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Controversial Film Opinions

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Hot on the heels of Native's controversial blog, here's its partner in crime.

To kick things off, here's an opinion to get you spluttering:

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the best Bond Film.

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agreed!

...best Blofeld, best locations, best Bond girl, best skiing, best music... but not the best Bond himself though

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halibut | 12 February 2011 - 3:12pm

Yes, yes

My favourite Bond film, but not favourite Bond. Was just reading Roger Moore's biog (very entertaining, easy read) which states that Lazenby regretted turning down the option of further films, as he thought at the time Bond wasn't his role. He was probably right though.

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Happy Castle | 12 February 2011 - 3:18pm

OHMSS easily one of the best despite Lazenby

Poor George really never got the feel for the role, but he was not as bad as many make out. Want controversy? I genuinely think 'Live and Let Die' is one of the best of the franchise, and that Moore for that one movie at least made an excellent Bond.

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sourdust | 12 February 2011 - 3:25pm

It's definately a good one

Though I prefer Donald Pleasence as Blofeld in You Only Live Twice.

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kidpresentable | 12 February 2011 - 4:37pm

James Bond is just shite.

Preposterous nonsense. Only the music is good.

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ganglesprocket | 12 February 2011 - 6:56pm

Pretty much agree with OHMSS.....

.....as people obsess over 'who' is Bond.
The only vital question is 'when' is Bond.
OHMSS was '69.
If Mickey Mouse had played Bond in the 60s, he would still be better than anyone who played Bond after the 60s.

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ranger | 12 February 2011 - 9:40pm

Live And Let Die

Have an up for your LALD love. Treads a very thin line of exploitation and stereotyping (but not as much as Fleming's book) but has some fantastic villains, great set-pieces and is wonderfully quotable.

"They're heading...for the hill"

Oh and two-fifths of The Beatles made some très funky soundtrack music.

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fedoraboy | 13 February 2011 - 4:59pm

LALD one of the best Bond soundtracks

You get a little bit of everything - some bombastic heavy rock, some New Orleans, some funk, some soul, voodoo drums, and some calypso-influenced cocktail jazz. George Martin did a fantastic job on this.

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sourdust | 13 February 2011 - 6:09pm

some more knowledgeable than me

claim that Connery would not have been right in this film. OHMSS sticks more closely to the book than other Bond films and so required a more vulnerable, less self assured Bond. Whilst a bit wooden, admittedly, Lazenby offered a new version of Bond which would not have been possible with Connery.

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Steerpike | 12 February 2011 - 10:17pm

Connery is a better actor than Lazenby

I've heard that reasoning before, and while it has some validity I'm certain Connery could have pulled OHMSS off. It certainly would have changed the dynamic of the series, as we probably would have had a different Bond for 'Diamonds are Forever' - a much maligned movie that I think is a pretty entertaining B-grade film.

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sourdust | 13 February 2011 - 6:02pm

this is not controversial

its the same drivel that people who dont like Bond have belated about for years and years. its a dull dull movie

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MatDavies | 20 February 2011 - 6:21pm

Blow Up

isn't all that. Wouldn't make my Top 30 60s flicks list.

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Happy Castle | 12 February 2011 - 3:13pm

You are so right

I finally saw it a few years ago and was so disappointed. The 'plot' is wafer thin, and I didn't even think it was particularly stylishly done.

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Johan | 12 February 2011 - 3:30pm

Great

Rolls Royce though.

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Jim M | 19 February 2011 - 10:23am

Picking a Brosnan 007 would have been controversial

The man was born to play Bond, but the movies were dire. The last one may be the worst Bond movie ever

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sourdust | 12 February 2011 - 3:15pm

Brosnan

Born to play Bond? Are you sure? One thing about 007 is that he's meant to be a bit handy. I could have Brosnan, I'm sure I could.

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fatmanjez | 12 February 2011 - 4:14pm

Not all Bonds are hard cases

Brosnan had the 'look' for the role, certainly far more than Craig (who I think did a fantastic job in the reboot). Ian Fleming thought Connery looked too lairy for the Bond role!

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sourdust | 12 February 2011 - 4:38pm

The closest to Fleming's description

is Timothy Dalton. Fleming makes reference to Bond's cruel eyes. Dalton played Bond as a ticking timebomb. Shame his contribution to the canon is so frequently overlooked.

I wouldn't want to get into a fight with Connery OR Craig.

I would also like to point out that I never actually get into fights with anyone. Ever. Which is a wonder considering my big mouth. I could still have Brosnan, though...

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fatmanjez | 12 February 2011 - 4:45pm

"The Living Daylights"

is the only Bond film I've ever seen, at the pictures when it came out. It has put me off ever wanting to see any of the others.

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Wardour | 12 February 2011 - 7:06pm

Hoagy Carmichael

Fleming himself stated that this was the chap that he had in mind when he imagined Bond. (sorry, can't seem to make pictures appear, and i have a cold)If we're sticking to the original conception, Dalton did indeed look the part - he could even do Bond's 'savage grin'. My main problem with Roger Moore is that 1. he looked nothing like Bond, and 2. BOND WOULD NEVER WEAR A SAFARI SUIT!

I love the way that Lazenby's fight on the beach at the beginning of OHMSS is slightly speeded up. It make it look like he's as hard as 10 men.

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halibut | 12 February 2011 - 7:15pm

Sean Connery is now 80.

I reckon he could still have most of us.

I wouldn't spill his pint.

Pierce Brosnan? Ponce. Big nancy-boy. Couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding.

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Lenny Law | 12 February 2011 - 11:47pm

I've never

seen OHMSS all the way through, George Lazenby is a real problem for me in this film. I still say Goldfinger because it had all the classic elements of a Bond film, with the best Bond, the best villian, the best lines, the best car and Pussy Galore. It also has one of the best Bond songs. Controversial eh?

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sirbriancannonhunter | 12 February 2011 - 3:17pm

apart from Dr Strangelove

Kubrick couldn't direct traffic, let alone etc

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DogFacedBoy | 12 February 2011 - 3:25pm

Nah

Paths of Glory.
I'm right.
You're wrong.

