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Are there ever any circumstances that justify changing the football team you support?
Posted by fortuneight on 4 March 2010 - 12:23pm.
Neil Warnock is appointed your manager? You sign Craig Bellamy?
Despite years of misery and mediocrity I've never been able to shift my allegiance away from Upton Park. But maybe I'm missing the point. Anyone else ever changed sides?
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You coud change country
After I moved to Spain , 20 odd years ago, I adopted a new team , Atletico Madrid, Real's crappier, poorer, humbler and more chaotic neighbours. These have now supplanted my former love of Arsenal, although i still have a soft spot for the Gooners
Not for me
I'll always support Liverpool. For better, for worse.
I don't know if I'd've stopped following the Reds...
...but my allegiance would have been tested had they followed-up their interest in the simply ghastly Lee Bowyer by actually signing him.
Having Ken Bates as a
Having Ken Bates as a chairman can test your loyalty, having seen some terrible yobbish acts carried out in the name of Leeds United can test your loyalty, cheering on Lee Bowyer whilst clearly guilty can question your sanity but no, I was handpicked by Don Revie to be a Leeds United supporter (not customer as the ticket office insist on calling mke) and, for worse I shall remain so. For heaven's sake I finally saw them win at Old Trafford, can't possibly change now.
A Leeds supporters fate.
It is a Leeds fans destiny to be disappointed.
As a result I have not been let down for many many years.
I think it's all tied up with Catholic guilt and taking pleasure from looking at girls and all that.
It could be worse I could be Woody Allen or be a Man Utd. supporter.
For me,
changing my football team would be like changing my head. Can't be done, no matter how much grief and despondency your team heaps on you.
It's not as if you choose which team to support. In my experience, it's the team that chooses you.
What if your team changes the sport it plays..
.. what then? QPR seem to have stopped playing footy and taken up a form of managerial tag team wrestling
Buddhism
Supporting a team is just a form of attachment, so I guess if you became a Buddhist you could rid yourself of it.
Having spent a few years
posting on a football forum and having witnessed first hand the unrelenting criticism, cursing and cussing that befell a chap who decided to switch his allegiance from Man Utd to Arsenal I would suggest that the answer to your question is a definite 'no'.
One less Surrey Manc?
What a top man with good taste he is!! Deserves to be lauded to the rooftops.
Surely that's the point
All those years of mediocrity and outright thrashings you suffer make that cup run, 1-0 fluky win on a wet Tuesday night over your bitter and hated rivals all the more worthwhile and sweet.
Mind you, Craig Bellamy would stretch my loyalty to almost breaking point!!
I still support Spurs
despite them appointing Harry Redknapp. In fairness, he's done a good job and deserves congratulations. But I don't like him.
I support Spurs
but I'm quite 'appy with 'arry.
Unlike 'MRC.
Harry..
The trouble with Harry is that he seems to be very good at convincing club chairmen to spend money they cannot possibly afford. This makes it look as if he is doing a great job and then he jumps ship just before the finances go haywire.
I really wouldn't want him anywhere near my club.
I'm sure all Pompey fans
Wish him well with his forthcoming encounter with m'learned friends!!
I think that
criticism is a load of bollocks to be perfectly honest. If a chairman hasn't the nous or the business sense to know how much his club can afford to give his manager to buy players then it's his look-out. Redknapp will have asked for as much as he could get his hands on but as he doesn't actually run the club he's hardly going to know one way or another if the club can afford the amount he's asked for. It's not his responsibility.
To me this criticism smacks of hypocrisy. Man Utd and Liverpool are run at massive debts and the likes of Chelsea and Citeh have the benefit of a sugar-daddy. The standard line seems to be that you have to spend the money to be able to push up the table but apparently it's the manager's fault if he follows that creed and the club's owners get into financial difficulty.
Complete clap-trap.
Yes and no
Man U are a different case. Until the Glaziers took over they ran no debt at all, everything was paid for and all of a sudden thanks to the stock exchange rules these predators come in, buy the club with vast loans and dump the debt onto the club! Don't get me wrong, I've no love for Man U but they found themselves in a situation that wasn't of their making.
