We've talked about this before.

But I agree - there's enough turnover of visitors to make any topic valid for reappraisal.

and I agree with your sentiments.

...as one who recently received a sneering put-down.

... is he any good live?

I hope that most comments about the earlier progeny of commonly featuring areas of discussion are more along the lines of pointing out earlier thoughts that can be added to the newer strand, rather than to detract from the reincarnation thereof. There are, actually, not really all that many areas to discuss, hence the repetitive nature of best guitar solo and best 3 albums by any particular artist etc etc. As a relatively long term blogger of just over the year, the once or twice I have pointed out a related dicussion is to prevent the foolishness of me repeating myself, together with, obviously, like us all, my wishing to alert others to earlier nuggets, of my self perceived wisdoms.
Maybe.

I see no harm in posting a link if the same or similar topic has been discussed before, but this forum isn't just for the top 20 long-standing posters, it's for anyone as far as I'm aware, so topics can & should be revisited at reasonable intervals.

Very well put but I'd like to make sure that we know there's a distinction between a sniffy smart-arsed reply just a smart-arsed reply as much of the humour found in this forum thrives on the latter.

I agree with you about this blog. I love the various ideas and questions posed here but i have noticed that there are a few snidey types who are quick to let other bloggers that they dont belong here such as the person who posted the thread about the Real Madrid footballer last week. He recieved a couple of smartass replies about football having no place here etc. This nastiness puts me off contributing as i have also noticed that these same bloggers seem to be frustrated media types who couldnt cut the mustard in that world and use this site to make those of us who arent as smart{so they think]feel as bit small.

Nice one.

Someone a while ago asked for recommendations for jazz albums for beginners. Now that subject had already been discused several times before, so the obvious response is "We've discussed this recently, here's the link".

What's wrong with that? Makes perfect sense to me.

Who is we? If someone asks a question about anything then let other people answer their query. Just because you have discussed it doesnt mean we all have so would it not be better to say nothing and ignore the post than post curt replies

Why say more?

I must say, I'm with this spirit of inclusiveness all the way! There's enough negativity in day to day offline life as it is - this is almost always a very nice forum to be a part of, although I'd guess that most longstanding contributors may not quite realise how daunting it can be for a (not necessarily 'careworn media type') newcomer to feel included. I don't speak from personal experience, though I'm aware of one or two others who feel a tad overwhelmed by the erudition on view from 'the regulars' herein. Me, I'm enough of an 'ex-media type' not to feel small next to 'voices of experience', for want of a better expression, but if we were all standing around at a cocktail do I'm sure most of us would want to make sure wallflowers/new arrivals/people who don't seem to know too many others (yet) are included in the conversation.

It's more difficult online but... well, we should all - me included - try to be welcoming. I hope that doesn't sound sanctimonious - it's not meant to. I'm just recalling my first day at my current place of work, about five years back, and I can remember well to this day those who made welcoming gestures, however small, and those who made snidey remarks/no effort (thankfully by far the smaller number). These things make a lasting impression!

Robert Fripp often described King Crimson as a 'way of doing things' rather than a band; I think Heppo and Ellen have created, in the good ship Word and all its multifarious multi-media platforms, a 'way of being' or a 'place to be' rather than a magazine. It's a great achievement!

(And, for newcomers, whose first mention of King Crimson on this forum that may have been - fear not: there'll be many more along soon. There always are! I'm beginning to think it's probably the one exemption to the "we've already discussed this" dogma!)

...of an index.

Colin H I read your post with interest as I love football and even though you didnt take it bad it put me off repling to your post.These kind of posts are not exactly bulling but they do sometimes contain an element" wow arent I a clever bastard"element to them, which can be off putting to some like me who isnt to computer savvy or whose spelling is crap. Anyway I take comfort in the fact that there is always someone out there who is smarter than them usually Frazer Lewry! Ps if you have sky plus there is a brillant programme on anytme about the rivalry between Barca and Real

no one seems to use any of those acronyms that are the norm on most forums? I may occasionally chuckle audibly but I have yet to be seperated from my posterior through uncontrolled jocularity.

What a blessed relief. I've felt like I've been trapped in a never ending episode of friends or something.

was brought up by me not realising it had already been covered. If someone had said 'we've already done that you tosser' on here I would have laughed my tits off. However all I got was a gentle admonishment which was rather disappointing.

..pwned.

Any good suggestions?
Will swap for swahili klezmer.

*snarkily tip toes away...*

...but the answers* to all your likely future posts are:

Richard Thompson
All landfill indie or Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Dylan, followed by Morrissey and then John Martyn
Reni
Bruce Springsteen at Hammi Odeon in 1978
Someone with a beard
Andrew Collins, followed by Rod Liddle
The Wire
Spotify, followed by Twitter
"Trudging slowly over wet sand to the place where your clothes were stolen"
The Road

etc etc

*not mine

We are all so old on here repetition is fine.

