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Refused to sit through X-Factor to catch this, so Youtube it is. You're a hard-hearted old curmudgeon if you don't get a little moist at the John Lewis christmas ad...

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Ho Ho Ho

Have a very non-Scrooge up for that.
My six year old received a "thank you" letter from Santa, yesterday. He kept it in his pocket all day and then slept with it under his pillow. Today he's gone off to a birthday party leaving me with strict instructions NOT TO LOSE IT. Christmas with kids is a hoot.

He's had a bit of a tough life so far but copes pretty well, all things considered. I asked him what his Christmas wish would be and he told me it would be "not to have any more medicine".
I wandered off with a speck of dust in my eye.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 12 November 2011 - 11:15pm
chabsy | 15 November 2011 - 2:53am

And the award for crassest post of the year goes to...

chabsy.

I'm really hoping you didn't mean to put that post there.

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Rosbif | 16 November 2011 - 12:31am

Reply

Many users press the incorrect link when replying, which is obviously what has happened here.

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Spartacus Mills | 16 November 2011 - 12:23pm

No I think he meant it

made me laugh anyway

Edit - apologies for offence apparently caused by this response from me (which was genuine) but I just liked the sheer unexpected wrongness of the post. Nothing to do with McLongWhiteCloud

Oh well as Zappa said - joke em if they can't take a f***

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FakeGeordie | 17 November 2011 - 9:50pm

Yes, it's beautifully done, but...

I am beginning to put up barriers against being "emotionally engaged" by TV ads. It's happening too much.

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Austin | 12 November 2011 - 11:20pm

I am a hard-hearted old curmudgeon

and I'll leave it at that

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Glenbervie | 12 November 2011 - 11:41pm

Advertising types. Knobs. All of them.

But, just occasionally, they show themselves to be very, very clever and creative knobs.

This is such an occasion.

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Lenny Law | 12 November 2011 - 11:42pm

I AM NOT A KNOB.

(or maybe I was when I worked in advertising. But I don't think I'm a knob now)

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Hannah | 13 November 2011 - 12:00am

this suggests another tune by those Smiths

heaven knows I'm not a knob now

knob or nob - i'm never sure

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Glenbervie | 13 November 2011 - 12:30am

"Last night I dreamt that somebody called me a knob"

(I've always gone for knob over nob)

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Hannah | 13 November 2011 - 12:42am

Knob Over Nob...

The lost Dire Straits gay porn soundtrack album.

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Adman | 13 November 2011 - 6:14pm

Some knobs

are bigger than others, some knobs are bigger than others...

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Ahh_Bisto | 14 November 2011 - 4:50pm

Hannah

Is there no end to your talents ?

Public speaker, Pianist, & now advertising whizz kid.

Next you will be telling me you are a bit of a dab hand in the kitchen.

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jackthebiscuit | 13 November 2011 - 9:30am

Thanks Jack!

You're making me blush!

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Hannah | 13 November 2011 - 10:48pm

You're making me blush!

Just doing my job M'aam.

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jackthebiscuit | 14 November 2011 - 12:17pm

Shrewd, manipulative, superb.

Brilliantly executed connection between brand promise and the gooey-ness and expectation around the festive season. Goes to show why the British ad business remains comfortably ahead of the rest of the world.

Still, as Orwell said, it's still "the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."

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Dadwardo | 13 November 2011 - 12:28am

Not British, but exceptional I think

I have posted this one before. This is the long version but the soundtrack is sublime and the ad itself is genius. And it's for NZ Lotto - but don't let that put you off.

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Austin | 13 November 2011 - 12:50am

Creepy

I prefer this version of it

It ties in well with Charlie Brooker's theory that there is a dog's head in the box.

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Skuds | 12 November 2011 - 11:47pm

apparently

the kid's name is Damien Thorn

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Glenbervie | 13 November 2011 - 12:27am

Interesting

So, it's the music that makes the ad then....

It's the combination of the Christmas you want for yourself, remembering Christmas past and the impact of it when you're young and most importantly wanting to do the best for your kids that does it for me......obviously with the appropriate soundtrack.

Those without families won't feel it the same I suggest...

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jockblue | 14 November 2011 - 11:34am

Oh fucking hell.

*sobs. Hopes Mrs Bob doesn't hear.*

BASTARDS.

