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Bert Jansch RIP - Sadly - it's official

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Sad news

An amazing, influential musician.

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Mac45 | 5 October 2011 - 1:14pm

Terrible news

I suppose this puts the kibosh on the mooted Gerry Rafferty collaboration.

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Spartacus Mills | 5 October 2011 - 1:23pm

wikipedia

That should be on their respective wikipedia sites if it is "true".

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Kjell | 5 October 2011 - 3:32pm

It isn't true

It was an in-joke - I'm very sorry.

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Spartacus Mills | 5 October 2011 - 3:36pm

yes

And I was referring to the hobby of inserting innocent little lies into wikipedia articles of recently passed famous people, and watch this being printed in papers as fact.

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Kjell | 5 October 2011 - 5:15pm

Gerry Rafferty is dead?

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ganglesprocket | 5 October 2011 - 1:25pm

Gerry passed

Jan this year

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Gooner1050 | 5 October 2011 - 1:26pm

(It's an in joke, I'm afraid)

We all know Gerry's dead. When he died, for some reason his death was reported in multiple threads on here, all saying the same thing. Not sure how it started, but it became de rigeur to express surprise at any mention of Gerry's sad demise, and to shoehorn references to Gerry into any half-relevant thread so that another poster could do the 'Who knew?' post.

It's not big.
It's not clever.
But it makes me giggle every time it happens.

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Paul Waring | 5 October 2011 - 3:01pm

And now I know too

I did wonder Paul - thanks for letting me in!

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Gooner1050 | 5 October 2011 - 3:58pm

I'm touched by your faith

There have been many other reports of this sad news on this site but I'm amazed that the time that it's considered "official" is when it appears on the BBC site. I don't know about others but I stopped believeing what I read in their news pages long ago, not due to any intention to mislead but as a result of the miriad of errors due to sloppy journalism and poor research. I certainly wouldn't put it past them to have used the Word forum as the main source of their story (I don't think they have though!).

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JohnW | 5 October 2011 - 1:35pm

Well, considering where I work...

...they sort of did...

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MarkHagen | 5 October 2011 - 2:00pm

Sad to hear this

and my thoughts are with Mark Ellen who may have mentioned Pentangle once or twice...a podcast.

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DogFacedBoy | 5 October 2011 - 3:27pm

One of my faves

a good man gone

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Bingham | 5 October 2011 - 3:39pm

I've never heard that before.

And it's beautiful.

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 5 October 2011 - 6:58pm

I was fortunate enough to meet him one time...

when he did a session on London's GLR station. I was so struck by the disparity between the humility of the man and the incredible talent of the musician. It was amazing watching him play his acoustic up close... seldom have I seen someone make something fiendishly difficult seem so effortless.

RIP Bert.

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Patrick Crowther | 5 October 2011 - 5:44pm

Robert Peston

has revealed himself to be a (possibly unexpected) fan ---see this afternoon's conversation between him and Eddy Mair on R4's PM. ...I think a Pestoncast is in order. ..

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SpaceBoy | 5 October 2011 - 5:53pm

Bad news

I've been a fan since I first came across a Transatlantic sampler in about 1981. Only saw him play live a couple of times, though. The first was with Pentangle at Newcastle City Hall (1983) and a few weeks later playing solo at the Leadmill in Sheffield (the only gig I've been to that was divided into three sets - which seemed more geared towards him being able to go to the bar and get another drink - he was knocking back the beers).

My wife hates his voice, so I have tended to listen to him when I'm alone! But it's no guilty secret, I think he was one of the greats. A modest man, I don't think he ever made much money from his craft, but at least he has been incredibly influential.

I'm feeling quite glum now.

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Mr Sparks | 5 October 2011 - 6:19pm

Well, he sang..

but wasn't really a singer. My own singing voice is weak, so I'm claiming privileged knowledge here.

But what an astonishing guitarist and man to be looked up to for the past 40-plus years, sheer quality, just so sad to hear he's dead.

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Declan | 6 October 2011 - 12:24am

RIP indeed

This news really threw me - I loved his (and Pentangle's) music without ever reaching the point of obsession (like I do with some artists) or, to my shame, making an effort to see him live.

Until - I finally got my arse in gear and went to the Pentangle gig on 1 August in London. It was a spellbinding concert - Jansch played and sang like a dream - and I made mental note upon note to see them again as much as I could. Won't happen now, sadly.

He was brilliant.

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Specs_Beard | 5 October 2011 - 7:02pm

I've posted this before

but it's always worth watching.

Remember Bert this way.

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mojoworking | 5 October 2011 - 11:04pm

His key contribution

to the world.

Great song. Everything that was brilliant about Bert was crystallised in this one tune.

Sorely missed.

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Stephen Merrick | 5 October 2011 - 11:30pm

Oh yeah.

Bert was one of the most influential guitarists, ever. His percussive style was the basis of John Martyn's playing, and Jimmy Page cites him too. "Back in the day", your passport to the mic at any folk club was a run-through of Anji, and it was his version, not Davy Grahame's, that everyone learned.

It sometimes irks me that "Americana" gets so much respect and attention, where English contemporary folk gets so little. Pentangle was a truly great band (saw them in their heyday a couple of times) and Jansch was in every way as accomplished and important as better-known, and inevitably richer, U.S. artists.

"Black Swan" is a beautiful way to remember him.

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Burt Kocain | 6 October 2011 - 12:51am

Favourite Bert album, anyone?

For me it's Jack Orion from 1966. I think it was the last of his run of solo albums before he helped to form Pentangle, and there's a bleak simplicity to it that is missing from a lot of that band's more fiddly fruity stuff. It's also refreshingly out of kilter with just about everyone else in the music world at that time (apart from people like John Renbourn who ended up in Pentangle as well).

And great banjo playing on the opening track!

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Stephen Merrick | 6 October 2011 - 6:34am

Jack Orion

is probably Bert's most complete album in a run of great records, but my favourite will always be his self-titled debut from 1965.

It's probably not too much of an exaggeration to say that LP changed everything about how people played the guitar, not only in the folk world, but in rock too.

And where's Colin when we need him? I expect he's been called on by every radio station and magazine in the land today to provide a few paragraphs on Bert's life.

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mojoworking | 6 October 2011 - 2:03pm

Rosemary Lane

An understated gem, all solo, beautifully recorded and performed (at home between jaunts to the pub). Some of his finest trad arr stuff, a foray into Renbourn territory with a lute piece.
Plus it's got a great version of this (Reynardine) on it! I reckon this trumps even the great Fairport version on L&L.

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soapdodger | 6 October 2011 - 5:53pm

Christ alive.

I'm no folkie, and the music itself doesn't do a tremendous amount for me, but fucking hell - he knew his way around a guitar, didn't he?

As a not-bad-not-great guitar player, I just can't imagine the depth of understanding and sympathy with the instrument that he must have had. He must've seen the fingerboard completely differently to how I see it - it's like the difference between how I see a chessboard and how Garry Kasparov sees one. I am a pig-fingered, mitten-wearing child by comparison.

Absolutely awe-inspiring.

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Bob | 6 October 2011 - 7:03pm

Sad news

I saw Bert perform many times often in very small venues. Of the latter albums I think Crimson Moon is an overlooked gem so I thought I'd share this

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Ralph | 6 October 2011 - 10:13am
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