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Bad Actors
I stopped following soaps or any kind of regular tv drama (if I ever did) quite some years ago, but of course I still often see parts of such burbling in the background of my home life.
When this happens what does tend to draw me to the screen more than anything are the appalling acting abilities on display. Over Christmas Mrs B was watching Corrie and I was taken aback by one scene. Steve, the bloke who owns(?) The Rovers, was having a row with his wife while drunk. Or so we were meant to believe.
It was the most crass, lazy and entirely unconvincing performance I've seen in an age. Comical wobbling and slurring. I half expected him to break the fourth wall and give us all a cheeky chap double thumbs up and aside 'I know! It's shit isn't it?'
I know, it's short order relentless pulp and not Chekov. It's not meant to be. But come on. If you're an actor then act. Convince us.
Who else in your opinion can't act for toffee?
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let's start with..
Danny Dyer - the "Nuts" generation's Marlon Brando -taking Cockernee Geezerdom to a place BEYOND method..where he is and forever shall be a touchstone of incandescent naffness.
Seth Rogen and that sweary git out of Superbad -the same fat stoner blokes in ALL of their films. Judd Apatow has a lot to answer for.
We could also throw in Sean William Scott - same "jock" in every movie he's made.
Can I mention ALL of the cast of "Grey's Anatomy"? Makes "Holby City" look like Chekov.
I can't comment on the members of various rep companies that make up the casts of the soaps, 'cos I don't watch them.
Horne and Corden - charmless nurks as iTunes FREE download of "Lesbian Vampire Killers" demonstrated.
Although I was mesmerised by her bottom in "Eyes Wide Shut" I think Nicole
Kidman has voyaged into the realm of the unwatchable under the mentorship of Baz L.
Orlando Bloom's a bit wet and will NEVER make a leading man..as "Kingdom Of Heaven" aptly demonstrated.
Shia La Beef / Megan Fox = the Transformers were better.
Nicole
Kindling, as she will now be known as.
I disagree re: Nicole
Her performances in Birth, The Others, Dogville demonstrate how good she can be.
John Nettles anyone?
has there been a more wooden actor in television history, apart from the guy who played Pete Beale in Eastenders?
I knew an actress from Home and Away
and she said it was virtually impossible to give a good performance. No rehearsal time and deliberately bland scripts is a toxic mix.
I think
The same can be said for a lot of television in this country.
I hate to mention it but...
Hollyoaks. Bottom of the barrel for me.
Yes
but top totty.
Does anyone know
the viewing figures to calendar sales ratio?
Keanu Reeves.
Aside from Bill & Ted, where he was basically playing himself.
I'm not sure what he's got, he seems charisma & talent free to me - I'm told The Matrix movies are good, and that he has improved with age, but his name in a cast list generally ensures that I don't watch. If anyone can name a recent watchable movie of his, I'd be willing to review my position.
Canoe Reeves
Fair point. I think that 'blockbuster' films like Matrix would have been successful with anyone playing Neo.The excellent Speed Racer succeeded without a Star. If you look at (if you can, I can) Transformers and G.I. Joe the leading men were hardly A List actors. I have PJ's King Kong on DVD and in the extras the actors are really pushed for things to say so marginalised were they in production and on screen.
Gone are the days, I think, of the studio pissing 15,000,000 bucks on the Star for these films. Did Benjamin Button need the limited acting chops of Brad Pitt? ps. I do like Constantine. Good cast too.
Julie Waters
After having seen her again on the Victoria Wood special last week I nominate Julie Waters. I'll accept that it may just be comedy acting that she does badly but most of what she does with Victoria Wood is painful.
Do you mean Julie Walters?
If so, I'll accept that much of her comedy acting can be OTT (although Victoria Wood in particular writes deliberately OTT parts for her) but she can turn in fine performances in both comedy and serious roles
Saw some of that drama about Assisted Suicide
Was it "A Short Stay in Switzerland"?
She was excellent in that.
She is our finest actress
or one of, at least.
That Victoria Wood thing wasn't her fault. The writing was appalling. I can't believe she was allowed to get away with delivering such dross. Victoria Wood used to be brilliant, but I fear she's lost her way.