Harry knew what was going on, buying a load of junk for inflated prices and mega wages, gambling on midto upper table survival. When a snake oil salesman like HR convinces a chairman this East European defender is going to get the club into Europe a chairman will usually believe and trust him and write the cheque.
Hang on a minute
Redknapp did get Pompey into Europe and brought them silverware to boot. I still don't buy into this vilification of Redknapp because of the subsequent investigations into his dealings with Mandaric. I don't for one minute think Redknapp is as pure as the driven snow and that there's no smoke without fire but there's more speculation than proof when it comes to his tenure at Pompey and many disgruntled fans seem to be looking for any cock-and-bull story on which they can hang their grievances because rumours sell papers. Redknapp's the devil because he walked out on Pompey twice so therefore all the financial problems must be because he twisted the arm of the chairman to spend more money than he had. Yeah. Right.
Spurs are, financially speaking, a well run club and despite the criticisms that have been levied at Levy over the years (the sacking of Jol was a disgrace) I don't for one minute expect him to roll over and show his tummy just because Redknapp asks for £10M for an "East European defender". You take on Redknapp with your eyes open but given the number of clubs with whom Redknapp has no prior connection that are fighting administration or are teetering it seems odd that he's the one manager in town who apparently is the cause of a particular club's debt and mismanagement.
Redknapp
He's not nicknamed Bungpuss for nothing.
Very true...
West Ham, Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Southampton...common link = good ol' 'arry...Spurs fans beware administration and a 10 point deduction could come into place just when you clinch that magical fourth spot!
Funny that all the brown envelope manufacturers also went bust in East London Hampshire & Dorset.
Yes, but ..
.. I don't think you can blame West Ham on 'arry. I think that Icelandic Gnome might have had something to do with it.
Since I moved to Das Vaterland
I support Munich's third club, SpVgg Unterhaching. (Especially as my terrace season ticket works out at €5,80 a game.)
My 'real' team is Bolton Wanderers – this is only going to be a problem if their paths ever cross. Highly unlikely, but you never know …
well if they cease to exist
you probably have to do something then. Pompey anyone?
No
You can adopt a secondary, local team if you move if you must (it is, of course, assumed that your primary alegiance belongs to someone whose ground was fairly close to you when you were 8 years old).You can change your politcal views, renege on your marriage vows and apostasise you religion but you're stick with your team for life.
When I was a boy...
... my best friend's dad was from Nottingham, and supported Forest. So my pal supported Forest, and I decided to as well.
Bearing in mind I live in Somerset, but for a good 5 or 6 years I watched and supported them from afar.
But, then, when I was about 9, Forest got relegated from the Premier League; their matches weren't on Tele anymore, I couldn't watch them, and was really too young to enjoy reading about them. I changed teams; ever since then I've supported Yeovil.
Still have a soft spot for them. But that was a genuine change, which I don't think is too shameful.
Craig Bellamy
I'm a West Ham fan too and whilst I think Bellamy is a bit of a prick, when he played for us he was our prick so I quite liked him.
Having had Bellamy
and Bowyer on our books (twice), and acting as a retirement home for Dyer there were times when we seemed to have more pricks than a porcupine farm. But it could be worse I suppose - we could have Lampard Jnr, Terry, Cole (Ashley, not that nice Joe) and Ballack.
Don't Forget..
The charming Julian Dicks...
Conflicted F.C.
As a little lad my Dad took me to see Everton. This was late-'70s / early-'80s, when they were rubbish, and after a while my Dad must've decided to try to stop convincing me otherwise, as we stopped going. A couplem of years later (around age 9) I drifted into going to Anfield with my mates - I could afford tickets on my pocket money, and crucially wasn't short of people to go the match with. LFC were winning EVERYTHING, and had Kenny Dalglish... looking back it seems almost inevitable.
