Entertainment For Lively Minds
Anyone for Old British Comic Strips
Posted by Springer Bell on 21 October 2008 - 1:12pm.
Follow link to, http://www.comicsuk.co.uk/FullStrip/FullStripMain.asp
http://www.falconsquadron.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/story/1977/1977.htm Johnny Red
http://bestofbattle.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/strips/stripsindex/onlinei... The Best of Battle
where you'll find DARKIE'S MOB, CAPTAIN HURRICANE, UNION JACK JACKSON,TIMEQUAKE.
Well it took me back anyway.
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Count me in
Is Captain Hurricane the one who takes on the Hun with just his two enormous fists?
He sure was
Desperate Dan with guns.
Darkie's Mob
Please no! I was hoping to get some work done.
Union Jack Jackson!
God I used to love Warlord comic.
Pow! and Wham!
Surely the best title for a comic ever.
AND FREE LEAGUE LADDERS
with the first issue of Valiant. The greatest ever comic free gift I've always thought. I got to know all the team colours because of them: Mansfield blue and yellow. Northampton maroon and gold. Man Utd red and white and green and yellow and black and blue and...........
Worst gift was those tastless, chalk like whistling sweets.
The Japs
seemed to get a bad press.
Aieeee!!
That was their catchphrase.
Sir, I have to disagree
The Japanese catchphrase was "BANZAI!"
Aieeeee Banzai!
Seems to cover it.
Day of the Eagle
I remember having the complete story in some annual or other and I was convinced - aged 6 - that it was a movie adaptation.
Did anyone else join the Warlord club thingmy? You got a plastic wallet and some codes if I remember rightly...
Oh yes
Warlord and the Fireball club from Bullet as well. Remember Fireball the nephew of Lord Peter Flint. And the code book. Remember these.
Ssshhhh...
...more Warlord & Fireball agents... over here.
The Wire continues to rear it's lovely head..
'Dinger Bell' in The Kids of Stalag 41, anybody?
Involved with a gang operating against the authority figure. Seems to model his pranks around acts of construction.
Perhaps David Simon just loved 70s comics?
Interesting, isn't it?
That the generation raised on that stuff ended up lacing flowers in their hair. *Nobody* carried a weapon more threatening than a catapult. Whereas the generation who were denied war toys ended up packing heat.
Do you want a broom
with that generalisation Mr Hepworth?
That is a very good point
But do you remember, even back then there were people calling for them to be banned as being too violent. They're gone and look what's left.
Look at what's left
TV. So that's alright then?
Its not a good point
Kids today still read. Sometimes its books, sometimes its comics or magazines (and magazines have moved down the age groups as publishers seek to make kids feel more adult). Sometimes its the web. It all counts. My son reads Match magazine, various books and uses a number of (mainly BBC) websites. He doesn't pack heat. Nor do his friends. And there is little or no gun crime in Yateley (although there was a drive by shouting once - (c) HMHB).
it looks like a hot bed of
gun crime!
"Nine BB guns were seized by police in Hook (Hampshire), six from youngsters aged between 12 and 14: the guns had been bought at a market in Yateley. "
Yateley
It sounds terrifying. According to Hampshire Police, there were 142 instances of violence against persons committed there in 2006-7, compared to just 13 in neighbouring Eversley. Think I'll stick with Islington.
Aren't online
Crime statistics fun!
I'm sticking with the no gun crime
BB guns don't count. And there is no market in Yateley.
Sorry Lee, blame yourself for opening this can of worms
Yateley Sector - Crime Statistics 2006-07
1a Violence Against Person 7751
1b Sexual Offences 456
1c Robbery 208
2a House Burglary 1394
2b Other Burglary 2319
3a Theft of Motor Vehicle 798
3b Theft from Motor Vehicle 2904
3c Other theft and handling 4859
3d Shop theft 2036
4 Fraud & Forgery 2074
5 Criminal Damage & Arson 8322
6 Drugs 1056
7 Other Offences 418
NOT STATED 34
Totals 34629
Yateley's population at the time of the 2001 Census 15,400 with 5,810 Households
With those stats the whole of Yateley must be involved. Your kids are probably sneaking out at night and doing serious damage with their Lightsabers.
Stats
Are they not the stats for the Hampshire force as a whole? Page two of the same .pdf should give you the various local stats, which are a little kinder to Yateley.
