....in Supertramp? The singer in Gilbert O'Sullivan, if there is one, I forget.

is all about an absent Bez, a delayed concert and the dust caps from Shaun Ryder's recently flattened tyres. A night ruined by the one unnecessary member of the band saved by juvenile revenge.

All of Coldplay, Keane, Oasis, etc.

Chas Smash did write Michael Caine.

I know they're no longer with us, and it's no doubt poor form to speak ill of them, but really.

(Didn't we do this or something very similar to this not long ago? And didn't Andrew Ridgeley win hands down?)

He's there because he's Keith's mate, let's face it, not because he's Mick Taylor's replacement. As a guitar player he's barely qualified to change Mick Taylor's strings.

who finds this unpleasantly misogynistic?
Thought not.

It's straightforward russetphobia, fear and loathing of Gods own hair colouring. Every freckle counts, friends.

Of Scary Spice, or Nicola Roberts (the 'ginger one' from Girls Aloud), these women are mainstream pop entertainers, and pretty good ones at that, at least judging by their mainstream popularity. Both can certainly dance better than, say, Bob Dylan.

Of course, this is a silly comparison. Bob Dylan isn't expected to be able to throw Paula Abdul-style shapes, just as Einstein was never criticised for being a lousy footballer.

Similarly, it doesn't really matter whether PS and TGO can sing or not - it's not really all that central to what they do, which is satisfy a lot of people looking for precisely the kind of entertainment that both deliver.

now I'd pay to see that - comedy gold.

My point about TGO can be verified by checking out a few GA videos. You'll find she's in view a lot less than the others. As for eye candy, well, she's not in the Belinda Carlisle league, is she? But then I'm not oil painting, either, so who am I to criticise? (P. S. I've had two red-headed girlfriends in my time and very nice they were too!)

As the parent to a child with red hair, I reserve the right to be quite picky about the use of ginger in a derogatory way (which it is almost always). Its not big or funny and it doesn't set an appropriate example and if you were picking up on other differences (sexuality, race, physical handicap)it would be plain unacceptable.

...points out firmly that our #2 son is strawberry blond.

My sincere apologies to all those I offended with this blog.

But I don't have Red Hair.

Cheers mate.

"Shaking off his mental chains" quite literally in front of Howard's keyboards. What was his name again?

Come to think about it, what about Howard himself? What, exactly, was he for?

This thread should be retitled `Apart from Andrew Ridgeley who else jumped on for the ride?` Well how about Philip Adrian `whats he for?`Wright of The Human League. Or Jason `silent` Orange of Take That (Phase one). Or Meg `basher` White on the drums in The White Stripes. There must be more. Incidentally, its nice that us gingers are being held up in a good light yet again. One of the (albeit) few reasons I like Nicola out of Girls Aloud is that she`s a ginger. I`m not telling what the other reasons are.

A Jed for the post NY heroin chic generation.

Docktor Avalanche of The Sisters Of Mercy. C`mon lads, employ a drummer

Louise Wener and three others. C`mon can you name them?

The poor man's Bez. Enough said. Weekender a genius tune though.

Diid Osman.

Do I win a prize?

Anyone out of Catatonia aside Cerys?

Let's not forget Andrew Ridgeley "co-wrote" Careless Whisper!!

Richey Manic - there to hold a guitar and look cool (in his own words) - though anyone who can write Mausoleoum or The Intense Humming of Evil gets a bye

Anyone remember Tetsu from The Faces, Ronnie Lane's replacement? Hardly in the same league, although he could apparently knock back the booze even more than the rest of this particular drinking club.

Glenn Hoddle and Chris Waddle probably set the gold standard, though: absolutely no musical talent whatsoever anywhere in that line up.

On a similar but slightly different tack, what about the genuinely talented but over-looked ones? For example (whatever you might think of them) the lead guitar position in The Eagles is a somewhat poisoned chalice that did for Bernie Leadon and Don Felder. They were both exemplary and under-credited members of the band. And it's not done much for Joe Walsh, apart from his bank account.

As in Kossoff, Kirke, Tetsu and Rabitt. He had a track record of some note even ahead of the Faces, and his bass runs in the live version of Stay with Me may not have been quite up to Plonks standard, but they were pretty good by anyone elses.

As much as I rate The Grateful Dead, Bob Weir finally learned to play guitar somewhere around 1991. Dead soundman Dan Healey was (allegedly) sacked for persistently burying Weir in the mix, he deserved a medal.

It has suddenly struck me that nobody has mentioned Stacia, "statuesque"(TM) dancer with Hawkwind.....

Surely there must've been one of them that didn't do anything?

I mean, there´s got to be one of them who´s somebody´s little brother or sister, no ?