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Bring Out Your Dead
Posted by David Hepworth on 16 August 2010 - 9:41am.
I found this just now. It's a 40 Gb iPod from, what, ten years ago? Doesn't work of course and feels as heavy as a house brick. The thing that amazes me about the march of technology is how quickly it makes last year's new new thing look quaint. Anybody else got examples of yesterday's toys? Pictures too, if you've got them
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Why doesn't it work any longer?
I have a 5 year old 4GB "first generation" nano which works perfectly so much so that I've never seen the need to replace it. Surely just charging it up and connecting it to iTunes will do the job?
Me too
My 20g 4th generation iPod bought in 2004 is still chugging along.
The 'proper' iPods (i.e. not mini-, nano-, femto-, etc)
always had hard disks inside them rather than solid state memory. Teeny little hard disks eventually go wrong...
iPod Hard Disks
Faulty iPod hard disks can be replaced. A bit of a fiddly job but you can buy a replacement 40GB disk for about 40 quid and DIY. Google "iPod Spares". Plenty of step-by-step online instructions too.
Are there any without moving parts
that can hold 15,000 tunes?
I think the 64gb iPhone is solid state
That's probably the biggest you'll get currently.
David's old iPod...
... uses a hard disk. Which spins, or is supposed to. Your Nano (and my Nano, which is probably 5 years old and stills works fine) uses a chip - no moving parts, see.
I keep my old 40GB iPod...
...in my desk drawer. It's long since passed on - and mine's only six years old - but I pray that one day it might whirr into life again. I think that it's some kind of design classic. Far preferable to the next model, with its awkward sharper edges. The only thing that feels quaint to me is the black and white screen.
Here you go
My old Rio Karma - a very good mp3 player, regularly beat the iPod in published reviews, but sadly died a couple of years ago, at which point I splashed out on an iPod Classic 80gb.
And my trusty old Psion 3c, the point at which Psion couldn't go any smaller and was soon outmanoeuvred by Palm and RIM. The 3c had a whopping 2mb of RAM.
would be easier
just take of a snap of spare room I'll have think.
One day I'll get organised
These are still clogging up my draws at home.
That Psion was brilliant, plus old Palm and very old Compaq iPAQ. But where are the chargers?
Any advance on a ipod 3g 8 yrs old still in daily use?
The one with the buttons over the clickwheel. 40GB and still going strong on its second battery. Though I understand that newer ones surf the net, play games, do all sorts has anyone actually claimed the sound reproduction from the machines themselves have improved (headphones notwithstanding).
The sound reproduction got better on the
4th/5th gen iPods when they moved to a discrete Wolfson DAC. This wasn't fitted to the iPhone/iTouch or any of the mini- & nano- ranges.
The 6th gen iPod classic reverted to a cheaper Cirrus DAC with, technically, weaker performance.
Having said all that, if you're listening to mp3s through earbuds, minor differences in DAC spec isn't going to make any appreciable difference! :-)
So apart from bells, whistles, headphones and weight
To actually listen to music on an ipod we've had no appreciable advances in 8 years!
Well.....
I was still using my 2G 10GB one until about a year or so ago, and only gave up with it then due to the Firewire cable expiring. I had spent a while stuck behind a cupboard when I acquired a 5G one, but I dug it out as it performed better than the 5G with some audiobooks. Then I broke the 5G models screen, so the 2G became my permanent one.
I've still got the 2G here, and will try it again if I can acquire a cheap Firewire cable.
All things must pass away
here's some of the cutting edge...

I don't keep everything contary to what it must like and all these work. If you click on the pic there's more notes on flickr.
That watch is tremendous.
That watch is tremendous.
It is isn't it (not the most reliable time piece)
just once I got a mobile I just got out of the habit of wearing a watch, plus everything else you look at tells you the time ie. pc screens, freeview tv screen info, train platform indicators you can't look for being told the time.
Progress
Isn't it good that we don't have to wear a watch to know what the time is? I hate wearing a watch and I don't think I now own a working one with an untact strap. I find it a little odd that expensive watches are seen as ultimate luxury items - luxury is not having one.
Not fan of any jewelry
so no big loss not wearing a watch. The extreme of watches you see in GQ etc have never appealed but each their own I so rarely dive to 100 ft and still need to tell the time in 5 times zones :)
nice to see a super 8 camera...
... or is it a Pixelvision camera ? :)
It's a Reflex Auto Zoom TLX
820!!
I have few more but this was the most retro looking! It cost a whole £2.50 from a car boot and took good pictures.
R.I.(m)P(3)
I have a drawer in the garage which is effectively a gadget graveyard. I shall endeavour to take a photograph when I get in.
Iphone 3g
Recently passed, sadly missed, always in my heart.
Apparently they don't like being immersed in coffee. Who would have guessed?
