the hi-fi.
If the sprogs have anything other than cloth ears, eventually, once they've learnt to ignore peer pressure, they'll listen to what floats their boat, not what's on Radio bloody 1 or wherever.
I had access to a great deal of good classical music from my parent's record collection when I was a kid, but they didn't have much pop that had been current during their adolescence. I therefore missed out on a grounding in Perry Como and his peers; not an insurmountable educational disadvantage, I'd wager.
I did however get a good working knowledge of orchestral music, something that has stood me in good stead for many years now. At no point was I told, "listen to this, because it is good music", I was left to explore the LP shelves as I pleased. As for pop, I filled in with King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and Frank Zappa.
Point is, a good record collection is an essential part of a home, and there should be Government subsidies for parents who provide one to their sprogs, on the condition that they don't sit them down and lecture them about it.
Now Hear This
On longish journeys I'll sometimes stick on one of the "Now Hear This" CDs, partly as a bit of relief from Mica, The Singing Kettle etc. and partly just out of interest to see which songs the children like and which ones they don't (they soon let me know). From the recent CDs, my 5 y.o. son keeps wanting to back to Manu Chao, Robert Wyatt and Richard Thompson whereas my 8 y.o. daughter now says her favourite band is British Sea Power. After that, it's then back to Mica, The Singing Kettle etc. The main point though is that they decide themselves what they like best.
I'll sound a bit like Arthur Dent
critiquing Vogon poetry but I really rather liked it.
Too late to be cool
We (6, 8 and 48) spent a You Tube half hour trying to figure out High School Musical after the Year 6 Talent Panel rejected my cherub's homemade poem, saying "we don't want your kind of talent". Charming! Every act seemed to be someone doing the HSM thing. We lasted 10 minutes looking at the lovely girls and boys and then explored Cash (they love this in the car) and stuff like that. I caught my little one (6) singing Death is Not the End to herself the other day whilst battling through her maths homework...
Too late for me to be cool. It takes all my energy just to be. Hello Richard Lowe.
Nice to hear you again!