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ranger | 13 February 2011 - 8:55am

Ridley Scott

is in terminal decline and has not made a decent film since Gladiator.

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Charlie Gordon | 12 February 2011 - 3:33pm

Brad Pitt

Is one of the finest leading actors of this, or any, generation.

His role as Mickey in Guy Richie's 'Snatch' is one of the finest character performances ever.

Oh, and while I'm on the subject, Snatch is one of the best British films of the last 50 years.

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Paul Waring | 12 February 2011 - 3:36pm

Hear Hear Paul

Pitt's a great actor and so are DiCapprio and Depp. And Hanks.

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fatmanjez | 12 February 2011 - 4:19pm

Deffo

When Catch me if you Can came out I really didn't fancy it.

Saw it on telly recently, and both leads (Leonardo diCaprio and Tom Hanks) are brilliant, and the film is smashing.

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milkybarnick | 12 February 2011 - 6:54pm

Snatch...

...is near the top of my most hated films of all time. Brad Pitt's role of Mickey is one of the worst character performances ever.

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JoLean | 13 February 2011 - 12:12pm

Goldie Hawn's 'Foul Play'...

is one of the masterpieces of 70s cinema.*

* This has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that she gives me the raging horn.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 3:45pm

*Horny Gold*

as I refer to her.

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bassclef (not verified) | 12 February 2011 - 4:30pm

At the risk of lowering the tone

How about a threesome with her and Kate Hudson....

I would get my coat but if you don't mind I'd rather not stand up right now.

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fatmanjez | 12 February 2011 - 4:32pm

A threesome with Goldie and Kate?

Blimey....

Anyone not wishing to collect their coats, I've got somewhere you can hang them..

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Lenny Law | 12 February 2011 - 11:49pm

Eewgh

.

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art vanderlay | 13 February 2011 - 2:18am

Help!

is better than 'A Hard Day's Night'. Okay, so it was little 'Beatles go Bond', but in its favour: in colour, exotic locations, great supporting cast, surrealist interludes (the antics in that groovy shared house for a start: it might have all been accidental alchemy, but it worked; the end credits, Paul in the Wrigleys wrapper, "coming home in all colours", Ringo posting a letter... need I go on), the allusions to Indian culture/music which would prove more influential than anyone could have envisaged. Not forgetting the songs, each encapsulated in their own perfect mini promo film. Okay, and the four of them never looked better. :-)

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Happy Castle | 12 February 2011 - 3:49pm

Different type of film altogether

HDN seemed to aspire to a touch of the 'Angry Young Man', while Help was pure light entertainment. Very enjoyable though, great songs and the lovely Eleanor Bron as well.

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sourdust | 12 February 2011 - 4:10pm

Completely Agree

I love 'A Hard Day's Night' as well, but 'Help' is one of my all-time favourites. I think Richard Lester is hugely underrated as a director, actually.

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Andrew F | 12 February 2011 - 5:10pm

AHDN will always be my

AHDN will always be my favorite but Help is a close second for me mostly because of those little promo films you mentioned of each song. They are perfect. The one for Another Girl is classic Beatles humor with all of them switching instruments and Paul playing that girl. The ski scene for Ticket to Ride. Great stuff.

One of the few remaining Beatles purchases I would really like to make is a DVD or Blueray of all of the Beatles videos of their songs collected together -- both the little promo films of songs from their movies, the song videos (before they were called "videos) that they made on their own, and, topping it all off, the rooftop scene from Let it Be. A Blueray disc with all of that on it would be fab.

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Lott | 12 February 2011 - 5:25pm

Totally agree!

... and I even prefer the soundtrack/album.

I love the shared house that looks like four houses in a terrace from outside, and the vending machines everywhere, and the sunken beds, each with its own phone (on which they talk to each other)... When I was about 8 or 9, I wanted my life to be like that.

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man.of.soup | 15 February 2011 - 1:48pm

Mike Leigh's 'Happy-Go-Lucky'...

is the most teeth-grindingly annoying film ever made.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 3:52pm

The lead character

is certainly "bubbly-meaning-in dire need of a dose of Ritalin", but Eddie Marsan is fantastic and worth the price of admission alone.

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Cadabra | 12 February 2011 - 4:00pm

I went to see it with my then girlfriend...

and walked out. It was painful. If a woman like that exists in real life, I hope to God that I never meet her.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 4:04pm

But.. but..

It's got Eddie Marsan in it! It has to be good!

(c/f Tim Spall)

I am not Mark Kermode.

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Lenny Law | 12 February 2011 - 11:50pm

Being John Malkovich.....

..... i must be the only person that thought it was shit !

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mojitojoe | 12 February 2011 - 4:03pm

you're not alone

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James Blast | 12 February 2011 - 4:52pm

Seconded

horrible characters in a horrible film.

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Grant | 12 February 2011 - 9:13pm

I love it - if for no other reason than...

Catherine Keener - funny as fuck and sexy as hell.

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Rosbif | 12 February 2011 - 11:07pm

Animal House and Halloween

are two of the most important films ever made

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Cookieboy | 12 February 2011 - 4:06pm

Arthur and Forrest Gump

are masterpieces.

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fatmanjez | 12 February 2011 - 4:21pm

I said this

about Forrest Gump being an absolute tearjerker a while ago but was shot down in flames.

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bassclef (not verified) | 12 February 2011 - 4:27pm

Noooooooooooooo!

Hanks was much much better in The Money Pit (really underrated)

Ian

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ip29 | 13 February 2011 - 6:29pm

But his finest hour was

But his finest hour was clearly Bachelor Party:

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sozzlechops | 14 February 2011 - 3:03pm

Usual Suspects

is extremely over rated. It's a boring, terrible film.

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jimmyshoes01 | 12 February 2011 - 4:29pm

strongly agree

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James Blast | 12 February 2011 - 4:53pm

I strongly disagree

The Usual Suspects is superb. Atmospheric, tense, compelling. One of the best thriller/dramas ever made. Up there with Altman's take on The Long Goodbye and Hitchcock's Rear Window.

Other than that, I'm with you chaps

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Sheev | 12 February 2011 - 7:59pm

The Godfather 3

isn´t as good as the first two, but still better than 95 per cent of all the other movies out there.