However. Despite all the cups & league titles, I couldn't muster up any real passion for LFC, and gradually lost interest in watching football altogether. This period of success for LFC was reflected by the same for EFC, which conflicted my nascent teenage emotions further. Probably I was just too young to know my own mind, which seems kind of tragic, but feasible given my age.
*Anyway*, about ten years ago a mate started dragging me to Goodison again to watch Everton games. It felt like going back home - I think deep down I just need to side with the underdog. So now I'd class myself as an Evertonian, albeit I'm not the most avid supporter. I probably would be more committed if I didn't carry with me this horrible Catholic guilt about doing the whole "switcheroo".
My point being? You can change your team, but also, you can't. Because once you do, it's really difficult to go back.
Catholic?
Everton? Shurely shome mishtake
*Sigh* Yeah but no but yeah
Have a read of this if you're that interested...
http://www.toffeeweb.com/fans/beingblue/religion.asp
In a nutshell:
Everton were formed from St Domingo's Boy's Club - St Domingo's being a Methodist church.
Liverpool were formed from Everton - the famous 'split' of 1892.
Ergo, both clubs' origins are essentially Protestant, reinforced by the Masonic origins of most of the city's (and both clubs') forefathers.
The article goes on:
Amen to that last sentence.
Good call...
...the same thing has happened in Manchester for some reason. Untied were a Railwayman's team (founded by a Scouser) although St Marks Ardwick (CofE) founded City.
I was taken to a Brentford game...
... when I was 10 and went regularly the next season. When I started secondary school in Hammersmith, I went to a few Fulham games with some new school friends, I think I got swept up in the "upgrade" from the 4th division to the 2nd and ended up a Fulham regular for the next couple of seasons until the family moved away from London.
When I lived in Cheltenham, I saw the Robins a couple of times in their non-league days. When I moved to Cambridge I saw United a couple of times, too.
But now, despite being 6,000 miles from London, thanks to technology and Rupert Murdoch I can watch Fulham as well as half a dozen other live Premiership games every weekend.
I must be an exception
If you are an armchair supporter then I guess there is never any reason to change your team, but if you actually go to games then it seems obvious to me that you end up supporting the team you watch week in week out.
I have therefore changed teams whenever I have moved. So it was Leeds from 1967 to about 1977. Then Coventry from 77 to about 2003 and since then it has been Malaga. Admittedly the change was never instant. It takes 2 or 3 years for the loyalty to diminish as familiar players and managers move on and the bonds that tie you are weakened.
Although I still check Coventry's results every week I probably couldn't name more than a couple of their players. In contrast, I could (and do) hold forth for hours about Malaga's players, tactics and performances. Yet I know that if I move again it won't be too long before they are replaced in my affections by whichever is the local team that I will be going to watch.
There is a saying...
Evertonians are Born Not Manufactured
We do not Choose; We are Chosen
Those who Understand Need No Explanation
Those That Don't Understand Don't Matter
Not how I heard it
In my (uniformy red) household it was "when you're born they put you on a bannister and let you slide down. If you stay on to the bottom you're Liverpool, if you fall off half way you're Everton".
No
... but if "Colin" is ever appointed as your club's manager, you are more than justified in sending in your season ticket and asking for your money back. He is anti-football.
Newcastle
I don't want to change. I couldn't anyway.
And even if I could - I couldn't.
Are you one of those..
Who believe that Shearer is the answer whatever the question?
No Chance
Kieron Dyer, Craig Bellamy, Lee Bowyer, Souness, The FCB... (I could go on).
Nothing would ever make me change, not even that lot - they are just passing thru' - I'm here till I pop my clogs.
Never, never, never, never........
Supported QPR for 38 of my 40 years on this planet. Despite working at a Premier League football club, will never ever ever change. It's sacrilege.
Come on you Super Hoooopsaaaaaaaaaa
A famous switcher of teams
was David Mellor. From Fulham to Chelsea if I remember. Says a lot about the type of lowlife who could consider such behaviour.
As my cousin says - wives are temporary, Wolves are permanent.