I agree and disagree
Julie Walters is indeed one of our fnest actresses, And the Victoria Wood special was one of the highlights of Christmas TV.
Michael Caine.
He's the same character in every film. And that character is Michael Caine.
Ditto
Ricky Gervais.
Except he plays Ricky Gervais not Michael Caine....
Gervais
I thought he was a genius in the Office but he should steer well clear of Hollywood - his cameos in the Night At The Museum movies were cringeworthy.
Steve Coogan
is also crap in Hollywood movies. I suspect it's because they are both always asked to play David Brent and Alan Partridge respectively.
Sorry
double post
I'm not sure this is the case
It think it's more the fact that Caine makes the part his own, just as any good actor will. Caine plays two totally different characters perfectly in Batman and in Is Anybody There? but he's still recognisably Michael Caine because that's what he brings to the part. Philip Seymour Hoffman does the same. Al Pacino.
Yes
I'm not sure what good acting is but I, like most of us, know it when I see it. But I do know that it's not merely as simple as being versatile. On those grounds one could say Clint Eastwood is a rubbish actor because he's always Clint Eastwood. Hell, on those grounds we can virtually discount James Dean, Humphrey Bogart; the list is endless.
Nah
Compare Michael Caine's characters in the following films, off the top of my head:
Zulu
Alfie
Get Carter
Hannah and Her Sisters
Educating Rita
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
Little Voice
Quills
While I wouldn't claim he was unrecognisable from film to film, I maintain that not only were the characters very different, but his playing of them was different too. I think he really can act. Obviously, he's appeared in a lot of awful films (anyone seen Blame It On Rio?), and I think that has done his reputation a lot of damage. But he's a class act.
Caino
Agreed.I thought that he was uperb in 'Sisters'.
Fifteen years ago or so he made for the BBC a kind of 'Movie Acting Class' with some young actors. It was very good I remember. I don't suppose the BBC will ever repeat it. MC also does a commentary on the Funeral in Berlin DVD. Very interesting.
cliche
I always find him to be completely believable if the material is good, if there's a problem it is that he takes some roles to pay the bills.
Not wholly the case
Bromhead in Zulu and Jack Carter are some distance apart. For me a bad actor is someone who fails to convince in a role. I'd agree that that the range of roles MC has tackled isn't wide, but he's mostly been credible. Same goes for Tom Hanks.
Surely
the fact that Michael Caine has been in the business successfully for so long indicates that he can't be that bad.
Cider House Rules is a good example of a great performance bit still Michael Caine.
If you diss MC then why not Sean Connery?
Sugar pie, honey bunch...
Michael Caine is The Four Tops of acting. He does one thing and one thing only, but he does it so well that you can forgive him for doing it over and over again. He's had a few "Loco In Acapulco"s in his time, but you know he's always got a "Seven Rooms Of Gloom" he can whip out when the chips are down.
I thought the same
until I saw Hannah and Her Sisters. He's so good in that, I don't care if it's familiar territory.
I'll watch Michael Caine is just about anything...
... he seems to just bring "something" to everything he does, even when it's crap. That to me is the sign of a good actor.
Keira Knightly
Familiar target but Keira is delicately carved mahogany in all of the tripe she has been involved with.
Nettles is indeed inert which is an achievement given the regular cast of overbaked hams on display in Midsomer.
Ikea Knightley
as The Good Doctor used to call her, particularly when partnered with Orloomdo Bland in Pirates Of The Caribbean.
I'll also add my voice to the selection further down the page of Catherin Tate - dear god, she makes Brian Blessed look understated.
Sorry to drag this thread back but...
I just watched Atonement and I had to vent about how utterly terrible Keira was in the movie. It's the first serious film I've seen her in, thought she was passable in Bend It Like Beckham and the Pirates movies, but she really was poor in Atonement, totally ruined a beautifully shot film. That James McAvoy was very good though, but he must have been so frustrated to try and convey the passion of their relationship acting opposite her.
I used to think...
That Sam Rockwell fell into this category But then I saw moon and realized I was wrong, very wrong.
Have you seen Matchstick Men
Another good Rockwell performance way before Moon
Nicolas
Cage
Agreed!
The worst actor ever there was.