And, whilst we're at it, what is the word?

start a thread I think has already been discussed

..one better than "owned" (O-P geddit?)
"Ver" was just a cockniefied way to write "the"

I don't think there is any reason to be unpleasant to each other. I have done a few "we did this before" messages but usually where it was a long answer which I couldn't be arsed to retype - always nicely though, I think.

Annoys me more than it should. I know that it's meant to be a compliment but - who made you the freakin' judge and jury, eh?

Overall this community is polite, respectful and funny. It sticks out like a sore thumb when someone is not one or all of these things.

... but both Retropath2 and I are still awaiting your recommendations for best Austrian Rap CDs to purchase ... Jeez!!

Is it easy to master?

have we not discussed this post already?

Any thoughts?

I don't think any of this really matters that much. People have posted 'Next!' in my posts, I've posted 'Next!' on others. I've had people inform me that a topic has been covered already and I've done the same. I don't think there's any arrogance or malice involved in any of this, so why don't we lighten up and not take it so seriously?

Wonderful, thank you! Your post supports the idea of this forum being an intellectual (=involving thought and reason) forum of the rock world, where always some humanity is included in both thoughts and reasons.

The temptation to good humouredly respond "oh fackorrff, willya" is tempered by my appreciation that some would take me seriously and also by the stick you took over World Peace Day.

(Great Quintessence track on the Slomo coverdisc.)

Often the best way is to ignore and move on. There's always something new coming along in a moment. Next!

That'd be 'Pearl & Bird', would it, Retro? There indeed many Great Quintessence Tracks in the world, all under-known, I suspect... And by the end of the year, hopefully, there will be many more when Hux Records' two double-disc 1969 and 1971 live Quintessence albums are brought blissfully into the sunlight... Roll on that day....

And there's me thinking it was just a cheapskate throwaway line at the expense of the poster above me...
You are so right, Colin, severely underated and mocked for their all too easy to hare krishnacise. I love the few tracks I have, aquired to assess the mystique they offered to a teenage boy rifling thru record racks as he listened to "Just another band from L.A." and "Henry the Human Fly". Is there a decent "Best of" you can commend?

...bears a passing comparison to the scenery in cartoons: Eventually it repeats itself. Like Wile E. Coyote, as some malfunctioning piece of Acme hardware sends him plummeting over the edge of the same overhanging cliff, long term contributors will eventually find themselves covering familiar ground. I can’t post here anymore without an overriding sense of déjà vu, that speaks of encroaching senility. Those who don’t learn from their browser history are doomed to repeat themselves.

My heart sinks when a new blogger starts a topic only to be met with a brusque ‘we’ve done that already.’ The unwritten subtext is that, lurking somewhere in the archives, is a 100+ post thread that they should have read first before adding their tuppence worth at the bottom, on the off-chance that some eagle-eyed reader might deign to glance over it.

My thinking is that unless said topic was raised within the last few months, there is no harm in it appearing in a new guise on the front page, where it is easily accessible and where new bloggers can form part of an ongoing live discussion, rather than adding a postscript to a thread that has run its course and is functionally deceased. We have discussed the greatest guitar solos many times in the past. We will no doubt do so again.

This blog being a democracy means that no one is under any obligation to respond to, or even to read a thread if they do not wish to. Furthermore if a new thread is surplus to requirements it will remain unanswered. A few days later it will be sliding down page three faster than a sub-par Morrissey single during its second week on the chart.

I have moderated many online communities. In most cases it’s a wonderful way of accessing your fellow internet users’ inner child - Sadly, not the wide-eyed innocent who views the world with a Van Morrison-esque wonder, but instead the turbulent two year old, who plants himself in the middle of one of the aisles in Sainsbury’s, and screams at the top of his voice because he’s been told that he can’t have a Milky Bar.

This blog is different in that people are generally respectful towards each other and manage to avoid making outright attacks. A bigger problem are those lazy online interactions – those curt, poorly-phrased responses that serve no real no purpose and would probably be better left unsaid .

Over time internet users gain a sense of ownership of the online communities where they post. This can manifest in strangely negative ways – surly treatment towards newcomers; giving the impression that there is an arbitrary set of rules that must be obeyed if you are to fit in.

In truth, the opinions and posts of someone who has been active on this board for 1 year and 28 weeks are worth no more than those written by the person who joined this morning. New members with their new ideas and new insights are the lifeblood of any online community that wishes to avoid stagnation. They shouldn’t be made to feel that what they write is constrained by a history in which they took no part.

http://forkedgroove.blogspot.com/2008/06/true-originals-part-2-sothic-yo...

Blogger, contributor and starter of this thread, his last post, unfortunately left this parish last night. He is missed.