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Bobs Best?

Mr Drayton's picture

I run a classic album night at The Tyneside Cinema in Newcastle upon Tyne. I'm compiling choices for the next season and it's been pointed out, quite rightfully and vociferously, that so far, I have ignored Bob Dylan. I know lots of Bob songs, but have never sat and listened to a Bob album from beginning to end. It's not something I'm proud of, but there you go. My mate Rob, who is an expert in the field tells me Highway 61 is the daddy.

Is he wrong, is he right? What's the one classic Bob long player?

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Blood on the Tracks.

So, yes, he's wrong. As, doubtless, I will be by the time the next post appears.

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skirky | 23 February 2012 - 4:23pm

Highway 61

Bob is depthless, and the range of albums intimidating, but if you really have to narrow it down to one album then Rob is right, and it should be Highway 61 Revisited.

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Gatz | 23 February 2012 - 4:26pm

So many great albums :

Blonde on Blonde is superb - but a double. With Highway 61 and Bringing it all back home it forms part of the holy trinity of mid-60's albums.

But you don't want to play them - you want to play "Blood on the tracks" - commonly referred to as "the divorce album" it is unstintingly superb, angry, and cathartic.

Don't fancy that ? then Desire, where we discover that Dylan is a superb spinner of tales ( he had some help from Jacques Levy though).

Not pure enough Dylan for you ? Then perhaps sir would like to try Street Legal, or New Morning, or.....or perhap sir is looking for something in more of a folky vein ? The eponymous Dylan may be ideal then - a cheeky mixture of standards and self penned, or The Freewheelin', or Blowin' in the wind - chock full of classics of protest, rage and love.

I would suggest not choosing Self Portrait. Some smart folk have rebranded it as a superb album of seminal americana. But they are wrong. It is a crock.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 4:33pm

Got Self Portrait

for a fiver in Fopp. Well worth it, apart from the execrable The Boxer.
I would go for BOTT, with BOB a very close second.

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ianess | 23 February 2012 - 7:25pm

Some great stuff on Self Portrait

and it's unfairly maligned in my view.

Many people blindly jumped on the Greil Marcus "What is this shit?" bandwagon following the album's release in 1970.

But I'm with Marc Bolan who wrote a letter to Melody Maker defending Self Portrait and citing the track Belle Isle as the most beautiful love song he'd ever heard.

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mojoworking | 24 February 2012 - 12:12am

I was unaware of the review

when I first encountered Self Portrait, but by a bizzare coincidence my reaction was the same.

Didn't stop me buying it twice...three times....

The Self Portrait Out takes (!) that make up Dylan are somewhat better - at least it's a single album.

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Slick | 24 February 2012 - 2:18pm

The self-titled "Dylan" album

was Columbia's revenge for Bob's brief defection to Asylum (US) and Island (UK) in 1974 for the Planet Waves and Before The Flood albums.

When Dylan returned to the Columbia fold the following year, the Dylan album was quietly deleted and although it did later appear briefly on CD in Europe, it's now the only album in Bob's entire canon which remains deleted.

It's aged fairly well, but I don't feel it stands up too well against Self Portrait

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mojoworking | 24 February 2012 - 11:39pm

BoB

Blonde on Blonde

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dai | 23 February 2012 - 4:35pm

If it was me

I'd also go for Blood on the Tracks.

And of the 'Holy Trinity', my preference would always be for Bringing It All Back Home. Highway 61 is ace but I always wince when I hear the comedy whistle on the title track.

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Paul Waring | 23 February 2012 - 4:35pm

But but

that's one of my favourite bits!

There's an earlier take without the whistle, and it sounds empty without it.

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Stephen Merrick | 24 February 2012 - 11:48pm

For me...

Blood On The Tracks for a night like this. I love Highway, but I think there is more to discuss and think about on Blood.

I also absolutely love the Bob Dylan Xmas LP, but I think that's a bit niche.

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JoLean | 23 February 2012 - 4:37pm

Think outside the box..........

