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Bobs Best?
Posted by Mr Drayton on 23 February 2012 - 4:20pm.
I run a classic album night at The Tyneside Cinema in Newcastle upon Tyne. I'm compiling choices for the next season and it's been pointed out, quite rightfully and vociferously, that so far, I have ignored Bob Dylan. I know lots of Bob songs, but have never sat and listened to a Bob album from beginning to end. It's not something I'm proud of, but there you go. My mate Rob, who is an expert in the field tells me Highway 61 is the daddy.
Is he wrong, is he right? What's the one classic Bob long player?
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Blood on the Tracks.
So, yes, he's wrong. As, doubtless, I will be by the time the next post appears.
Highway 61
Bob is depthless, and the range of albums intimidating, but if you really have to narrow it down to one album then Rob is right, and it should be Highway 61 Revisited.
So many great albums :
Blonde on Blonde is superb - but a double. With Highway 61 and Bringing it all back home it forms part of the holy trinity of mid-60's albums.
But you don't want to play them - you want to play "Blood on the tracks" - commonly referred to as "the divorce album" it is unstintingly superb, angry, and cathartic.
Don't fancy that ? then Desire, where we discover that Dylan is a superb spinner of tales ( he had some help from Jacques Levy though).
Not pure enough Dylan for you ? Then perhaps sir would like to try Street Legal, or New Morning, or.....or perhap sir is looking for something in more of a folky vein ? The eponymous Dylan may be ideal then - a cheeky mixture of standards and self penned, or The Freewheelin', or Blowin' in the wind - chock full of classics of protest, rage and love.
I would suggest not choosing Self Portrait. Some smart folk have rebranded it as a superb album of seminal americana. But they are wrong. It is a crock.
Got Self Portrait
for a fiver in Fopp. Well worth it, apart from the execrable The Boxer.
I would go for BOTT, with BOB a very close second.
Some great stuff on Self Portrait
and it's unfairly maligned in my view.
Many people blindly jumped on the Greil Marcus "What is this shit?" bandwagon following the album's release in 1970.
But I'm with Marc Bolan who wrote a letter to Melody Maker defending Self Portrait and citing the track Belle Isle as the most beautiful love song he'd ever heard.
I was unaware of the review
when I first encountered Self Portrait, but by a bizzare coincidence my reaction was the same.
Didn't stop me buying it twice...three times....
The Self Portrait Out takes (!) that make up Dylan are somewhat better - at least it's a single album.
The self-titled "Dylan" album
was Columbia's revenge for Bob's brief defection to Asylum (US) and Island (UK) in 1974 for the Planet Waves and Before The Flood albums.
When Dylan returned to the Columbia fold the following year, the Dylan album was quietly deleted and although it did later appear briefly on CD in Europe, it's now the only album in Bob's entire canon which remains deleted.
It's aged fairly well, but I don't feel it stands up too well against Self Portrait
BoB
Blonde on Blonde
If it was me
I'd also go for Blood on the Tracks.
And of the 'Holy Trinity', my preference would always be for Bringing It All Back Home. Highway 61 is ace but I always wince when I hear the comedy whistle on the title track.
But but
that's one of my favourite bits!
There's an earlier take without the whistle, and it sounds empty without it.
For me...
Blood On The Tracks for a night like this. I love Highway, but I think there is more to discuss and think about on Blood.
I also absolutely love the Bob Dylan Xmas LP, but I think that's a bit niche.
Think outside the box..........
.....Highway, Blonde, Tracks, yadda, yadda, yadda!
'Another Side of Bob Dylan'.
That'll get your group thinking.
1. It includes the only song that Dylan regrets writing ('Ballad In Plain D.').
2. It includes songs that the uninitiated have probably heard by others ('It Ain't Me Babe', 'All I Really Want To Do', 'My Back Pages') and a comedy song which is funny! ('Motorpsycho Nitemare').
3. No one will join in with pre-conceptions and arguments already made (unlike 'Blood On The Tracks' etc).
4. It's not political.
5. He's aged 23, he recorded it in one session, and he's sexy on the cover.
That is
a quite excellent shout.
Yes
What's the story with Ballad In Plain D?
Not aware he didn't like it.
a whining nasty personal attack on Suze's sister
but he does do it rahter well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballad_in_Plain_D
I once loved a girl, her skin it was bronze.
With the innocence of a lamb, she was gentle like a fawn.
I courted her proudly but now she is gone,
Gone as the season she's taken.
Through young summer's breeze, I stole her away
From her mother and sister, though close did they stay.
Each one of them suffering from the failures of their day,
With strings of guilt they tried hard to guide us.
Of the two sisters, I loved the young.
With sensitive instincts, she was the creative one.
