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Are 50s the new 20s?

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I’m in my mid-thirties with two young children and I know that there is a similar demographic amongst the Word Massive. I don’t get to many gigs these days, and it’s been a while since I dropped a £50 note on the countertop at Our Price.

It was with a heavy heart that I had had to miss a Word in Your Ear and True Stories Told Live, even though I live on the Northern Line. Meanwhile, Mark Ellen’s diary has become an aspirational tract on how to lead a life rich in pop culture.

Can those d’un certain age offer any insight into whether maturity offers a return to the opportunity of one’s youth to hoover up all that’s good in contemporary music and arts?

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51 year old here

And yeah, it sort of does. Or has done for me, anyway.

Maybe it depends upon your kids, their their interests, and the nature of your relationship with them.

It worked like this. When the kids were born, I kind of stopped going to gigs - which had been my main 'going out' activity all through my teens and twenties.

Soon as I turned thirty, I just stopped. Still carried on buying and listening to music though, and my youngest got the bug.

When he started going to concerts at around 15-16, we started going together. And he wouldn't let me hang round the back with the dads - he wanted me down the front.

Then it was festivals - for the last three years, we've done Glastonbury and the odd Latitude together - either just me and him, or - more often, me and around fifteen of his mates. He's now twenty and will both be at Glastonbury again this year in a big gang.

And you know what? It's great. I get to hang around with 'da yoof' again, without being made to feel like the old man, I see lots of great performances and get to share them with my lad as well. There's a bit of 'what happens on tour, stays on tour' but we're both actually pretty well behaved.

My only regret is the fifteen or so years between 1990 and 2005 when I must have missed loads of great nights out.

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Paul Waring | 13 May 2010 - 4:17pm

I'm trying...

Exactly the same as you, I'm mid 30s, two kids (18 months and 4 years). I used to go to a few gigs a month, until I settled down. Recently, I've really missed going gigging.

So I went to A Word in Your Ear on my own, with Mr Husband babysitting.

Once in a blue moon, we get a babysitter and go to a gig. It's Randy Newman next week, wooo!

It's also lovely to share music with my family: They Might Be Giants have a family concert at the Royal Festival Hall next month, so we're all going to that. We all went to Dan Zanes last year, which was pretty magical. And we've been to a few classical gigs. We also have a festival lined up, we're off to Camp Bestival. Wish we could have done Latitude too...

So I'm doing what I can to reclaim the gigs now, I don't want to wait til I'm 50!

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Hannah | 13 May 2010 - 7:11pm

We talked about this at the last drinks...

... I think, Hannah. There's only a year or two between us, and we're in similar positions - although I'm off to see The Hold Steady on 22 June, which is making me as giddy as a schoolboy (© Dr. Elsa Schneider).

I really miss gigging - both playing and audiencing - and I'm trying to ramp up the number of shows I get to see before I hit 40 and find that my 30s have been a cultural Sahara. It's far too easy to get into a rut of "bloody hell, I'm knackered... West Wing?" when I'm at home with the GLW, but being a part of the Massive has already exposed me to so much great new (and old) music that I've just GOT to get out more. I'm missing out.

My 30s are altogether better than my 20s - by a country mile - but this is a glaring hole.

Must. Sort.

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Bob | 16 May 2010 - 5:58pm

Too right

Indeed, we did natter about this. Our kids are pretty much the same age, aren't they?

My 30s are infinitely better than my 20s too. And similarly, they'd be even better if I got more live music / culture back in there...

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Hannah | 16 May 2010 - 9:05pm

Thanks for your responses.

Paul, 1990-2005 were my peak gig activity years, if you need me to fill anything in! I am looking forward to bringing the kids to gigs when they get a bit older, but am wary of being RockDad(tm). The 20 month old can request her favourite songs off Revolver though, which is a good start ("Beekles daddy, put the beekles on! Sunshine! Submareeeeene! Sleepy song!")

Hannah: The new one is only 10 weeks old so we've really fallen off the gig radar, but there was a window where a babysitter got us to a few gigs once the eldest was sleeping through the night. Me & MrsDrJ have done the alternate-nights-out-on-our-own thing. Would love if they were a little older to bring them to TMBG, as it stands I have a pass to be at Glasto that weekend and squeeze a year's worth of gigs into a long weekend. Seriously considering a family trip to Latitude for Summer 2011 if the lineup is anywhere near as solid as this year.

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DrJ | 15 May 2010 - 1:16pm

Aw, 10 weeks old!

Sweet. I wish you lots and lots of sleep!

We took our little one to her first gig at 10 months old - with some trepidation - but she did love it. Maybe see you at Latitude next year!

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Hannah | 16 May 2010 - 5:42pm

I'm 50 in a month

married for 25 years with two children 18 and 15 and my Mum still asks me "When are you going to grow up?".
I choose to take this as a compliment!

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Pinmonkey | 16 May 2010 - 5:50pm

57 here

and the Father of 3 kids, (1 boy,2 girls)...I also have 2 g/children...1 boy 1 girl, and as I type, my eldest daughter is in labour in Newcastle with her first child. This is the sixth birth in my Family, and I am as nervous now as I was when my first was overdue. It WILL turn out OK, but I sure wish it was all over.
Oh, and my sons wife is pregnant also and due in November. Six months respite and it all to do again. Life is good at 50+....AND I still get to gigs!

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geacher53 | 16 May 2010 - 6:36pm

Not quite 50

But almost (48) and I can certainly confirm Dr. J. that in my own experience that gig going and many other social activities, such as enjoying cinema and reading for pleasure, are revitalised as the family grow up.

The early 90' when my family were little, was a cultural desert to me and remains so. I'm sure there is a whole seam of stuff I would have enjoyed that remains unknown to me as I was too busy with the nippers.

The advent of the net brought home the vast amount of good stuff out there that I was missing and a good friend started dragging me along to gigs in Sheffield at places like the Leadmill, Borderline and the Memorial Hall, reminding me how much fun you could have simply listening to a live band over a couple of beers. This remains my absolute favourite way of spending an evening out (Mrs Beach does come along on occasion) and I expect if you enjoy music as mostof us do here then you will follow suit.

Having said all that, enjoy the children while they are young it really does go in a flash.....

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Sebastian Beach | 16 May 2010 - 9:37pm
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