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ATM - Popularity equals best - discuss.

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Whilst on the iTunes store I noticed how many bands' most popular songs were not my particular favorite. However, there were one or two exceptions such as Fool's Gold and Hey Jude. How many do other members agree with on iTunes, Spotify and other similar sites ?

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It's music, enjoyment of it is subjective.

That is all from me.

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BernkastelCues | 20 January 2012 - 12:04pm

Amen

Do I listen to songs because they're popular? No. Do other people? Yes. Is this of a great concern? Not particularly. Unless of course one distracts from the other. If some eejit with an iPhone decides to play some Skrillex through hideously tinny phone speakers gets in the way of me listening to Massive Attack, I will not be impressed. At all. Just for future reference and all that. :)

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badger_king | 20 January 2012 - 12:11pm

Nah.

I don't think there's a very reliable link between popularity and greatness, since we can all think of hundreds of records that should've been huge and weren't, and corresponding countless thousands that were hugely popular and shite.

People who automatically acclaim things on the grounds of popularity should probably have a bit of a think about that. But by the same token, people who write off the tastes of the masses equally automatically should probably have a word with themselves too.

That said, I think if a song is very popular for a long time, it's worth thinking about why that is, and giving it its due, even if we don't like it too much.

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Bob | 20 January 2012 - 12:19pm

The most popular is the best

is an argument often encountered.

It's crap - it means Eastenders is better than Shakespeare, Baked Beans on toast is the best food ever, and Shuttup-you-face is better than....well a hell of a lot of good stuff. The best car of the last 30 years was the Ford Fiesta. Titanic is the best film ever made - Avatar the second best.

Elitist ? If you want to call it that, I don't care - you take S-Club 7, I'll have the Byrds.

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Slick | 20 January 2012 - 12:18pm

and worst of all it means

The Sun is the best newspaper in Britain

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Jon Whitney | 20 January 2012 - 12:42pm

Titanic

I know people who name that as their favourite film of all time. One of my best mates saw that in the cinema at the time and raved about it for weeks.

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SimonL | 20 January 2012 - 12:47pm

If they brought back bear-baiting and public executions

the ratings would be huge. More outrageously, Waterloo Road is watched by about four times more people than The Killing. The general public are pretty good at being wrong about most things.

As Kent Brockman said, democracy doesn't work.

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Moose the Mooche | 20 January 2012 - 12:57pm

"We" worry...

...that our good taste is in the minority. Do "they" agonise over whether, although "they" are in the majority, what "they" like is a pile of shit? Do "they" think, "I know this is not very good, but I really like it and so do most people"? Or do "they" just think it's good. Yeah, I guess they just think it's good. Which is why I, like Jon W, find the great, continuing success of "The Sun" depressing. What's worse, it's written and edited by intelligent journalists who know damned well what they're doing. And it's apparently what "they" want. "We" must face it - 95% of us are "them".

*mentally pours XXXL vodka and Ovaltine to deaden pain"

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madfox | 20 January 2012 - 1:41pm

"And who are they? The wizards?"

Classic Bill Bailey.

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badger_king | 20 January 2012 - 8:28pm

Popular clearly not

Necessarily the best but it's not necessarily worst either.

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daddyclark | 20 January 2012 - 2:01pm

Slightly contrarian view

Popular equalling best doesn't always work at the macro level. As referenced above, that means shit television is better than The Bard.

However, at the micro level, I think it's more viable. There's an argument - particularly with the less populist acts - that the people rating the music are a little more informed and cognoscenti. There may be a better correlation between popularity and quality there.

Of course, the popularity and quality is a) subjective and b) reflects the opinions of a large number of people. A and B do not always sync.

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sitheref2409 | 20 January 2012 - 2:25pm

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Retro Man | 20 January 2012 - 4:38pm

Sometimes

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Mark JF | 20 January 2012 - 5:00pm

Fairly easy

Westlife
The Beatles

One good AND popular, the other popular but not good. I'll leave you to work out which is which. No correlation whatsoever.

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illuminatus | 20 January 2012 - 5:18pm

Never had you down

As a west life fan! ;)

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daddyclark | 20 January 2012 - 5:32pm

Actually

I should apologise. I reckon mentioning Westlife on this forum is like the Massive equivalent of Godwin's Law.

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illuminatus | 20 January 2012 - 5:40pm
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