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Anyone else seen this?
I was just reading a blog on the Guardian site that mentioned a new music site called musoc.org. It's a site that seems to want to save Classical music from becoming popular (I could be wrong!), so I clicked on the link and what a read! the FAQ section on pop music is brilliant, http://www.musoc.org/faq.htm. It seems to take itself far too seriously, and looks like it was written by someone in their first year of a music degree (for the first few months of mine I corrected anyone who called it Classical music, the correct term was Western Art Music! I stopped when I realised what a knob I was, and before I got beaten up by mates!), or by someone who was dumped by their other half for a rock musician! I know I shouldn't get annoyed by this stuff, but I haven't had my coffee yet!
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A random quote...
"There are of course many definitions of 'art', and, given the inherent subjectivity and limitless debatability of aesthetics, a definition of Art Music that doesn't depend on agreement over such an inscrutable subject makes life and argumentation simpler."
Oh do f**k off. That site is pillock central.
Tee hee
and as we walk away you can still hear him ranting away in his splendid isolation correcting the nice woman who just brought him his coffee "this isn't a biscotti..."
If the Guardian...
replies are anything to go by, they'll be over here in a while to give out to us!
I just had a thought...
is there any mention of one P. Morley on that site? Reads like his handiwork to me.
but P. Morley
Loves pop music he wrote an entire book that proved that Kylie invented the western world or something
Good point...
I momentarily forgot that. I was simply equating the level of pretentious waffle on that site with his unforgettable style of writing.
Absolutely Brilliant!
Top quality, entirely pointless cultural elitism.
"[Pop] is performed by people who... can barely sing or play an instrument. Charlatanism, affectation, contrivance, banality and conventionality are all typical features... The songs themselves... are nearly always expressions of juvenile sentimentality, posturing or narcissism' - that sounds alright to me.
If they come round here spoiling for a fight, we can bamboozle them with talk of arcane prog, obscurist indie, primordial rock'n'roll and unashamed heavy metal (amongst many, many others). That should show them who's boss.
That's what I thought
all of the above is why pop is the best as far as I can see.
But...
Ah! But one of the riders is that "In fact, 'visuals' (appearance, image, antics, venues) are generally more important than content". Does that mean that prog & obscurist indie remain outside the "Pop" category?
Or is he just an idiot?
He's not just any idiot...
... he's a windy Art Music idiot.
Not forgetting 'unrepentant doo-wop'
(it'll be next year's thing y'know)
A wind up?
Surely not for real. I think someone has created it as an idiot magnet.
If Robert Johnson doesn't qualify as art music, then they have it wrong anyway. In my opinion.
you could be right
but anything that needs a prefix is always doomed, art music, perfect pop, intelligent drum and bass, jazz funk, jazz rock, prog rock, alt country.....
I'm thinking it has...
to be a wind up as well!
got to hand it to them
this is a masterclass in "Charlatanism, affectation, contrivance, banality ".
I knew it
- they are talking about Bob Dylan
Now THAT'S a Word t-shirt that I'd buy!
"The Word - charlatanism, affectation, contrivance, banality"
on the back ?
"juvenile sentimentality, posturing and narcissism"
Not, I fear, a wind-up
No-one who's that clever or funny has the spare time to come up with someting like this. I think we should take he (for it can only be a he) who is responsible and invite him to partake in a rational and intelligent debate on the matters he holds so dear. Then we should drag him outside and give him the righteous kicking he so obviously deserves. The ponce. Bet he looks like Malcom Gladwell.
Bill Drummond
what's he been up to lately?
Oh good call!
This does have the whiff of Drummond about it. The man who showed his contempt for art and pop now turns his eye upon classical music. And he's got a bit of spare time on his hands. And a very cool overcoat.
I feel sorry for
complete Twats like that...must be a full time job being so superior, disappointed yet ridiculed all your life.
I should know :)
I showed...
the website to a friend of mine who's a classical violinist (sorry, 'Art' violinist!) and she could read more than a paragraph before she started getting really annoyed!
Oh dear
That is awful, but I suppose it's that person's right to set up a web site and a mailing list if they want to. I'm not sure that the owner realises that the increased web traffic is more like people slowing to look at a car crash than people who actually agree with him/her.
The whole thing reminded me of the Radio 3 bits that Dead Ringers used to do; "BBC Radio 3. Quiet isn't it. The time is just coming up to... oh, who cares. Let's all have a biscuit and listen to some Schubert."
Excellent line!...
"Let's all have a biscuit and listen to some Schubert."
Can I have a biscuit
and listen to Southside Johnny instead please?
I think
The questions posed & answered came from the same pen.Two minds,but one pen.Hilarious.
Has this site been founded by Robert Robinson?
It reminds me of the utter disdain with which RR used to greet an answer to a question about "popular" music on Brain Of Britain.
Unfortunately the contestants seemed duty bound to align themselves with RR. If asked to identify who was singing a song about the only acceptable answer was the Beatles, as the Hey Jude Hitmakers had actually permeated the fabric of rarified knowledge required of BoB contestants.
That would be the answer if the artist was anyone from Bob Dylan to Led Zeppelin. Otherwise the only acceptable answer was "I don't know".
Cue an RR complaint about being deafened by the cacophony.
It is Paul Morley!!
from a email from Observer Music Monthly
" OMM's critic-at-large Paul Morley writes about putting away pop music and studying classical music and composition at the Royal Academy of Music for a year"
Can a man be more Grey?
can't abide him
There's no Way
this could be Paul Morley.The man's too much in love with Pop Music.He's definitely one of my favourite Music journalists.Always insightful & thoughtful.
And also a lot of thought has clearly gone into this
.
'Music doesnt have to be very
sophisticated to be more challenging than most pop 'music'.
Who does this condescending twat think he is? Sounds like he needs his head removing from his arse.