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Posted by Chris on 12 November 2011 - 10:45pm.
Refused to sit through X-Factor to catch this, so Youtube it is. You're a hard-hearted old curmudgeon if you don't get a little moist at the John Lewis christmas ad...
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Ho Ho Ho
Have a very non-Scrooge up for that.
My six year old received a "thank you" letter from Santa, yesterday. He kept it in his pocket all day and then slept with it under his pillow. Today he's gone off to a birthday party leaving me with strict instructions NOT TO LOSE IT. Christmas with kids is a hoot.
He's had a bit of a tough life so far but copes pretty well, all things considered. I asked him what his Christmas wish would be and he told me it would be "not to have any more medicine".
I wandered off with a speck of dust in my eye.
Never mind about that auld shite...
Can someone answer me question please?
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/quick-george-harrison-scorcese-bio...
And the award for crassest post of the year goes to...
chabsy.
I'm really hoping you didn't mean to put that post there.
Reply
Many users press the incorrect link when replying, which is obviously what has happened here.
No I think he meant it
made me laugh anyway
Edit - apologies for offence apparently caused by this response from me (which was genuine) but I just liked the sheer unexpected wrongness of the post. Nothing to do with McLongWhiteCloud
Oh well as Zappa said - joke em if they can't take a f***
Yes, it's beautifully done, but...
I am beginning to put up barriers against being "emotionally engaged" by TV ads. It's happening too much.
I am a hard-hearted old curmudgeon
and I'll leave it at that
Advertising types. Knobs. All of them.
But, just occasionally, they show themselves to be very, very clever and creative knobs.
This is such an occasion.
I AM NOT A KNOB.
(or maybe I was when I worked in advertising. But I don't think I'm a knob now)
this suggests another tune by those Smiths
heaven knows I'm not a knob now
knob or nob - i'm never sure
"Last night I dreamt that somebody called me a knob"
(I've always gone for knob over nob)
Knob Over Nob...
The lost Dire Straits gay porn soundtrack album.
Some knobs
are bigger than others, some knobs are bigger than others...
Hannah
Is there no end to your talents ?
Public speaker, Pianist, & now advertising whizz kid.
Next you will be telling me you are a bit of a dab hand in the kitchen.
Thanks Jack!
You're making me blush!
You're making me blush!
Just doing my job M'aam.
Shrewd, manipulative, superb.
Brilliantly executed connection between brand promise and the gooey-ness and expectation around the festive season. Goes to show why the British ad business remains comfortably ahead of the rest of the world.
Still, as Orwell said, it's still "the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."
Not British, but exceptional I think
I have posted this one before. This is the long version but the soundtrack is sublime and the ad itself is genius. And it's for NZ Lotto - but don't let that put you off.
Creepy
I prefer this version of it
It ties in well with Charlie Brooker's theory that there is a dog's head in the box.
apparently
the kid's name is Damien Thorn
Interesting
So, it's the music that makes the ad then....
It's the combination of the Christmas you want for yourself, remembering Christmas past and the impact of it when you're young and most importantly wanting to do the best for your kids that does it for me......obviously with the appropriate soundtrack.
Those without families won't feel it the same I suggest...
Oh fucking hell.
*sobs. Hopes Mrs Bob doesn't hear.*
BASTARDS.
Eh?
I am such a complete wuss that I actually considered starting a thread to find out if anyone is a bigger wuss than me (don't worry folks, I've already copyrighted it). And yet this ad leaves me completely cold. I really don't understand the lachrymosity it seems to have unleashed. It's quite sweet, and that's about as much as I can say.
I'm with you
I cry incredibly easily and am a sucker for things that are designed to tug my heartstrings, but I don't even understand why that makes me people cry particularly.
I think it is quite a good advert and it is sweet (although I do wish advertising creatives would cross "breathy female vocal" off their wish-lists for a couple of years at least) but why all the fuss?
I'm with you too
I'm a real wuss boy and can cry watching film trailers.
However this didn't push my buttons.
MrsXSG, however, seemed to have something in her eye.
