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Canadian Record Industry Association faces huge bill over 'infringement'

el hombre malo's picture

It's a long piece, but an interesting perspective on how record companies work : 300,000 songs used on compilations but not cleared!

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/735096--geist-record-industry-fa...

The bill could be between $50 million and $60 billion (if calculated on how the CRIA works out breaches of copyright by illegal downloaders)

What does The Massive think ? Will the CRIA pay up ? How have they got away with it for so long ?

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Fantastic

Lets hop the artists win. Kind of puts paid to the idea that the record industry is trying to protect the artists.

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austinplatt | 9 December 2009 - 12:10pm

The intenational labels would pull out of Canada altogether

rather than pay a bill of that size.

(Not that it would ever come to that, of course. I suspect it's just a publicity grab)

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stimpy | 9 December 2009 - 12:13pm

First Nickelback, now this

those Canadians, eh!

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Humphrey Plugg | 9 December 2009 - 12:18pm

Not entirely dissimilar

Reminds me of this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/oct/06/edwyn-collins-sharing-music

Maybe Rob Fitzgerald should set his self-righteous sweary illegal download police on the big boys for a change...

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Anonymous (not verified) | 9 December 2009 - 12:22pm

Obviously everything owed should be paid...

...but please bear in mind that a great deal of artists owe their record companies.

The most illuminating thing on the web in months is this royalty statement for a band called Too Much Joy. They have been campaigning for ages for Warner Bros to give them an accounting of what they were owed for digital downloads.

Eventually they got it: for specific downloads of their songs they had earned twenty cents; for subscription services they were owed a further $62.27. They were entitled to that money as soon as they paid off the $395, 277.18 that the record company had advanced to them.

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David Hepworth | 9 December 2009 - 12:26pm

..in fairness

if you change your last paragraph to 'for specific downloads of their songs they WERE TOLD THEY had earned twenty cents' it'd be a bit more accurate. Very interesting article, thanks for the link.

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badartdog | 9 December 2009 - 2:25pm

Excellent article

The main point of which seemed to be not that record companies lose money on bands but that they are extraordinarily bad at reporting how much.

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skirky | 9 December 2009 - 5:35pm

record co accounting

I very much doubt that the label lost money on the band.

The $400,000 odd that TMJ owes to the label doesn't represent $400,000 that the label lost on them... that's just the amount they have to recoup out of their royalty, ie out of the 10 cents or so they make per record sold.

The label made (guessing) $3 or $4 per record sold, and the band sold a fair few records in their day, not huge, but quite decent.

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GrahameD | 9 December 2009 - 6:15pm

It would be interesting though

to see what makes up the figure of $395,277.18. that the band has been "advanced' during this period!

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Bingham | 9 December 2009 - 2:24pm

Well, I would imagine...

...it's the money they spent on making the records and promoting them.

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David Hepworth | 10 December 2009 - 6:58am

Well yes

but to look at it and draw any meaningful conclusions it would be more than useful to see what items were included in the total of $395,277.00 that the record company charged to the band..No? We have the breakdown in sales why not the expenses?

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Bingham | 10 December 2009 - 2:03pm

But that would be FAR too helpful to the band

It's to the record company's advantage to keep the band in the dark as much as possible, and whilst they're unrecouped the record company have the whip hand.

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stimpy | 10 December 2009 - 5:08pm
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