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Bob | 12 November 2011 - 11:47pm

Eh?

I am such a complete wuss that I actually considered starting a thread to find out if anyone is a bigger wuss than me (don't worry folks, I've already copyrighted it). And yet this ad leaves me completely cold. I really don't understand the lachrymosity it seems to have unleashed. It's quite sweet, and that's about as much as I can say.

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Rosbif | 13 November 2011 - 12:37am

I'm with you

I cry incredibly easily and am a sucker for things that are designed to tug my heartstrings, but I don't even understand why that makes me people cry particularly.

I think it is quite a good advert and it is sweet (although I do wish advertising creatives would cross "breathy female vocal" off their wish-lists for a couple of years at least) but why all the fuss?

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JoLean | 13 November 2011 - 1:13am

I'm with you too

I'm a real wuss boy and can cry watching film trailers.
However this didn't push my buttons.
MrsXSG, however, seemed to have something in her eye.

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Mrxsg | 18 November 2011 - 11:46am

Since when

Would a kid that age sleep in till five to eight on Christmas Day?

Advertising nuffies taking liberties with reality again.

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B Smith | 13 November 2011 - 7:50am

Same here

I'm generally suspicious of adverts. It's a nice little twist but I don't understand the fuss.

Of course, I don't have children so that may be it.

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kidpresentable | 14 November 2011 - 1:52pm

Rest assured

I have two children and I think it's shite.

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Spartacus Mills | 14 November 2011 - 3:57pm

This poses several questions

What have they done to this beautiful song?

Will I ever again be able to watch the art gallery sequence from Ferris Bueller's Day Off without thinking of John fricking Lewis?

What am I going to get my Mum for Xmas?

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eminentdan1978 | 13 November 2011 - 12:45am

Again, I have to say it-

that is a dreadful version of a great Smiths tune.

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eddie g | 13 November 2011 - 12:55am

FFS Get a grip!

Some stage school kiddies and a piano cover being played like those dozy "I like old movies" twats from that dating ad sounding like a lush who can't remember the words.

Watch the end of "This Is England" when Clayhill (in the words of Louis Walsh feckin' own that that song) and the images brilliantly echo its lyrical bleakness.

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DogFacedBoy | 13 November 2011 - 1:14am

Each

to his or her own of course but I find that just as dreadful. The Smiths own that song. No cover can match it. Let alone improve on it.

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eddie g | 14 November 2011 - 12:11pm

I hate the

I hate the over-commercialism of Christmas - but I find this advert fascinating - the little boy is great and so is his brother? in the gruffalo gear.

It helps if you have children and can remember how long it took for crimble to arrive when you were young.

And so much better than that bloody coke advert!

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andrewdavidlong | 13 November 2011 - 1:14am

This is it.

A combination of how Christmas was for us when we were little (always a magic time), how I still feel about Christmas at the age of 33, and how my little girls feel about it. All the magic is fully intact for them, and it's lovely.

It just captured it.

Also, I bloody love John Lewis and just the thought of it makes me weep joyfully.

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Bob | 13 November 2011 - 7:31am

The John Lewis Partnership is a workers co-operative.

The Co-Op also seems to be becoming more dominant. They are taking over corner shops everywhere.

These are, essentially, communist organisations.

COMMIES! GODDAMM COMMIES!

We'll all be speaking Russian by Easter, mark my words.

Or Chinese. Possibly.

And it won't be Easter, either. It'll be the Spring Festival Of Our Glorious People Who Like The Organic Chicken Thigh Fillets.

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Lenny Law | 13 November 2011 - 1:56am

except

for Swedish vegetarian comrades for whom it will be the Spring Festival Of Our Glorious People Who Like Quörn Again

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Glenbervie | 13 November 2011 - 12:13pm

Not quite a co-op

The JL Partnership is less egalitarian - and more complex - than a co-op. In fact, if I remember rightly, the original intention was to revitalise capitalism, JL being a dedicated anti-socialist. Still has much to commend it though.

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Lando Cakes | 13 November 2011 - 11:55pm

Come the revolution

It'll be a DVD section full of 'Boy Meets Tractor While Exceeding The Glorious Lentil Quota' love stories you mark my words.

