BBC takes on iTunes

John_Peel.jpgBBC Worldwide has confirmed that it's to open up its musical archive, both TV and radio, for streaming and downloading. And yes, that includes The Old Grey Whistle Test and the Peel Sessions.

What are you going to buy?

Lots and lots...

..of Radiophonic Workshop stuff!

And probably lots of Peel Sessions.

I hope it's not just stuff that's been previously released...I'd love to get my hands on outtakes (New Order Peel Session outtakes!) and rare bits and pieces...

Rich

AgentGraves | 28 August 2008 - 3:13pm

Does that mean

all the stuff that they deemed to be uncommercial in the past? There is a great deal of stuff out there already; OGWT DVDs, I'm Sorry I Havn't A Clue CDs, John Peel sessions on CD.

If so, please can I have Star Terk and The Burkiss Way?

Beany | 28 August 2008 - 3:39pm

No Good Reason Why This Should Feature, But...

Around the New Years Eve going from 1989 into 1990, BBC2 ran a programme on the best music of the '80s. I may be romanticizing (as I'm prone to), but I seem to recall it being focussed in-part on some of the more leftfield '80s stuff. I'd have been around fifteen, and had spent the last couple of years starting to get into what I thought were the 'cool, Indie bands' like New Order, The Smiths, Pixies and The Cure. Anyway, I've no idea what this show was called but for me it was absolutely formative as it was the first time I'd seen New Order's 'Blue Monday' TOTP appearance; the first time I'd realized the brilliance of Aztec Camera and Orange Juice; first I'd ever heard of people like Bauhaus (doing 'Bela Lugosi's Dead') and The Damned, and definitely the first time I'd realized that it was OK to love Mike Oldfield's 'Moonlight Shadow' as much as I did 'Monkey Gone to Heaven'.

But if it turns out that benevolent BBC execs don't actually mine The Word's blog for inspiration, then I'll settle for as much Old Grey Whistle Test as I can get my hands on, for the sheer Proustian rush of it all.

Nick Orton | 28 August 2008 - 4:14pm

Yes!

I've finally found someone else who actually saw 'The Eighties'!

For me, the highlights of that programme were several segments of PSB's appearance on Whistle Test, one of their only recorded live performances at the time. To this day, I've only been able to find their version of 'Opportunities' (on the OGWT DVD) and the other 2 tracks they did (Later Tonight and Suburbia iirc) are still in the Beeb archives somewhere.

And as you say, NO's TOTP performance of Blue Monday was shambolically brilliant, and it did have rundowns of things like the most overrated bands in the 80s (the Boss was top I think) and also the best bands of the 80s (the Smiths were top, again, if my faulty memory recalls correctly).

Had it filling a 3 hour VHS which I lent to a girlfriend in 1992. Hey, we were going to be together forever, it's not like she was going to dump me the next week or something.

She dumped me the next week and kept the video.

Rich

AgentGraves | 29 August 2008 - 8:02am

And another one

I still have a copy on VHS. It was great - although some of the snippets were a bit short. Midnight struck in the middle of Dead Or Alive doing 'You Spin Me Right Round'.

Jason Carter | 29 August 2008 - 8:24am

So...

it wasn't just my imagination. Brilliant! I too had it on VHS for a while, but God knows what happened to that. We should form a pressure group aimed at getting it repeated on BBC4, on one of their themed weeks. Then again, do I really want solid proof of my habitual misremembering - because I couldn't swear to The Damned or Orange Juice being featured.

AgentGraves: my commiserations. I had a girlfriend do a similar thing to me in 1994 - mine was a misc music VHS which included the 1989 TOTP that had Stone Roses and Happy Mondays on it (and Electronic doing 'Getting Away With It). Must be a conspiracy!

Jason: that's VHS gold you have there, you jammy bugger!

Nick Orton | 30 August 2008 - 10:26pm

The Eighties

I've been obsessed with finding this for years! We had it on VHS and I used to watch it obsessively. I lent it to a mate who taped over it with Heartbeat.

I need to find it again… it was brilliant.