Since when
Would a kid that age sleep in till five to eight on Christmas Day?
Advertising nuffies taking liberties with reality again.
Same here
I'm generally suspicious of adverts. It's a nice little twist but I don't understand the fuss.
Of course, I don't have children so that may be it.
Rest assured
I have two children and I think it's shite.
This poses several questions
What have they done to this beautiful song?
Will I ever again be able to watch the art gallery sequence from Ferris Bueller's Day Off without thinking of John fricking Lewis?
What am I going to get my Mum for Xmas?
Again, I have to say it-
that is a dreadful version of a great Smiths tune.
FFS Get a grip!
Some stage school kiddies and a piano cover being played like those dozy "I like old movies" twats from that dating ad sounding like a lush who can't remember the words.
Watch the end of "This Is England" when Clayhill (in the words of Louis Walsh feckin' own that that song) and the images brilliantly echo its lyrical bleakness.
Each
to his or her own of course but I find that just as dreadful. The Smiths own that song. No cover can match it. Let alone improve on it.
I hate the
I hate the over-commercialism of Christmas - but I find this advert fascinating - the little boy is great and so is his brother? in the gruffalo gear.
It helps if you have children and can remember how long it took for crimble to arrive when you were young.
And so much better than that bloody coke advert!
This is it.
A combination of how Christmas was for us when we were little (always a magic time), how I still feel about Christmas at the age of 33, and how my little girls feel about it. All the magic is fully intact for them, and it's lovely.
It just captured it.
Also, I bloody love John Lewis and just the thought of it makes me weep joyfully.
The John Lewis Partnership is a workers co-operative.
The Co-Op also seems to be becoming more dominant. They are taking over corner shops everywhere.
These are, essentially, communist organisations.
COMMIES! GODDAMM COMMIES!
We'll all be speaking Russian by Easter, mark my words.
Or Chinese. Possibly.
And it won't be Easter, either. It'll be the Spring Festival Of Our Glorious People Who Like The Organic Chicken Thigh Fillets.
except
for Swedish vegetarian comrades for whom it will be the Spring Festival Of Our Glorious People Who Like Quörn Again
Not quite a co-op
The JL Partnership is less egalitarian - and more complex - than a co-op. In fact, if I remember rightly, the original intention was to revitalise capitalism, JL being a dedicated anti-socialist. Still has much to commend it though.
Come the revolution
It'll be a DVD section full of 'Boy Meets Tractor While Exceeding The Glorious Lentil Quota' love stories you mark my words.
I am big fan of JL and The Co-op and in the end what is comes down to is - I would rather they had my money than KMart or Terry F***g Leahy.
Though I sometimes park on the Hexham Tesco's carpark (free) and walk 300 yards to Waitrose to save 30p. Does this make me a hypocrite or am I striking a blow for the workers?
My mate Rich is a Co-Op manager in Colchester.
When he found out that Tesco were selling petrol at a loss to try and bring in punters, he tried to get all the Co-Op van drivers to fill up there because the fuel was cheap and it'd take lumps out of Tesco's profits. His idea was, however, ruled out by those above him.
He tells some interesting stories about the Co-Operative movement. They're a good company.
You have made me laugh out loud
so thanks I needed that - although GLW is looking at me like I've lost it.
No! Noooo! NOOOOO!
it annoys me on so many levels I don't even know where to start...so I won't.
Got nothing to do with
the b-side of William It Was Really Nothing which I bought someday in 1985, having been reviewed by Pat Nevin in the NME and made me feel great.
Happy for them to make more money. As for John Lewis, I don't really know where or what it is. Certainly no shop of that name near me.
Love it
Thanks for posting, Chris. I hadn't seen that before.
I'm not one for getting over-emotional about these things (Toy Story 3, which was supposed to have me crying my eyes out, didn't have that effect at all) but I found that quite moving. Maybe because even as a middle-aged man I still love Christmas.
The brand match is predictable, but well executed.