.....Highway, Blonde, Tracks, yadda, yadda, yadda!

'Another Side of Bob Dylan'.
That'll get your group thinking.

1. It includes the only song that Dylan regrets writing ('Ballad In Plain D.').

2. It includes songs that the uninitiated have probably heard by others ('It Ain't Me Babe', 'All I Really Want To Do', 'My Back Pages') and a comedy song which is funny! ('Motorpsycho Nitemare').

3. No one will join in with pre-conceptions and arguments already made (unlike 'Blood On The Tracks' etc).

4. It's not political.

5. He's aged 23, he recorded it in one session, and he's sexy on the cover.

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ranger | 23 February 2012 - 4:54pm

That is

a quite excellent shout.

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eminentdan1978 | 23 February 2012 - 4:56pm

Yes

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JoLean | 23 February 2012 - 4:59pm

What's the story with Ballad In Plain D?

Not aware he didn't like it.

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Mr Fade | 23 February 2012 - 9:50pm

a whining nasty personal attack on Suze's sister

but he does do it rahter well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballad_in_Plain_D

I once loved a girl, her skin it was bronze.
With the innocence of a lamb, she was gentle like a fawn.
I courted her proudly but now she is gone,
Gone as the season she's taken.

Through young summer's breeze, I stole her away
From her mother and sister, though close did they stay.
Each one of them suffering from the failures of their day,
With strings of guilt they tried hard to guide us.

Of the two sisters, I loved the young.
With sensitive instincts, she was the creative one.
The constant scapegoat, she was easily undone
By the jealousy of others around her.

For her parasite sister, I had no respect,
Bound by her boredom, her pride to protect.
Countless visions of the other she'd reflect
As a crutch for her scenes and her society.

Myself, for what I did, I cannot be excused,
The changes I was going through can't even be used,
For the lies that I told her in hopes not to lose
The could-be dream-lover of my lifetime.

With unknown consciousness, I possessed in my grip
A magnificent mantelpiece, though its heart being chipped,
Noticing not that I'd already slipped
To a sin of love's false security.

From silhouetted anger to manufactured peace,
Answers of emptiness, voice vacancies,
Till the tombstones of damage read me no questions but, "Please,
What's wrong and what's exactly the matter?"

And so it did happen like it could have been foreseen,
The timeless explosion of fantasy's dream.
At the peak of the night, the king and the queen
Tumbled all down into pieces.

"The tragic figure!" her sister did shout,
"Leave her alone, God damn you, get out!"
And I in my armor, turning about
And nailing her to the ruins of her pettiness.

Beneath a bare light bulb the plaster did pound
Her sister and I in a screaming battleground.
And she in between, the victim of sound,
Soon shattered as a child 'neath her shadows.

All is gone, all is gone, admit it, take flight.
I gagged twice, doubled, tears blinding my sight.
My mind it was mangled, I ran into the night
Leaving all of love's ashes behind me.

The wind knocks my window, the room it is wet.
The words to say I'm sorry, I haven't found yet.
I think of her often and hope whoever she's met
Will be fully aware of how precious she is.

Ah, my friends from the prison, they ask unto me,
"How good, how good does it feel to be free?"
And I answer them most mysteriously,
"Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?"

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Junior Wells | 23 February 2012 - 10:28pm

66 Live Album

Both sides (assuming live albums are permitted).

Gives you everything you need. The acoustic first half, the Band-backed second half, the reverence, the rage and "play f**king loud". It's got everything that makes Dylan great, in a single package and with barely a duff moment.

It also ends on an absolute high, with that majestic version of "Like a Rolling Stone", the opening crash of which still gives me goosebumps on the thousandth listen.

Also, and this is important, all the songs are under 10 minutes long.

If you go with Blonde on Blonde (his best album), you'll close on Sad Eyed Lady..., which is knocking on for 12 minutes long and not a great way to end an event like this one, as great a song as it is. Ditto Highway... and Desolation Row.