Anyone know where you can buy second hand ones?
128MB! Knock yourself out!
First portable mp3 player seen in our household, a Christmas present to the wife the best part of a decade ago. Check out the fact that she could now listen to 2 hours - yes, you heard me, hours - of digitised music. Cost: the same cash outlay these days would probably buy you an 8Gb iPod Nano, but that's progress for you.
They're great!
I bought one of the 512Mb iRivers a few years back, to replace my first mp3 recorder (by Mercury) which had died. Its main use was for recording band rehearsals and gigs by taking a line out from the mixer, and it's been brilliant - audio quality is streets ahead of the Mercury and battery life is dozens of hours on a single AA. The line-in mp3 recording is fairly rare, and I liked it so much that I got another off eBay.
Mike "Seventies" Johnson offers this...
....from his bottom drawer.
It's an IRiver Multi Codec Jukebox.
It does lots of brilliant things.
Want it?
I'm squinting at the screen here, but
I reckon I've one of those too. 40Gb harddrive, and the best Apple were offering at the time was 30Gb. It has a remote control, a radio and you could load it up with alternative firmware that allowed you play games and make the screen display look like an ipod.
It's not the sexiest bit of clobber, but as I said when I was buying it 'It'll be in my pocket, it's not for posing with...'
iRiver
My brother used to swear by this. Someone should take up the offer.
Got one
and have no intention of changing any time soon.
On a slightly different tack
but something close to my heart at the moment (if not my wallet).
Has anyone any experience of getting ipods repaired? Got two nanos, one about 5 years old not so worried about repairing but another less than 18 months old and screen has a constant lock symbol on it so cannot do anything with it. Have tried all the tips on tech threads, still hooks up to itunes OK but cannot select or do anything with it. Both of these have the same problem!
Are they worth sending away to these sites you see on the internet?
Have you tried this?
Art,
My son's nano has exactly the same problem. Do you by any change use it on a dock quite a bit? He does and that's what seems to cause the problem. We managed to 'fix' it as follows:
1. Insert a charger or other lead into the port at the base of the nano. It doesn't need to be plugged into a PC or a power socket, but it won't matter if it is.
2. Push the lead down with a very slight force so that the part inserted into the nano moves up a couple of millimetres.
3. Remove the lead.
4. Try the wheel again.
This seems to have worked for Joe's iPod, though he does have to re-do the above steps every couple of days.
It's a fairly common problem, it would seem...
Thanks Red
Thats not one ive heard so i will give it a go.....
Any
joy?
I give you the Sharp MiniDisc Recorder
Has any other format had such a short lifespan? This was cutting edge for about three weeks - but when? I think I brought this in 2001 or 2002 - but I can't be sure. Not long after my purchase someone showed me an Rio MP3 player and although I didn't immediately realise the error of my ways it didn't take long. In an attempt to make my good on my outlay I tried using it for recording interviews - but truth be told it wasn't very good at that either.
i still use minidiscs
and I can't be the only one here -there must be at least two of us! Great format. I even have a MD player in the car.
The format had a longer life than you might think, by the way - MD was introduced in the early 90s.
Digital Compact Cassette
I like the automated tray
together with a digital display that tells you it's open.
What's the betting they gave it an automated tray loader because most CD players had 'em.
DCC
I was a reader of Hi-Fi magazines back in the Late '80s/early '90s. I was sure that DCC would prevail over MD and one day,passing Hi- Fi Corner in Glasgow,decided to take the plunge. On informing the staff member that I intended to buy the Philips DCC deck ,and being about to reach for my credit card,said staff member ( i hesitate to call him salesman ) advised me not to buy but to " wait and see how things turned out". Wise words indeed.
I'm probably being a bit harsh ...
And I stand corrected. The plus points of the MiniDisc above, for me, was that it was easy to record vinyl and the sound was pretty good. I also liked the fact that it ran forever off a single AA battery. But MP3 players did kill it off pretty quickly.
As I said, I did try to use it for recording interviews. I believe MiniDisc players are still used in broadcast journalism, but it was overtaken in that job for me by a Sony Digital Voice Recorder which did away with the need for a tape or disc and came with software that made transcribing easier. That particular piece of kit is still going strong after seven years.
aaaaah the mini disc
I ahve a sony mini disc recorderr
bought for field recording of concerts
i then heard they were going to stop making the high MD discs so I bought quite a few boxes online .It was then my mics died and I haven't got around to replacing.
Next time i looked the md recorder was redundant
doh!
MiniDisc
I still have 2 portable minidisc players (one Sharp, One Sony)gathering dust, and a Sony MD player/recorder in the hifi stack. I have loads of MD recordings of radio shows from the early 2000s.