Just checked
It says Yateley sector whatever that means. I thought it would mean Yateley.
http://www.hampshire.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/234804AD-C471-401C-84B8-3D6E...
Stats
The first page of that .pdf is an overall guide that shows stats for all the Hampshire Police North & East Operational Command Units, which comprises the Basingstoke Town, Basingstoke Rural, Fleet, Yateley, Alton, Longmoor, Aldershot and Farnborough sectors.
The second page of the same file breaks down the Yateley sector itself, which covers Yateley, Blackwater & Hawley, Eversley, Hook, Hartley Wintney, Odiham and Crondall & Long Sutton. The statistics on this page are the ones that Lee's son is not contributing to.
Phew
I thought the town had gone to the dogs while I'd gone to work. Given that the stats include Aldershot, Blackwater and Basingstoke, I feel much better. I shall go and unlock the front door again.
Lucky for Lee
I was beginning to think they were out to rob their own mothers down Yateley way.
'ello 'ello 'ello
shouldn't you lot be at home re-arranging your record collections...
Christ on a bike
I've done the maths - I'm responsible 2 of those crimes. Mind you, there is a bad lad in our street - he may have done the rest. I think he stole the neighbourhood watch signs as well.
Haven't you lot got something better to do?
I actually had lots more to do
but this was much more fun.
Violence! You want violence? Banned violence?
How about Action?
http://www.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/contents.htm
Now thats a story
Remember Hook Jaw. Jaws gone wrong for 10 year olds.
I remember Dredger...
... he was hard-boiled cop, with suspect morals, who would do anything to get his prey.
Have you read the story of Action on that site?
Very interesting stuff from a publishing point of view.
Actions
the best! Long live "hook jaw" Sharks not being hard enough and needing a harpoon though it's jaw to make that bit harder.
Comic should have been band as they were full subversion how dare kids from all back grounds have weekly access to cheap and colourful well written well drawn entertainment that said adults were abit dumb, that the police where fascist and that unless your dinner was huge mound of mash with fifeteen sausages sticking out it you were being robbed!
Also can I be the first to suggest Word drops the Cd and gives away code books frisbees, space dust, spud guns
Perhaps starting with
A free Spitfire. Seeing that we are all oldies around here.
Freebies as covermounts
What about a false beard?
followed by a stupid beret
and some knowing badges about cult police procedural shows
I don't know what to make of this
http://www.comicsuk.co.uk/images/FullStrip/HarryWharton/HarryWharton_001...
Ah yes boarding school
Those were the days.
Bringing you slap bang
Up to date...
Billy Bunter and the Tory Party
People often used to wonder why the Tories always closed ranks and protected the likes of Jeffrey Archer when it was obvious he was a bit of a bad lad. You can see the blueprint for this 'closing of ranks' in the Billy Bunter stories where that gang of chaps (Bob Cherry, Harry Wharton, Johnny Bull, The 'Nabob' etc) would always try to bail out the bounder (Smithy) when he had run up gambling debts or got himself into yet another scrape.
Yarrroooooooooooo! as the Fat Owl himself might have more eloquently phrased it
What Bunter, Cherry, Wharton etc did Next
And that closing of public school ranks is taken to wonderful extremes in Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier, with Bunter, Cherry, Wharton and others taking on adult roles that weave in Orwell's 1984, Bond, Carry On and more.
Personal favourite: the tribute to Gerry Anderson. They name each spaceship after the way the previous one was destroyed. "Here's the Pancake XL4"
I'm pleased to say...
...that I don't remember any of the strips linked to in the original post (so ner...) - I don't suppose the likes of Joe Bones the Human Fly and Alf Tupper - The Tuff of the Track are anywhere on the internet, are they?
(I also remember a Victor strip about a boxing caveman but the name escapes me...)
You should know some of them
Joe Bones in Victor was around the same time as Darkie's Mob was in Battle and Union Jack Jackson was in Warlord.
And get onto ebay. Victor is still out there if you want it.
I genuinely don't remember...
...either Battle or Warlord - I only know Victor because my uncle gave me all his old comics when I was a nipper.
compared to american comics
British comics are very poor at reprinting and celebrating past glories. There's some tuff or tracks on line if you search.
