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Can someone explain to me the problem with Dolores O'Riordan?
Posted by Diz on 13 March 2009 - 3:02pm.
Yes her out of the Cranberries.
As a group they rather passed me by but I'm vaguely aware they went over a cliff in terms of record sales after their first album.
She seems to come in for a right royal shellacking both on this board and in The Word magazine.
What were her monstrous crimes?
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Zombie....
With their tanks and their bombs and their bombs and their guns, Zombie, Zombie e e e e e.....
Where's my medication?!
I rather like
I rather like Zombie when I'm in an appropriately brain-dead mood. The rest of their stuff is cack though.
'I just shot John Lennon'
It was the fearful night of December 8th.
He was returning home from the studio late.
He had perseptively known that it wouldn't be nice.
Because in 1980, he paid the price.
John Lennon died. [X6]
With a Smith & Wesson 38,
John Lennon's life was no longer a debate.
blimey
Is that real?
Oh yes
I remember...
...reading in an interview with the group that they weren't certain whether Lennon was shot five or six times, so they put six gunshots on the track - 'just to be sure'.
Problems x 2
1) Yelping like an abandonned puppy
2) 'Suddenly something has happened to me
As I was having my cup of tea
Suddenly I was feeling depressed
I was utterly and totally stressed' (Animal Instinct)
I think it only fair that when Sinead was off having therapy*
that her place in the marketplace should be taken up by a kindred spirit.
I like her atonal glottally-gained bansheeing and I enjoy the first 2 Cranberries LPs. And her work with Jah Wobble is as memorable as Sineads. So she's a bit bonkers; give her some leeway. (I confess, however, that the trend to lash her back did put me off listening to her solo LP, so maybe I shall spotify it)
*allegedly
*atonal glottally-gained bansheeing*
I need to look into this......
Jah Wobble's
autobiography - Memoirs of a Geezer - is out later this year. Didn't take much notice of his post PiL output, but having read it I'll make an effort. I loved the book.
She's got some strong views on 'bugle' too
Some good advice for parents at the end
To all those people doing lines
don't do it, don't do it
Inject your soul with liberty
it's free, it's free
To all the kids with heroin eyes
don't do it, don't do it
Because it's not, not what it seems
No, no it's not, not what it seems
Salvation, salvation, salvation is free
Salvation, salvation, salvation is free
To all those parents with sleepless nights
(sleepless nights)
Tie your kids home to their beds
clean their heads
That
is just awesome. I'm never doing drugs ever again and I will also make sure I tie as many children down as possible. All these years I've being paying for liberty as well, who'd have thunk it?
Don't forget...
You got me wrapped around your finger
Do you have to let it linger?
*Shudders*
And the bloody Irish dancing she used to do as well....
I think linger is a pretty
I think linger is a pretty good pop song, they are a rubbish band though. Do you remember the footage from her wedding? She wore some god aweful clingy lace trouser suit.
Linger & Zombie are alright
but the Cranberries albums were the first to go from iTunes when I ran out of ipod memory.
Dreadful but...
...I bought their first ever single on the back of Everett True making it single of the week in the Melody Maker. Played it about twice and then forgot about it until a period of poverty forced me to sell unwanted vinyl to a second-hand record shop.
The chap behind the counter looked through the sorry pile, did a lot of teeth sucking and head shaking, until he came to this Cranberries platter he'd never seen before. After a quick check of the price guide I was £8 the richer. £8! For a feckin' Cranberries single! Actually, it might have been £6. Still...
We used call "linger"
the "fish finger song" becuae of the annoying rhyme.
oh and she was a snooty to my mates who were supporting her band at gig in leeds once so we all decided to not like them after that.
Oh and the only thing cranberries are good for...... bladder infections.
Back in the day,
if my brother started singing to the the tune of Linger "would you like to? would you like to?", it was time to run cos it would end with "would you like to smell my finger?" as he thrust the offending, unspeakably beponged, digit into your face.
btw - first time I've seen that John Lennon lyric, that is truly effing awful
I beg to differ and Delia would agree
but cranberries are very good with Christmas dinner
Your honour, I hearby charge Ms O'Riordan...
with crimes against music, particularly with regards to her awful banshee wail.