I am big fan of JL and The Co-op and in the end what is comes down to is - I would rather they had my money than KMart or Terry F***g Leahy.

Though I sometimes park on the Hexham Tesco's carpark (free) and walk 300 yards to Waitrose to save 30p. Does this make me a hypocrite or am I striking a blow for the workers?

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FakeGeordie | 14 November 2011 - 11:54am

My mate Rich is a Co-Op manager in Colchester.

When he found out that Tesco were selling petrol at a loss to try and bring in punters, he tried to get all the Co-Op van drivers to fill up there because the fuel was cheap and it'd take lumps out of Tesco's profits. His idea was, however, ruled out by those above him.

He tells some interesting stories about the Co-Operative movement. They're a good company.

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Lenny Law | 14 November 2011 - 1:36pm

You have made me laugh out loud

so thanks I needed that - although GLW is looking at me like I've lost it.

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daddyclark | 17 November 2011 - 9:58pm

No! Noooo! NOOOOO!

it annoys me on so many levels I don't even know where to start...so I won't.

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Dr Volume | 13 November 2011 - 4:47am

Got nothing to do with

the b-side of William It Was Really Nothing which I bought someday in 1985, having been reviewed by Pat Nevin in the NME and made me feel great.
Happy for them to make more money. As for John Lewis, I don't really know where or what it is. Certainly no shop of that name near me.

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Mr Fade | 13 November 2011 - 7:03am

Love it

Thanks for posting, Chris. I hadn't seen that before.

I'm not one for getting over-emotional about these things (Toy Story 3, which was supposed to have me crying my eyes out, didn't have that effect at all) but I found that quite moving. Maybe because even as a middle-aged man I still love Christmas.

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Johan | 13 November 2011 - 4:48pm

The brand match is predictable, but well executed.

The business is well run, the staff are professional and the shops are warm and inviting, especially when the frost's on the ground. It's when you actually go to do some Christmas shopping in John Lewis that the awful reality hits home. These blank faced consumers you're rubbing shoulders with actually don't give a shit about the co-operative nature of the enterprise, the quality and taste of the Chinese made geegaws on sale, or the sheer niceness of the shopping environment. No, none of it matters anymore, here at the retail coal face in the run up to the year's best sales figures, the only thing left in their minds is that they just want to get the fucking Christmas shopping done.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 13 November 2011 - 10:39am

Hard hearted old curmudgeon.

Hard hearted old curmudgeon. - Yeah, thats me.

I thought it was sentimental tosh.

Mind you, the mother...

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jackthebiscuit | 13 November 2011 - 12:17pm

I couldn't see beyond the petulant pout of the boy

My 'emotional reaction' to it was that he needs a smack upside the face with a giant comedy 'Vic & Bob' style frying pan.

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stimpy | 13 November 2011 - 12:26pm

Tough love Stimps

Just not fashionable any more is it?

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FakeGeordie | 14 November 2011 - 11:57am

Which

of his parents' credit cards did he nick to buy the thing?

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PeteWingrave | 13 November 2011 - 12:30pm

the John Lewis Partnership Card

(other forms of debt indenture are available)

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Glenbervie | 13 November 2011 - 6:25pm

He must have done better than me

I remember the first year when I was allowed to buy Christmas presents for my family, I must have been around five years old.
My mum walked me to the small tobacconist/corner shop, gave me some money and waited outside.
I was in there for an eternity, looking at the small and odd assortment of knick-knacks, stationery and candy trying to figure out what would suit the different members of my family.
In the end I just bought as many little things as I could afford and saved the decisions for when I got them home.
Armed with wrapping paper, ribbons, tape, scissors and Christmas stickers I then picked up one item at a time and thought "who would this be a good gift for ?", wrote their name on the sticker and forgot all about what I had just wrapped.
As was evident on Christmas Eve when the family members unwrapped their presents and my dad found himself looking at three different phone books...
"Looks like I'll be making a lot of calls this year" was his dry comment, and I felt extremely embarrassed.
The year after that I managed to buy fewer items than I needed, so my two older sisters got to share a packet of wet-wipes for Christmas.
It took me a few years of trial and error to get to grips with the art of buying gifts.
(These days I am proud to say that I have a solid reputation among friends and family to always come up with the perfect gifts, so I did eventually learn.)

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Locust | 13 November 2011 - 3:27pm

Laughed out loud

twice.