My old Saab 900 had a MD player that I fitted myself. Unfortunately, one rainy night, some scrote broke into the car (smashed window) and nicked it, along with the CD changer in the boot and all my work tools.
Very handy for a car, MiniDiscs. You can get loads more of them in the glove compartment than cassettes or CDs.
My mp3/WMA player
I've got one of these. 5 years old, 20gb storage, still in daily use:
iBlock
My trusty ol' Creative Zen Xtra. Says 40GB, but I upgraded it to 120 a few years back. Five years service, and only semi-retired, when I got a Blackberry in July.
Our wedding music, playlists for friends parties, guest mixes for various websites have all been compiled and curated on this not-so-little cracker.

I had one of these breezeblocky monsters
Suffered from the dreaded hard drive whirr-click of death. I even tried the last resort of hard drive resurrection attempts by bagging it up and putting it in the freezer. Didn't work.
When it was alive, it did its job nicely (as long as you bypassed the awful software). And sound quality was excellent.
Good memories
I had one of these, just about the same time that Word magazine came out. between the two of them they re-ignited my ability to listen to music in the amounts I wanted. Led to many happy hours even if I eventually went over to the ipod.
My beautiful Leica M3...
This is a rubbish photo of it, but you get the idea. I love it and use it, but perhaps not as often as I should.
Me Leica.
Looks like it has an Art Deco building on top.
You're absolutely right about it looking very Art Deco...
it is in fact the hotshoe light meter (optional).
Great stuff
Is that Secret Squirrels camera?
That
Is a thing of beauty.
Quite a good complementary thread here
as well:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/what-will-you-leave-your-great-gra...
if I can locate the contents of our calculator "museum" I might take some pics, for now I'll just say we have an HP35
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/13/hp-celebrates-35th-anniversary-of-hp-...
Nokia Communicator
Apple Newton
and an Ericsson R380
(and a dead U2 iPod as it happens)
Remind me
there was an issue of Q (I think) many years ago which had a minidisc-style format tipped-on to the cover. About 3" square. Might have been a minidisc now I think about it, although I remember it being fatter.
The idea was you were supposed to take it down to your local hi-fi emporium where they would demonstrate it for you.
Anyone remember this? I won't be offended if it turns out I've made it up
I think you're right, Captain.
I seem to remember keeping the disc for a while.
Something makes me think it was stuck on the cover which had Terence Trent D'Arby in the rik on it. But I'm probably wrong.
You may already have won a prize
I don't know about the cover but I still have the minidisc. It was part of a promotion to get readers to visit a store and discover how the mini disc could change their life... possibly.
Each disc had a something recorded on it but a number of them had a special message to say that the reader had won a prize. The only way to hear the message was to visit a store for a demo (mainly because there was very little chance of knowing anyone with a player!). I wonder how many of those prizes were claimed. This must have been around 1987/8 and I eventually got myself a portable minidisc player in about 2001 - I played the disc and I hadn't won.
I'm sure that a couple of months after the first disc there was a compilation CD on the cover that you could send to Sony who would exchange it for the same thing on a minidisc - it was called something like DCCCD .. or is my memory veering wildly now?
I remember the DCCCD CD but I think it was a Philips
promotion for DCC, hence the name ;-)
It was this issue...
...(Terence Trent D'Arby? Come off it, grandad!) from 1993: -
I have a copy with the MiniDisc still attached, somewhere...
My First Mobile
Hmmm
I think that's Mark Ellen's current mobile.
Good Phones
I have a fondness for the old thing, very reliable indeed.
I've got loads of old Apple stuff - Macs, II/III, Newtons etc
but I also have one of these:
I actually learned how to use the chording keyboard when I used it as an prganiser (early 80s?) but over time I used less of the organiser functions until it ended up in a box. It still works though :-)
Long live the video flesh
Psions seem to be one of many examples where emulators have now stepped in to offer the experience, my favourite is the mad idea of a ZX81 on a DS ...
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/nintendo-ds/zx81-emulator-ds81-v11a.html
Though I can't talk-I still use the contacts software for a Palm on my laptop while I wait to decide which way to jump in the smartphone world ...
PS actually I think my all time favourite emulator was xhpcalc
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv016.cgi?read=10438...
Sorry for being stupid but....
how do I get a picture to show up in my posts? I've found a picture on Google images of my prized piece of deadgear. I know the address of said picture. When I pasted it into my message and previewed it, it showed as a link. How do I make it show as a picture?
Check out how to post a picture
in the faq section.
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/faq/
say if you atill have problems.
Use the link below, Vince.
http://imageshack.us/
It'll upload the image, or the location, and convert it into HTML to paste into your post. Very simple. It must be. I can use it.
I use this on most days.