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Ola Claesson | 12 February 2011 - 4:29pm

No, it's just as bad as everyone says

Andy Garcia + Sofia Coppola is unconvincing to say the least. She can't act her way out of a paper bag. The Vatican element of the plot is sub-'In God's Name' nonsense.

Whenever I see HMV selling the Godfather box set I wish that someone would release a box of just the first two, so that I can pretend 3 doesn't exist.

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Johan | 12 February 2011 - 5:01pm

Sofia Coppola...

... is great in 'Godfather III'. Certainly no worse than Brando was in the first one.

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Andrew F | 12 February 2011 - 5:14pm

An award winning performance indeed,

but unfortunately it was a Razzie.

Seriously, you thought that was a great performance?

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Johan | 12 February 2011 - 5:32pm

She's not the worst actor in G3...

That honour goes to: Al Pacino! Seriously, he is atrocious. And I say this as someone who's admired a lot of his stuff, including more recent films like Insomnia and The Insider. But in G3 it's as if the real Al has been replaced by Peter Richardson doing his Comic Strip caricature. At least young Sofia Coppola had the excuse of not being an actress - what's Al's excuse?

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Rosbif | 12 February 2011 - 6:36pm

as one critic reputedly yelled

During a press screening as Mary Corleone dies on the steps of the opera house, ' Kill her again!'

She did go on to make one or two worthwhile movies as a director but I think there have been few more nepotistic casting blunders.

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Vorgongod | 12 February 2011 - 5:28pm

That dopey indie girl off the online dating advert likes it

But she's probably just saying that to appear more indie and kooky

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simonperrins | 12 February 2011 - 6:59pm

napoleon dynamite

napoleon crock o'shite

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pompeygeorge | 12 February 2011 - 4:38pm

I don't know if i agree but

I don't know if i agree but that was funny :)

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pbobcat | 12 February 2011 - 4:55pm

Agree

My American wife tells me I don't understand the humour (humor)...um, no, its just shit

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David Sutherland | 13 February 2011 - 1:52am

2001

(spoiler)

Nothing happens. In the entire soddin' film.

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pompeygeorge | 12 February 2011 - 4:40pm

It´s one of my favourite films

But I do kind of agree with you. Not much happens. Some things actually do happen though: Some monkeys watch a monolith. A bone turns into a space ship. The space ship docks in just under 10 minutes. Someone on the space ship jogs upside down. Some astronauts watch a monolith. An astronaut flies through some sort of LSD-tunnel, Magical Mystery Tour-style. Paint dries. An old guy (the astronaut) watches a monolith.

And all this in just 141 minutes. What´s not to like?

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Ola Claesson | 12 February 2011 - 8:07pm

Star Wars was drivel

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stimpy | 12 February 2011 - 4:40pm

Worse than that

It was formulaic film-making dressed up to look like something new.

I'm no science fiction fan, but I can see that (in all seriousness) there is more true s-f imagination in a single episode of the Clangers than in the entire Star wars hexology (or whatever you call a group of six films).

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Douglas | 12 February 2011 - 4:53pm

Star Wars isn't really

Star Wars isn't really science fiction though is it? There's no science in it! I think the term "Space Adventure", crap as it is, would be more appropriate.

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pbobcat | 12 February 2011 - 4:59pm

It's just a traditional Western innit?

...but with silly hats rather than stetsons.

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stimpy | 12 February 2011 - 6:47pm

Ah yes

... but isn't this true of a great many other sci-fi films? I offer for the defence - Outland and Blade Runner.

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Steerpike | 12 February 2011 - 10:07pm

Yup. Sci-fI is drivel

In fact, all fiction is drivel. The universe is an interesting enough place without having to make up stories.

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stimpy | 13 February 2011 - 1:57pm

No way!

I couldn't live in a world without fiction.
My sex life is entirely fictitious...

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STD | 13 February 2011 - 5:25pm

A common complaint amongst sci-fi fans

Whenever I see pics of sci-fi/comic book conventions, the male-to-female ratio looks to be about 95% male. Sort of like heavy metal concerts.

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sourdust | 13 February 2011 - 6:14pm

Without imagination

we wouldn't be human.

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Black Type | 13 February 2011 - 7:09pm

Hear Hear!

Stimpy's comment is about as wrong as it's humanly possible to be. And maybe even a bit more wrong than that.

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man.of.soup | 15 February 2011 - 1:52pm

hexology!

Good word man - and it could also be the study of spells.

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Vorgongod | 12 February 2011 - 5:32pm

Agreed

the whole lot.
And who come up with the stupid idea of the prequel? Was this just an excuse to re-life and re-package the SW franchise.

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Rigid Digit | 12 February 2011 - 6:57pm

In addition,

by selling truckloads of merchandise, having sequels that made serious money and proving that silly, shallow, poorly written films could be massively successful, Star Wars did more damage to the film industry than can be imagined, and is largely responsible for the sheer amount of dreck currently passing itself off for entertainment in your local cinema.

And don't get me started on the clowns that take it seriously, want to be jedis, etc etc.

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Sir Tainley Gno... | 12 February 2011 - 10:36pm

Nic Cage - your guarantee

of a duff film, with one particularly hammy 'actor'

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pompeygeorge | 12 February 2011 - 4:46pm

If you'll permit me

That is hardly a controversial opinion is it? Far more controversial to make a case for him being a great actor, surely. And harder, as he is generally pretty ropy, except in Leaving Las Vegas.

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Rosbif | 12 February 2011 - 6:39pm

which had another great performance ..

from the wondrous Elizabeth Shue.

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Charlie Gordon | 12 February 2011 - 11:26pm

nicholas cage losing his shit

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halibut | 13 February 2011 - 12:37am

His worst ever acting

is at theend of this scene. Yes he's supposed to b making an arse of himself but fuck me, its awful

He was double brill in 'Kick Ass' thou.

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DogFacedBoy | 13 February 2011 - 1:12am

oh my god...

i remember a time when nic cage's presence in a film was a guarantee of quality ... yet here we now are with '...killing me won't bring back your goddamned honey!!' and 'not the beees!! not the bees!! my eyes!! my eyes!!!!'