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Slick | 15 November 2011 - 2:43am

"Looks like I'll be making a lot of calls this year"

I have laughed and laughed.

Totally cheered me up on a really crap night! Cheers to you and your dad!

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fatMark | 17 November 2011 - 12:52am

Thanks

I'll pass that on to my dad, he just had an operation so he could do with some cheers + ups = cheering up!
I'll give him a call. (Now where did I write that number down...?)

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Locust | 17 November 2011 - 2:34am

Slow Moving Millie

Am in the "sentimental old claptrap" camp as far as the advert's concerned, but equally I'm a bit of sucker for the "breathy voiced cover version" so I don't mind the song itself.

There's more on Slow Moving Millie (for it is she/they who're responsible) and including a link to the song in full, here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/nov/11/new-band-slow-moving-millie

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sjp808 | 13 November 2011 - 4:00pm

Vomit

That song meant a lot to me in my youth. Hate to see it used to sell bourgeois tat to the Margo & Jeremys of this world. Is Moz skint or something?

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Spartacus Mills | 13 November 2011 - 4:05pm

That bourgeois tat...

...I'd imagine the ex-Smiths fan is probably almost the perfect John Lewis demographic.

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JoLean | 13 November 2011 - 6:27pm

Ouch.

Mind, Cameron does claim to be a fan...

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Paolo Meccano | 13 November 2011 - 7:25pm

My though exactly JoLean

On seeing the ad, I thought Moz himself might shop at John Lewis:

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/does-morrisey-shop-john-lewis

and that is why the store has managed to get permission for two Smiths song in their Xmas ads.

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BigJimBob | 13 November 2011 - 8:52pm

"Interestingly..."

I remember Moz talking about buying shirts from DH Evans back in 1983.

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Austin | 13 November 2011 - 11:02pm

I love this

This is possibly the quintessential Word post - really laughed out loud

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FakeGeordie | 14 November 2011 - 12:03pm

I enjoy the odd bit of shameless heart-string-tugging

Thanks for this!

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Douglas | 13 November 2011 - 5:39pm

Just to underline the belief

that proceedings start earlier each year...
The Great Escape is on Channel 5 right now!!

Merry Christmas everybody.

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aging hippy | 13 November 2011 - 7:49pm

I've got a better message for John Lewis

http://youtu.be/TRbp0ZIehk0

(Edit: How the F@*! do you get YouTube vids to embed?! I've copied & pasted the code, but it comes up blank)

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keefus | 13 November 2011 - 10:03pm

Like this!

.be

(just cut and paste the full page URL)

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Hannah | 13 November 2011 - 10:46pm

Thanks!

I was trying to use the 'embed' code.

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keefus | 13 November 2011 - 10:54pm

YouTube

Don't use the youtu.be short code - that's meant for Twitter, where characters are limited. The easiest way is just to copy the full URL from the address bar in your browser.

If you want to use the full embed code, click "share" then "embed", and copy the code that's displayed.

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Fraser Lewry | 13 November 2011 - 10:56pm

I usually steer clear of

I usually steer clear of these threads lest i annoy anyone with my opinionated ways - but I have to with this one.

I am no stranger to a bit of the old 'i have something in my eye, when did we last dust??' whilst watching TV, but this didn't have that effect on me at all! I get the twist & the clever filming but I cannot understand the outpouring of emotion over it on my twitter & facebook feeds! At the end of the day it is an ad for a department store is it not?!

This advert on the other hand is a lot better done and has the major plus of advertising something worthwhile;

new barnardos advert

i'll save my tears for this one i think

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seanioio | 13 November 2011 - 11:35pm

new barnardos advert

As someone who spent about 3 years in the care "system" in my younger days, can I just say that I thought this advert was very moving & powerful.

It put a tear in the eye & a lump in the throat of a grizzly old, cynical ex sailor.

Many thanks for posting it seanioio.

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jackthebiscuit | 14 November 2011 - 11:18am

My wife and I saw the 30 second

version of that last night just before we went to bed. One of those moments when we were ready to switch off the TV, stopped, sat back down again, watched, looked at each other to check for tears and difficult swallowing, smiled at each other, turned everything off, went upstairs, checked on the kids and stood for a couple of minutes longer than normal in their rooms looking down at them and counting our blessings.

