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ATM - How to burn CDs with track titles
Posted by fortuneight on 22 June 2011 - 10:18am.
I've noticed that some clever types have produced CDs for exchange at Mingles that have either embedded TOC data, or CD text. I'd like to be able to do the same thing - burn a CD so that if you slap it into iTunes or WMP, the artists and track names come up. I think this comes form the TOC data (but I'm not sure).
Can anyone steer me towards a means of doing this, in Windows?
Ta.
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There is a selection field
in itunes when you burn playlist to CD that allows you to include cd text data - put a tick in that box. I can't be specific on the exact way of doing it as I'm on a work pc with no itunes. It was fairly noticeable (it must have been - I noticed it) within the process of burning a playlist to a cd.
Also...
...you can submit your CD track names to the Gracenote database so that iTunes recognises it when someone else loads it.
That's in the Advanced drop-down at the top, under "Submit CD Track Names".
Gracenote
Do you, or does anyone else, know if the genres on Gracenote can be changed? Not for my personal use as I can simply edit the field.
Some of them are so far off beam that they need to be corrected and I also get fed up with the General classification that pops up. If its rock its rock, if its folk its folk. Calling something General Rock or General Folk seems to me to be mealy-mouthed.
Not immediately, but...
Gracenote only allows for a limited set of genres. However once you have the CD details on your own iTunes on your PC then you are not constrained to live with them but you (or the other guy at the other end) can alter them as you like.
Frowned on
That notion is frowned on though. As it is with Freedb.org. If everyone uploaded details of their compilation discs the search facilities would be severely compromised (There's no point in knowing that a track that has never been available on CD was, in fact, ripped from a tape and put on Kevin's 1st compilation CD!) also the more CDs in the database, the less the chance of the one you put in generating a unique ID code.
Two things
1) I'm not sure I give a monkeys if it's "frowned upon", sorry to say. Largely because:
2) The chances of someone creating a compilation that's identical to one of mine are very very tiny indeed.
If they don't want people to use it, they shouldn't offer the submission service.
But But But
They do make it clear what the submission service is for, and adding your own compilations is specifically mentioned as a no go area. Also, the fact that more than one album pops up when you insert a CD is of far less consequence than the skewing of searches although I don't think you can search from the gracenote site anymore (I think there are applications that allow you to) you can do so on freedb.org and it's very annoying when search results include those of selfish people that haven't read the rules.
Clear?
Not from where I'm sitting. Most people only know the Gracenote database in the context of an iTunes menu, and selecting that option doesn't give you any "Please proceed with caution" messages.
If Gracenote don't like it, I suggest they ask Apple to take that option out of iTunes, because there's nothing there to suggest that "Submit CD Track Names" is anything other than a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
Fair Enough
It never occurred to me that people would not go to Gracenote or Freedb first. I guess that's the reality though. When I started using CDDB about 13 years ago it was the website that you started with and as ripping to MP3 was still some way off for most of us, the main thing was that it properly identified my discs and was a useful search facility. It doesn't stop it being antisocial putting on your own compilations.
On iTunes (10.x Mac)
When you select Burn to Disc on a playlist, the Burn Settings dialog box that pops up includes a check box for "Include CD Text" in the Audio CD section.
Tick it and the job's done.
Haven't got a Windows iTunes to hand but I'm fairly sure it's exactly the same there.
On MediaMonkey
I use MediaMonkey on my PC and it has a similar 'include CD text' option. It amazes my sister, who's used to all the CDs she puts on in her car showing up as 'Track01' etc - even the bought ones.
Indeed...
..it is quite annoying when a compilation cd you get goes into itunes and just comes up with "Track01" etc.
Can you burn this (the track's individual) data into a cd without submitting to Gracenote?
In iTunes: Yea
submitting to Gracenote isn't automatic - "Submit CD Track Names" appears as an option in the Advanced menu, so there's nothing stopping you importing lossless, adding the CD Text info and then burning back to another disc without touching Gracenote at all.
Yes you can
I dont submit the text of any of my compilation cd's to Gracenote but whenever I burn a disc it always has the tracklist information.
Windows Media Player
currently doesn't support the CD-Text standard when you use it to burn discs (as with all previous versions), so you'll need to use something else if you want CD-Text.
Nero or iTunes will do it (lots of Windows machines come with the basic version of Nero pre-installed and iTunes is just a (gigantic) download away). Plenty of other more basic free disc-burning programs support it too. Google for "free disc burning software" (keep the quotes).
Does media player...
...query the Gracenote database?
"If you are online...
...when you copy a CD, Windows Media Player connects to the Windows Media metadata service and gets whatever information is available about that CD" it says here in "Windows 7 Inside Out" from Microsoft Press.
That probably means they've contracted it to somebody out-of-house. I can't see them bothering compiling their own database and if so, they don't credit them in the book. Perhaps it mentions them somewhere under "About Media Player" on the program's help menu.
I don't use WMP myself, I use Media Monkey, the full paid-for version, though it sometimes seems a bit flaky on W7 compared to on XP.
Try
Burrrn.
It's free and supports CD text.
Thanks for all the replies
I knew that iTunes could burn CDs but I never took the time to find out how; I'm not much of a builder of playlists either. But I can now see how you add CD text and even print a track list. And I've downloaded Burrrn to try out as well.
speaking of which =word cd
it would be great if the word cd had track details embedded-really handy as you slip it enthusiastically in the car cd player and cant look at the cover to correlate