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Ageing
Posted by Native on 13 August 2011 - 9:36pm.
I know it happens and we have absolutely no say in the matter, but tonight I had an experience that made me think about my age.
Now, I'm only 36, but it really got me wondering what people feel about their age. Is it just a number? People seem younger nowadays, and I've always kind of felt I'm younger than my birth certificate suggests, but tonight somebody told me I wouldn't like a pub because it wasn't really aimed at the middle-aged bracket. 36 - middle-aged, no way! The crowd of mid-20s felt 36 was middle-aged, which shocked me!
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I'm over 10 years older than you, but would still balk at being called "middle aged".
Age is only a number. I'm currently in the middle of a teaching degree. Back at Uni after 25 years and loving it. I've just got back from 4 weeks in Vietnam, helping with a school expedition. From there, I came straight up to to Scotland to work in an outdoor centre until term starts again.
I'm fitter, happier, more productive (sounds familiar...) than at any other time of my life. I went on the Vietnam trip with 3 days notice, just dropped everything & made it happen.
I can run 10K in 45 minutes; cycle off-road all day; ski black runs. I climb frozen Norwegian waterfalls and big rock faces in all weathers. This year I walked 200 miles though North West Scotland in 2 weeks and did every mountain peak in Wales in 17 hours.
Sorry, bragging bit there. Of course, I realise none of this would get me into the "right" bars and clubs. Imagine my disappointment.
I'm 48 and I feel knackered just reading that!
One question for the OP though - when you were in your early/mid-twenties how did you perceive people heading towards 40?
Perceptions change over time. I remember being at school and working out that I would be nearly 40 when the new century began and felt sad that I would be too old to enjoy it when it came around.
It really does depend on the individual.
At work, there are five of us who would have been in the same year at school. In the context of the ageing process, we all look different: doubtless it will even out with time, should we make it to real old age together.
In terms of the psychology of ageing, I really can't speak for the others but as a much younger man I would never have dreamed that being early 50s would ever feel like this. And I mean that in a very, very good way.
I've felt middle-aged all my life
I was moaning about that 'new' Bernie Clifton bloke replacing Don Maclean on Crackerjack when I was about twelve years old.
Last year in Singapore
it was pouring in the afternoon so I decided to wait out the weather in the cinema, I purchased a ticket and when I found out the price I said "Five dollars!" in what was an "Is that all?" tone and the (not young) lady behind the counter misread me completely and said "Do you have your senior citizens card with you?" and I said "What?" and she said "We can give you a discount."
At the time I was a not happy 47yo.
I've been 35 since I was 18
and I'm now 54.
I am 54 too
Sometimes by wife tells me I act like a 10 year old - when I look at young ladies I think I am 18. At moment I love my age and how I feel but wont be happy in 6 years time to get a free bus pass.
One of my female friends says
I am very mature: I have reached the grand old age of 7 - most men only make it to 6, in her opinion.
My workmate, who is 33 (I can remember what I was doing on the day he was born, which makes me feel ancient) said the other day that someone asked him what they should get him as a birthday present. 'Just get what you would get for a boy of 10' was his reply. (He is a Proper Man, who builds furniture in his spare time).
Aged
I have been told something tonight that has aged me. Relax. In a good way.
My younger daughter came over to Manchester with her boyfriend and his parents. They were having a night out at the greyhound racing. Never managed to catch the buggers but... where was I? Oh yes, They invited me along. Perhaps they mistook my accountancy qualification for that of turf accountant. Or maybe it was to thank me for minding my grandpuppies for a week when they go off to Greece in a few days.
In a quiet moment at the bar her boyfriend revealed he is planning to propose to her and did I approve. Of course. But. That's my little girl. O.M.G. Flip.
In words taken from the great ELP songbook, "someone get me a ladder!"
Sssh. It's not official yet.
Young at heart
Twenty years older than the original poster and I don't feel it.
Apart from not playing sport any more I still indulge in most of the activities that I enjoyed 10,20 and 30 years ago. Still love my music and still eager to find new bands on which to spend my money, Embrace new technology with both arms. Others who I know and who are the same age have been middle aged since a very early age. It's how you feel and how you act that determines your age not the random year in which you were born
The only time I don't feel like a...
joyous combination of Ebeneezer Scrooge, Albert Steptoe and Alf Garnett is when I'm in the company of my friend Paola's daughter Shani. Quite often she will say something or behave in a certain way and inadvertently stir in me a long-forgotten memory of a childhood that most of the time seems so distant that it might as well have been experienced by someone else.