Nx

Nadia | 24 October 2008 - 2:43pm

Not much I think

I'm not a great fan of the live track and that seems to be mostly what's on offer.

With a few exceptions (Bruce Springsteen) they amount to inferior muddy sounding versions of tracks we love (essentially a geographical proposition ie you had to be there)

I might download live video though which is a whole other kettle of haddock. Not sure if that's envisaged by the Beeb.

Of course there's always the otherwise unavailable cover version.......

Gramsci | 28 August 2008 - 4:18pm

all the..

Peel sessions that I could only read about in the 80s! I lived in Ireland and couldn't pick up BBC so I was resigned to reading the NME about upcoming sessions! I would especially like the Julian Cope ones, think they were around the time that he still wrote great pop songs! (sorry if I've offended any fans of his later stuff!!)

humphreym | 28 August 2008 - 4:19pm

BRUUUCE!

I want the Springsteen special that David Hepworth did around the time of Born In The USA. Had it on video for years but due to never labelling my tapes have been unable to find it ever since!

grac | 28 August 2008 - 4:23pm

Very much doubt you'll get that

That will be owned by Springsteen, I would imagine. The stuff they're talking about will be material recorded on BBC premises, I reckon.

David Hepworth | 28 August 2008 - 4:36pm

He's not fooling you, is he, Grac?

Does Heppo think that we DON'T know he has a stash of A1 quality pirates, from his time on OGWT and all the other shows, all neatly filed away somewhere??

Stephen Hanley | 28 August 2008 - 6:21pm

How about

Some entire Peel shows. There's lots of kids who are now being told what a massive loss to music his death was but they're too young to have heard him on the radio. I for one would happily download and listen to a handful of classic shows from across the eras. Although it might be a bit spooky.

Niks | 28 August 2008 - 4:23pm

I'm sure there are places..

...on the web where you can get that kind of thing. Preferably with the news bulletins still in them. We need more of that kind of thing.

David Hepworth | 28 August 2008 - 4:37pm
humphreym | 28 August 2008 - 6:04pm

good spot

But I want 78-80 please :-)

GunsOfBrixton | 28 August 2008 - 7:04pm

If you find them...

Please let us know !

Hot Cider | 28 August 2008 - 8:12pm

I just found...

this one http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapesrewound.html haven't tried them yet so not sure if they are active. I think that Mr.Hepworth is right, there is bound to be somewhere on the web that has all of them!

humphreym | 29 August 2008 - 10:50am

Ta

Am currently filling up the gigs on my ipod from these two sites.

Niks | 29 August 2008 - 11:15am

I'm doing..

exactly the same thing! Just listening to The Cure from Christmas Eve 1979!

humphreym | 29 August 2008 - 11:21am

It has to be the Mighty

CUD. As any fule kno Carl and the boys rock harder than easter island head or summat....
all together now "i was a teenage stamp collector

Chris G | 28 August 2008 - 4:27pm

Oh yes

I've been after You Sexy Thing for ages

lovelyian | 28 August 2008 - 4:44pm

I believe

..in miracles....

Chris G | 28 August 2008 - 7:03pm

Let Me Eat...

Bogshed!

James Blast | 28 August 2008 - 5:01pm

Back Door

live on Peel. Awesome.

Vulpes Vulpes | 28 August 2008 - 5:37pm

Kevin Ayers

I'd love to hear those songs from sessions heard over the very crackly and distorted airwaves in the days of 247 Medium Wave.
And much more - Graham Parker; Heads, Hands & Feet & Traffic spring to mind.

Carl Parker | 28 August 2008 - 6:39pm

Oh Lor....

...I can feel my hoarding instincts going into overdrive even now. If we're talking about streaming-only then I'll probably be more selective. But if we're talking downloads, then nothing less than every single episode EVER of OGWT will suffice. God I'm sad... There are also a lot of Glastonbury performances I'd like to have as downloaded video recordings, from Pulp's breakthrough to The Imagined Village this year.

As far as audio files are concerned, I agree with the comment above about not wanting any live recordings. As sound-only experiences, these are too muddy too often. But Peel Sessions (and other "sessions") would be well worth having. There's a handy Wikipedia list here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Peel_Sessions_artists

Better start clearting a few terabytes on iTunes, then...