The constant scapegoat, she was easily undone
By the jealousy of others around her.
For her parasite sister, I had no respect,
Bound by her boredom, her pride to protect.
Countless visions of the other she'd reflect
As a crutch for her scenes and her society.
Myself, for what I did, I cannot be excused,
The changes I was going through can't even be used,
For the lies that I told her in hopes not to lose
The could-be dream-lover of my lifetime.
With unknown consciousness, I possessed in my grip
A magnificent mantelpiece, though its heart being chipped,
Noticing not that I'd already slipped
To a sin of love's false security.
From silhouetted anger to manufactured peace,
Answers of emptiness, voice vacancies,
Till the tombstones of damage read me no questions but, "Please,
What's wrong and what's exactly the matter?"
And so it did happen like it could have been foreseen,
The timeless explosion of fantasy's dream.
At the peak of the night, the king and the queen
Tumbled all down into pieces.
"The tragic figure!" her sister did shout,
"Leave her alone, God damn you, get out!"
And I in my armor, turning about
And nailing her to the ruins of her pettiness.
Beneath a bare light bulb the plaster did pound
Her sister and I in a screaming battleground.
And she in between, the victim of sound,
Soon shattered as a child 'neath her shadows.
All is gone, all is gone, admit it, take flight.
I gagged twice, doubled, tears blinding my sight.
My mind it was mangled, I ran into the night
Leaving all of love's ashes behind me.
The wind knocks my window, the room it is wet.
The words to say I'm sorry, I haven't found yet.
I think of her often and hope whoever she's met
Will be fully aware of how precious she is.
Ah, my friends from the prison, they ask unto me,
"How good, how good does it feel to be free?"
And I answer them most mysteriously,
"Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?"
66 Live Album
Both sides (assuming live albums are permitted).
Gives you everything you need. The acoustic first half, the Band-backed second half, the reverence, the rage and "play f**king loud". It's got everything that makes Dylan great, in a single package and with barely a duff moment.
It also ends on an absolute high, with that majestic version of "Like a Rolling Stone", the opening crash of which still gives me goosebumps on the thousandth listen.
Also, and this is important, all the songs are under 10 minutes long.
If you go with Blonde on Blonde (his best album), you'll close on Sad Eyed Lady..., which is knocking on for 12 minutes long and not a great way to end an event like this one, as great a song as it is. Ditto Highway... and Desolation Row.
Blood on the Tracks is a good shout too, but if you're going to go for 70s Dylan I'd throw a bit of a curveball and serve up Street Legal, which is ace and has had less exposure.
Sad Eyed Lady of what?
You know, it occurs to me that I must have owned Blonde on Blonde for the best part of 25 years now and I don't think I've ever once heard Sad Eyed Lady..., despite having listened to the other three sides so many times I'm surprised I haven't worn a hole in the record.
Go and listen to it
it's a wonderful piece of music.
Hmmmm....
If you're upbraiding me for not giving the full song title, then please note the dots (he also doesn't have an album called "Highway").
If you've seriously never listened to Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands then I'm very, very jealous of you.
No upbraiding here
I couldn't be arsed to type it all out either.
And I seriously have never listened to it. I just went on Spotify and skipped through the first few minutes or so and it was entirely unfamiliar. Oh well, maybe one day etc…
Jealousy in full effect then
It may actually be my favourite Dylan song.
You've probably missed it because it spans the whole of side 4 on vinyl, so it's kind of out on its own.
Well worth the 11 minutes and change if you get some free time.
Blood on the tracks...
got to be.
Desire
Like Blood on the Tracks. Only better. With Hurricane.
Hurricane
may (I say only may) be the best first track of any Dylan album.
Jokerman
Infidels not his greatest (although still excellent), but the first track must be in my top 5 Bob songs.
Jokerman is not the best track
on Infidels - that award surel;y must go to 'Don't fall apart on me tonight' which is one of my favourite Dylan songs. For complete albums I would go for Desire and Time out of mind which has the exquisite Not Dark yet.
Apart from that...
... bloody violin.
Alternatively
the presence of Scarlet Rivera across the album is one of the things that make it so special.
But then again, worse
because it's got bloody Mozambique.
Aside from it being incurably lame how out of touch could the one time "voice of a generation" be?
At a time when the country was being ravaged by a civil war he was singing "there's lots of pretty girls in Mozambique… magic in a magical land".
I wish that for just one time you could stand in my shoes
You would see it had to be Blood on the Tracks (or possibly Modern Times!)
I can still remember
the wide eyed jagged thrill that went through me the first time I heard the first organ notes on 'Like a Rolling Stone'. It was a sensation I had rarely felt about music before and only fleetingly since.
On that basis I'd go for Highway 61.
Great minds
That's close to the comment I was going to make.