Yup: as soon as I see his
Yup: as soon as I see his name in a cast-list the film becomes unwatchable for me. However good the plot, however good the rest of the cast etc etc I just can't bear to watch a film if he's in it.
I think the same about Nicolas Cage apart from
Adaptation. I don't know why, but I just found him to be amazing in this, just hit my buttons. Usually I can't bear to watch him.
But he is versatile
http://niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/
Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Somebody really needs to sit me down and explain how this guy gets to call himself an actor. I mean he even makes Julian Sands look like a seasoned pro (as opposed to his normal state of seasoned hardwood).
Oh Lord, he's bloody
Oh Lord, he's bloody dreadful isn't he! I saw him in Bend it Like Beckham and Woody Allen's Match Point. He seems to confuse 'smouldering' with 'just coming out of a general anaesthetic'.
Clive Owen
A bigger plank of wood never walked the earth. That silly, strangulated voice. He gets by on looks alone. Have you seen Croupier? It's laughable.
Freema Agyeman. Give it up, love.
Ciaran Hinds. Britain's biggest ham.
Really?
I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but I thought he was fantastic in Closer. He turns an average film into a good one and completely steals the show from some much bigger names
I enjoyed Children Of God
I thought he was okay in that. But he does tend to play very samey characters. His voice never alters.
Think you mean
Children of Men. Great film either way :0)
Owen
That he ever graduated from ITV's Sunday evening "Last night... it meant nothing..." dramas is a mystery to me.
He's got something
I sort of agree that he can be a bit wooden; but for me he's better than that. He carries a certain menace about him, a hint of danger, that he might turn violent at any moment. I think he's very good in Croupier and also in Gosford Park - the way he delivers the line (to Ryan Philippe, a seriously weak actor) "and don't call me 'mate'" is a great example of the coiled-spring-thing he has.
Daniel Craig
rubbish!
I take it...
...you've never seen 'Our Friends in the North' then?
No
Was that the TV series where they have awful ill-fitting 70's wigs and stick-on comedy moustaches? That put me off a bit.
That's the one
I didn't think it was all that either.
I don't think Daniel Craig is good in anything but James Bond films. Flashbacks of a Fool was ludicrous.
But do you think
he's a good James Bond? I think he is awful - no charm or humour in the slightest.
Wasn't that a deliberate policy?
Hadn't we had enough of the cheesy humour and groan inducing puns of previous Bonds?
Far, far, far better than
Far, far, far better than bloody Pierce Brosnan as Bond! Craig makes him believable and less cheesy by far.
Brosnan
When did the backlash start? While he was James Bond, he was the best since Connery; when he finished, everyone started slagging him off. I don't get it.
You're just saying that...
because you've beaten up by him.
IMO he was shocking. More
IMO he was shocking. More cheesy and smarmy than Moore ever was and the films, or parts I have seen of them, were totally ridiculous. Casino Royale, at least,(I haven't seen the new one), was an action film with a believable lead. I can't stand all that cheesy stuff Brosnan did when he saw a woman and they virtually fell at his feet.
Apart
from Layer Cake
But every other film seems to be the same character, just with a different name in different circumstances
So..
how can your acting chops be tested if you star in action movies or get roles as a spy, police, whatever? He was great in that Francis Bacon movie "Love is the Devil" but has chosen to become a movie star instead.
Also great in:
Some Voices, playing a man newly out of a psychiatric hospital. Wonderful film.
Question:
Are we considering Madonna to be an actor/actress in the first place?
If we are I would like to nominate her. Not so swept away by her.
David Bowie
As usual...
Cheap shot I know as clearly he was never an actor, but his appearances on film were stinkers.
I always remember a review of a Liz Hurley film where they made the comment that she is so hopeless she can't even walk convincingly.
Well...
I thought he worked fine in the Man Who Fell To Earth, with that mechanical, blank performance being perfect. By accident or design. But something like Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence proves that he should really stick to the day job.
He's great in Christiane F
Where he plays..er..some bloke called David Bowie doing a gig in Berlin.
Well, I think that invites a relevant point.
Bowie seems to be better at *inhabiting* personae rather than projecting them for any sustained length of time. I think he learned a lot of what he considers to be his acting craft with Lindsay kemp's mime troupe in the late 60's and the stagecraft, as oppposed to the acting skills he picked up there stood him in very good stead indeed
and made Ziggy and the Duke so mesmerising.
