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Bastard iTunes!

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Why oh why does iTunes not behave like all other Apple programs do!?

I converted a VIDEO_TS folder to MPG.4 via Handbrake and placed it in my iTunes/iTunes Media/Movies folder and it shows up in iTunes but it just will not copy the file over to my iPod.

Did Apple decide to get some programmers from Microsoft in to design this damn thing?

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iTunes is awful

What I really hate about it is it's inability to do the seemingly ridiculously simple feat of sorting a list of songs in order of album and track number. I wouldn't use it, or indeed any Apple product at all if I could but alas the iPod is now the only high capacity music player on the market and my trusty Iriver player broke down. A huge shame as it sounded better and went much louder, and to put music or films on it you just dragged and dropped and there it was.

That said, plug in your iPod, select it in iTunes and go over to the 'Films' tab and make sure 'Sync Films' is ticked.

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Dr Volume | 3 April 2010 - 1:02am

Sorting

iTunes sorts tracks by whatever you want it to, alphabetical, track no, album name, track length, each altered with a single click just as you would expect. Both Windows and OSX versions behave the same.

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JohnW | 3 April 2010 - 7:20am

I know but....

In a playlist I want to sort by Album title, then track number so it plays a few albums in sequence. It seems to only sort on one column, drives me dotty! Anyone know the solution?

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Dr Volume | 4 April 2010 - 12:12am

Could you be more specific?

Because the solution to your problem above is not difficult, so I think maybe I'm missing the crux of it.

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ChaosandMorphine | 4 April 2010 - 3:04am

That's a bit rubbish

I never realised that, that's a bit rubbish isn't it? The only defence I can offer is that playlists are intended to be built on a track by track basis (which is what I've always done which is why I've never encountered the weakness before). What seems most odd is that playlists behave differently to any other part of iTunes.

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JohnW | 4 April 2010 - 7:28am

Check your Handbrake Settings

If you converted at full resolution, it simply will not copy over to the iPod as that is limited (can't remember the exact limits). Best is to use the "iPod" setting on Handbrake to do the conversion.

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chrisf | 3 April 2010 - 6:41am

my bad

I'm still in my infancy with Handbrake it has a lot of bells and whistles, that worked for me

Thankee!

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James Blast | 3 April 2010 - 5:42pm

Harsh

I think you're being harsh on two counts.
Apple defence: There's no point in copying a file to the ipod that won't play once it's there. Microsoft software would probably have let this happen.

Microsoft defence: Unlike Apple software, Microsoft software normally lets you do what you like whether or not it's sensible.

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JohnW | 3 April 2010 - 7:01am

You may be referring already to this

but in fairly recent edition(s) of iTunes there is now an "automatically add to iPod" (or something like that) folder. Dropping files in there adds them except when the format isn't playable when they get put in a subfolder that says something like "unplayable".

It will reorganise rest of music file system the first time it creates this directory so you may not wish to upgrade but I have found this to work fine, only formats that I tried and couldn't play were some of the higher res Quicktime, and .avi.

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SpaceBoy | 3 April 2010 - 9:33am

that worked

Oh Lordy! am I glad I started this thread

Thankee!

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James Blast | 3 April 2010 - 5:43pm

I have this problem sometimes

1. Click on 'Create version for iPod'

2. Leave house for the rest of the day

Also, after much faffing, this worked for me:

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/anyone-else-use-handbrake#comment-...

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Lucas Hare | 3 April 2010 - 9:44am

In iTunes, you can select

In iTunes, you can select the movie, click on 'Advanced' then 'Create version for iPod'. That should do it.

Not entirely sure, but I think it has something to do with H.264 codec thingie. I always tick that box in Handbrake anyway!

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daddyorchipsblog | 3 April 2010 - 10:01am

man oh man

yet another piece of advice that is straight and true

Thankee!

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James Blast | 3 April 2010 - 5:44pm

iTunes use not mandatory

Why not avoid all that unpleasantness by using Media Monkey, which features full device synching and much more besides?

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quizboy | 3 April 2010 - 10:11am

Alas MM's not available for

Alas MM's not available for the Mac.

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daddyorchipsblog | 3 April 2010 - 10:32am

Not a lot of agreement here.

Microsoft do know how to write software and user interfaces. Sometimes they actually do it too. I use iTunes (on Windows on behalf of my son's iPod) and Windows Media Player (for stuff I listen to), and can confidently state that iTunes as a user interface is a load of bollix, whereas WMP actually provides me with views of the content and functions I actually use and like.

Media Center is slightly less thrilling, but that's only because the UI is oriented to a TV remote for input rather than a PC keyboard/mouse. And it's still better than iTunes.

Oh, and WMP knows how to deal with video files too. If they can just get it to deal with BluRay discs without having to get some 3rd party crapware installed, I'd be laughing.

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Harold Holt | 3 April 2010 - 11:30am

I've never had a problem with iTunes

It does absolutely everything I've ever wanted it to, and is incredibly user friendly. Never understood the gripes people have.

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Lucas Hare | 4 April 2010 - 9:50am

iTunes, iPod, iPhone

[and we can probably add the iPad soon] problems are [and I'm gonna stick my neck out here] *always* down to something the user is either doing wrong or doesn't know how to do.

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ChaosandMorphine | 4 April 2010 - 3:36pm

but that's the thing

Macs are for computer bozos like myself that just want it to do things the easiest and simplest way, iTunes doesn't behave like that - why can't iPods just sit on the desktop like any other flash drive and allow us to copy items in and out?

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James Blast | 4 April 2010 - 3:48pm

iTunes works the same way as iPhoto

You don't 'need' to know where the music/photos are as long as you always use iTunes/iPhoto to access them - "OSX knows best"

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stimpy | 4 April 2010 - 3:57pm

Might be worth a look

This problem never quite seems to go away, but this looks helpful:

http://lifehacker.com/5572037/handbrake-presets-for-your-new-ipad-or-iph...

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Lucas Hare | 23 January 2011 - 1:09pm
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