Entertainment For Lively Minds
...And starring Rhys Ifans as Julian Cope
Posted by Five-Centres on 11 October 2010 - 1:06pm.
I see David Morrissey has secured the rights to Cope's Head On and plans to make it in to a film. Possibly starring Rhys Ifans, the world's most pretentious actor.
I'm a big Cope fan but I don't know that much about his life. Could a film about it have legs? Interesting bit players from the Liverpool scene, his being a bit bonkers, etc?
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Rhys Ifans - "world's most pretentious actor"
Not sure what's provoked this comment. I have met him on a few occasions as he is a friend of a friend of mine. He's always been pretty down to earth at those times. So mystified by your comment.
Anyway, Julian Cope is excellent source material for a film. Perhaps we could get Joaquin Phoenix to play him if we are looking for a really pretentious actor
It's the interviews I've recently read
off the back of his Mr Nice film. It made for ridiculous reading.
All I can repeat is
that in my experience he's a decent chap.
On the interview front, I have only read one recent interview with him and again I thought he came across quite well but everyone is entitled to their opinion
Indeed they are
I didn't say he wasn't nice or not a good actor (he's pretty good). But when actors start banging on about the craft of acting they need to take a reality check.
But hey, as you say, just my opinion which counts for nothing at all.
Don't most actors
Talk about the craft of acting at some point or another? Anyway, I do not work in media whereas you do so your opinion almost certainly counts more than mine in shaping opinion.
I'm afraid...
That's the way of the world. I have a friend who regularly gets an absolute kicking on here, and the picture painted generally doesn't bear much resemblance to the person I know.
But there's not much you can do about it, and probably no point fretting about it: suffice to say, the person on the receiving end will be well used to it by now, or else they wouldn't be where they are.
But, Fraser
if you're best mates with Bono, what do you expect?
Arf!
Have an up.
C'mon Fraser, spill the beans! Is it Florence of "The Machine" fame?
s'not Gideon
is it?
Does he monitor the site 24/7?
More popular than Bono...
if you ask the Word Massive!
If he did
... he would not be so ronery.
If an actor talking about acting is pretentious
what's the right word for a conference of salesmen talking about selling or a symposium of doctors talking about doctor-ing or even your local publican talking about the upkeep of his beer cellar? I rather like the idea that people actually care about the job they do.
*deep sigh*
You probably needed to read it for yourself in last Friday's Guardian. Yes it's lovely for actors to talk about their craft, but frankly it's of little interest to anyone but other actors or aspiring actors, really. Otherwise it belongs in Pseuds Corner, IMHO.
Whatever next?
Musicians talking about the music they make?
That's kind of different though, isn't it?
Then again, perhaps it's because it's more interesting and doesn't always sound so hideously self-indulgent.
Is it that different?
I'm sure we could find without too much diffculty all sorts of pretentious twaddle from the likes of Bowie, Lennon, Dylan and many other Word favourites.
I'd like to see musicians talk more about the minutiae
Perhaps anal for some, but I like it when musicians start waffling on about what kind of mixer they like to use or how they got that special sound by double tracking a fart or something. For me, it gives real insight to their craft. I mean the only time Macca says anything remotely interesting these days is when he lets his celebrity guard down and puts his muso hat on. Seems embarrassed by it though. Odd, considering what innovators the Fabs were in the studio.
Yesbut..
for all the undoubted care and skill he puts into his acting don't you think the main reason Mr Ifans was offered the gig rather than Philip Seymour Hoffman or Forrest Whittaker is the fact he LOOKS A BIT LIKE JULIAN COPE
not really
and not at that period, plus he's too short
(waits quietly to be shot down in flames)
His Peter Cook
was very good.
He was in
Love, Honour and Obey.
I've only just forgiven the Winstone for that.
Isn't acting pretentious by definition?
Julian Cope biopic?
I dunno... Although I suppose they could go totally left field. Brian Blessed or someone.
WOOOOOOORLD
SHUT YOUR MOOOOOOOOOOOUTH...... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ouch Monkeys!
he's too old to play the very young and fresh faced Cope (check the vid) the book centres around. He can act but he's not to my particular taste, Peter Cook was excellent though.
and is he tall enough?
To the point
Ifans is surely far too old to play young Cope.
Any nominations as to who will play Dave Balfe? I think that Jack P Shepherd who plays David Platt in Coronation Street could do it. He's short enough and ugly enough.
The World's most pretentious actor...
...not by a long chalk he ain't. He's one of the more successful ones though, so he must be doing something right.
I'm in Mr Nice.
I play one of the Customs Officers who arrest him.
Rhys was very sweet I thought.
Right, let's clear this up
I read an interview with him, he appeared to be a dreadful luvvie and rather pretentious.
I'm sure he's lovely, sweet, a good actor, cares about his job, etc, and that's not in question. He just came across as a bit of a knob.
But of course it's Just My Opinion. Bono should be so lucky to have such support.
S'Alright. F-C, I agree with you...
I've read a couple of interviews about Mr Nice, and been struck that he has come across as a bit of knob in them, as I've never thought it before about him. He was on the Film Programme last week and I thought the same.
I came to the conclusion that it was the subject matter of the film that was to blame, plus the fact he was mates with Howard Marks.
I find it hard to get past the grey pants scene
in Four Notting Hills And A Funeral. Mind you, I love Head-On but I suspect Julian Cope himself was a bit of a knob too.
Thanks JoLean
You're a rock
Benedict Cumberbatch
would have made a good young Cope, I reckon. For anyone who hasn't read it Head On is a great read, by the way.
So would
Benjamin Sniddlegrass
To answer the original question...
Yes, it could make an excellent film. A sort of '24-hour-party people' meets 'fear and loathing in Las Vegas'-esque romp. With added turtle and freezing swamp. I can hardly wait.
I hear....
Donald Ross-Skinner fancies being played by Helen Mirren, because she's 'well versatile'.
Actually...
Don't know if I said 'well versatile' but Helen Mirren because my dad likes her. I'd go for Cate Blanchett. Well, she played Dylan and he had a guitar and big curly hair!
So...
...do you know if this film is really a runner?