They were bloody useless. I will broker no argument on this.
Before they chamed their name....
to the Cranberries, they were called the Cranberry Saw Us. That is all.
war crimes
and don't forget, the cranberries invaded Poland in 1939!!
around the time that the Cranberries were striking out
there was another band doing the rounds in Limerick, (where i was in college at the time) that I really wanted to succeed. They never did, but (apologies for ropey quality) isn't this a great little gem of a pop punk song.
I didn't dislike the Cranberries due to finding Dolores' voice annoying - i disliked them because this was what could've been!
One of her solo albums was called...
"Are you listening?"...thats a music critic's pun waiting to happen...
The best stage intro to a cover version of Zombie I've heard?
"...You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time...or you can be in The Cranberries"
That doesn't answer the question, I'm afraid, but it brought back happy memories.
Strange days for music, '93-'94, weren't they?
That period covers the two Cranberries albums that sold in huge quantities (the Lennon and Drugs! ditties were off the third album, which bombed).
It's not just the Cranberries though. Around that time a rinky-dink umbrella-in-your-cocktail jazz-lite house-lite bakelite combo with an air raid siren out front (M People) were clearing up, too. Jimmy Nail was being taken seriously as he sold hundreds of thousands of an album of faux C&W. Ace Of Base had a million selling number one album.
You could draw a parallel with how cack the music scene is always sold to us as being in 1975 before punk "changed everything, man". (Full disclosure: I don't remember 1975. I was 2).
I'm really looking forward to the 90s revivals. I'm going to find it very amusing seeing which bands get airbrushed out: and the above acts, plus Lighthouse Family, are too bland/embarrassing to revive.*
(* If that's alright with you)
1975... an awful year for music!
Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Bob Marley & The Wailers - Live At The Lyceum
Richard & Linda Thompson - Pour Down Like Silver
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Zuma
Dr Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
Paul Simon - Still Crazy After All These Years
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Joni Mitchell - The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
Little Feat - The Last Record Album
Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic
David Bowie - Young Americans
that's just off the top of my head... not much wrong with the music scene if you ask me!
I was paraphrasing the "Year Zero" punkers
hence my qualification (and I'd replace "always" with "often", so mea culpa on that one).
Decent list though, I'd agree...
Yes, I knew you were doing that...
my point is that there really wasn't as much wrong with the music scene in 1975-6 as one is often led to believe. That period is in need of a hefty dose of historical revisionism if you ask me...
93 - 94
Not bad actually as I recall (also having checked on other websites):
Breeders 'Last Splash'
Bjork 'Debut'
Nirvana 'In Utero'
Beck 'Mellow Gold'
Dinosaur Jr 'Where You Been?'
Pulp 'His 'n' Hers'
Stereolab 'Space Age Batchelor Pad' and 'Mars Audiac Quintet'
Lemonheads 'Come On Feel The Lemonheads'
Suede 'Suede'
Sonic Youth 'Daydream Nation'
Smashing Pumpkins 'Siamese Dream'
Not to mention Oasis' debut and Blur's 'Parklife'. Oh and a notable solo album by Mick Jagger.
Quite a time for a variety of music. A good mixture of dance and rock - pretty vibrant as I recall. Once Britpop went massive it all got a bit less interesting I feel.
1975 not bad either. Very good in fact. Though I note the qualification - how it is 'sold to us'. So not necessarily your view. Just received wisdom.
daydream nation came out in 1988
the rest are good except i never really took to smashing pumpkins
Old joke resurrected
The Lighthouse Family have been on the rocks for years.
Zombie Zombie
There aren't that many songs in the world that I consider that I hate..me being totally unmusical in a practical sense I try and at least respect anything but there's a line in the sand here..
Even worse - back in the 90's I had a very thick wall between me and my neighbour..this was the *only* song that would ever make it through the wall..some kind of diddly-dee leprechaun magick perhaps?
Unfortunately the O'Neills pub chain still have it on their "pretend we're irish" computerised playlist..
Dreams, anyone?
That really is a lovely song. She had a rather sweet voice on rare occasions, when she held back on the yodelling.
I have a soft spot for them
There's a number of dodgy lyrics and I know for some people the voice grates, but they did some nice stuff too. How about this: