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BBC Sports Personality: who should win?
Apologies if we've already done this and I've missed it.
Here's the shortlist for Sunday's show,
Rebecca Adlington
Ben Ainslie
Joe Calzaghe
Nicole Cooke
Lewis Hamilton
Chris Hoy
Andy Murray
Christine Ohuruogu
Rebecca Romero
Bradley Wiggins
Personally I'm gunning for Adlington. I realise Lewis Hamilton's acheievements may have had a greater global impact and will echo longer in the corridors of history but the prize is supposed to go to a sports 'Personality'. Hamilton maybe a nice guy but Adlington fair lights up the room wherever she goes. For that same reason Andy Murray should never, ever win - even if he manages to win every grand slam going.
If it's not Adlington I'd go for Calzaghe, even though he won it last year, just because he's probably the pluckiest bloke in the world.
What say you Worders?
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Rebecca Romero
because she's got medals in two different endurance sports but mainly because she seems quite grumpy and bit brittle not the normal happy clappy olympian.
Agree....
There's some seething sexual tension in there....quite attractive!
That's a relief...
... I thought it was only me.
Bitter much?
Excuse the Buffyism - I watched a few episodes last night. Anyway,
Is this because he made some minor jibe at the English football team several years ago, before media training taught him that an honestresponse is often the last thing you should say?
Because, lets face it, compared with Henman in terms of personality he's Peter ustinov.
Oh, and I agree that Adlington should win.
Yes Indeed
Why Exactly should Murray not win?
He can be quite droll at times.
No...
Sorry Gatz, he has the personality of a gnat, but he is a brilliant tennis player. The problem is the title of the award. It should be "Sportsman/ Woman of the year". Personality should have nothing to do with it. See former "Personalities" to prove my point:
Princess Anne
Nigel Mansell
David Beckham
There's a nightmare guest list for your dinner party if ever I saw one.
If it was really a "Personality" award, it should have gone to Harvey Smith, Geoff Boycott, Brian Clough, Daley Thompson, or any other of the genuinely interesting sporting characters that used to light up our lives....
How Dare You!
How dare you insult the Royals (sic)
Princess Anne is hilarious!
In her own way
Yep
If he doesn't want to support England then he shouldn't complain if we decide not to support him. That's fair enough isn't it?
He is clearly a great tennis player and he may be a nice guy in private but I just find him very boring.
Nope
Although the title of the award is "Sports Personality of the Year" it should be obvious that what they're looking for is best sports performer rather than cheeky chappies with a merry quip at the ready. Sportspeople are often a bit one-dimensional, presumably as a consequence of their single-minded dedication. There are exceptions of course (Ali being an obvious example) but many more great sportsmen whose achievements should not be belittled by their lack of "personality" (Dalglish, Sampras, Nicklaus etc etc). If however you really want big personalities in your sportsmen, there's always WWF!
Murray is not yet a great tennis player - he is merely very very good and likely to get better - the most exciting prospect in British tennis this side of WW II. His alleged "boringness" and his opinions on the England football team shouldn't diminish this excitement.
Rebecca Adlington
I was on holiday when she won her stuff so I have no appreciation of her, other than Frankie Boyle's joke on Mock The Week (something about having a face like that of a spoon-reflection).
Chris Hoy should win, but won't cos he is Scottish and in a minority sport.
The only one I've ever heard of. . .
is Lewis Hamilton. And he has all the personality of a multi-storey car park.
Can I vote for Nobby Stiles?
Beat me to it!
Actually I have also heard or Andy Murray. Who are the rest of them then? Mind you, I successfully missed every single minute of the Olympics so this is probably not the right thread for me.
What does 'Sports Personality of the Year' actually mean?
Do they seriously mean that you can be utter pants at your chosen sport as long as you've got an engaging character? No.
Steve Redgrave won it, if I recall, and he's not exactly Captain Personality (which is not to suggest that there's anything wrong with him, merely that he's not the sort of person who comes across well on TV/radio), so they presumably actually do mean to award someone whose achievements are noteworthy.
So, why haven't they got a single Paralympian in there? Dave Roberts has got 11 Paralympic golds. Surely he's worthy of inclusion on the short list?
Past winners include. . .
Steve "Interesting" Davis, so I think the personality bit must just mean "famousish".
I wonder whether it's just a fudge
to get over the fact that if you're not going to be apallingly sexist, 'sportsperson' sounds so utterly horrible?
A cyclist!
There are 4 in that list and everyone of them actually HAS a personality! For my money though, Nicole Cooke - that last 500 meters was unbelievable!
Seconded
The Olympic moment that had me leaping up and down: When the TV cameras went a bit 'random' and when normal service was resumed, Cooke had gone from 5th to 1st. Bloody marvellous.
On a different note, Shane Williams should at least had been on the shortlist for all his achievements this year. And yes, I am Welsh.
agree
Jon, I couldn't agree with you more and I'm a Scotsman. And isn't Sports Personality and oxymoron?
Bradley Wiggins
He's a grumpy mod with a top-quality name.
...and he looks like
a young Paul Weller
Don't really care who wins
As long as they actually deign to live in this country rather than avoid tax by living elsewhere. As far as I can see, that only rules out one of them.
Lewis
I'd like Lewis to win, but I'm biased towards F1.
Meanwhile, I can't think of a single reason why someone should be forced to continue living in a country where the levels of taxation are unnecessarily punitive.
Unless, of course, they earn more than I do...
Apologies, but I'm trying to get into this trendy left-wing politics of envy thing. It's not easy, is it?
Hamilton will win
1996: Damon Hill
1992: Nigel Mansell
1973: Jackie Stewart
Three years in which British drivers won the Formula One driver's championship. In each case, they also won the BBC award. Hell, both Mansell and Hill also won the award in years in which they came second.
1992 and 1996 were both Olymipic years, and yet the success of, say, Linford Christie or Sally Gunnell in Barcelona still wasn't enough to stop the drivers winning, so you can discount Hoy/Romero/Addlington from doing the same. The only hope we ever have of pushing a Formula One personality into second place in the BBC poll is during a Winter Olympic year, when the purple-rinse block vote ensures the success of any gold-winning ice skater (i.e. John Curry in 1976 pushing James Hunt into second place).
Wow
That was stat-tastic!
Rebecca Adlington
To my mind she did the toughest thing in sport and won ugly.
Nobody.....
Nose that.
I Am Not Sure Lewis Hamilton Will Win
Why ? the R word, does Lewis Hamilton deserve to win ? Overall I think yes,but only just,
Many of the candidates having pressing claims, the amount of dedication and shear effort needed over many years to win a olympic gold in cycling for example is immense.The fact that Hoy won three is remarkable,similarly with Adlington and Romero.
But I think Hamilton should win it why ? because of where he came from and what he has achieved and the level of skill and physical effort combined needed to win a world championship and the dramatic way in which he won it.
Personality ? it should be called Sports Winner of the year and on that basis I think Lewis Hamilton should win but only just.
A 'no' for Hamilton
Isn't it a widely-accepted view that Formula 1 is 90% about the car and 10% about the driver. If that's the case, shouldn't Hamilton's chief engineer (whoever they may be) be nominated? And what about Hamilton's Dad? He's always there to manage and give moral support.
In fact, scrap that, my nomination to win is that ropey looking one out of the Pussycat Dolls.
No
it's not true. Hamilton is easily one of the best drivers the UK has ever produced. If, as you claim, it's 90% the car then what happened to teammate Heikki Kovalainen this season?
Equally, as F1 is a team sport, why did David Beckham win? Why not give the award to Man U or the England squad or Real Madrid?
I'm not denying he's good
He's a very talented driver and you're right, one of the best the UK has ever had. Formula 1 is won and lost on such tight margins, Lewis would only need to be slightly better on his 10% to consistently outperform Kovalainen, which he did. There's also the possibility that Hamilton had better advisers, technicians etc. He was the team number 1 driver after all.