Given his stage-shows, there was always going to be heightened expectations of his acting, but without the excellence of his songs, musicianship and singing to fall back on,such as there'd be in a gig, or even the piano-led singalong scene in Extras, the whole enterprise would, often as not, resemble a reticent souffle.
I would agree that MWFTE is a towering, if unintentionally so, performance but I would equally argue that Jazzin For Blue Jean is a muddily low watermark.
On the other hand, I think one of the best ever Dame 'acting' performances is the one recently mentioned on the Danny Baker Word Podcast, where for the 1st few minutes, he deflects all probing with a gloriously surreal, comic and apparently improvised monologue. A joy to watch.
I remember
that he once described 'Just A Gigolo' as his '32 Elvis films rolled into one'.
Check out The Prestige
I've always thought The Dame a little underrated when it comes to acting. For evidence, have a look at his creepy, eerie little role as Tesla in The Prestige. The man who fell to earth, indeed.
you haven't seen
"Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence".
Sean Connery
Terribly stiff and flat as Bond. He managed to make all those awful puns and jokes in the scripts even worse.
Then he moved on and developed that ridiculous 'sh' lisp. Which drives me to the off switch within seconds of hearing it.
Why won't he at least attempt accents? An Egyptian/Spanish immortal with a Scottish accent called 'Ramirej' (Ramirez) in Highlander anyone?
O'Connery & O'Connolly
You'd think with the Gaelic/Celtic connections that both these Scottish chaps would be able to make a decent attempt at an Irish accent - but no!
The evidence is there in Sean's "Irish" policeman in the Untouchables and Billy Connolly's "Irish" soldier in The Last Samurai - why didn't the Director just have them play a Scottish policeman and a Scottish soldier for god's sake?!
Seen Enemy At The Gate?
Starring Jude Law as the Russian sniper with the cut-glass English accent? Same movie, Rachel Weiss, Ed Harris, Joseph Fiennes, all playing foreigners, all speaking with their own accents?
Connery is always singled out for this "Huh? a russian submarine commander with a scottish accent? What's all that about?" Give it a rest.
That's right
it's far better to have them speaking in their own accent than to end up sounding like something out of 'Allo 'Allo.
Mind you the flipside of this is Kenneth Branagh's version of the Swedish Detective programme Wallander. All the main actors are British and they all speak English although they are playing Swedish characters and the whole thing is filmed in Sweden - you just think, why not just base the bloody films in England then!
and the swedish version
is so much better in every conceivable way.
sheems like a good time to posht thish
http://www.cracked.com/funny-79-sean-connery/
I'm not having any of that "scottish accent" crap
I'd much rather ANY actor gave a good performance in their own accent than some cringeworthy "Vee hav vays of making you talk.." effort. I watched Amadeus over the Christmas, and there was no attempt by any actor to hide their Californian/English accent. Funny that.
Oh, bad actors..... Mark Harmon (The Presidio, NCIS)
He plays
a stiff in NCIS, and so I'm not sure how his acting in it can be considered bad? His lack of reactions etc are part of the character.
I've not seen The Presidio.
he was criticised
for his weak acting in the Presidio by Sean Connery who played the titular character :-)
NCIS started
up again on FX after a break. I'm now puzzled over how good an actor he is. I never even thought to question his acting before. I just assumed he was good as he seemed to fit the role like a glove. Now the seed of doubt has been planted and I'm now very unsure. Perhaps he's a bad actor playing a role that plays well to his unreacting stiffness?
That's a fair point
Which I concede. Jude Law, Ed Harris etc as Russians speaking English. As does Connery in Hunt for Red October.
All well and good. But they're entertainments made primarily for english speaking audiences so disbelief must be suspended by default. If I was an actor and I had played the sub commander on Hunt for Red October he'd have had a Geordie accent.
In Highlander though he was a foreign character speaking English in a British setting. For the sake of verisimilitude I might have expected a little range from the guy to flavour his dialogue with some sort of believable accent.
Or - perhaps in a back story - his character may have spent the past 60 years living in Scotland, which would explain it! Connery doesn't though.