Battle and warlord were more 70's version of victor which was still a bit 1950's
It has always amazed me that no one
from D.C. Thomson or IPC Magazines has seen fit to do reprints or story bundles of some of their classics when there is obviously a a demand for it.
from the commercial angle the time is now because in a few years no one will give a fig and the opportunity will be lost for good.
Reprints...
DC Thompson have done some 'best of the Beano/best of the Dandy' compilations.
The Commando war comics have been althologised recently
Anyone interested in the British comic industry should try and find a copy of the BBC series 'Comics Britannia' - excellent viewing
I've since discovered...
...that the boxing caveman was 'Cecil the Stone Age Scrapper'.
Threads like this are why I love THE WORD.
Surprised nobody has mentioned the great 'Charley's War' yet. For me it is the best British comic strip there has ever been, and Titan Books have collected it very lovingly indeed:
Darkie's Mob runs it a close second, though.
I agree with Lee Rimmer above – kids clearly are reading, as evidenced by the massive post-Potter boom in the likes of Artemis Fowl, Young Bond etc - but I can't help feeling sad that we can no longer sustain a proper weekly comics culture.
My nephews read Doctor Who Adventures which is fine (and highly successful) but it's just pictures and "fun facts". There is no narrative to speak of. Its equivalent in my childhood was the old Doctor Who Weekly, written by the great Pat Mills (who did Charley's War) and occasionally Alan Moore and Grant Morrison, and drawn by Steve "Judge Dredd" Dillon and Dave "Watchmen" Gibbons. In comparison to today's Doctor Who Adventures comic it might as well have been the New Yorker but it sold in the tens of thousands. Can you imagine anything like that happening now?
Perhaps Development Hell needs a character licensing department...
we did mention charlies war
here in the wrongly named (let's not start that agin)"graphic novels" strand which has loads of comic suggestions.
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/the-best-graphic-novels
ps. Charlies war
I can't see why charlies great grandson couldn't end up in Northern Ireland or Iraq
Character licensing
You mean that Dev Hell might produce Dave 'n' Mark action figures? Complete with office diorama? :-)
Charley's War and Doctor Who
I'm with Andrew Harrison when it comes to 'Charley's War' - I'm too young to remember it from the first time round, but I picked up one of those excellent Titan collections for a pittance in a sale a few years ago, and found myself hooked.
My own favourite British comics are all spin-offs, but very good ones at that. The aforementioned 'Doctor Who Weekly' produced some brilliant, imaginative stories, starting a tradition that still goes on today in the magazine's current form 'Doctor Who Magazine'.
But I first became really excited by proper comics when I read the early 90s 'Thunderbirds' comic published by (I think) Fleetway. Looking to produce an exciting comic to cash in on the massive and utterly unexpected success of the TV repeats, they made the smart move of reprinting tons of old strips from the 60s Anderson comic 'TV Century 21'. Frank Bellamy's take on the series is fantastic - he does an incredible job with it, the vehicles and futuristic settings are stunning and the characters manage to be recognisable as their puppet counterparts whilst also being highly realistic. Even when I grew out of the show, and found watching even clips of it something of a struggle, I never lost that interest in their comic counterparts.
It is very sad that the greatest buzz my 7 year old gets
when he goes to the local sweet shop is if there are Match Attax cards for sale. I needed to know that there was Victor, Wizard, Warlord, Battle, Valiant and all the rest. I went on a mission a couple of years ago on ebay and bought up a good collection of this stuff and it sits proudly in my study awaiting some more "sad bastards" like myself to come and admire.
Just Imagine a 10 Year Old Coming Home With This Today
fab thread
great link - thanks.
The lack of comics today - certainly non-tv tie-in titles is disappointing. Too often the comic seems to be little more than a leaflet accompanying the free gift - or gifts. In my day we were happy with one of those folded paper and card thingies that made a noise when you swung them and a damned good read. Here's to the Umbrella Men, Billy the Cat, Black Bob and Winker Watson.
Raven on the wing
Forget all the talk about the war stories (although Charlie's war is fantastic). They, (The powers that be etc) should reprint Raven on the wing from Valiant. A gypsy boy playing barefooted - what more could you want. Much better than Roy of the Rovers.
Johnny Cougar
'The Grappling Seminole' was one of my favourites. I seem to remember him getting into heap big trouble both in and out of the ring, though I might be confusing him with Little Plum.
And, talking of free gifts, how good were the ones given away with the first few issues of 2000AD? I can still remember the stickers designed to look like your flesh had torn to reveal the robotics underneath...
