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Billy Bremner v Billy Bremner

marsonator's picture

I was just wondering who people's favorite Billy Bremner is.

Personally I prefer the musical one and songs such as Girl's Talk although I do appreciate that the footballer captained his club and country and won many medals.

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marsonator | 23 October 2011 - 2:35am

Always loved Billy's playing

He takes the second solo here from 2:22 and it's a blinder. Note Dave Edmunds' head whip round to give Billy a nod of approval/amazement for that audacious little run at 2:38.

Some lovely bass lines from Nick Lowe too and a heart-warming stuff-up from Robert Plant at the end.

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mojoworking | 23 October 2011 - 6:00am

Lovely

Rockpile were immense.

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Iainso | 23 October 2011 - 8:33am

Chipshop

I'm pretty sure Billy also played the solo on "There's a guy works down the chipshop swears he's Elvis" which is stonking bit of guitar playing

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Vince Black | 23 October 2011 - 11:25am

Terrific performance

Both of them on fire there. And Terry Williams. What a great drummer.

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Twangothan | 24 October 2011 - 6:54am

And what about

Dave Edmunds' impossibly rare and desirable dot neck blonde 335 there? I once read an interview with him where he claimed not to know exactly how significant that guitar is.

Bet he doesn't use it onstage these days.

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mojoworking | 24 October 2011 - 7:13am

Unless he's got more than one similar guitar...

then the last time I saw Dave, it wasn't even in a case.

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stimpy | 24 October 2011 - 12:03pm

The footballer

for me. An absolute terrier. If only he hadn't missed from a few feet against Brazil.

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Johan | 23 October 2011 - 6:04am

Neil Young v Neil Young

Manchester City's legendary inside forward or Canada's musical maverick?

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Johan | 23 October 2011 - 6:08am

Keith Jarrett v Keith Jarrett

Welsh International point-scoring record making rugby union centre, or Jo Whiley's nemesis?

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Vince Black | 23 October 2011 - 10:57am

Eh?

We're judging between a top guitar player from one of the best live bands ever and a defender from "dirty Leeds". No contest.

I hadn't appreciated fully how much BB contributed to Rockpile until I (finally) saw the 1978/9 "Born Fighters" documentary about them last week. If any other fans have never seen it, then seek it out and download it.

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JohnW | 23 October 2011 - 6:46am

He...

... was a midfielder - and the captain of Leeds United which won the League in 1974 and reached the European Cup Final in 1975. He also captained Scotland and played in the World Cup Finals in 1974. He was skillful, a tenacious tackler and could run all day. On the downside, he was a bit of a cunt (allegedly) but he, arguably, achieved a higher level of success in his chosen career than his namesake has in music - who is a brilliant guitarist nevertheless. It's a draw!

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Formbyman | 23 October 2011 - 8:15am

Allegedly

I don't think there's any need to use the word when speaking about the dead.
I do like the use of the word tenacious though, a bit like Leedsboy's use of committed.

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JohnW | 23 October 2011 - 11:15am

With much respect to the guitar toting

axeman of Rockpile. There really is only one Billy Bremner. He was skilful, committed, loyal, a leader and never, ever shirked his responsibility. His ability is often overlooked because of his commitment but the balance was absolutely perfect for the role of ball winning midfielder because he would get the ball and then do something with it.

I could go on all day about Billy Bremner.

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Leedsboy | 23 October 2011 - 11:26am

Not football

I hate football and I love Rockpile, so no contest.

But can anyone supply the verses to this?

Bremner's Volunteers.

So give us more of the Hampden Road
The sound is music to our ears
We will fight and win
we will never give is
We're Bremner's Volunteers.

(From the 1974 World Cup LP - written by Martin & Coulter).

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Jorrox | 23 October 2011 - 11:21am

good v evil

I loved the good Billy Bremner's version of Elvis Costello's 'Shatterproof'. The other one I remember as a particularly dirty player in a particularly dirty team. If not as dirty as Johnny Giles, he was certainly on a par with Norman Hunter or Jackie Charlton.

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wezz | 23 October 2011 - 11:23am

Particularly dirty?

Not really. Watch the 1970 cup final to see dirty Leeds being kicked around a football pitch. Football was different then. It wasn't just Leeds. But it seems to have become an accepted perception that they were the only ones.

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Leedsboy | 23 October 2011 - 6:34pm

football was dirtier then

There is a good deal of truth in what you say. A player could commit at least 2 very bad tackles before they were eventually booked. Something akin to attempted murder was needed for a sending off. A professional centre-half (as they were called in those days) of my acquaintance once told me that he always gave the opposing centre-forward "a gentle tap behind the knee" early in every game to "let him know he was there".

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wezz | 23 October 2011 - 6:57pm

I'm reading a book on Clough & Revie currently

They were born within a few miles of each other. The details on tackles and sheer viciousness that seemed acceptable in the 50's and 60's is quite shocking compared to todays football. Clough's career ending injury was nasty and to make things worse, he was accused of 'coddling' before being carried off for 18 months of rehabilitation. No booking or sending of for the player who fouled him either.

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Leedsboy | 23 October 2011 - 7:04pm

Last time I saw Billy

he was walking along Hammersmith Broadway with a rolled-up copy of The Sun sticking out of his jacket pocket, Rab C. Nesbitt style.

You can take the boy out of Aberdeen, etc.

He started out playing in Lulu's Luvvers, you know.

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mojoworking | 24 October 2011 - 2:55am

Good and bad on both sides

Billy Bremner missed a sitter for Scotland against Brazil in The World Cup .They didn't qualify for the second round. Bad for the Scots. He played for Leeds too.
Billy Bremner missed a sitter for Scotland against Brazil in The World Cup.They didn't qualify for the second round. Good.For the English.
Scotland were the first team to not qualify on Goal difference and to quote Only a World Cup excuse "Scotland found a new way to lose."

Billy Bremner was in Rockpile-Good.
Billy Bremner made one of the worst singles i've ever heard. "Loud Music in Cars" Truly awful.

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Sour Crout | 23 October 2011 - 5:33pm

Always worth seeing again...

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Formbyman | 23 October 2011 - 6:46pm

No no no no no!

Here's the best one backing some up and coming singer-songwriter - Billy extreme right, in Neil Innes' Fatso.

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soapdodger | 25 October 2011 - 10:54am

Michael Jackson vs Michael Jackson vs Michael Jackson

Former controller of BBC2, or presenter of "The Beer Hunter", or squeaky-voiced body-dismorphic prince of pop?

You decide.

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Moose the Mooche | 25 October 2011 - 11:35am

Personally, I'd rather rely on

General Sir Michael Jackson, until recently, the head of the British Army.

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stimpy | 25 October 2011 - 11:54am

Or

Michael Jackson who played for PNE.

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Sour Crout | 31 October 2011 - 8:32pm
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