Another vote for Highway 61.
Christmas in the Heart
of course.
is an excellent album
to play in December
Thankyou.
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.
Pick any one from five
Blonde on Blonde - Best overall sound
Blood On The Tracks - Best lyrics
John Wesley Harding - Most stark
Highway 61 Revisited - A real departure
Desire - Just a great album
What about
One of the religious trilogy? I'd go for Slow Train Coming and you'll get an idea where aul" Bob was then. If not it's got to be Blood On The Tracks.
I don't disagree
on the quality of the albums, much derided as they may be, but I wouldn't suggest them as a first Bob Dylan album. A lot of the later albums - from the last 20 years - are also excellent, but again I wouldn't start there.
Nobody's mentioned...
...Nashville Skyline. Just saying....
Be a
short night
But a fun one
Nashville Skyline is the album where the non-Bobcats say "who's that singing ?" and "I thought you said this was a Bob Dylan album, he's all creaky and wheezy isn't he ?"
Love it myself
particularly 'Tell me that it isn't true.' He should have added 'I forgot more' and 'Take me as I am' from Self Portrait. These would have fitted in beautifully.
Serious answer: Live 1966.
You heard the man - Play it fookin' loud!
And when you've made your purchase,
curse the fact that Positively 4th Street ain't on any of them.
You've got a lotta nerve...
... throwing that into the equation.
Ditto
Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window.
Except...
...on the first Greatest Hits, 1967, which might not be a bad place to start.
We're into Partridge territory
"My favourite Bob Dylan album has to be... the Best of Bob Dylan"
Mind you, if you were only taking one BD album to a desert island, be honest, it'd be The Sony Essential set or similar. But turn up at a classic albums night with something like that and you'd be deafened by hoots and snorts of derision.
Maybe so...
...but I would argue, if I found myself at a classic albums night that a Greatest Hits album that was issued as far back as 1967 is a classic album by definition, precisely because it contains Positively 4th Street. Either that or I would loftily claim that the only worthwhile Dylan album is 'The Hot New Sound of Hibbing, Minnesota' from 1959, and raise a sarcastic eyebrow if anybody dared admit that they'd never heard of it.
Agreed. Ditto
The Byrds' Greatest Hits (1967), Elvis's Sun Collection, The Harder They Come, those Motown Chartbusters albums, Tighten Up...
.....C86? (runs to hide behind sofa)
Since they contain
otherwise unattainable at the time (you can get biograph now which is like a super greatest hits) songs and also re-recorded versions (with Happy Traum !) then there's a good argument for buying & liking Bob's greatest hits.
Pedantic point.....
.....not sure that the original UK version of 'Greatest Hits' did contain 'Positively 4th Street'.
Well...
...mine did.
Bryan Ferry
does a spectacularly magnificent reworking of '4th St' on 'Dylanesque'.
Similar
to Dylan's reworking of 'Idiot Wind' on 'Blood on the Tapes.'
That was
Greatest Hits Volume 2
As Wezz also points out, it wasn't on
Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits at all, it was on More Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits (the blue double album) and was subsequently left off the CD reissue. Whoever made that call should be taken out and mocked.
That original 1967 UK 'Greatest Hits'.....
....could have been so much better.
Four songs each from 'Blonde on Blonde' and 'Back Home', dear, dear.
Imagine if CBS had opened the set with 'Mixed Up Confusion', included both 'Positively 4th Street' and 'Can You Please Crawl' 45s, and finished it all off with the 'If You Gotta Go, Go Now' Dutch single.
And the Dutch
If You Gotta, Go… is special because?
Please share your knowledge of such Dylan esoterica.
It was pressed on red wax
Fancy...
A bit like that Edam cheese then
It hadn't been released in the UK......
.....at the time.
Wonderful though all 12 songs are, many of them had already appeared on 45 and on EP and on LP in this country.
Three words:
Shot Of Love.
Three more words:
Don't be daft.
;-)
Two more
He's right.
one
dont be daft
for late period
I suggest time out of mind
lovesick, not dark yet,the gravelly voice working to great effect with the songs and the presence of the recording, his references to the imminence of death,the proximity to his heart disease and late hit for others in make you feel my love
all good fodder for conversation
Bringing It All Back Home
My favourite.
Side 1 is impossibly exciting.
Side 2 somehow surpasses it without using the crazed blues band on Side 1.
"Another Side..." is a great shout too. I used to love "Ballad in Plain D" when I were a nipper.
If all else fails, "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" - a more intriguing collection, with some nice curios on it.
Yes to Bringing it All Back Home
At last, couldn't believe I got this far down the thread before someone mentioned this one.
I have a soft spot for .....
"Oh Mercy "
The Man in the long black coat is great. And it has the added advantage that you can read about the making of the album in the Chronicles book.