Tim Lovejoy
I'm sure I read somewhere that this national treasure switched from Watford to Chelsea.
He claims to support both.
For a real 'celebrity' football lion Judas, look no further than Zoe Ball who switched allegiance from Liverpool to some team near Manchester...
While we're talking Lovejoy
I'd like to draw your attention to this: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/145/29/
No.
Change your religion,divorce your wife but stop loving your club,Never!
No way
Saw my first Swansea City game when I was nine and I'm still there as a season ticket holder aged 39. I was ten when we got promoted for the first time in our history to the "top division. A year later we were sixth in the big league after leading the league several times....and then the abyss. It's taken us 27 to get anywhere near the position where we are. Administration (twice), directors illegaly trying to sack our players, winning a trophy at old Wembley, promotions, relegations, playoff wins and defeats. I love my club and wouldn't change anything about them.
You can change your job....
Change your house, change your wife, change your car, even change your sex....But changing your team is beyond the pail.
Until the move from The Marbled Halls of Highbury that was the only place I had kept returning to since I was a small boy.Every other meeting point/place (Doctors,dentist,school etc) had at one time or other changed in my life. Some of the my highest and lowest emotions have been felt watching The Arsenal, sometimes in the same match (Champions Lge Final v Barca, 1979 FA Cup Final v Man Utd, 1968 League Cup Final v Swindon, Nayim from the halfway line, 1971 White Hart Lane winning the League...I could go on)
I could never contemplate another club, that's why I feel for all Portsmouth fans and fans of other teams who are in danger of losing their team.I would not want that for any supporter, even a Sperz one!
I think you'll find
that '68 was against Leeds, not Swindon.
I agree that you can never change your club - and we've been through some times, if you hadn't heard.
MOT
I like football but have never had an attachment to a team
So as I come from East Angelia I look out for the results for both Norwich and Ipswich.
I currently live in Oxford so follow their fortunes and used to live in Leeds and follow them as well.
I guess I am the ultimate "fairweather" fan but have never felt the need to limit my feelings to one particular club.
Is that weird?
Moved to Norwich in
Moved to Norwich in '85.
Moved away in '87.
Still a Canary.
That, and supporting Scotland is almost too much for one man to bear.
Nope.
A football team is for life, not just for trophies.I support Raith Rovers....BUT I stayed in Aberdeen for over 30 years, and have seen the Dandy Dons on hundreds of occassions... the good times (The Fergie years) and the bad (every year since he left)... I have stood and cheered the Men In Red at cup finals, european games (3-2 versus Bayern!!), league games against The Evil Twins from Glesga, but when the odd occassion that Raith came to town, I was in the Away End, supporting The Rovers. Recently, WE beat Aberdeen 1-0 at Pittodrie in The Scottish Cup...I was ecstatic....a personal self inflicted schadenfreude? Perhaps. I will always love Aberdeen, the City, The Football Club, The people, even the climate (well, maybe not) but Raith Rovers are my team.
There Is One Notable Exception
where it's generally considered fine to change clubs.
I refer of course to the reaction of Scottish non-Old Firm fans to any individual who abandons supporting either of the bigotry benefitting twosome.
A notable example is ex Chelsea and Kilmarnock star Pat Nevin who renounced his childhood support of Celtic for Hibs mainly due to his increasing distaste for the club posing as opressed underdogs whilst acting like the rapacious PLC they actually are.
I've never managed to persuade any of my friends to make the journey into the light, no matter how nauseating either organisation becomes, and wonder if any of the Massive have managed it?
Defection in the other direction
This was a completely different angle on what I was just about to write about, i.e. the unacceptable but very common practice in Scotland of deserting your local team for whichever half of the Old Firm you feel more credibly allied to.
Living in Glasgow, and supporting a team in Fife, I drive through there for home games and see lines of buses heading in the opposite direction, taking Fifers to Glasgow to support the Old Firm.