Blood on the Tracks is a good shout too, but if you're going to go for 70s Dylan I'd throw a bit of a curveball and serve up Street Legal, which is ace and has had less exposure.

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eminentdan1978 | 23 February 2012 - 4:56pm

Sad Eyed Lady of what?

If you go with Blonde on Blonde (his best album), you'll close on Sad Eyed Lady..., which is knocking on for 12 minutes long and not a great way to end an event like this one, as great a song as it is.

You know, it occurs to me that I must have owned Blonde on Blonde for the best part of 25 years now and I don't think I've ever once heard Sad Eyed Lady..., despite having listened to the other three sides so many times I'm surprised I haven't worn a hole in the record.

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yorkio | 23 February 2012 - 5:20pm

Go and listen to it

it's a wonderful piece of music.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 5:27pm

Hmmmm....

If you're upbraiding me for not giving the full song title, then please note the dots (he also doesn't have an album called "Highway").

If you've seriously never listened to Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands then I'm very, very jealous of you.

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eminentdan1978 | 23 February 2012 - 5:30pm

No upbraiding here

I couldn't be arsed to type it all out either.

And I seriously have never listened to it. I just went on Spotify and skipped through the first few minutes or so and it was entirely unfamiliar. Oh well, maybe one day etc…

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yorkio | 23 February 2012 - 6:51pm

Jealousy in full effect then

It may actually be my favourite Dylan song.

You've probably missed it because it spans the whole of side 4 on vinyl, so it's kind of out on its own.

Well worth the 11 minutes and change if you get some free time.

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eminentdan1978 | 23 February 2012 - 7:04pm

Blood on the tracks...

got to be.

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Doug B | 23 February 2012 - 5:01pm

Desire

Like Blood on the Tracks. Only better. With Hurricane.

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Six Dog | 23 February 2012 - 5:03pm

Hurricane

may (I say only may) be the best first track of any Dylan album.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 5:19pm

Jokerman

Infidels not his greatest (although still excellent), but the first track must be in my top 5 Bob songs.

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James Helford | 23 February 2012 - 9:03pm

Jokerman is not the best track

on Infidels - that award surel;y must go to 'Don't fall apart on me tonight' which is one of my favourite Dylan songs. For complete albums I would go for Desire and Time out of mind which has the exquisite Not Dark yet.

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Steve Turner | 23 February 2012 - 10:23pm

Apart from that...

... bloody violin.

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Formbyman | 23 February 2012 - 6:39pm

Alternatively

the presence of Scarlet Rivera across the album is one of the things that make it so special.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 7:03pm

But then again, worse

because it's got bloody Mozambique.

Aside from it being incurably lame how out of touch could the one time "voice of a generation" be?

At a time when the country was being ravaged by a civil war he was singing "there's lots of pretty girls in Mozambique… magic in a magical land".

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Carl Parker | 23 February 2012 - 7:36pm

I wish that for just one time you could stand in my shoes

You would see it had to be Blood on the Tracks (or possibly Modern Times!)

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daff | 23 February 2012 - 5:25pm

I can still remember

the wide eyed jagged thrill that went through me the first time I heard the first organ notes on 'Like a Rolling Stone'. It was a sensation I had rarely felt about music before and only fleetingly since.
On that basis I'd go for Highway 61.

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PaddyH | 23 February 2012 - 5:36pm

Great minds

That's close to the comment I was going to make.

Another vote for Highway 61.

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Carl Parker | 23 February 2012 - 7:37pm

Christmas in the Heart

of course.

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Moose the Mooche | 23 February 2012 - 5:41pm

is an excellent album

to play in December

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 6:29pm

Thankyou.

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.

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Mr Drayton | 23 February 2012 - 6:24pm

Pick any one from five

Blonde on Blonde - Best overall sound
Blood On The Tracks - Best lyrics
John Wesley Harding - Most stark
Highway 61 Revisited - A real departure
Desire - Just a great album

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wezz | 23 February 2012 - 6:32pm

What about

One of the religious trilogy? I'd go for Slow Train Coming and you'll get an idea where aul" Bob was then. If not it's got to be Blood On The Tracks.