The business is well run, the staff are professional and the shops are warm and inviting, especially when the frost's on the ground. It's when you actually go to do some Christmas shopping in John Lewis that the awful reality hits home. These blank faced consumers you're rubbing shoulders with actually don't give a shit about the co-operative nature of the enterprise, the quality and taste of the Chinese made geegaws on sale, or the sheer niceness of the shopping environment. No, none of it matters anymore, here at the retail coal face in the run up to the year's best sales figures, the only thing left in their minds is that they just want to get the fucking Christmas shopping done.
Hard hearted old curmudgeon.
Hard hearted old curmudgeon. - Yeah, thats me.
I thought it was sentimental tosh.
Mind you, the mother...
I couldn't see beyond the petulant pout of the boy
My 'emotional reaction' to it was that he needs a smack upside the face with a giant comedy 'Vic & Bob' style frying pan.
Tough love Stimps
Just not fashionable any more is it?
Which
of his parents' credit cards did he nick to buy the thing?
the John Lewis Partnership Card
(other forms of debt indenture are available)
He must have done better than me
I remember the first year when I was allowed to buy Christmas presents for my family, I must have been around five years old.
My mum walked me to the small tobacconist/corner shop, gave me some money and waited outside.
I was in there for an eternity, looking at the small and odd assortment of knick-knacks, stationery and candy trying to figure out what would suit the different members of my family.
In the end I just bought as many little things as I could afford and saved the decisions for when I got them home.
Armed with wrapping paper, ribbons, tape, scissors and Christmas stickers I then picked up one item at a time and thought "who would this be a good gift for ?", wrote their name on the sticker and forgot all about what I had just wrapped.
As was evident on Christmas Eve when the family members unwrapped their presents and my dad found himself looking at three different phone books...
"Looks like I'll be making a lot of calls this year" was his dry comment, and I felt extremely embarrassed.
The year after that I managed to buy fewer items than I needed, so my two older sisters got to share a packet of wet-wipes for Christmas.
It took me a few years of trial and error to get to grips with the art of buying gifts.
(These days I am proud to say that I have a solid reputation among friends and family to always come up with the perfect gifts, so I did eventually learn.)
Laughed out loud
twice.
"Looks like I'll be making a lot of calls this year"
I have laughed and laughed.
Totally cheered me up on a really crap night! Cheers to you and your dad!
Thanks
I'll pass that on to my dad, he just had an operation so he could do with some cheers + ups = cheering up!
I'll give him a call. (Now where did I write that number down...?)
Slow Moving Millie
Am in the "sentimental old claptrap" camp as far as the advert's concerned, but equally I'm a bit of sucker for the "breathy voiced cover version" so I don't mind the song itself.
There's more on Slow Moving Millie (for it is she/they who're responsible) and including a link to the song in full, here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/nov/11/new-band-slow-moving-millie
Vomit
That song meant a lot to me in my youth. Hate to see it used to sell bourgeois tat to the Margo & Jeremys of this world. Is Moz skint or something?
That bourgeois tat...
...I'd imagine the ex-Smiths fan is probably almost the perfect John Lewis demographic.
Ouch.
Mind, Cameron does claim to be a fan...
My though exactly JoLean
On seeing the ad, I thought Moz himself might shop at John Lewis:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/does-morrisey-shop-john-lewis
and that is why the store has managed to get permission for two Smiths song in their Xmas ads.
"Interestingly..."
I remember Moz talking about buying shirts from DH Evans back in 1983.
I love this
This is possibly the quintessential Word post - really laughed out loud
I enjoy the odd bit of shameless heart-string-tugging
Thanks for this!
Just to underline the belief
that proceedings start earlier each year...
The Great Escape is on Channel 5 right now!!
Merry Christmas everybody.
I've got a better message for John Lewis
http://youtu.be/TRbp0ZIehk0
(Edit: How the F@*! do you get YouTube vids to embed?! I've copied & pasted the code, but it comes up blank)
Like this!
.be
(just cut and paste the full page URL)
Thanks!
I was trying to use the 'embed' code.
