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Be honest. Is there anybody as good as John Fogerty?
Posted by David Hepworth on 10 March 2010 - 2:22pm.
It's lunchtime. Fraser's had chips. I had Thai. Sellers is doing soup. Meanwhile Creedence Clearwater Revival are playing on the Dansette and Mark Ellen and I are just batting back and forth on our favourite topic. To wit:
Is there, in the whole history of rock and roll, anyone who could both sing and play the guitar quite as well as John Fogerty?
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No
And no.
It's alright, Fraser
you've passed your probationary period :-)
Ah, Thai at lunch.
There's a really good place near Highbury Corner that does two courses for six quid. Although whenever I'm in the White Lion Street area, which I am every Friday, I always have to resist eating all of Euphorium Bakery.
Ewww
The Euphorium sucketh, in my opinion. Hugely overrated and overpriced. Average sweets, fussy savouries, lousy coffee. The bread's OK, but only just.
Wash your mouth out, Fraser!
I haven't actually eaten at the Euphorium for a few months, on account of being on a diet, but I really like their coffee and bread. And the cakes were great back when I was committed to swelling to the size of the Hindenberg before the age of 35.
Just goes to show, never can tell, horses for courses, takes all sorts, funny old world, meat/poison etc.
Rock, and indeed, roll
The man fronted the most timeless band ever created. Their music just doesn't date. Bruce Springsteen even likened him to Hank Williams.
The snob in me knows that it's ok to like Rockin' All Over The World because he wrote it.
An excuse to post my favourite CCR song
Not a bad songwriter either.
I love him
but are you drunk?
No
Why?
Only because
that's the sort of thing I'd post if I'd have a few at luncthime.
I'm incapbale of natural, unaided excitement and genuine affection. But you can probably tell.
Anyway, here's my favourite:
Here's my favourite,for what it's worth
it's been done before, but what the heck..
Can't knock...
My favourite version of 'I Put A Spell On You' and that's up against Screamin' Jay and Nina Simone. Good circles to be moving in.
He's still got it as well
Along with a suspiciously luxuriant head of hair.
Saw him at Glastonbury a couple of years ago and it was a real highlight of the weekend - all the hits, a different guitar for every tune, backing band tight as a gnat's chuff. In great voice and giving excellent guitar as well.
One of the true greats.
Too right
He made me forget the mud and the blood and the beer for an hour or so. Truly magnificent that night.
Fortunate Son
This has got it all
Ive just checked with science and the answer is
No.
He made some great records ...
... but his voice is pretty ordinary and grates after a while.
Now now
That's just silly.
No argument here...
...I've got The Long Road Home playing at the moment. Oldies, goldies and some cracking live tracks. Keep On Chooglin'? Just try to stop me!
I'd Be Of The Opinion
that this is one of the greatest records ever made
Because no one else has posted it
Probably my favourite Creedence song:
I must admit..
to a liking for this one in a Cats-in-the-Cradle way:
"Thai" at lunchtime?!?!
That's just decadent.
Whatever next.
This guy's pretty good, too.
This guy's very good
and made Monkees' albums great, too.
Sorry
But this chap has no hope of making it in the guitar god stakes. Everyone knows that when you solo way up the guitar neck like that, your supposed to wear a face that suggests someone is ripping your toenails out, very slowly. I like the first guy, though.
don't get it
CCR always sound to me like America's Status Quo
<-----slings, arrows etc. this way
You say that
Like it's a bad thing...
It's a tough call
because Fogerty is probably the most overlooked act of all time but the answer to the question is: Yes, albeit only just. Chuck Berry.
Fair point
Wrong, though.
I actually prefer CCR's version ...
... of 'Heard it Through the Grapevine'
A contender?
There are people as good as him, actually
But not many. Was listening to CCR today while out on the daily walk. The voice! The songs! The haircut!
I think my favourite is Down On The Corner. That sort of seemingly effortless simplicity is the work of only the truly greats.
I've only got the greatest hits
A few really good songs and a lot of dull stuff if you ask me. Which you didn't but I thought I'd tell you anyway.
Hmm.
"Is there, in the whole history of rock and roll, anyone who could both sing and play the guitar quite as well as John Fogerty?"
Yes.
Lots.
And some of them could do both at the same time.
Everyone seems to have forgotten
Andrew Ridgeley...
Could I suggest, as a contender...
My 88 year old mum's favourite guitarist, England's own..
Mr Albert Lee. Maybe not quite so strong in the vocals but a damn fine guitarist. Fond memories of Heads, Hands & Feet (with Chas on bass). Held back, perhaps, only by his own modesty.
It's late and I've been eating cheese
So I probably just imagined Prince.
You were dreaming
when you wrote this...
however he did highlight robert forster's rule
that after the third guitar change the guitarist is showing you his guitar collection
when i saw him , there must have been 30 lined up ,and as forster said on the podcast- they all sounded the same out of the PA.Mind you they were all bewdiful geetars.
Long As I Can See The Light
is a stone Classic..... and really heartfelt.
Love the man!
one the top ten Americans?
Sorry to get to this so late, but I remember some years ago having a late into the night drunken holiday 'discussion' with my friends in which I asserted that Fogerty was one of the top ten US pop artists ever, on the basis of his voice/guitar and songwriting. A master of the 'get in, say what you have to say and get out again' economical art of tock and roll. They all disagreed. I still think I was right....