That said, I don't save tears for anything any more. I gave up holding back the day my wife told me she was pregnant with our first child. I honestly think I'd make myself ill if I didn't let tears flow when something triggers that level of emotional response in me. So I welled up the first time I saw the John Lewis ad and I welled up last night when I saw the Barnardo's ad. In the long run it's less damaging mentally and less stressful than constantly trying to qualify how I feel about something because there was a deliberate attempt by someone who was paid to make me feel that way. It's tiring trying to be objective and analytical about people's motives all the time in order to control my emotional receptors to things put out. How f*cked up is that as a way of living and experiencing life, to not just respond to what's directly in front of you at face value but rather question its "validity"?

I cry at classical music I've bought, much of it by composers commissioned to do so. I cry at paintings, many of them painted by artists commissioned to do so. I cry at performances of actors paid to make me feel that way. So I cry at commissioned ads designed to remind me that, aside from selling John Lewis, Christmas is about family and I marvel at the unexpected twist in the ending that reflects values I hope to instil in my own kids: giving rather than receiving.

Why is that manipulation of my emotions inherently cynical by the people commissioned to create that ad? Why is there a need to assume that cold, detached and manipulative people are in charge of the process rather than people who care about their work and are attempting to be unique and creative by working to a brief that is about producing a product that resonates with its audience and which displays a positive value system based on a perceived mood of the nation? A lot of thought has gone into that ad to create a sense of goodwill. I'd argue it does nothing to get me to walk into a John Lewis store but it does everything to remind me that John Lewis is an employee owned cooperative that prides itself on quality of service and product. I think that's a good thing.

I'm sure the people who made the Barnardo's ad also got paid and were equally conscious of the desired effect they wanted to instil in viewers as were the people who made the John Lewis ad. Both still want my money and my tears.

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Ahh_Bisto | 16 November 2011 - 1:48pm

The John Lewis ad

It's no different to X-Factor. Tugging the viewers' heartstrings in order to attract their custom. Why let the guard of cynicism down for John Lewis, but not for X-Factor?

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Spartacus Mills | 16 November 2011 - 5:20pm

I'll start off

by saying that I see a significant difference between the John Lewis ad and X-Factor. I'm astonished if people can't.

I'll keep it brief and limit it to one point. On a very basic level there's no individual being treated like a disposable commodity in the John Lewis ad in the name of "entertainment", no one with dreams being pissed on by self-obsessed celebrities with god complexes, no vulnerable people being paraded on screen as valid targets for scorn and ridicule because their lack of social skills or their lack of self-awareness are considered fair game and a valid form of entertainment. The John Lewis ad doesn't mock anyone.

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Ahh_Bisto | 16 November 2011 - 7:39pm

Well, because it's an advert.

It's meant to try and attract custom because it's an advert. The X Factor may be trying to attract you to vote for one or other of the contestants, but in theory it's a talent show programme to entertain you. So, the cynicism is obviously for something that is pretending it's something other than what it is....

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jockblue | 16 November 2011 - 10:38pm

That is wonderful

Actually I quite like the JL ad - part of its charm is that it's clearly bonkers. The "dog's head in the box" theory makes as much sense as anything else; for one thing, as he goes into their bedroom it's broad daylight - that's one hell of a lie-in when it's only a few days after the Winter solstice.

But the Barnardos advert is fantastic - a great idea, brilliantly executed. Made me watch it again just to spot the actor changeovers.

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Malc | 16 November 2011 - 1:39pm

Actually the Ad itself is not good - Just think about it.....

So, this six year old is one of the few that doesn't believe in Santa as he bought his parents a pressie. Oh, and how did he find a time slot to secretly wrap the pressie? He must of used scissors and stuff to get that present so neatly wrapped - mmm a six year old left to wrap pressies with scissors unsupervised - call the social services. Finally, where the hell did he get the spondies to buy such a big pressie and the ostentatious wrapping? Must be a banker's brat. Ergo: THEY DON"T DESERVE THAT PRESSIE!!