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Jock1955 | 23 February 2012 - 6:35pm

I don't disagree

on the quality of the albums, much derided as they may be, but I wouldn't suggest them as a first Bob Dylan album. A lot of the later albums - from the last 20 years - are also excellent, but again I wouldn't start there.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 7:05pm

Nobody's mentioned...

...Nashville Skyline. Just saying....

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mikethep | 23 February 2012 - 7:13pm

Be a

short night

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ianess | 23 February 2012 - 10:41pm

But a fun one

Nashville Skyline is the album where the non-Bobcats say "who's that singing ?" and "I thought you said this was a Bob Dylan album, he's all creaky and wheezy isn't he ?"

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Slick | 24 February 2012 - 2:49am

Love it myself

particularly 'Tell me that it isn't true.' He should have added 'I forgot more' and 'Take me as I am' from Self Portrait. These would have fitted in beautifully.

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ianess | 24 February 2012 - 6:23pm

Serious answer: Live 1966.

You heard the man - Play it fookin' loud!

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Moose the Mooche | 23 February 2012 - 7:17pm

And when you've made your purchase,

curse the fact that Positively 4th Street ain't on any of them.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 23 February 2012 - 7:49pm

You've got a lotta nerve...

... throwing that into the equation.

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Formbyman | 23 February 2012 - 7:50pm

Ditto

Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window.

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Moose the Mooche | 23 February 2012 - 8:41pm

Except...

...on the first Greatest Hits, 1967, which might not be a bad place to start.

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mikethep | 23 February 2012 - 8:46pm

We're into Partridge territory

"My favourite Bob Dylan album has to be... the Best of Bob Dylan"

Mind you, if you were only taking one BD album to a desert island, be honest, it'd be The Sony Essential set or similar. But turn up at a classic albums night with something like that and you'd be deafened by hoots and snorts of derision.

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Moose the Mooche | 23 February 2012 - 8:52pm

Maybe so...

...but I would argue, if I found myself at a classic albums night that a Greatest Hits album that was issued as far back as 1967 is a classic album by definition, precisely because it contains Positively 4th Street. Either that or I would loftily claim that the only worthwhile Dylan album is 'The Hot New Sound of Hibbing, Minnesota' from 1959, and raise a sarcastic eyebrow if anybody dared admit that they'd never heard of it.

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mikethep | 23 February 2012 - 9:07pm

Agreed. Ditto

The Byrds' Greatest Hits (1967), Elvis's Sun Collection, The Harder They Come, those Motown Chartbusters albums, Tighten Up...

.....C86? (runs to hide behind sofa)

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Moose the Mooche | 24 February 2012 - 10:08am

Since they contain

otherwise unattainable at the time (you can get biograph now which is like a super greatest hits) songs and also re-recorded versions (with Happy Traum !) then there's a good argument for buying & liking Bob's greatest hits.

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Slick | 23 February 2012 - 9:17pm

Pedantic point.....

.....not sure that the original UK version of 'Greatest Hits' did contain 'Positively 4th Street'.

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ranger | 23 February 2012 - 9:40pm

Well...

...mine did.

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mikethep | 23 February 2012 - 9:44pm

Bryan Ferry

does a spectacularly magnificent reworking of '4th St' on 'Dylanesque'.

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ianess | 23 February 2012 - 10:38pm

Similar

to Dylan's reworking of 'Idiot Wind' on 'Blood on the Tapes.'

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ianess | 23 February 2012 - 10:40pm

That was

Greatest Hits Volume 2

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wezz | 23 February 2012 - 11:37pm

As Wezz also points out, it wasn't on

Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits at all, it was on More Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits (the blue double album) and was subsequently left off the CD reissue. Whoever made that call should be taken out and mocked.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 24 February 2012 - 3:34pm

That original 1967 UK 'Greatest Hits'.....