Paul Vincent | 29 August 2008 - 8:06am

OGWT?

Eh up! I'm old enough to remember its predecessor Disco 2.

Beany | 29 August 2008 - 8:32am

Disco 2

We got BBC2 just in time for me to catch the last couple of editions of Disco 2.
Didn't Disco 2 do a broadcast of Bob Dylan's gig at the Isle of Wight? (Note for younger viewers, unlike today Dylan was at that time in semi-retirement and so a gig on these shores was something of note and getting any live non-classical music was something to be treasured, if you had BBC2).

Carl Parker | 29 August 2008 - 9:57am

Oh I'm old enough...

...but when I were a lad, we were so poor there were twelve of us living in a paper bag in a septic tank, and our telly only received BBC1 and ITV (plus radio stations labelled "L", "H" and "3" on the control knob - those old enough can work these out for themselves!). The only times I saw Disco 2 were when my mate Gary's parents went out for the evening, so we'd have an evening of playing his big brother's collection of Motown, Stax and Hot Wax singles, followed by watching Disco 2. Happily we had BBC2 by the time OGWT started.

Paul Vincent | 29 August 2008 - 12:32pm

Peel & Walters Video Show

Some time in the 80s Johns Peel & Walters did a show over several hours, featuring some of the best videos of the time. As well as the usual suspects (a-ha's "Take On Me" etc.), there were some more unusual selections that introduced me to, amongst others, Donald Fagen ("New Frontier"), Tom Tom Club ("Genius Of Love") and Miles Davis ("Tutu"). I think I saw it twice, both very late at night, and loved the whole experience of having to stay up to watch (video recorders not being a technology that reached my parents' house until the mid-nineties).

That's what I'd get, if I could.

phonefreakhoney | 29 August 2008 - 10:26am

Peel Sessions

I begn listening to John Peel circa 1972/3, and began taping them form then onwards until 1999, when I emigrated to Sydney, Australia.
I have bucket loads of John Peel sessions, from orgiinal broadcast stuff from Hatfield & The North,Gong, The Damned, Be Bop Deluxe,The Specials, Magazine, Thin Lizzy,not to mention the review he did roundabout mid/late 70s when he replayed the choicest sessions from Family, Fairport Convention, Faces, Pink Floyd, David Bowie et al.
Of course, they are all on tape, and will have begun to go "off" by now, so I too shall be spending even more money on music in the coming months/years.
Bugger!

Dougie | 31 August 2008 - 6:46am

Dont know about the BBC,

but I lay my hat at a jaunty angle to whomever linked to the Peel Show mp3's.

THAT's why you need 80gb's!

Rispick.

waldorf | 31 August 2008 - 9:41pm

25 Years Of Rock

Written by John Tobler, featured snippets of songs from a year interspersed with news stories & archive recordings. It went out on Sunday evenings on Radio 1 in 1980 (I think) and was the first real attempt at a UK pop history on radio. I bet it still stands up - it had an air of scholarly gravitas unknown to music radio at the time, but was great entertainment as well.

Graham Johns | 1 September 2008 - 12:48am

Does anyone remember Tanita Tikaram's first session?

It was for Andy Kershaw's programme, and was the first I'd heard of her. It was utterly delightful, just her and her guitar singing four songs, her voice sounding beautiful, completely unstrained, which is the key. On nearly all of the records she seemed to be forcing it, and it sounded pretty unappealing a lot of the time. Of the four songs on that session, three turned up on the debut album, sounding glossed up by that bland Argent/Van Hooke production, guitar replaced by offensively hygenic keyboard washes. Yuk!

Her last album was pretty good, but it still seems to me she hasn't recovered the magic of the first session.

Azeem | 1 September 2008 - 12:17pm

Show me the list of whats available.....

I cant wait for this. There's many a session I want a copy of.

Whatever happened to that wonderful idea of a BBC TV Channel that showed the BBC's music archive?? Is this the first step towards the BBC finally realising just what goodies they have in their archive??? At last :o)

Almost Simon | 3 September 2008 - 7:58pm