'Allo 'Allo
I always thought it was clever in 'Allo 'Allo where they talked in ridiculous French accents when supposed to be French people speaking English, and in their normal accents when supposed to be speaking French.
They inherited that from
They inherited that from Private Schultz, where Germans speaking German spoke in English RP accents, and in ridiculous German accents when speaking English.
Bad directors = Bad actors?
I would ague that a lot of the actors mentioned have turned in great performances in lesser seen films, and that it sometimes takes a great director to realise an actor's potential.
Nicolas Cage for example has been incredibly bad in countless big blockbusters e.g. Knowing, The Wicker Man etc.. Yet when working with the likes of David Lynch in Wild At Heart he can be incredibly good. The same goes for Mark Wahlberg, who is outstanding in Boogie Nights, but for the majority of his career has been stuck with the lead role in big dumb action films, a role in which he seems to struggle.
Ewan McGregor
I suppose he was pretty good in Trainspotting and Big Fish, but other than that, maybe his choice of roles has been the problem. He just isn't believable to me. It's a pity because when interviewed he always seems like a really likeable person.
His Obi-Wan is a travesty.
Alec Guiness was the man.
Whilst on Star Wars - Hayden Christiensen's Anakin Skywalker was bl**dy awful! Both he, and McGregor have been improved by their animated versions.
Natalie Portman is hot in either format... sigh.
Hayden Christiensen
I know! It was a truly terrible turn.
In his defence,
Shallow Grave was brilliant, and Ewan MacGregor was pretty good I thought.
Yep. Shallow Grave - good movie.
McGregor is also good in Brassed Off with the divine Tara Fitzgerald & the brilliant Pete Postlethwaite.
Other way round for me
McGregor comes across as a smarmy hit to me, but he generally acts ok.
Young Adam does it for me. Cracking movie with Tilda Swinton opposite EMc.
Catherine Tate
acts like she only went up for the part as a laugh and now can't believe she's got it.
Catherine Tate
Having watched her in Doctor Who, she can quite obviously act and is actually rather good, in my opinion.
I agree. I thought she was
I agree. I thought she was very good in Doctor Who and going back to watch her comedy show after that has made me enjoy it much more.
Cruise Control
Can't believe nobody's mentioned our Tom,truly bloody awful in every thing he's done except maybe Magnolia,a statistical blip perhaps.Jessica Alba,two expressions,slightly puzzled and gormless plus a pout.Scarlett Johansson,so pale you can see right through her.David what's his name,played and I use the term played advisedly,Angel,a wardrobe with hair,when he appears it's like someone's thrown a plank onto the set.Vinnie Jones oh dear.What's next Gazza in a remake of Dirty Harry,pet.
tom cruise!!!
Oh god, you are so right - guaranteed to ruin any film he's in. Anyone seen him eating that apple in 'few good men'? - his lack of presence and gravitas is truly a thing to behold. The Scientology hard stare...
Bad films
I think he's OK as an actor but most of the films he's been in have been tedious and unimaginative.
Risky Business
was an early peak, lots of dross since but his cameo in Tropic Thunder was eye-poppingly good (and pant-wettingly funny).
K Mart sucks
Are you kidding? It was Cruise, and not Dustin Hoffman that carried "Rain Man"!
I don't think you need a big range to carry a film convincingly, or even be convincing to carry a film convincingly(!); look at John Wayne.
Sometimes you just need to turn up and do your thing; Tom Cruise's thing used to be that bigger-than-life overweening yard-of-teeth 80's yuppie schtick, and he did it better than anybody because that's who he was (as we learned to our peril).
Well, now you mention it
Sylvester Stallone - redefined wooden
Charles Bronson - removed the acting part from the job altogether
Roger Moore - perma-smirking pretty boy
Nicholas Cage, while truly awful, doesn't really achieve these levels of tripe....
No mentions of Stephen Seagal and Jean-CLaude Vann Damm so far. Odd.
Daniel Craig at least looks like he'd be a dangerous individual. And Connery has charm by the bucket.
Here we go
Not all actors per se but they took the money and have equity cards so they are fair game.
1) Mike Holoway- From The Tomorrow People. So Wooden he once played a set of Goalposts in Grange Hill and one for patrick,wait till you see him play Zach Zola in Minder.