YouTube
Don't use the youtu.be short code - that's meant for Twitter, where characters are limited. The easiest way is just to copy the full URL from the address bar in your browser.
If you want to use the full embed code, click "share" then "embed", and copy the code that's displayed.
I usually steer clear of
I usually steer clear of these threads lest i annoy anyone with my opinionated ways - but I have to with this one.
I am no stranger to a bit of the old 'i have something in my eye, when did we last dust??' whilst watching TV, but this didn't have that effect on me at all! I get the twist & the clever filming but I cannot understand the outpouring of emotion over it on my twitter & facebook feeds! At the end of the day it is an ad for a department store is it not?!
This advert on the other hand is a lot better done and has the major plus of advertising something worthwhile;
new barnardos advert
i'll save my tears for this one i think
new barnardos advert
As someone who spent about 3 years in the care "system" in my younger days, can I just say that I thought this advert was very moving & powerful.
It put a tear in the eye & a lump in the throat of a grizzly old, cynical ex sailor.
Many thanks for posting it seanioio.
My wife and I saw the 30 second
version of that last night just before we went to bed. One of those moments when we were ready to switch off the TV, stopped, sat back down again, watched, looked at each other to check for tears and difficult swallowing, smiled at each other, turned everything off, went upstairs, checked on the kids and stood for a couple of minutes longer than normal in their rooms looking down at them and counting our blessings.
That said, I don't save tears for anything any more. I gave up holding back the day my wife told me she was pregnant with our first child. I honestly think I'd make myself ill if I didn't let tears flow when something triggers that level of emotional response in me. So I welled up the first time I saw the John Lewis ad and I welled up last night when I saw the Barnardo's ad. In the long run it's less damaging mentally and less stressful than constantly trying to qualify how I feel about something because there was a deliberate attempt by someone who was paid to make me feel that way. It's tiring trying to be objective and analytical about people's motives all the time in order to control my emotional receptors to things put out. How f*cked up is that as a way of living and experiencing life, to not just respond to what's directly in front of you at face value but rather question its "validity"?
I cry at classical music I've bought, much of it by composers commissioned to do so. I cry at paintings, many of them painted by artists commissioned to do so. I cry at performances of actors paid to make me feel that way. So I cry at commissioned ads designed to remind me that, aside from selling John Lewis, Christmas is about family and I marvel at the unexpected twist in the ending that reflects values I hope to instil in my own kids: giving rather than receiving.
Why is that manipulation of my emotions inherently cynical by the people commissioned to create that ad? Why is there a need to assume that cold, detached and manipulative people are in charge of the process rather than people who care about their work and are attempting to be unique and creative by working to a brief that is about producing a product that resonates with its audience and which displays a positive value system based on a perceived mood of the nation? A lot of thought has gone into that ad to create a sense of goodwill. I'd argue it does nothing to get me to walk into a John Lewis store but it does everything to remind me that John Lewis is an employee owned cooperative that prides itself on quality of service and product. I think that's a good thing.
I'm sure the people who made the Barnardo's ad also got paid and were equally conscious of the desired effect they wanted to instil in viewers as were the people who made the John Lewis ad. Both still want my money and my tears.
The John Lewis ad
It's no different to X-Factor. Tugging the viewers' heartstrings in order to attract their custom. Why let the guard of cynicism down for John Lewis, but not for X-Factor?
I'll start off
by saying that I see a significant difference between the John Lewis ad and X-Factor. I'm astonished if people can't.
I'll keep it brief and limit it to one point. On a very basic level there's no individual being treated like a disposable commodity in the John Lewis ad in the name of "entertainment", no one with dreams being pissed on by self-obsessed celebrities with god complexes, no vulnerable people being paraded on screen as valid targets for scorn and ridicule because their lack of social skills or their lack of self-awareness are considered fair game and a valid form of entertainment. The John Lewis ad doesn't mock anyone.
Well, because it's an advert.