I also recommend "Desire" too
Blimey
I thought I'd get a few suggestions, but this is overwhelming. Thankyou one and all, it's very much appreciated, I will use your comments in a pre-amble, once I've worked out which one to play - I am going to listening to a lot of Bob over the coming weeks.
Listen to them all in sequence, without breaks
It's the only way to be sure.
Dylan bests.....
He has been at it for so long it's weird that "Blood on" is 37 yrs old and for me probably my favourite and now strangely enhanced by recently discovering Blood on the Tapes.
And yet, I will always remember Paul Gambaccini on Radio 1 introducing Like a R Stone as " simply the greatest rock & roll record ever made" and reminding me that, yes, he was probably right (with some competition from Strawberry Fields).So that takes us back to the first suggestion.
Problem is there is so much great stuff and the last 3 albums have all been excellent, in their, and his, own way
With you on...
...the last 3 albums, especially Love and Theft. I keep coming back to that one and finding nuances. As someone said above, he's been doing this for damn near 50 years. The first album was released in March 1962 and I can't think of anyone else who can still turn out a No 1 album - Together Through Life - 47 years later. God knows It hasn't all been good but the best of it has been stunning.
it can only be 1 flawless gem . . .
In the end, the plague touched us all.
Great opening line to accompanying album sleeve notes for BOT.
And, yes Blood on the Tapes well worthwhile hunting down too, I guess it's all on line these days, and can also be assembled from Biograph, and GBS.
I just love....
Tell tale signs, typical of Dylan; the out takes and test takes are better than the stuff put out in the first place!
Highway 16 Revisited
especially the classic track, Salad of a Bin Man
All kinds of criteria
Highway has the advantage of being just an intoxicating smash of Bobness - fury, wordplay, majesty and lyricism beyond par ('the sweet pretty things are in bed now, of course") Blonde on Blonde is like that but even more so. Bringing it All Back Home has wit tenderness and poetry. Blood is the album that even proclaimed non-Bob people can handle - sound has not dated and his singing is at its most accessible. The songs are pretty immediate too. Freewheelin is folkie Bob I think at his peak while 40 years later Love and Theft has a contemporary but timeless sound that makes it a joy to listen to and has in Mississippi a song to rival any of his previous epic masterpieces. Singing is weirdly very listenable. But it's not better than Time Out Of Mind with the amazing Cold Irons Bound but I think it's too difficult a record for uninitiated. The above mentioned Live 1966 is a really good way of meeting Bob in his extraordinary range. Compelling stuff but not for the faint of heart.
Sorry but Rainy Day Women is
Sorry but Rainy Day Women is my least favourite Dylan song of all and, starting off BoB, ruins the mental image I have of the album and somehow prevents me from playing it much....
Agreed, Tell Tale Signs is an under rated classic, suffering as it does from the umbrella Bootleg Series label rather than being perceived of as new work . But how many other "old "albums could include gems like Red River Shore and the "Mississippi"s ??
I said aw c'mon now...
Apart from one mention in passing, seriously, does nobody think that Freewheelin' is the best Dylan record? Really? It's just a lovely record. His singing is wonderful, his guitar picking never better, and the songs are superb - deep, silly, sombre, surreal, playful, bittersweet and very funny.
It certainly gets my vote as the most consistent Dylan LP.
I wouldn't pay any attention to the supporters of the Self Portrait LP...that's inverse snobbery. I bought it from Fopp about 10 years ago, and frankly could not believe my ears. I tried to imagine myself as a Dylan fan listening to this in real time, upon release. Ten seconds into "Let It Be Me" I would have known that the 60's had just dropped dead in front of me. It's an air-conditioned nightmare, that LP.
Go with Freewheelin', really, it's just the best. IMHO, naturally.
I can see what you mean about Freewheelin'
and Don't Think Twice just has to be one of the best songs ever written.
But...
As an album, I just find it too samey. Too much acoustic guitar. You really miss the release of the electric band coming in on something like Bringing It All Back Home (pretty much a 50/50 contrast between acoustic and electric Bob, which makes it just about perfect).
Don't know if it's his best
but I have a very soft and moist spot for Street Legal.
Well, you're just nuts
Said with affection though the moist remark worries me. The guy wants a record as some of kind intro - Street Legal ain't it. They'd have to get through No Time to Think. Weirdly, though, I too could not stop playing it when I first heard it. I actually felt that the opening lines of Dirge were applicable to SL: I hate myself for loving you and the weakness that it shows.
Fopp at Leicester Square.....
.....is advertising one such night and that pub is doing 'Blood On The Tracks'. Too predictable, I say, though don't do anything daft like 'Self Portrait' or 'Empire Burlesque'.