Having said all that, people often seem pleased to meet an Old Firm agnostic in Glasgow. It's not uncommon for me to enjoy the following exchange:
Q: Oh, you're a Dunfermline supporter! Are you from Dunfermline?
A: No, I just chose them to support because they're so successful.
Well I sort of switched
From Southampton (my dad's team) to Charlton (the nearest team when I was a teenager) and back to Southampton again when I ended up living here thirty years ago. Given that both teams ended up in the third division this season, I don't think I can be accused of glory hunting.
Blimey.
This isn't intended as any sort of a criticism - god knows I'm in no position - but being someone who doesn't really "get" sport, this thread is kind of astonishing to me. Speaking as the lamest of laymen, I've never understood why a person wouldn't support their most local team, but that's as far as my view on the subject goes. Other than that, my first thought on seeing this thread was (whisper) "erm... isn't it, um... a... game?"
To which the only sensible answer is "well, isn't pop music JUST music?", to which the answer is "yes", but that doesn't explain why it can be the trigger for almost every emotion a human being is capable of. The thing is, I get music. Even though it's just combinations of sound frequencies and language, it speaks to me on some utterly visceral level. My lizard hindbrain just latches onto it and goes "YES!"
But I've just never been able to see what there is to "get" with football - it really is, in my eyes, no more than 22 unbelievably privileged young men chasing a ball around for rather longer than you'd imagine would be fun. I wish I got it, I really do. Honestly, I'm not trying to be a twat, and certainly not trying to act in any way superior - if anything I feel that I'm missing out, because lots of people seem to get so much from following sport - but I've never, ever been able to get my head into a place where sport, any sport, looks important to me. It just entirely sails over my head, especially the tribal bit.
Nowt s'queer's furk, eh? I must be missing a gene.
Sir Sean
Sean Connery is gently ridiculed in Scotland for apparently shifting his allegiance from Hearts, to Celtic, and then to Rangers.
And on the political front for being the Scottish National Part representative for the consituency of Malaga south.
Vale
There is only one team the rest of are disillusioned Fools, Only kidding.
Vale and Espanyol for me. Can't abide Sjoke or Barça (Don't believe the Hype) and would rather watch roller hockey or 3 day eventing than either of those two and supporting them, Matron ,my revolver please,
Leeds
But I've always lived at the other end of the country. In 1970 they were the biggest team in the land, so I adopted them. There was no sense to it - no way I was ever going to go to Elland Road. I was six!
It would have made more sense to choose Chelsea, who beat Leeds in the cup final a week before my birthday; they were only 90 minutes up the road. Maybe I preferred white to blue.
Anyway, that was me for the next 30 years, even through my home town (Brighton)'s glory years - all right, glory weeks - in the mid '80s. A few years ago I bought a sofa just outside the 18-yard box of the seaward end of the Goldstone Ground (it's a DFS now). Anyone else from round my way would have felt a pang or two about that. I felt nowt. It's not rational or wise. It just is.
There's no divorce. By the 90s I knew I'd made a mistake, could even laugh about it, but couldn't move on. I gave up Leeds by giving up football.
Leeds and I haven't spoken for years (it's not them, it's me) but, even though I've tried, I've never been able to follow another team.
I've never changed the team I support
But I have expanded on the original selection. I grew up in NZ without a TV, and saved all my pocket money up when I was 11 (this was 1977) so my mum could hire one and I would be able to watch the FA and European Cup finals. As Liverpool were involved in both, I became a fan.
Then we moved to the UK and ended up living a few hundred metres from Northampton Town's old ground. I ended up training regularly with the youth team (never offered a trial, sadly) and became a season ticket holder.
In London I've had season tickets at a few clubs, both league and non-league, depending on who's nearest. These days it's Arsenal, but I'm still a Liverpool fan first and foremost, and found the game at the Emirates a few weeks ago excruciating to watch.