:-)

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BigJimBob | 14 November 2011 - 11:56am

All excellent points BigJimBob

and they seem to add weight to the "The dog's head is in the box" theory.
1. The kid has no money. What can he afford? A gift which costs nothing but his time and exhibits his creativity.
2. It's a small step from using a scissors unsupervised to working with a knife and hacksaw.
3. The family in an ad this syrupy should have a cute dog sniffing around their ankles. Where is it? This is a classic example of "the puppy that didn't yap"...

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STD | 14 November 2011 - 5:15pm

Bang on STD

...and maybe the dog is wrapped up like a mummy in one of those long and soft bog-rolls they love to run around with.

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BigJimBob | 14 November 2011 - 5:27pm

Its throat slashed

with a sharpened store loyalty card

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FakeGeordie | 14 November 2011 - 6:04pm

All I know for sure

is that the FPO will want a copy of the song now it has been steamrollered into mediocrity and has reached an audience of more than five million.

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jimmyshoes01 | 14 November 2011 - 12:14pm

A better cover version of the song

of course, would be this one:

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kidpresentable | 14 November 2011 - 1:57pm

A sweet little twist

...but nothing special, and not a patch on the 'just like a woman' campaign of a couple of years ago (same goes for the music). Not entirely certain why it would reduce grown adults to tears (and I speak as someone who scored an 'I'm pleased it's dark in the cinema' on the First-Ten-Minutes-Of-Up scale), but it's clearly done it's job.

On the other hand, it's certainly sold me a Gruffalo costume - they look fantastic.

On a more serious note, McLongWhiteClud's few words at the top of this thread made me shut the office door while I demisted the glasses. I hope your boy gets his wish - and you get yours - one day.

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Uncle Monty | 14 November 2011 - 3:01pm

Thanks.

Appreciate the thought, Uncle Monty. The kid's ok. He just needs a bit of extra care and attention. As long he gets that, all is cool. And he's change his mind about the Christmas wish. He told his mum that he wants a "noisy guitar like Daddy's ".
That's my boy.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 15 November 2011 - 4:02am

Yeah you can see what its TRYING to do..

.. but you'd have to be a real sop to swallow that. Doesn't strike you as genuine in any way, either in the editing, the shooting, or the 'performance'. Far too contrived and pushing the obvious buttons.

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Marky | 14 November 2011 - 6:00pm

Interesting twist

but ghastly child.

Can someone explain: where would a child that young get the money - or even have the wherewithal in the first place - to buy a gift that big?

Didn't move me at all. The whole ad felt like an eternity. I don't like having my buttons pressed.

Don't like the cover version either.

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Five-Centres | 14 November 2011 - 6:25pm

Isn't it obvious what's in the box?

(Video is Adam Buxton's 15 Step/Seven Video)

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drakeygirl | 14 November 2011 - 7:08pm

Parodytastic

I'd like to see ones where he finds his parents:

a) at it
or
b) putting together a bike, his main present from 'Santa'.

Luckily only (b) has happened to me thus far.

I loved the ad, even though I didn't like the cover version much, and I too had a tear in my eye.

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kb | 14 November 2011 - 7:47pm

A proud curmudgeon writes

I unfollowed Charlie Brooker on Twitter for his foul rants about this ad, the overgrown, Xbox-bothering twonk. Yes, yes, yes, the cover's not much cop, the parents would be traipsing around exhausted in their John Lewis dressing gowns long before the sun came streaming into their bedroom (on December 25th the sun, at best, dribbles apologetically) as the younger son rattled around with the box of his big present on his head, and NO child has ever done what the older child does on awaking on Christmas Day.
But it's beautifully made, it's funny & the kid is fantastic. The cockles of this dedicated Yule avoider's heart are still being warmed by it, even on the fifth viewing tonight.
Mind you, the little bugger's made a rubbish job of wrapping his present after making such a song and dance about giving it.

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Graham Johns | 16 November 2011 - 10:24am

I still love Charlie.

But he does get a bee in his bonnet about stuff. The lizard jokes were really funny, but he pushed those for too long as well.

I don't really mind if he hates this ad. I like it. As with anything, if someone else hates something I like, I couldn't generally give a rusty fuck. It doesn't dampen my liking.

I showed it to Mrs B the other night. We both had something in our eye, even though I knew what was coming. Sure, I'm being emotionally manipulated. But as long as I know I am, so what?

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Bob | 16 November 2011 - 10:36am

Just awful...

... in every way, apart from it's well made (big deal).