2) David Essex- even in That'll be the Day,you can see the wood despite the trees.
3)Anyone involved with Eldorado.
4)Alex Casanovas, A Catalan actor who has one expression and never knows which camera to look at.. He once hosted a TV masterclass on Acting. Not available on YouTube or DVD.
5)Robin Askwith-Another who played himself and couldn't do that well.
agree on a lot of the above
, especially regarding Nic Cage, complete and utter bollox. Been rewatching Deadwood recently. Great performances but Powers Booth's turn as Cy Tolliver stinks up the place. Just awful.
How about the goddawful Renee Zellweger and Sandra bloody Bullock
Also agree largely...
..but some of those mentioned occasionally pull a decent performance out of nowhere.For what it's worth I think Nic did a good turn as "Hi" in Raising Arizona,and Stallone(who's films I usually avoid) pleasantly surprised as "Freddie" in Copland.
Soap actors: a defence
I seem to remember a chap from Eastenders saying that the acting audition consisted of just a chat, in order to see how much the 'actor' was like the envisaged character. Working six days a week - using scripts that are knocked off daily with a eye on ratings - isn't going to allow for much method acting or nuanced delivery.
I've never agreed with the idea that soaps are inherently evil, as some of the writing in Corrie, for example, is brilliant, when you consider that it's not taking months to write an hour of dialogue: it's churned out to order.
For what it's worth, the type of actors who make me vomit are the ones who talk about their characters 'going on a journey', and speak about them as if they were real people.
But what actually defines a good actor? While it's easy to spot the difference between the Beatles and that git with his guitar in your local, there surely isn't a chasm of difference in talent between Hugh Grant and the bloke who plays Phil in 'Enders. Al Pacino is considered, by some, to ge the greatest actor of his generation; to me, he just shouts a lot. Conversely, Ian Hart convincingly played John Lennon and Dr. Watson, and he's never going to win an oscar.
It's a question of taste
My mother's definition of 'good acting' is my definition of 'hideous hamming'. What if the actor is playing a wooden character? Does the actor get slammed for being wooden, or praised for doing wooden so well? I would go for the subtly understated performance every time.
My candidate for worst actor is Marlon Brando. Totally hopeless.
Richard Gere and Mel Gibson
R Gere - the most over rated Hollywood A-lister in history. He has just two expressions: happiness and being pissed off. When he's portraying the second he does that thing where he stands still for a second and closes his eyes. fugging useless!
Mel Gibson - loved the movie overall but his performance in Braveheart was so camped up. That bit when he's talking tough to the English Commander "everyone of you will die today (delivered in Austral-ottish)". oh my god. hammed up or what?
thought he was brilliant
really sinister in Internal Affairs
actors are employed
to be themselves, surely?
Actors are employed to be themselves????
Not a casting director, by any chance, are you James?
For my Scottish friends
Have you ever seen anything even approaching a watchable performance in River City? I assume this isn't shown south of the border.
No
RC is cack.
BRIIIAAN BLESSSSSSED!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOUTINGG ISN'T AAACTING! BUT I STILLLL LIKE HIIM! And Kenneth More couldn't play anyone with two legs.
Let's not forget
the distinction between actors and movie stars. A movie star is hired to be the same in every movie; Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart. An actor needs to be more versatile; Robert Duvall, Tilda Swinton.
Actors/movie stars
I think we invent this distinction to make ourselves feel better. I think Humphrey Bogart was just as good an actor as, say, Robert Duvall is. What changed in the Fifties was the arrival of a different acting style. Before Brando/Dean/Strasberg, mainstream movie stars tended to be far more stylised, and not really concerned with moments of naturalism. Yet what James Stewart does in Vertigo, say, or what Bogart does in The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre is certainly acting in my book. However, once naturalism became the norm, we as audiences started to judges actors not on their charisma, command or screen presence - or even on their subtle depictions of character - but on whether or not we believed it. I think this is a rather damaging way to look at something creative; and I won't repeat my reality TV/rats' brains rant from a few weeks ago.
Orson Welles put it rather well in an interview he gave some years back. He maintained that the greatest screen actor of all was James Cagney: to look at him, he could often seem way over the top and utterly theatrical. But, not only do you buy everything he does on film, there was a truth - as opposed to realism - about everything that he did.