As for Beckham, I'd say he won for his overall team play plus his individual performances which carried the team. You can judge who the best performer in a football team is, it's much more complicated to do the same in a Formula 1 team.
Not being particularly interested in sport in general,
I can't say I'm that fussed one way or the other, but as my wife's Auntie Margaret is chums with Joe's Mum, I'm rooting for young Mr. Calzaghe.
On the question of Lewis, I'm fascinated to know what the 'R word' is. Rutabaga? Rotorua? Runcible? Please enlighten me.
Minority sports
Compared with the likes of footy, rugby and cricket, most sports are minority sports. Every four years we have the same old thing. A load of jingoistic nonsense at the olympics, everybody who wins anything also practically guarantee themselves gongs in the new year's honours list and then a nomination for sports personality of the year.
But we should ask the people who vote one simple question. If they wanted to see the person that they deem to be the best sportsperson in this country this year, where would they go at the weekend? Okay, this is a bit unfair on Lewis and Calzaghe, but who has any interest in our olympic heroes inbetween olympics? Rebecca Adlington will come in the top three, as will Chris Hoy, but how many people will be turning up to see them live when they're next in action?
I've always found
the award an oddity - it's as though the BBC is saying that being good at sport isn't particularly exciting or interesting, so they'll ignore the skill of the sportsfolk, and reward them for having a wonderful personality instead. As a sportphobe, I find this amusing.
My vote goes to Andy Murray
He was a great press officer at Stiff Records in their heyday.
Wha?
Surely Deep Blue should win Sports Personality of the Year?
I think...
It will be Hamilton, but it should to Chris Hoy. His achievements were above and beyond and he seems a good - reference the "race" he had with James Cracknell on the worst bikes they could find in Beijing for the Telegraphs Olympic coverage
Nicole Cooke
Won the olympics AND the world championship in the same year, which is almost unheard of in road cycling.
They'll fix it in the end, won't they?
When Bob Nudd was Britain's and the World's Top Angler, Angling Times used to organise a massive write-in campaign to win him the prize. He never did. Make of that what you will.
Bloody hell
I have a CD single by Bob, called Maggots In Your Catapult. Would I lie to you?
short soundclip here http://www.davidc.net/~david/mp3/Maggots.wav
According to Wikipedia "In 1991 he received the most votes ever in the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award but was denied victory by the BBC, who claimed a campaign to vote for him in the weekly fishing newspaper Angling Times was against competition rules. He has an MBE for services to fishing."
Bastards.
Funny,
but I never had you down as a folding chair and umbrella man, David.
I'm not
But there have been times in the past when I've smelled cooking coming from the region of the count. If you're going to do any ballot like that nowadays you've got to have it audited. Do they do that?
Luckily for them
They changed it so the great unwashed now select from their list. Otherwise in these no-rigging-allowed times, there'd be a Phil 'The Power' Taylor, a Bob Nudd or the Eddie The Eagle of the day winning it.
It should have been Shane
IRB player of the year
Welsh SPorts Personality of the Year
Welsh Grand slam winner
One man try factory & not even on the list....Shane, who?
Fantastic
Thanks for posting that. People will talk a lot about the R word if Lewis doesn't win, but if Shane Williams was English...
Obviously "Team GB" will win the team vote...
But if you really are a football fan - really, really a fan of football, you should be casting your vote for Barnsley FC for the hilarious spectacle of seeing Liverpool beaten in the last minute at Anfield and the mighty Chelsea humbled at Oakwell, both in the FA Cup.
Just watch Phil Thompsons face...
Bar Steward
But thankfully it does remind me of my free bet on Betfair on which I placed £5 for Barnsley to beat Chelsea in the following round. So I can't complain.
The tykes
are Britains team of the year every Year, they are not only "just like watching Brazil" but "by far the greatest team the word has ever seen"
Either
Chris Hoy, Rebecca Romero, Bradley Wiggins, Nicole Cooke, Ben Ainslie or Rebecaa Adlington. British Olympians own British sport this year.
On basis of added personality I would probably go for Rebecca Addlington but they're all worthy.