I use this on most days. Unlike the shiny one in the pic mine has 25 years of grime on the keypad. It costs about £7.50 to change the batteries every 5 years or so. My local watch repairer smiles as I explain that I'm sentimentally attached to it
Thanks for the help Lenny & Chris G. I knew there was a FAQ and spent a while looking for it, but how would a mere mortal know where to find it?
good on you, vince...
try gettin' the young folk to make the word BOOBIES appear on an ipod and the little mites are stumped!
try the FAQ on finding the FAQs
;-)
That's a pretty calculator
most of mine were a bit more severe but I have one of these
in an office drawer-just needs a new battery. I should take it out and leave it lying around really, 'cos it looks the part.
Bought it with my first real pay cheque I think. Mine would look similar to the pic as hasn't had enough real use.
The one and phoney (sorry)
The only mobile phone I've ever owned was a Siemens S25 purchased in March 2000 from the flagship Virgin Megastore on London Oxford Street.
It had a reassuring weight to it and, unusually for the times, a three colour screen. When you switched it on it played a short animation of a clown juggling.
One of the phone’s features was the ability to compose ringtones on a very basic recreation of manuscript paper. It was around this time that I attended a series of lectures at Gresham College in Holborn, where the pianist, Joanna MacGregor, demonstrated John Cage’s prepared piano and (along with five other musicians) memorably recreated Steve Reich’s Music For Six Pianos.
I remember a lecture where she played one of Béla Bartók’s Hungarian folk sketches. Afterwards photocopied sheet music was passed around. On the train journey home I attempted to program it into my phone. This was before polyphonic ringtones. The end result bore a strong resemblance to the music that accompanied the side-scrolling beat-‘em-up arcade games of my youth.
The phone never got much use. I have a small circle of friends who I see occasionally, usually on a one-to-one basis. I can’t remember the last time I made a phone call that wasn’t work-related; I have no use for unlimited texts. The last time it was charged was at the beginning of 2009 when I signed on at the Job Centre and needed to be easily contactable. I put the number on the top of my CV along with the rest of my contact details. Everyday I would send off copies to potential employers. None of them ever called back.
I remember
a friend at Uni recreating OMD's "Electricty" on a Casio like this
http://picasaweb.google.com/phoenixgadgets/CasioFX5000VintageCalculatorM...
or similar. Unfortunately the looping inserted a slight hiccup at every repetition ...
Some still in use...
A quick riffle around my desk conjurs up a number of Palm OS things, and my first computer. The calculator I used for my GCSE's and Nokia are still in daily use.
I don't know if this is still the case
But Nokia 6310s had a pretty good second-hand resale value long after Nokia stopped making them, on account of their exceptional battery life. They're popular with very heavy phone users who just want to make phone calls.
As ever..
Any outdated stuff I don't use gets chucked. I still use this all the time, though. Purchased in 1982, saw me through 'O' and 'A' levels, haven't touched any of the complicated keys in about 25 years and, frankly, can't remember what most of them do now. Natural logs are now what I get from eating to many nectarines.
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Evidence of a sustained attack with a pair of compasses
by the look of it
Not mine.
I nicked the image off a website. And got the wrong calculator as well. Coming home, I find it's an fx-100.
Silly me.
I've mentioned here before my love of analogue drum machines
This one is dead... but not for long.
Soon my studio will once more echo to the bit from the beginning of Heart Of Glass, New Muzik's Luxury, most of OMDs first two albums, and a lot more besides. And that's BEFORE I programme anything new into it :-)
In the back of a closet somewhere
I have an ancient radio with a remote control at the end of a VERY long cord. My first VCR had one of those as well, only the cord was much shorter.
My washing machine of 25 years just packed it in. I'm guessing that the new one that I just ordered won't last longer than five years at the most...
And isn't it funny how something always breaks down as soon as you're getting a little extra money ? My tax refund arrived the same week as the washing machine died...almost exactly the same amount that the new machine will cost me! Well hoo-fucking-ray...
Obsolete yet?
I really hope not
No it's not....
....but the muscles in the hand that control it don't work as well as they used to. This is not just age. It's lack of practice.
It still works
Unlike my memory. Can't remember when I bought the bloody thing.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1306/oldgameboy002.jpg
PS
Can somebody tell me how to actually paste the photo in.
Take a look at
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/bring-out-your-dead#comment-301400
Should tell you everything you need
Thank you
Now I can post my holiday snaps
Nestling in the office drawer
Alongside a white iPod spookily like Heppo's (and just as knackered) is this lovely brick of a phone. You might recognise the design as being even older than Mark Ellen's model. The considerable bulk is augmented by a special long-life battery pack so heavy that it subsequently needed taping on. Not bad for the then Deputy Editor of Stuff magazine...

That's what I had
and thank you: you've just saved me the trouble of a dig around the drawer and a trip to Image Shack.
Loved Snake
High score: 1746