It's meant to try and attract custom because it's an advert. The X Factor may be trying to attract you to vote for one or other of the contestants, but in theory it's a talent show programme to entertain you. So, the cynicism is obviously for something that is pretending it's something other than what it is....
That is wonderful
Actually I quite like the JL ad - part of its charm is that it's clearly bonkers. The "dog's head in the box" theory makes as much sense as anything else; for one thing, as he goes into their bedroom it's broad daylight - that's one hell of a lie-in when it's only a few days after the Winter solstice.
But the Barnardos advert is fantastic - a great idea, brilliantly executed. Made me watch it again just to spot the actor changeovers.
Actually the Ad itself is not good - Just think about it.....
So, this six year old is one of the few that doesn't believe in Santa as he bought his parents a pressie. Oh, and how did he find a time slot to secretly wrap the pressie? He must of used scissors and stuff to get that present so neatly wrapped - mmm a six year old left to wrap pressies with scissors unsupervised - call the social services. Finally, where the hell did he get the spondies to buy such a big pressie and the ostentatious wrapping? Must be a banker's brat. Ergo: THEY DON"T DESERVE THAT PRESSIE!!
:-)
All excellent points BigJimBob
and they seem to add weight to the "The dog's head is in the box" theory.
1. The kid has no money. What can he afford? A gift which costs nothing but his time and exhibits his creativity.
2. It's a small step from using a scissors unsupervised to working with a knife and hacksaw.
3. The family in an ad this syrupy should have a cute dog sniffing around their ankles. Where is it? This is a classic example of "the puppy that didn't yap"...
Bang on STD
...and maybe the dog is wrapped up like a mummy in one of those long and soft bog-rolls they love to run around with.
Its throat slashed
with a sharpened store loyalty card
All I know for sure
is that the FPO will want a copy of the song now it has been steamrollered into mediocrity and has reached an audience of more than five million.
A better cover version of the song
of course, would be this one:
A sweet little twist
...but nothing special, and not a patch on the 'just like a woman' campaign of a couple of years ago (same goes for the music). Not entirely certain why it would reduce grown adults to tears (and I speak as someone who scored an 'I'm pleased it's dark in the cinema' on the First-Ten-Minutes-Of-Up scale), but it's clearly done it's job.
On the other hand, it's certainly sold me a Gruffalo costume - they look fantastic.
On a more serious note, McLongWhiteClud's few words at the top of this thread made me shut the office door while I demisted the glasses. I hope your boy gets his wish - and you get yours - one day.
Thanks.
Appreciate the thought, Uncle Monty. The kid's ok. He just needs a bit of extra care and attention. As long he gets that, all is cool. And he's change his mind about the Christmas wish. He told his mum that he wants a "noisy guitar like Daddy's ".
That's my boy.
Yeah you can see what its TRYING to do..
.. but you'd have to be a real sop to swallow that. Doesn't strike you as genuine in any way, either in the editing, the shooting, or the 'performance'. Far too contrived and pushing the obvious buttons.
Interesting twist
but ghastly child.
Can someone explain: where would a child that young get the money - or even have the wherewithal in the first place - to buy a gift that big?
Didn't move me at all. The whole ad felt like an eternity. I don't like having my buttons pressed.
Don't like the cover version either.
Isn't it obvious what's in the box?
(Video is Adam Buxton's 15 Step/Seven Video)
Parodytastic
I'd like to see ones where he finds his parents:
a) at it
or
b) putting together a bike, his main present from 'Santa'.
Luckily only (b) has happened to me thus far.
I loved the ad, even though I didn't like the cover version much, and I too had a tear in my eye.
A proud curmudgeon writes
I unfollowed Charlie Brooker on Twitter for his foul rants about this ad, the overgrown, Xbox-bothering twonk. Yes, yes, yes, the cover's not much cop, the parents would be traipsing around exhausted in their John Lewis dressing gowns long before the sun came streaming into their bedroom (on December 25th the sun, at best, dribbles apologetically) as the younger son rattled around with the box of his big present on his head, and NO child has ever done what the older child does on awaking on Christmas Day.