Try this at about 1.10:
Equally
Michael Caine - mentioned above, who goes to some lengths to explain in interviews that appearing to be 'himself' on screen is harder than it looks... You are surrounded by cameras, mics, lights, crew, generators, and all manner of other gubbins. You do take after take, all the time trying to appear 'natural' and in character... You shoot the story out of sequence, you keep weird hours... I know the rewards are high, and it isn't a 'proper' job, but it's not an easy job - but actors like MC make it *look* easy.
Sean Bean
So wooden that in our household we say that he went to the Arnold Laver School of Acting (Lavers being the local timber merchant).
A man of a thousand voices
unfortunately all of them from Sheffield!
(Courtesy of Before They Were Famous).
Apparently he trained at RADA.
Seen Been
I thought he did a good job as Boromir in the first Lord Of The Rings film. Suitably swashbuckling, and rather touching at times. He was believably vile in Essex Boys too. He may not be a world-beater, but there are many, many much worse actors.
Never had a problem with Sean Bean
Particularly not in The Lord Of The Rings. It's difficult to look bad next to Orloomdo Bland.
Saw him interviewed
on our local BBC station and he didn't appear to know the name of his character in Lord of The Rings. I think he had just come out of the pub to be fair.
I may be a little biased as he's the FPO's main heartthrob and he's also a Blade's supporter.
Eastenders
Cafe owner Ali.
Pete Beale.
Ian Beale.
Mark Fowler AKA Todd Carty:
Girlfriend of Mark - "Are you angry Mark?"
"Yes! I AM angry!"
"Who are you angry with?"
(Mark raises fist, flares nostrils) "Everyone!"
...long pause...
Mark (drops head) "No-one."
dum dum d-d-d-dum ...
They were shocking. Pete
They were shocking. Pete Beale has to be the worst of all the actors however. I thought Todd Carty was good in Grange Hill, (but then again I was only 9 at the time), but dreadful in Eastenders and The Bill.
He was brilliant
as Man Who Can't Skate for Toffee in Dancing on Ice - pure Method.
Cannot watch
any film with Nicholas Caage in, he is pure cack
Is he
Nicolas Cage's Dutch cousin?
I like Nic Cage
I guess he's made some bad films but to be honest, I've steered clear of them.
His good films, though? Wow. Wild at Heart, Raising Arizona, Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, Con Air, Bringing out the Dead, Face/Off. I liked Matchstick Men and Lord of War, too. In fact the only film of his I've seen that I didn't like was Adaptation.
Yes , he's been in good films
It's just that someone else should have played his part in all of them.
Incidentally, what about Julian Sands? Never has a man played a creep so many times, so convincingly - but not in a good way.
Another up for Nic Cage
And it's been well over twenty years since I saw it, but wasn't he pretty good in Birdy?
And another...
Captain Correlli's Mandolin...need I say more?
The guy who played Tiffany's Dad in EastEnders had a better comedy Italian accent in 'Allo 'Allo as Captain Bertorelli.
'Wadda mistake-a to make-a!'
THIS. IS. SPARTA!
Gerard Butler. It's worth going to see Law Abiding Citizen just to see how bad he can be. Appalling, truly appalling.
Jennifer Aniston
The ultimate one trick pony. Dunno if it's bad scripts, lousy casting or just her Innate solipsism but she's done nothing of merit since "Friends'.
Anniston
Not a fan but thought she was OK in (if I'm remembering correctly) She's The One.Was that what it was called? Ed Burns re-visitng Brothers McMullen territory,but I liked it.
Agreed
There are far worse than her out there, plus she will always be typecast after being so successful.
Nick Berry....
Every Loser Wins hit maker, Wicksy in EastEnders and something similar in Heartbeat & Harbour Lights.
So wooden, that Sting ran a campaign to save the forests that were used to build Nick Berry. There was also a scurrilous rumour floating around that all Nick Berry's parts had to have "ick" in part of the characters name so Mr Berry would not be confused when reading the script. I have no idea whether this would be true.
Val Kilmer
A truly awful actor. He did momentarily appear to have the ability to act (eg: Tombstone), but then normal service resumed.