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halibut | 13 February 2011 - 1:44am

Ladyboy DiCaprio

can act

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pompeygeorge | 12 February 2011 - 4:49pm

That may be true...

but he still looks like he hasn't finished potty training yet.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 6:01pm

Strongly agree

He's been given all sorts of leading man roles that he simply can't measure up to. He's got the acting chops for sure, but that's no replacement for the required gravitas. Katherine Hepburn (or even Cate Blanchett) would surely have told him to get knotted.

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Dadwardo | 13 February 2011 - 5:29am

Di Caprio's childlike fizzog is the reason...

I haven't seen any of Scorsese's recent films. I just wouldn't be able to take him seriously.

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Patrick Crowther | 13 February 2011 - 9:03am

I thought that at first

I thought that at first, but he's brilliant. Plus, in The Departed and Gangs Of New York he's meant to be quite young, so it works.

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kidpresentable | 13 February 2011 - 11:31pm

Agree on the Departed

but Gangs of New York was just all-round shite, wasn't it?

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Dadwardo | 14 February 2011 - 3:24am

I can never make my mind about that one.....

It has so many redeeming features (history of NYC, excellent sets, some very good acting - DiCaprio and Day Lewis in full OTT mode) and then some clankers (appalling casting - Diaz - unfocussed storyline etc.)

Thought DiCaprio was superb in Shutter Island too. Twitchy, paranoid, arrogant. Very good. I've certainly warmed to him since Titanic and Romeo & Juliet.

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Six Dog | 14 February 2011 - 11:10am

Leo and Kate

were both very good in Revolutionary Road.

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Black Type | 14 February 2011 - 12:13pm

I wasn't that stuck on Daniel Day Lewis in it

I wasn't that stuck on Daniel Day Lewis in it, but aside from that I really enjoyed Gangs Of New York.

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kidpresentable | 14 February 2011 - 3:26pm

Caddyshack

is the greatest comedy fillum EVER!

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James Blast | 12 February 2011 - 4:54pm

It's really Dangerfield who makes it

"Take this steak back - it's still got marks from where the jockey was hitting it" etc etc

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Douglas | 12 February 2011 - 4:59pm

Oh yes.

Oh yesyesyes..

"That your wife, Judge? Last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it.."

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Lenny Law | 12 February 2011 - 11:55pm

(very big) yes

Chevy Chase’s best movie ….though I’d say it was that furry gofer puppet that really makes the film..

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walker182 | 18 February 2011 - 11:28am

The Rebel

is right up there with Hancock's best stuff.

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Douglas | 12 February 2011 - 4:55pm

Couldn't agree more. The

Couldn't agree more. The first time I saw it was the day before I started my first "real" job... perfect timing and its stuck with me ever since

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SaucyJack | 12 February 2011 - 10:40pm

Christopher Nolan's Memento

Christopher Nolan's Memento displays much more in the way of imagination, and is far more gripping, than Inception

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pbobcat | 12 February 2011 - 5:01pm

Agree with that.

All that bollocks about needing to be intelligent to watch Inception. Pfft, stay awake and you'll do fine. Memento on the other hand *needs* 2 viewings just to tie the two timelines together properly in you head.
Fantastic bit of film making and jolly good story to boot.

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VincePacket | 12 February 2011 - 5:07pm

Shyamalan's Law

I've cited it before in Nolan's case, but why not say cite it again: Every film is slightly, but measurably, worse than its predecessor.

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Archie Valparaiso | 12 February 2011 - 7:13pm

Filed of Dreams is

The best tear jerker for men.

When Burt Lancaster crosses the line to save the girl.

*Sob*

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VincePacket | 12 February 2011 - 5:09pm

"You wanna have a catch?"

I'm not sure your statement is altogether controversial, is it?

And "You wanna have a catch?".
Every. Single. Damn. Time. *sniffles*

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sitheref2409 | 12 February 2011 - 8:54pm

Oops

Double post.

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sitheref2409 | 12 February 2011 - 8:55pm

Social realism my arse

Mike Leigh's films are tosh and his "working class" characters are patronising and ludicrous.

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Forrest Gate | 12 February 2011 - 5:14pm

There are not enough "ups" in the world

... to express my complete agreement with you.

Although I do like Nuts In May and Abigails Party

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ganglesprocket | 12 February 2011 - 7:01pm

Yes, yes

And yes.

Gritty Northern drama? No it's just condescending shite.

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Six Dog | 12 February 2011 - 9:08pm

Are most of them northern?

And anyway I think Secrets And Lies is a fantastic film.

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art vanderlay | 13 February 2011 - 2:24am

Oh Jeeziz No!

Brenda Blethyn's voice is like chalk down a blackboard to me and completely fucked up an otherwise dry, dull and average movie.

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James Blast | 13 February 2011 - 3:12am

Roger Moore...

... is the best Bond. Well okay, maybe he isn't, but he's my favourite.

Also, I think 'Octopussy' is up there as one of the very best Bond films.

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Andrew F | 12 February 2011 - 5:16pm

No film today could be made with that title..

..unless it was a stroke flick.

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sourdust | 12 February 2011 - 7:57pm

and Roger Moore

would still be the star.

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bassclef (not verified) | 13 February 2011 - 4:19pm

More Roger

I'm with you about R M, you ask most people their fave Bond movie and more often than not it's Live And Let Die, Rog gold!

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jonnyartist | 13 February 2011 - 11:58am

does it matter?

I think being the best Bond is a bit like being the best x-factor contestant

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papanomicron | 19 February 2011 - 12:26am

Kevin Smith & Quentin Tarantino

are both one trick ponies who have long outstayed their welcome.

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Stephen Dowell | 12 February 2011 - 5:20pm

Get Carter

is not all that´s it´s cracked up to be and the nostalgic aura of fondness that surrounds "The Italian Job" bemuses me

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On The Fence | 12 February 2011 - 5:26pm

Some Like It Hot

isn't funny.

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jimmyshoes01 | 12 February 2011 - 5:31pm

Well, nobody's perfect.