Then there's the foreign teams I follow, or have followed - one is no longer with us - teams I've seen play and often bought the shirt: Busun I'Park in South Korea, Valerenga in Norway, Deportivo Palestino in Chile, Barcelona AND Real Madrid, AC Milan (I had to seek permission from some people high up in the Brigate Rossonere to stand amongst them during a European tie), LA Galaxy (a full decade before Beckham arrived), Vancouver Whitecaps (this was 1982: Terry Yorath, Peter Lorimer, a pre-Liverpool Peter Beardsley).
And here's the weird bit: I've seen Liverpool play dozens of times over the years (highlight: Dalglish scoring at Stamford Bridge in 1986 to secure the old first division title)... but I've still never been to Anfield.
interesting
not so keen on the Barcelona bit. I was explaining to a teenager today how Liverpool were like Man Utd now. They seemed to win everything,Got help from refs,injury time went on forever etc and most of all,people supporting then despite having no connection with the city or club at all. Not having a pop ,fraser but trying to explain how it kind of carbon dates your age, Early teens in the 70's Liverpool, 60's Man Utd. You still hear of blokes in their mid to late 20's who used to support Blackburn and are now slightly embarrassed about it.
I think it was different overseas
If you were choosing an English team to support at that time - if you lived abroad - there really weren't many options. My only direct link to English football was a subscription to Shoot, which arrived six weeks after the games it was reporting on had been played, so you didn't feel any real connection to the league. You could only buy Liverpool and Manchester United merchandise, and there wasn't the wall-to-wall TV coverage you get today. It really was like there were only two possible choices. If I recall correctly, my selection was actually a pretty contrary one at the time - it seemed everyone in NZ was a Man United supporter. Big foreign support for Liverpool didn't really arrive until their dominance post-1977.
Still, I chose them because they were in two cup finals. If that makes the 11-year-old me a glory hunter, so be it.
Methinks
There are a lot of scousers who would laugh (or worse) in your face if you said you were a UK based Liverpool supporter who had never been to Anfield.
I'm not a Red, but I do find it very weird.
Tell me about it
I used to share a flat with someone who pretty much grew up on The Kop.
Oi! Ipswich ! Noooo!
I go back to 1974 with Ipswich Town and I cannot see me ever switching to another club. They have in turn delighted and frustrated with their free-flowing style of football. Their forays into the top tier have surprised and delighted fans for generations.
However, if they did any of the following things I probably would desert them :
1. become deeply involved in deeply dodgy things like child abuse or drug trafficking,
2. revealed that important wins from the past were arranged via dodgy betting syndicates, or the poisoning of tea urns at half-time
3. adopt a racist policy on anything,
4. change their name to Traktor Boyz FC to be down with the kids,
5. merge with another club and lose their name entirely.
A Cautionary Tale
Australian references follow, but the meaning will be clear.
When a child of about nine, for reasons made dim by the passing of the years, I decided to switch from Hawthorn, the team of my father and brother, to Richmond. I’m sure it made sense at the time, but perhaps it was just a dose of childhood perversity – none of my friends followed the team, they were nowhere near local and I’d never had any real affection for them before I made the switch.
I had a rough time at school for a year or so, from students (and some teachers) and my family, none of whom could understand why anyone would do such a truly terrible thing. Shaving my head and tattooing my address on my skull in case I got lost would have seemed more reasonable.
In 1980, a year or so after the move, Richmond won the premiership. I was a very happy lad (although the odd cutting remark was still heard).
And as the years since have passed… nothing. Not a sausage. Richmond have had an appalling run for most of the last twenty-five years; a combination of poor recruiting, a playing squad with issues in the skills and attitude departments and a committee that didn’t realise they were actually supposed to support the club. There has been the odd ray of hope and quality play, but more often that not the rays of sunshine have been darkened with agonising regularity.
Hawthorn, the team I deserted, have become one of the most successful sides of the last twenty-five years.
Apparently Richmond is now moving into a wonderful new era. I still think it’s karma for my performing the unspeakable act as a child. But it’s too late to switch. I often hate being a Richmond supporter, but I’d hate myself a lot more if I stopped following them.
Parents: don’t let your child grow up to switch teams.