Tombstone was actually very good when you consider the cast - Jason Priestley, Billy Zane, Kurt Russell, Harry Connick Jnr, Michael Rooker etc etc
It should have been dire!
He's had some good ones......
Personally thought he was excellent as Jim Morrison in Stone's biopic and was a better Batman than Clooney.
He was
Good fun in kiss kiss bang bang as a gay private eye.
Russell Crowe in Gladiator
A major ham. Talk about overacting. I laughed when he won that Oscar. It was a performance that wouldn't have been out of place in Jason & The Argonauts.
He's okay in other stuff though, if a little intense. He thinks he's Brando.
Howards' Way
From the BBC back in 1985. It's the first thing I remember watching where the acting seemed so bad - I was a fairly uncritical viewer up to that point. The late Maurice Colbourne stands out in my memory as being the most plank like, but there was plenty of competition.
More Wood
on screen than in the boatyard.Good Shout,Fortuneight
The Crowe
I agree with Five-Centres, Russell Crowe is painful to watch/listen to in movies and interviews. The guy is under the illusion he's the most important actor that ever walked the planet. Can't wait to see his portrayal of Robin Hood (NOT). Maybe they should cast him in a remake of The Ego Has Landed.
Robin Hood...
or as it will be known, "Maximus Goes To Nottingham"
As already flagged
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/dec/23/robin-hood-russell-crowe-trai...
But to be fair, Scott and Crowe are unapologetic about it. I'm sure it will be pretty good.
Russell Crowe
is bloody good in L.A. Confidential and The Insider.
William Baldwin in Sliver is the worst acting
atrocity ever committed on film. He was clearly too big a jerk to play the character's weaknesses, so instead just insensitively bulldozed over them and played him as confident great guy.
For example: In the book the character reveals his spying room to the Sharon Stone character. He is very, very nervous about her reaction. Will she think he's a pervert, a weirdo etc? In the film he casually mentions, "Oh by the way, I'm a massive pervert who films my tenants. Go in there and look at my screens", then turns away to continue doing whatever it is he's doing without any trace of concern or tension about how she will react.
anyone mentioned de niro
anyone mentioned de niro yet? i'll give him mean streets and the king of comedy but as for the rest (including his supposedly great roles; taxi driver, goodfellas, raging bull, casino) he just plays this one dimensional cut out and keep character - utterly unconvincing in almost everything and as for being the best actor of his generation? he makes al pacino look subtle! so he put on 20 stone for raging bull and got a six pack for cape fear? gimmicks! give me brian dennehy any day
Pish posh.......
One gander at Godfather Part II illustrates De Niro's blazing talent.
Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, Heat, Goodfellas - anything but one dimensional in my opinion.
But alas pissed away his legacy with the risible Analyse That and Meet the Parents.
Agreed
In the early days he was superb, unfortunately his quality control went kapput when he started to make too many films to fund his Tribeca business interests.
Bob
Almost leapt to his defence there citing Midnite Run in support of my arguement.However before I touched a key the realisation dawned that Charles Grodin and most of the other "supporting" actors made the film what it is.And i never liked Mean Streets either.
Late entry - Above Suspicion
Have just got round to watching my recordings of this 3 prt TV drama. Kelly Reilly is a handsome looking woman, and maybe it's the way it's written, but she plays the part of DC Travis with an emotional range that doesn't even quite run from A to B. Sadly the rest of the cast are little better - straight out of the "Spooks / Hermione Norris - I'm scowling beacuase it's serious" book of acting. Shame really as she was quite good in Cold Feet
I can never tell whether
I can never tell whether Nicholas Cage is a bad actor, or I'm just being too distracted by his chosen hairpiece to notice...
let's differentiate
between bad actors (Reeves, Richard "blinking" Gere and the bland non-entity talent vacuum that is Chad Michael Murray from One Tree Hill)
and actors that are the same in every film.
All actors have mannerisms that follow them from film to film even great ones. In fact the only actor I can think of that doesn't is Daniel Day Lewis. I recognised nothing of his previous performances in his mesmeric madmen in "Gangs Of New York" and "There Will Be Blood". All actors are puppets otherwise...
An unholy troika
David Hasselhof, Lee Majors and Lindsay Anderson. Each one like John Wayne on mogadons.