.

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sirbriancannonhunter | 12 February 2011 - 6:26pm

Yes!

How nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Quite possibly the most overrated film ever made.

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Paul Waring | 12 February 2011 - 11:32pm

or possibly under-rated.

It has a sly depth and deceptive darkness. It's, for me, one of the ten best films ever made.

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Sheev | 13 February 2011 - 11:43am

Lost In Translation

(spoiler)

Nothing happens in the entire soddin' film

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pompeygeorge | 12 February 2011 - 5:40pm

But Scarlett's bum

is the first thing you see...surely the rest doesn't matter?

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Black Type | 13 February 2011 - 12:58am

Don't talk about Bill Murray in those terms!

Do I win five pounds?

And I reckon it's a stunt bum.

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Lenny Law | 13 February 2011 - 1:41am

A cheeky way to ruin the mood

It is a stunt bum and it is my bum. It´s something I do on the side.

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Ola Claesson | 13 February 2011 - 11:07am

Not on your front?

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nicktf | 13 February 2011 - 8:27pm

No one can afford the insurance

*gets coat*

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Ola Claesson | 14 February 2011 - 2:42pm

CGI is crap...

it really is.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 6:15pm

Yep

....and in 20/30 years time and beyond, future generations will not believe how crap it is.
CGI will look 'more' dated in 2030 than silent movies from a full 100 years ago look to us now.

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ranger | 12 February 2011 - 9:49pm

I always come back to the original 'King Kong'...

which I think looks extraordinary even now. What it must have seemed like to audiences in the 1930s one can only imagine.

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Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 10:02pm

So, so right, Patrick.

I go on about this at great length. It stops me from going to the pix now. I detest CGI. Light needs to fall through a camera lens, not spring from a VDU.

Say what you like about Star Wars, but it LOOKS great. Think of how the opening scene, filmed with models and cameras, would look if filmed now with CGI. Complete arse. The sheer enormity of the Star Destroyer, the sense of forboding, of heft, that you were watching something real, that doesn't happen with CGI.

Similarly Top Gun. Utter, utter toss but the flying sequences were great. Huge aircraft getting hurled around the sky, filmed for real from other aircraft.

Wouldn't happen today.

I watched the first half of The Aviator. When the original Howard Hughes footage used outshone the modern CGI for the aerial shots I turned it off in disgust.

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Lenny Law | 13 February 2011 - 12:07am

eh...

sorry Len, but the Star Destroyer was only about 7ft. long in real life, but I digress:

The Imperial-class Star Destroyer bristles with 60 turbolaser batteries, 60 ion cannon batteries, and 10 tractor beam projectors. It carries a full stormtrooper division, 20 AT-ATs, 30 AT-STs, eight Lambda-class shuttles, 12 landing barges, and six TIE squadrons..

Since its introduction, an improved model of Star Destroyer also saw action. The Imperial-II Star Destroyer is an upgraded model with increased hull shielding, and more weapons, sporting 100 turbolaser emplacements, 20 ion cannons, and 10 tractor beam projectors

0
James Blast | 13 February 2011 - 3:20am

Gene Hackman

is the greatest actor in screen history. Shame his retired.

2
sirbriancannonhunter | 12 February 2011 - 6:30pm

Big fan of Hackman

but The Conversation was a bit of a letdown. I'd heard so much about it and was really looking forward to it. Barely managed to finish it, though.

0
burncoat | 12 February 2011 - 6:54pm

Last Year At Marienbad

is an interminable bore.

1
KDH | 12 February 2011 - 6:32pm

yeah but

it looks real good

I am not Peter Greenaway

1
James Blast | 13 February 2011 - 3:22am

Two Lane Blacktop

(spoiler)

Nothing happens in the entire soddin' film

0
stimpy | 12 February 2011 - 6:49pm

You've had a run of bad luck with dull movies

Perhaps you should switch to live theatre. I've heard good things about Waiting for Godot.

1
sourdust | 13 February 2011 - 6:18pm

I was joking...

I've gone on record here as saying TLB is my all-time favourite film.

0
stimpy | 13 February 2011 - 7:28pm

Antonioni

if you like TLB then you should see The Passenger with Jack Nicholson. Nothing hap....etc

0
Charlie Gordon | 13 February 2011 - 11:15pm

Worst film of 2010?

Made In Dagenham: like a cross between Austin Powers and a Soviet propaganda film.

0
Forrest Gate | 12 February 2011 - 6:54pm

But...

"a cross between Austin Powers and a Soviet propaganda film."

Spot on, which is why I really liked it.

0
JoLean | 13 February 2011 - 12:16pm

Avatar

Is perfectly watchable on a 6 year old CRT telly not in HD.

3
milkybarnick | 12 February 2011 - 6:57pm

Some Star Wars home truths

Boba Fett was an incompetent bounty hunter and also rather accident prone. I have no idea why he is held in such high regard.

The Ewoks did not ruin Return of the Jedi, nor are they particularly cute. They're vicious, feral teddy bears who attempt to spit-roast Han and Luke, and are later seen using the helmets of murdered Imperial stormtroopers as improvised drums.

Admiral Ackbar is the greatest leader of men/alien beings ever committed to celluloid. If he had been sent upriver in Apocalypse Now, instead of Willard, things would have gone a lot smoother.

11
backwards7 | 12 February 2011 - 7:07pm

Spit roasting Han and Luke?

Fnarr fnarr!

0
ganglesprocket | 13 February 2011 - 2:31am

I always

thought Admiral Ackbar never got his fair due, maybe it had something to do with the fact he wasn't as good looking as Harrison Ford.

0
sirbriancannonhunter | 12 February 2011 - 7:22pm

Peter's Friends and Moulin Rouge are brilliant

OK, OK, just kidding, they are shite.

2
Twangothan | 12 February 2011 - 7:44pm

Laurel and Hardy's 'The Music Box'...

is the funniest thing ever.

2
Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 8:57pm

The Long Good Friday

Anyone else think this the bestest Brit film ever?

0
geacher53 | 12 February 2011 - 9:01pm

Yes

.

0
Rigid Digit | 12 February 2011 - 9:54pm

Alfie

Jude Law pisses all over Caine's Alfie in the remake.