A small fib detected
"a wonderful new era" must be a euphemstic phrase I am unfamiliar with.
I almost got the chance
I sort of transferred my allegiance when I moved from Merseyside to Yorkshire. No way was I going to support Wednesday or United so I started watching Rugby League with Sheffield Eagles. I'm passionate about the Eagles and while I never lost the first-born love of Liverpool, I cried when we beat Wigan in the 1998 Challenge Cup Final.
The "almost change", though, came in 2000. Then then Eagles board took the (Sky TV) money and ran. The old Eagles club was "merged" with Huddersfield. The new club took Huddersfield's nickname, Huddersfield's badge, Huddersfield's colours, and were to play at Huddersfield's ground for most of the season. It couldn't have been more insulting if they'd added "and Sheffield" in cheap Letraset to the bottom of their logo. Oh wait, they did!
So if I wanted to carry on supporting Super League and the players I'd followed I needed to switch clubs. I considered it. I really did. But then Eagles' longest serving player, Mark Aston, announced a consortium would try and start a new Sheffield Eagles. Along with all of the other Eagles fans I decided I'd rather drop two divisions than support another team.
We're only 25 years old as a club and I've only seen 20 of those years but how long does it take to build fan commitment?
Dario Gradi's Red and White Army
Born and bred in Crewe but for the first 11 years of my life lived at the opposite end of town to the Alex. As a proper small town kid that part of town was a mile or tow beyond the "Here Be Monsters" sogn so I never went there. Sort of supported Man City (League 1968, Cup 1969), so a sort of early adopter in the glory hunting stakes.
At the age of 11 moved to the other end of town, about 50 yards from Gresty Road and an everlasting love affair developed. Season tickets, reserve matches...did the lot. Great to have a proper allegiance even though we were a crappy 4th division team for whom avoiding re-election (look it up kids) was greeted like promotion or winning Europe. You're not a proper fan until you've suffered 0-0 at home v Workington in the January rain with less than 1,000 other hardy souls.
Still the only team for me. I love to watch football played the exciting way, so currently enjoy Barca (saw them at the Nou Camp for the first time this year), Real and Arsenal (going to the Emirates on Easter saturday - a birthday treat for me) but there's still only one team whose results really matter.
Dario really is a God. Without him we would now be a shopping park and just a memory.
Two Crewe-related facts from me
1) They were the opponents on my first visit to Sincil Bank - home of my team, Lincoln City. March 1976. 2-0 to the home side. Record-breaking promotion season. Graham Taylor in his first managerial job.
2) On his Co. Durham farm my father-in-law has various wooden parts of an old Gresty Road stand which he bought as part of a job lot from a timber merchants. In fact, I think there's a red-painted piece in my loft with the seat numbers stencilled in white, that I've used as a kind of makeshift scaffolding.
Dario's work at Crewe has
Dario's work at Crewe has been fantastic and a lesson against the greed and over-spending of the big boys.
If only there were more like him.
Liverpool+Atletico Madrid
In that order. Always.
My brother
has always intrigued me. He started of a mad Man Utd fan, then switched to Southampton (our local team) when they won the FA Cup, then went back to Man Utd until he moved to London and is now a Chelsea season ticket holder who rarely goes.
To me, that says there's not a lot of real love there and I'm always ribbing him about being one of those ghastly Johnny-come-lately media footie types who support the big clubs and talk a good talk about it but somehow it doesn't really ring true. Do you know the the type I mean?
Me, I've kept the faith with the Saints despite not being a football fan at all. Glad to see them doing better this season at last.
Aberdeen
Have been an Aberdeen fan for over 25 years now.
We had some good times, but now we are rubbish.
Would I switch to any other team? No
Would I support either of the Old Firm? yes, when hell freezes over.
Where's the fun in winning every week?
It was common in Aberdeen in the 1970s...