Of course he grew up and became...
John Mellencamp
Oh you wit you
Probably covered in the graphic novels thread...
...but for children of the 1980s you can get serious anthologies of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog and Nemesis the Warlock at all good comic shops (and some bad book shops). Carlos Ezquerra's art on 'The Apocalypse War' still sends shivers down my spine.
I try to live my life by War Marshal Kazan's dying words.
"I regret... nothing! I apologise... for nothing!"
Alf Tucker "Tough of the Track"
Surely the greatest "Comic Strip Hero is Alf Tucker...A strippling who,even though from an underprivledged background,found time from his job as a welder to kick the collective arses of Snob Athletic club on a regular basis.A better Labour V Tory allegory,I've yet to see.
A real working class hero with a "Mozzer" haircut WAAAAAY before his time and with two fingers to Mockney Chef Jamie Oliver,ate fish and chips to gain sustenance for every meet,as he was always late due to some unforeseen "Welding Problem..."
Paul Weller went for Cycling shorts,Italian fashion and espresso culture in the eighties...Would have had my respect if he got out the old singlet and green flash plimsoles instead.Might have made that "Red Wedge" platform more real,Paul.
If they made a movie..I'd go for Dave Gedge from The Wedding Present as Alf...
I always thought that
I always thought that "Nipper" from, I think, Roy of the Rovers, was the football equivalent of Tupper.
And how has RoR not been mentioned yet? There is a great anthology dedicated just to the life of Roy Race, but I miss some of the classics from the comic - HotShot Hamish, The Safest Hands in Soccer (didn't they kill off Ray Stewart before it was fashionable to kill of main characters?).
And the Charley's War cannot get enough mention. Joe Colquhoun made me appreciate how much the art can add to the story. I read that as a young(ish) kid, and I knew that this was grown up stuff being made accessible to me in a non patronising way.
Actually, rereading that, that's hindsight coloring my view. I do know that I recognized it as something important when I read it.
"Nipper"...
... originally appeared in SCORCHER. This was later matched up with TIGER to become TIGER & SCORCHER.
Roy Of The Rovers originally appeared in TIGER before breaking free with his own publication:
ROY OF THE ROVERS.
Is this a good or a bad thing that I recall this stuff?????
I also recall a comic strip from RotR called (I think) "You Are The Star".
It was basically drawn from the viewpoint of a footballer's vision (like the much later PEEP SHOW tv programme) and you inserted your own name into the speech bubbles where appropriate).
Could be mistaken about some of the details as I am now 40 !
It's a good thing
I had a subscription to Tiger and couldn't wait to go down to the newsagent on a Saturday and pick it up.
Billy's Boots was a big favourite of mine. I think I knew that Johnny Cougar was a bit wrong somehow, as it never used to float my boat.
Also used to enjoy Skid Solo with his trusty sidekick Sandy.
And wasn't Hot Shot Hamish in Tiger as well? Wow, I'm getting major flashbacks now. Haven't thought about this stuff in decades, quite literally.
Anyone remember Vulcan ?
Didn't last long, I was 10 but I thought it was brilliant.
Amazingly it came out on the day after my 10th birthday trivia fans!
Strip recycling
I've never seen that comic before but both The Trigan Empire and The Steel Claw were strips in the 60's. The Trigan Empire was in The Eagle (but I stand to be corrected on that) and Steel Claw was in The Valiant.
Good Comic Nontheless
I remember reading it in the barbers waiting for a haircut when I was about 8. And it was nice and scary too.
I met Alan Moore a couple of weeks back
He's one of the gentlest, nicest men I've met - as was Paul Cornell who write everything from Dr Who to the fantastic 4
It was at Newcon4 in Northampton - I wrote it up here
http://quims.org/gigs/newcon4/
Cheers!
sausage munching
sausage munching lily-livered krauts, whose longest line was "Doner und Blitzen, " ragin' furies, Half-Pint Malone and nips.
Was there a downside ?
Die das Englander
No German word for die then?
'Clicky Ba smell blood Massa'
Can't remember whether it was Hotspur, Victor or something else but The Wolf Of Kabul, accompanied by his loyal if slightly neanderthal manservant Chung, seemed well enough equipped to sort out trouble in that part of the world. It could all be done with the wide end of a cricket bat apparently. If only the western powers had taken more notice of his astute observations and enforcement methods...