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Formbyman | 16 November 2011 - 10:43am

Who watched ads though?

I'm utterly gobsmacked by the fuss it has caused (mainly on Twitter and the internet rather than the real world admittedly. Oh, and the Guardian which is OBSESSED with it), because who watches TV ads now?

I've seen this one owing to this thread and links on Twitter, but not on actually telly. Doesn't everyone just forward the ads through nowadays?

(I don't have Sky Plus before you ask, just Freeview).

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JoLean | 16 November 2011 - 11:08am

Interesting...

I think a lot of advertising agencies try to make ads they think will be shared on YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter. Concepts are deliberately pitched to go 'viral' now, as this is far more likely to reach people.

If I was in charge of a firm's TV advertising budget, I'd go for the "Sponsors of" bit at the beginning and end of each show and ad break. I skip through ads, and look out for the logo of the company that's sponsoring the show so I know when to let go of the fast forward button. So in an hour show with three breaks, that's eight times I'll see that product name.

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drakeygirl | 16 November 2011 - 11:52am

Viral

Yes, the agency have done an amazing job at making this ad go viral. Very admiring of it.

And of course, those so incensed by it have helped enormously too.

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JoLean | 16 November 2011 - 12:06pm

Hmm so you'd make it as intrusive as possible then

"Wow.. There's Tom Cruise throwing branded KFC chicken wings at a CGI Ronald McDonald!"

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Marky | 16 November 2011 - 1:25pm

I'm the same

Not Sky+, but I've got a Digibox with a hard-disc recorder which works the same way. If the 118 man appears, it's time to stop fast-forwarding as The Simpsons are back on!

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kidpresentable | 16 November 2011 - 1:37pm

But has anyone gone to John Lewis

as a result of seeing this advert? The shop isn't mentioned until the end, and the ad assumes that you know what they sell.

Perhaps it creates some awareness of the shops, but that must be hard to assess. I was in John Lewis last week, because I know that they sell the kind of domestic goods I was looking for (storage boxes). This advert didn't tell me about that.

I've only known a couple of people in advertising, but I've had the impression from them that this kind of general brand promotion is an act of faith by both the client and the agency. It just seems like a good idea, but you never really know if it's worked in increasing sales, unlike say adverts that tell you that Bacardi is £15 a litre at a supermarket.

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Melville | 16 November 2011 - 2:36pm

Very funny FakeGeordie

Very funny.

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Spartacus Mills | 16 November 2011 - 5:23pm

Sorry to rattle your cage

It was the sheer perversity of it I liked.

Don't like upsetting people by accident so sorry for that

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FakeGeordie | 17 November 2011 - 9:47pm

Cage unrattled

Seriously, I wasn't irked. I was joining in the joke! I just think I got the wrong joke.

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Spartacus Mills | 17 November 2011 - 9:50pm

At the risk of disappearing

in a big a puff of circular referencing and introspection - cheers for that

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FakeGeordie | 17 November 2011 - 9:54pm

Just a bit of a thought

it's a great add because we're all talking about it, job done. The cover version is the true meaning of "meh", but here's the thing, well I wonder if this will increase sales of The Smiths box set. I've had them on my iPod all day today because I wanted to hear PPPLMGWIW and I haven't listened to them for a while and I've dropped hint the size of that kids present that I want the remastered cd's for Christmas. Mozza and Marr up to a bit of product placement?

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Dave Amitri | 17 November 2011 - 1:06am

You are not wrong there.

I can also see Janet of X-Factor singing PPPLMGWIW.

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kb | 17 November 2011 - 10:16am

X-Factor

It'd suit Janet, but the X-Factor contestants are part of a rival M&S ad campaign, so I can't see it happening.

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Spartacus Mills | 17 November 2011 - 6:16pm

True

But she could trump them with a lovely version of this:


(Half A Person)

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kb | 18 November 2011 - 11:32am

Dog's head?

Cynical, manipulative ad that's totally unrealistic. What kid does that these days? If ever?

And apparently it's a dog's head in the box....

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Dark_Matter | 17 November 2011 - 4:29pm

Top tip

If you dislike the John Lewis Christmas ad, try watching the Littlewood's Christmas ad instead. Ghastly.

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Spartacus Mills | 17 November 2011 - 6:18pm
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