... to support an English team as well as the Dons although it was more of a glory-hunting affectation than anything else ... I owned a Leeds scarf, my younger brother had a Nottingham Forest top ... Leeds in European Cup final in '75 (when i was 12), Forest in the final in '79 and '80 (when he was 12-13) ... the Dons were still the main attraction of course (had season ticket for ten years, see them occasionally now although i don't live in Aberdeen and haven't since i left home). Conversely the temporary, daft attachment to Leeds just faded away through my teen years ...
Also feel quite happy to come from Aberdeen since I've had terrible conversations with quite switched-on, liberal parents from Greater Glasgow ("well the boy supports St Mirren, sort of, but you have to be one thing or the other around Glasgow, so Celtic really") ...
not quite football, but...
A very good mate of mine was a Wigan Rugby fan, until he met a girl from St. Helens, whereupon he started supporting the dreaded enemy.
To equate that to football, it's like a Man U fan deciding to support Liverpool, and it's brought no end of Judas-based mockery.
Every time we all get together, there's a barrage of Judas gags, including: "Are your lips ok, mate? They look a bit sore. Must be from kissing Christ on the cheek in the Garden of Gethsemane." And when the bill arrives, the inevitable, "Ok, let's spilt the bill. Mike, you can use your 30 pieces of silver to pay, if you like."
It was the guy's stag-do recently, and we were going to take him out with a Wigan shirt with 'Judas' emblazoned on the back, until his fiancee had a word.
To which I can only reply...
... quoting "10 Things I Hate About You":
"What is it with this girl; has she got beer flavoured nipples?"
I'm not a rabid fan
but as a Newcastle supporter I'm obliged to not like Sunderland. A lot.
On my stag do, many years ago now, the plan hatched by my friends was that if I should pass out they would dye the hair on my torso and back(I'm very hirsute under the shirt!) in red and white vertical stripes.
I didn't so they didn't. But they've been in this foiled state for some time now and I know they haven't forgotten. One drink too many and I'll be Rokerised.
There's only one circumstance .....
... if you support Ars*n*l
ABA
In a word?
No
None.
Ever. I picked Leeds when I was 6. I have had some fleeting moments of wonderful glory but mostly its been disappointing. The good moments were great though - for a time, we were the most exciting team in the Prem. Anyone who changes their team just doesn't understand football.
I can like another team (I have a soft spot for Woking but they seem to have signed a deal with Leeds to ensure that they remain at least 3 levels below Leeds so are currently slumping below the Conference). I like Arsenal (got bought a load of drinks by Arsenal fans in the Hope & Anchor one night before a Arsenal Leeds game) And after all, they are not Man U or Chelsea. My Granddad was a huge Liverpool fan so have a soft spot for them too. But it will always be Leeds. Lorimer and Bremner started it, Batty and Strachan gave me some glory to carry me through and I hope to see Becchio and Snodgrass gracing the Championship with us next year.
No
you never change sides. never.
No
Not ever, never. End of.
Kidderminster Harriers - Pride of Worcestershire!
Wimbledon
So, if there is no excuse, what do you do for Wimbledon?
Stick to the originals and tie in with MK Dons or jump ship to AFC Wimbledon?
At what point does a club change who it is? Name change? (There've been a few.) Venue change? (Likewise...) Monetary considerations? (Oh, don't let's go *there*!)
Livin' for the City...
As a longtime Man City supporter living near Rotterdam I developed an attachment for Feyenoord. It's hard not to considering the fact that I pass their stadium everyday on my way to work.
Terrace culture
I've moved sideways to Barnet (from QPR) as I can't really get behind any club that actually 'wants' to be in the Premiership and, even worse, the 'Champions' (or should that be 'Safety-net') League.
To put it bluntly, any league that has Tottenham and Chelsea as members I want no part of.
Don't like them.....don't like anyone who supports them......don't want to give them any money.
Also, I like standing at football and at Underhill I can do that.
As an aside, is it me or is the 'Champions' League absolutely crap?
I mean Porto!!!!
After six months of football (six months!), they're handed two goals in the first leg against ho-hum Arsenal and then........five-nil.
What is the point?