1
torrential1 | 12 February 2011 - 9:05pm

Really?

Are watersports the in thing in the movies at the moment?

1
Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 9:07pm

aaaagh!

Can't get that picture out my mind now..

0
torrential1 | 12 February 2011 - 11:28pm

Bad News and More Bad News

Are better than Spinal Tap by a considerable distance.

Jennifer Saunders nails the Burchill journo character completely.

Great story of a failing British metal band on the pub circuit.

3
Six Dog | 12 February 2011 - 9:06pm

still nowhere near

All You Need is Cash

2
James Blast | 13 February 2011 - 3:24am

I'm getting out of the van now.....

Unless you say we're heavy metal....

1
art vanderlay | 13 February 2011 - 10:27am

Bad News

I first saw "This Is Spinal Tap" with some University friends who knew the whole script. After watching it, I said it was a rehash of The Comic Strip's "Bad News." I then had to, eventually, pay a pretty penny on eBay for a deleted pre-recorded VHS of same to convince them. (Fortunately, they agreed with me and it subsequently became a favourite.)

God bless DVD box sets. The whole canon cost me less in a sale than that sole VHS. Which one of those friends then nicked.

0
Wardour | 13 February 2011 - 4:29pm

Imogen

Synchro start, bossa nova...it's a new machine.

Two, free, four

0
Six Dog | 13 February 2011 - 9:12pm

...

it sounds better without the bossa nova.

0
Melrose Ape | 14 February 2011 - 10:07pm

Heavy metal, top of the class!

Stuff the media up your arse!

1
Ruff-Diamond | 19 February 2011 - 11:15pm

The Coen Brothers

Have been taking the piss consistently since Blood Simple. Their films are smug, self-centered, wink-wink, in-jokes that pander to film critics' elevated sense of self-worth.

4
Grant | 12 February 2011 - 9:23pm

and most of them are

and most of them are brilliant!

1
pbobcat | 13 February 2011 - 11:06am

Cinema....

......ceased to be a vital industry at about the time pop music ceased to be a vital industry.

Its absolute death rattle was sounded with 'Jaws'.
Awful film: maximum merchandise.....and it was only a hop, skip and a jump from there to 'Star Wars', 'Rocky', 'Rambo' etc.

Britain used to have a film industry.
No, straight up.

0
ranger | 12 February 2011 - 9:45pm

Don't tell us ranger

Everything since the sixties is shit......

3
art vanderlay | 13 February 2011 - 2:29am

"The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner

is the best film ever made. Stanley Baker is easily the best actor ever. Manfred Mann in the 60s rocked harder than Led Zeppelin ever did. Marilyn Manson? I tell you Arthur Brown at The Gaumont in Weston was far scarier..."

"Sorry, Mr Ranger we have to go now - we've got double geography next"

0
Sheev | 13 February 2011 - 11:49am

The Matrix

What a load of toss. The FPO thinks Keanu Reeves is the best thing since sliced bread though.

2
davebigpicture | 12 February 2011 - 9:51pm

His career peaked with Bill & Ted though.

Must be hard for him to accept that its all going to be downhill from there on.

1
stimpy | 13 February 2011 - 2:01pm

But, but, but

Did he not win the Oscar for 'Best Comedy British Accent in a feature film since Dick van Dyke' for his work in Dracula?

1
Six Dog | 13 February 2011 - 9:15pm

Don Logan in 'Sexy Beast' was a big wuss...

and I could have had him with one hand tied behind my back.

0
Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 10:06pm

Aye.

And the only reason Ray Winstone was scared of him is 'cos he's a big puff.

My sister could have him.

0
Lenny Law | 13 February 2011 - 12:10am

Okay, I'm running a book

Don Logan versus Brosnan.

Who wants some?

0
fatmanjez | 13 February 2011 - 10:47am

Ben Kingsley in Gandhi

could have handled Roger Moore's Bond. "I usually say an eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind but in your case it's Go-Time Mr Bond"

0
Cookieboy | 13 February 2011 - 10:57am

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. no!

No, no, no, no, no, no, no!

2
milkybarnick | 13 February 2011 - 11:26pm

The original Die Hard

is simultaneously the greatest film ever while containing the most clichéd lines and acting ever. Thereby rendering it unmissable even when Channel 5 show it at half past midnight with adverts every 15 minutes. Yippee-Kay-Ay and all that.

1
Dave Amitri | 12 February 2011 - 10:08pm

Don't forget the...

motherfucker.

0
Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2011 - 10:10pm

Die Hard

...is my favourite Christmas film. Fact.

0
kidpresentable | 15 February 2011 - 11:19pm

Pulp Fiction

Style over substance & just plain dull...

2
nebraska1982 | 12 February 2011 - 10:30pm

Not having that

Great script, terrific performances, very funny. Dull, you say ... you must be kidding.

6
Johan | 13 February 2011 - 12:11am

Charlie Chaplin

Not funny. In the slightest.

4
Paul Waring | 12 February 2011 - 11:35pm

Woody Allen.

Rarely funny. Mostly annoying.

2
Lenny Law | 13 February 2011 - 12:11am

And, since...ooh about 1980...

...actually pretty creepy.

1
nicktf | 13 February 2011 - 8:30pm
Ola Claesson | 13 February 2011 - 9:37pm

Tragedy…

...plus time.

1
Inky Fingers | 15 February 2011 - 7:10pm

Mickey Blue Eyes

is a classic rom-com, probably Hugh Grant's finest hour-and-a-half.

0
Black Type | 13 February 2011 - 1:03am

Fluff, but good fluff. Love

Fluff, but good fluff. Love the chinese lady:"Eat, fucking cookie!!" and "The" La Traviata :)

0
pbobcat | 13 February 2011 - 11:02am

Dead Poets' Society

Is a manipulative, melodramatic schlockfest.

By contrast (this bit may be uncontroversial) Bill Forsyth movies are full of warmth and humanity. (And Ms Grogan. But that's by the by). And he should have made many more.

6
sitheref2409 | 13 February 2011 - 1:18am

Dead right

- "manipulative, melodramatic" - but still bloody wonderful.