The Wolf Of Kabul
definitely was Hotspur as was King Cobra, V for Vengeance and Alf Tuppers's best mate Bernard Briggs.
Johnny Red Hurricane Pilot and Falcon Squadron
Guess what I've found. The lot. Johnny Red. Click on link and click again for each page. Enjoy. Because this is up there with Darkies Mob. Absolute brilliance.
http://www.falconsquadron.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/story/1977/1977.htm
And if you want more
http://bestofbattle.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/features/intro.htm
Remember this
War Stories - Starjets
Brilliant
Completely forgotten about this. Cheers.
John Wagner the man behind
Battle Picture Weekly talks to David Bishop the man behind Judge Dredd Megazine and 2000 AD on his Blog. Interesting stuff if your are interested.
http://viciousimagery.blogspot.com/2007/01/john-wagner-talks-about-battl...
This thread brings it all back.
Cheers.
Wilson...
... was in the Hotspur I think. An amazing athlete who caried on running and winning races until somewhat elderly. However he did seem to rely somewhat on a variety of unnamed substances somewhat clandestinely obtained from a mysterious character. Was he ahead of his time? Would he now face a lifetime ban? Fair play to Alf Tupper - they haven't yet banned Fish and Chips but, given Jamie Oliver's messianic approach to cooking, it can only be a matter of time!
# We didn't start the fire #
Minnie the Minx
The Three Bears
Bash Street Kids
Little Plum
Baby Face Finlayson
Dennis the Menace
Roger the Dodger
Faceache
I loved them all.
Also, the Roy of the Rovers comic. I left it just as he was getting vulnerable and human. I remember the really very sad strip called "YOU are the Star" where you were supposed to glue a photograph of yourself onto the blank face of the player scoring a hattrick in the FA Cup Final. The text had helpful blanks as well "What a terrific goal by _______ "
"Yes, ________ really IS the best player in the world".
Even at eight years old, it was a bit depressing to find yourself actually writing in your own name.
Does anyone else remember Cheeky Weekly?
My favourite comic in the form of a weekly diary type strip where Cheeky would meet various characters (Ah Sew - a Chinese tailor, Hid Kid - a boy who hid and Willie Brushton - a painter). Interspersed with some character strips it was especially a joy because they used to fill the gaps between the picture boxes with terrible jokes.
cheeky
I think was in a merged whizzer and chips, he was a roger the dodger character of memory serves
He started out as a character in Krazy
This might refresh your memory.
http://www.toonhound.com/cheeky.htm
What about my favourite
Bunty!
I knew a chap...
... who was spotted bringing home Bunty for his sister from the newsagent many years ago.
The nickname BUNTY still sticks to this day.
Ah, kids are cruel...
I'll confess to reading
Bunty, Mandy, Jinty, Lindy Jinty & Lindy. They belonged to my sister and there was only certain reading material available. That's my excuse anyway.
Did youcut out the pictures on the back
and dress them with the attached dresses and coats?
Thankfully
That was my sisters job. I stuck to the reading.
You bastards
We have a friend that we caught w..., no that's a tale for another day. You can guess his nickname. 25 years of it.
With friends like you guys
ETC ETC.
Topper and The Beezer
Anyone remember those two. They were the size of a newspaper if I can remember, definitely A3 size at least. My life was lived through Danny's Tranny and The Numbskulls and 2 kids from the planet OZ with a flying car.
And The Clash's "Topper" Headon was named after Mickey The Monkey.
I think you ment
The Whizzers from Ozz.
I remember...
...reading my uncle's copies of Topper and Beezer and they were definitely broadsheets (unless I'm experiencing a Wagon Wheels-type false memory).
The first comic I took (before it was swallowed-up by The Dandy) was Nutty, home of Bananaman - does anyone else recall it?
Topper and Beezer
Training for anyone taking the Sunday Times. Ned and Cedric. Remember them? The best in comic strip secret agent stuff.
I flew with Braddock
Weekly story in the Victor told by his navigator, George Bourne.
Superbly illustrated, Braddock fearlessly took on Jerry flying Mosquito's Lancaster's , even a Lysander one week.
Given that Commando is currently being reproduced by Carlton Books, would'nt it be great to see Braddock,Alf Tupper and Morgyn the Mighty back on the bookshelves. Come on DC Thomson-sort it!