But it's beautifully made, it's funny & the kid is fantastic. The cockles of this dedicated Yule avoider's heart are still being warmed by it, even on the fifth viewing tonight.
Mind you, the little bugger's made a rubbish job of wrapping his present after making such a song and dance about giving it.
I still love Charlie.
But he does get a bee in his bonnet about stuff. The lizard jokes were really funny, but he pushed those for too long as well.
I don't really mind if he hates this ad. I like it. As with anything, if someone else hates something I like, I couldn't generally give a rusty fuck. It doesn't dampen my liking.
I showed it to Mrs B the other night. We both had something in our eye, even though I knew what was coming. Sure, I'm being emotionally manipulated. But as long as I know I am, so what?
Just awful...
... in every way, apart from it's well made (big deal).
Who watched ads though?
I'm utterly gobsmacked by the fuss it has caused (mainly on Twitter and the internet rather than the real world admittedly. Oh, and the Guardian which is OBSESSED with it), because who watches TV ads now?
I've seen this one owing to this thread and links on Twitter, but not on actually telly. Doesn't everyone just forward the ads through nowadays?
(I don't have Sky Plus before you ask, just Freeview).
Interesting...
I think a lot of advertising agencies try to make ads they think will be shared on YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter. Concepts are deliberately pitched to go 'viral' now, as this is far more likely to reach people.
If I was in charge of a firm's TV advertising budget, I'd go for the "Sponsors of" bit at the beginning and end of each show and ad break. I skip through ads, and look out for the logo of the company that's sponsoring the show so I know when to let go of the fast forward button. So in an hour show with three breaks, that's eight times I'll see that product name.
Viral
Yes, the agency have done an amazing job at making this ad go viral. Very admiring of it.
And of course, those so incensed by it have helped enormously too.
Hmm so you'd make it as intrusive as possible then
"Wow.. There's Tom Cruise throwing branded KFC chicken wings at a CGI Ronald McDonald!"
I'm the same
Not Sky+, but I've got a Digibox with a hard-disc recorder which works the same way. If the 118 man appears, it's time to stop fast-forwarding as The Simpsons are back on!
But has anyone gone to John Lewis
as a result of seeing this advert? The shop isn't mentioned until the end, and the ad assumes that you know what they sell.
Perhaps it creates some awareness of the shops, but that must be hard to assess. I was in John Lewis last week, because I know that they sell the kind of domestic goods I was looking for (storage boxes). This advert didn't tell me about that.
I've only known a couple of people in advertising, but I've had the impression from them that this kind of general brand promotion is an act of faith by both the client and the agency. It just seems like a good idea, but you never really know if it's worked in increasing sales, unlike say adverts that tell you that Bacardi is £15 a litre at a supermarket.
Very funny FakeGeordie
Very funny.
Sorry to rattle your cage
It was the sheer perversity of it I liked.
Don't like upsetting people by accident so sorry for that
Cage unrattled
Seriously, I wasn't irked. I was joining in the joke! I just think I got the wrong joke.
At the risk of disappearing
in a big a puff of circular referencing and introspection - cheers for that
Just a bit of a thought
it's a great add because we're all talking about it, job done. The cover version is the true meaning of "meh", but here's the thing, well I wonder if this will increase sales of The Smiths box set. I've had them on my iPod all day today because I wanted to hear PPPLMGWIW and I haven't listened to them for a while and I've dropped hint the size of that kids present that I want the remastered cd's for Christmas. Mozza and Marr up to a bit of product placement?
You are not wrong there.
I can also see Janet of X-Factor singing PPPLMGWIW.
X-Factor
It'd suit Janet, but the X-Factor contestants are part of a rival M&S ad campaign, so I can't see it happening.
True
But she could trump them with a lovely version of this:
(Half A Person)
Dog's head?
Cynical, manipulative ad that's totally unrealistic. What kid does that these days? If ever?
And apparently it's a dog's head in the box....
Top tip
If you dislike the John Lewis Christmas ad, try watching the Littlewood's Christmas ad instead. Ghastly.