0
Black Type | 13 February 2011 - 1:41am

Slumdog Millionaire

No good. Apart from the dancing at the end.

0
Roo | 13 February 2011 - 1:30am

A Clockwork Orange.....

Is dull and boring (no, really)

3
art vanderlay | 13 February 2011 - 2:32am

ACW is a rite of passage for me

I walked all the way down a rain beaten hill in semi darkness in my duffle coat of a late September night back in't day to our local cinema as showed X fillums. Got in and was entranced by what I saw and heard, plus it was a great story to tell mates at school the next day. So it will always have a place in my heart especially when it was banned, I could always chuck out the bon mot "Oh yeah, seen it". Years pass [calendar with pages flicking by] it is the 80s and a mate gives me a bootleg VHS of it with Dutch subtitles. Huge swathes of the movie look new to me, whole chunks I have misplaced. The event was bigger than the actuality. I've since recorded it off the telly and enjoy it for what it is but it will never ever be that wet Tuesday back in the 70s ever, ever again.

I had to walk back up that rain beaten hill in my duffle coat after that first viewing BTW.
I did those things so you don't have to.

1
James Blast | 13 February 2011 - 3:44am

This one's for 'Star Wars' fans........

Stanley Kubrick rendered two genres of films entirely superfluous with his own perfect takes on them:

1. War films.....'Paths of Glory'.
(I suspect he went on to make that ho-hum Vietnam one 'cos everyone else in the film industry was making a ho-hum Vietnam one).

2. Films set in space.....'2001'.
The idea that anyone went and paid good money at a cinema (if their local high street still had a cinema) in the dull 1970s and duller 1980s to see 'Star Wars' 1,2,3,4,5,6 or 7 or 'Star Trek' 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 or 10 is farcical.

0
ranger | 13 February 2011 - 9:07am

Beverly Hills Cop

is one of the best films of the 80s. Not for nothing was the screenplay up for an Oscar.

In fact there are many action movies of the 80s that are also pretty damn brilliant; Lethal Weapon (but not the sequels), Die Hard, etc.

1
sandamiano | 13 February 2011 - 10:48am

Laurence Olivier - dreadful old ham...

even when he was in his twenties. Same goes for Gielgud and Richardson.

Trevor Howard could act the arse off all three of them.

2
Archie Valparaiso | 13 February 2011 - 11:28am

Larry in old age

either played old German Jews, as in The Jazz Singer - "I heff no son!"

or old German Nazis - "Is it safe?"

Trouble is he played them all exactly the same.

0
fatmanjez | 13 February 2011 - 2:04pm

The Princess Bride

is the best film for the whole family by a country mile.

Tim Burton is overrated.

William H Macy is the same in every film he's in. Zzzzzz.

4
Ahh_Bisto | 13 February 2011 - 11:33am

Have an up

Agree, agree, agree!

0
Dadwardo | 13 February 2011 - 12:06pm

All great films

have a "p" in the title somewhere

0
Sheev | 13 February 2011 - 11:50am

P?

My personal fave is Withnail & P.

2
jonnyartist | 13 February 2011 - 12:00pm

P?

A Patter of Life and Death is a good one

1
Ahh_Bisto | 13 February 2011 - 12:22pm

not forgetting Citizen Pane

0
Sheev | 13 February 2011 - 12:38pm

Cats in space...

Star Paws.

0
stimpy | 13 February 2011 - 2:03pm

Seven Spamurai

Slumpdog Millionaire
Schindler's Pist
The Podfather
Top Story
Some Like It Pot
Singin' In The Pain
Casaplanca
Blade Punner
The Punforgiven

1
Cadabra | 13 February 2011 - 2:15pm

The Punforgiven

a plausible precis of The Word Passive, sorry Massive

0
Sheev | 13 February 2011 - 3:02pm

Schindler's Lisp?

According to your theory (and I love a theory, me), the only great Scorsese film would be Cape Fear - the only film he's made with a P in the title.

You do a bit better with Spielberg, because it allows you The Color Purple, Empire of the Sun, Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report (although you'll have to live with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Jurassic Park and its sequels too).

Performance, check. Apocalypse Now, check... Extreme Prejudice, check. Hmm, maybe you're on to something.

0
Archie Valparaiso | 15 February 2011 - 12:15pm

Another Scorsese film with a p in the title:

"The Departed". Not a great one, though, admittedly, even if it did win the Oscar.

0
duco01 | 15 February 2011 - 12:44pm

Pee Movie

0
Ola Claesson | 13 February 2011 - 3:11pm

Spinal Pap

Oh wait...

1
stimpy | 13 February 2011 - 4:42pm

Black Narpissus

.

0
Patrick Crowther | 15 February 2011 - 10:04am

Palfred Pitchcock

Dial P for Murder
Porn Curtain

0
On The Fence | 15 February 2011 - 10:22am

The Blues Brothers and Rocky Horror

Mandatory viewing when I was at Uni with otherwise good buddies able to quote chapter and verse.

Left me utterly cold. Not a single nanosecond of entertainment.

5
David_Jockney | 13 February 2011 - 1:50pm

Oh no, no, no, no, no........

The Blues Brothers is a terrific film.

Extremely funny - what's not to like about a 90 car police chase through Illinois and, really, central Chicago. Plus the Good Ole Boys and a deranged Carrie Fisher blowing stuff up.

I first saw it when I was 13 and it turned me on to Booker T, John Lee Hooker, Spencer Davis and Duane Eddy.

Even if you don't like the Ackroyd/Belushi knockabout acting (I love it) - it's a crash education course in American music in 2 hours.

Great stuff.

5
Six Dog | 14 February 2011 - 11:17am

"Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips."

John Candy brilliance.

0
Dadwardo | 17 February 2011 - 8:44am

Clue

with Tim Curry is the funniest film ever. The Last Boy Scout was excellent as was the new Italian Job. No Coen Brothers' film has ever entertained me in the slightest. I have never ever, ever laughed at a film with Will Ferrell in it. Best JB film: Casino Royale. All others are pretty bad. Most start with a bang and trail off at the 40 minute mark which is when you go and make a cup of tea on Boxing day and never come back.