....could have been so much better.
Four songs each from 'Blonde on Blonde' and 'Back Home', dear, dear.

Imagine if CBS had opened the set with 'Mixed Up Confusion', included both 'Positively 4th Street' and 'Can You Please Crawl' 45s, and finished it all off with the 'If You Gotta Go, Go Now' Dutch single.

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ranger | 24 February 2012 - 7:11pm

And the Dutch

If You Gotta, Go… is special because?

Please share your knowledge of such Dylan esoterica.

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Carl Parker | 24 February 2012 - 8:35pm

It was pressed on red wax

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Moose the Mooche | 24 February 2012 - 9:17pm

Fancy...

A bit like that Edam cheese then

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stevegell | 25 February 2012 - 7:21pm

It hadn't been released in the UK......

.....at the time.
Wonderful though all 12 songs are, many of them had already appeared on 45 and on EP and on LP in this country.

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ranger | 24 February 2012 - 9:18pm

Three words:

Shot Of Love.

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Mr Fade | 23 February 2012 - 9:54pm

Three more words:

Don't be daft.

;-)

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Paul Waring | 23 February 2012 - 10:16pm

Two more

He's right.

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David Hepworth | 23 February 2012 - 10:18pm

one

dont be daft

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Bingham | 24 February 2012 - 2:43am

for late period

I suggest time out of mind

lovesick, not dark yet,the gravelly voice working to great effect with the songs and the presence of the recording, his references to the imminence of death,the proximity to his heart disease and late hit for others in make you feel my love

all good fodder for conversation

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Junior Wells | 24 February 2012 - 4:39am

Bringing It All Back Home

My favourite.
Side 1 is impossibly exciting.
Side 2 somehow surpasses it without using the crazed blues band on Side 1.

"Another Side..." is a great shout too. I used to love "Ballad in Plain D" when I were a nipper.

If all else fails, "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" - a more intriguing collection, with some nice curios on it.

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man.of.soup | 24 February 2012 - 1:24pm

Yes to Bringing it All Back Home

At last, couldn't believe I got this far down the thread before someone mentioned this one.

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LastRoseofSummer | 24 February 2012 - 2:46pm

I have a soft spot for .....

"Oh Mercy "

The Man in the long black coat is great. And it has the added advantage that you can read about the making of the album in the Chronicles book.

I also recommend "Desire" too

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dbelle4500 | 24 February 2012 - 1:40pm

Blimey

I thought I'd get a few suggestions, but this is overwhelming. Thankyou one and all, it's very much appreciated, I will use your comments in a pre-amble, once I've worked out which one to play - I am going to listening to a lot of Bob over the coming weeks.

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Mr Drayton | 24 February 2012 - 1:59pm

Listen to them all in sequence, without breaks

It's the only way to be sure.

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eminentdan1978 | 24 February 2012 - 2:36pm

Dylan bests.....

He has been at it for so long it's weird that "Blood on" is 37 yrs old and for me probably my favourite and now strangely enhanced by recently discovering Blood on the Tapes.

And yet, I will always remember Paul Gambaccini on Radio 1 introducing Like a R Stone as " simply the greatest rock & roll record ever made" and reminding me that, yes, he was probably right (with some competition from Strawberry Fields).So that takes us back to the first suggestion.

Problem is there is so much great stuff and the last 3 albums have all been excellent, in their, and his, own way

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brianbotch | 24 February 2012 - 3:43pm

With you on...

...the last 3 albums, especially Love and Theft. I keep coming back to that one and finding nuances. As someone said above, he's been doing this for damn near 50 years. The first album was released in March 1962 and I can't think of anyone else who can still turn out a No 1 album - Together Through Life - 47 years later. God knows It hasn't all been good but the best of it has been stunning.

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Gavin Adam | 24 February 2012 - 11:54pm

it can only be 1 flawless gem . . .