0
theweemo | 13 February 2011 - 4:17pm

Police Academy

The first one is actually quite funny.

0
Lando Cakes | 13 February 2011 - 8:35pm

DON'T MOVE

Dirtbag!

0
Six Dog | 14 February 2011 - 11:18am

Better than films

The film is never as good as the book.

0
JohnW | 13 February 2011 - 8:41pm

Trainspotting begs to

Trainspotting begs to differ.
As does "Master and Commander"

2
sitheref2409 | 14 February 2011 - 2:44pm

as does

The Shining

2
Douglas | 14 February 2011 - 4:44pm

as does

The Princess Bride

0
Dadwardo | 17 February 2011 - 8:46am

I've got it covered

I think I've addressed this problem sufficiently in my post in the "Controversial book opinions" thread! ;-)

0
JohnW | 19 February 2011 - 9:01am

Bill Nighy

If he's in it, it'll be pants; it'll be boffo box office, but it'll be pants (not exactly a Sight & Sound level of criticism, I know, but nevertheless accurate). Ditto regarding Richard Curtis too.

The received wisdom on the second Matrix film is also erroneous : its excellent.

BR
FT

0
Freaky Trigger | 13 February 2011 - 8:48pm

Great films with Bill Nighy

Still Crazy
The Lawless Heart
Notes on a Scandal
Shaun of the Dead
The Constant Gardener
I Capture the Castle

I love Bill Nighy.

0
Rosbif | 14 February 2011 - 12:10am

Bill Nigh-y on unable to act!

He is one of the worst actors to've come to the fore in the past 10 years! He plays the same character, badly, in every movie. Listening to his speaking voice when he's acting, you hear really bad am-dram intonation, abysmal phrasing - it's just flat! He cannot, in short, act. People, I think, like the IDEA of Bill Nighy but the reality is really frankly piss-poor. Notes on a Scandal was tripe-completely implausible and overwrought.

0
Melrose Ape | 14 February 2011 - 10:00pm

Biopics.

Biopics are pointless.

0
JQW | 14 February 2011 - 12:18am

Theme tune

It's normally safe to judge a film by it's theme tune. ie shit tune = shit film.

0
JohnW | 14 February 2011 - 2:47pm

Napoleon Dynamight be in my top 20 of all time!

How dareth thou impugn ND, it's an absolute gem!

0
Melrose Ape | 14 February 2011 - 9:56pm

Most Of The Best Films Of All Time

Were Made in Black and White

Citizen Kane
It's A Wonderful Life
High Noon
Casablanca
Blockheads
Psycho
12 Angry Men
Dr Strangelove

0
MrRadio | 15 February 2011 - 10:05am

B&W

Add The Night of the Hunter to that list.

2
Forrest Gate | 15 February 2011 - 11:07am

and "The Apartment", for that matter

(the last wholly black-and-white film to win the Best Picture Oscar).

0
duco01 | 15 February 2011 - 12:45pm

In every film I've seen him in

John Wayne is a complete shit. Like a miserable right wing Popeye come to life.

4
Andy Mackenzie | 15 February 2011 - 5:27pm

He Was Never

much of an actor, more a presence. That said, The Searchers is one of the greatest movie of all time.

1
Pat Carty | 18 February 2011 - 7:48pm

Including Nathan Brittles?

Including Nathan Brittles? The man who spoke to his wife's grave?

I think you're bing a tad harsh on Mr Wayne there. He did play some real shi!ts, but not always. I'd try the Shootist as well for a slightly softer Wayne.

0
sitheref2409 | 15 February 2011 - 6:23pm

films from TV shows

I thought the film version of Til Death Us Do Part was brilliant

0
Dan Gereaux | 15 February 2011 - 8:31pm

Films from TV shows

especially British sitcoms, are always rubbish. Even The Likely Lads and Porridge.

0
count jim moriarty | 15 February 2011 - 10:37pm

and to that list you could add

the Likely Lads and Rising Damp, despite what others might tell you.

0
Douglas | 15 February 2011 - 10:43pm

It's a mad mad mad mad world

Still makes me laugh.

The wife, and everyone else I know, HATES it.

I don't care. Amazing cast, (c'mon, Spencer Tracy, Jimmy Durante, Terry Thomas...etc etc)

and a brilliant theme...

1
Ravi Naik | 15 February 2011 - 9:08pm

Seminal!

I adore that movie, thanks for reminding me.

0
James Blast | 15 February 2011 - 10:23pm

The Tall Guy

Is a work of comedic genius

0
toiras34 | 15 February 2011 - 10:22pm

Dr Strangelove is unwatchable

I’m in complete disagreement with the earlier thread. Thematically the film has dated appallingly and Sellers brand of humour is now way past its sell by date.

Lolita is a far finer film, just the right amount of Sellers, and James Mason is genius.

Barry Lindon and The Shining are two of the most visually stunning films ever made. With Kubrick, it kind of depends on whether you are okay with his characterisations. For me, the cold, detached nature of his characters is what makes his films work as a cinematic spectacles.

0
walker182 | 18 February 2011 - 11:41am

The King's Speech

Don't want to see it something about the trailers and reviews have just really got on my nerves.

1
papanomicron | 19 February 2011 - 12:35am

Probably not that controversial

but I hated A Single Man. No substance whatsoever, all "style" and no content. Pretentious.

It's films like this that make me think that today's film makers have never read books, just been influenced by Star Wars and pop videos... and the worst thing is people lap this shit up.

I was also going to add that True Grit was overrated but thinking about it, it wasn't bad for a western.

0
Jim M | 19 February 2011 - 10:32am

Huh????

Whether you liked it or not, ok, all a matter of opinion. However, I can't think of a film that has been less influenced by Star Wars and pop videos. FWIW, I thought it was a terrific film, and there is every reason to believe the filmmakers had read the book in advance, although they did change some stuff. And I don't think Colin Firth has ever been better. Such a subtle, nuanced performance.

0
Rosbif | 19 February 2011 - 7:40pm

1941

Spielberg's best.

0
James Blast | 19 February 2011 - 10:44pm
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