In the end, the plague touched us all.
Great opening line to accompanying album sleeve notes for BOT.
And, yes Blood on the Tapes well worthwhile hunting down too, I guess it's all on line these days, and can also be assembled from Biograph, and GBS.

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Billy_Bollox | 24 February 2012 - 7:48pm

I just love....

Tell tale signs, typical of Dylan; the out takes and test takes are better than the stuff put out in the first place!

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stevegell | 25 February 2012 - 5:59pm

Highway 16 Revisited

especially the classic track, Salad of a Bin Man

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Glenbervie | 25 February 2012 - 8:24pm

All kinds of criteria

Highway has the advantage of being just an intoxicating smash of Bobness - fury, wordplay, majesty and lyricism beyond par ('the sweet pretty things are in bed now, of course") Blonde on Blonde is like that but even more so. Bringing it All Back Home has wit tenderness and poetry. Blood is the album that even proclaimed non-Bob people can handle - sound has not dated and his singing is at its most accessible. The songs are pretty immediate too. Freewheelin is folkie Bob I think at his peak while 40 years later Love and Theft has a contemporary but timeless sound that makes it a joy to listen to and has in Mississippi a song to rival any of his previous epic masterpieces. Singing is weirdly very listenable. But it's not better than Time Out Of Mind with the amazing Cold Irons Bound but I think it's too difficult a record for uninitiated. The above mentioned Live 1966 is a really good way of meeting Bob in his extraordinary range. Compelling stuff but not for the faint of heart.

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everygoodboydes... | 28 February 2012 - 12:06am

Sorry but Rainy Day Women is

Sorry but Rainy Day Women is my least favourite Dylan song of all and, starting off BoB, ruins the mental image I have of the album and somehow prevents me from playing it much....

Agreed, Tell Tale Signs is an under rated classic, suffering as it does from the umbrella Bootleg Series label rather than being perceived of as new work . But how many other "old "albums could include gems like Red River Shore and the "Mississippi"s ??

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brianbotch | 28 February 2012 - 11:46pm

I said aw c'mon now...

Apart from one mention in passing, seriously, does nobody think that Freewheelin' is the best Dylan record? Really? It's just a lovely record. His singing is wonderful, his guitar picking never better, and the songs are superb - deep, silly, sombre, surreal, playful, bittersweet and very funny.

It certainly gets my vote as the most consistent Dylan LP.

I wouldn't pay any attention to the supporters of the Self Portrait LP...that's inverse snobbery. I bought it from Fopp about 10 years ago, and frankly could not believe my ears. I tried to imagine myself as a Dylan fan listening to this in real time, upon release. Ten seconds into "Let It Be Me" I would have known that the 60's had just dropped dead in front of me. It's an air-conditioned nightmare, that LP.

Go with Freewheelin', really, it's just the best. IMHO, naturally.

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BigE | 29 February 2012 - 12:22am

I can see what you mean about Freewheelin'

and Don't Think Twice just has to be one of the best songs ever written.

But...

As an album, I just find it too samey. Too much acoustic guitar. You really miss the release of the electric band coming in on something like Bringing It All Back Home (pretty much a 50/50 contrast between acoustic and electric Bob, which makes it just about perfect).

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Stephen Merrick | 3 March 2012 - 6:51pm

Don't know if it's his best

but I have a very soft and moist spot for Street Legal.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 29 February 2012 - 12:28am

Well, you're just nuts

Said with affection though the moist remark worries me. The guy wants a record as some of kind intro - Street Legal ain't it. They'd have to get through No Time to Think. Weirdly, though, I too could not stop playing it when I first heard it. I actually felt that the opening lines of Dirge were applicable to SL: I hate myself for loving you and the weakness that it shows.

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everygoodboydes... | 1 March 2012 - 10:24am

Fopp at Leicester Square.....

.....is advertising one such night and that pub is doing 'Blood On The Tracks'. Too predictable, I say, though don't do anything daft like 'Self Portrait' or 'Empire Burlesque'.

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ranger | 3 March 2012 - 6:56pm
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