Old really is the new middle-aged
This gentleman, who looks remarkably - but in a good way - like a Bond villain, is the architect Norman Foster. He's survived cancer. He's survived a heart attack. And he still does a cross-country-skiing marathon every year.
He's 76.
Do you remember Lord Hailsham when was Thatcher's Lord Chancellor thirty years ago - all stooped, wispy-haired, gouty-legged and rheumy-eyed? He was younger than that.
I'd settle for looking like that when I'm 76
I think Norman Foster is one of those fortunate people whose facial features have not sagged as much as would be normal. That and an upright posture make him look youthful for his years.
I really want to look like Samuel Beckett when I'm old.
Either that, or Captain Birdseye.
The mind is the first thing to go...
Whilst I don't think 36 or 48 is old (I'm 40), I wonder when it is that the memory starts to go?
I can give a "for instance". That lead singer of that band that was popular in the mid 90's... do you remember his name? I just had it with Placebo - I could not remember that guy's name. I knew I knew it 10 years ago though.
That, more than creaky knees or advancing rotundity, is what scares me about getting old!
I agree with the other posters who say that getting this old doesn't feel as bad as we feared... but heck, I've not looked at the Singles charts for 5 years, and I never thought that would happen.
Yeah, but...
...10 years ago Brian Wosisname was all over the music press so it's no surprise you knew his name.
Relax - like Macca is fond of saying, the brain only has room for so much stuff and every so often, it gets rid of anything that isn't important.
I read today somewhere
that a man should look 30 years younger than his scrotum. But for the life in me I can't remember where I read it.
Which reminds me
of David Hockney's remark about WH Auden: 'If his face is like that, what must his balls look like?'
For one horrible moment
I read that as "But for the life of me I can't remember where I left it."
Strategies for staying young
Some things you can do to defy age:
- Stay fit.
- Choose the right clothes. It doesn't mean dress like a teenager, but some things look good on anyone between 30 and 80. A little touch of flamboyance can work wonders.
- Always be ready to watch/read/listen to something different.
- Avoid right wing newspapers. Nothing ages someone more than reading the Daily Mail.
- Avoid talking to people about things you remember from your childhood. If you admit to having watched Bill and Ben, Top Cat or Huckleberry Hound you've had it.
- If anybody mentions pounds, shillings and pence, express complete ignorance of the subject.
- If anybody mentions The Old Grey Whistle Test, ask "What's that?"
- Just lie.
Whoops!
Realise that some of those references have probably given away that I was around in the 60s.
Don't worry,
you're probably not the oldest person around here.
Embrace ageing!
-Stay fit but don't leave a well-preserved corpse.
-Dress exactly like you did when you were eighteen; adapting it slightly with contemporary fashion accessories. You'll be trendy for a month, at least three more times in your remaining lifespan.
-Don't force yourself to watch the next new HBO series or read Wired magazine or listen to dubstep. If you'd rather be watching a Hammer horror movie DVD or reading Viz Comic or listening to Desmond Dekker, than so be it.
-Read your parents right-wing newspaper whenever you visit them and constantly 'tut' disapprovingly (like Scouse git (Tony Booth) from the sit-com, T'il Death Us Do Part).
-Talk about old cartoon shows you remember from your childhood with children. My nephew loved me showing him old cartoon shows on YouTube.
- If anyone mentions 'pounds, shillings and pence', you have either met a coin enthusiast, a Timelord or someone with dementia.
- If anyone mentions 'The Old Grey Whistle Test', reply with, " Yes! But I preferred (insert other music show here ie:-Revolver/ Lift Off With Ayshea/ So It Goes,/ Snub TV/ Switch/ The Hitman And Her), "
-Just live.
All this talk of 'your parents' confuses me.
You only start to really feel old when your parents are no longer around and you're fulfilling that role for your kids (and grandkids).
As long as you still have parents to be 'the old' in your life then there's no way you can feel old yourself.
Once you are the 'old man' to your kids and 'grandpa' to your grandkids, then you can feel old :-)
I am now
49 years old, have three kids under the age of 10 and don't feel a day over 72.
My 2 cents
I'm am mere days away from 40, 3 kids so a pretty restrained lifestyle. As a result, I really value that night out I get every week or two and as a result am starting to thoroughly resent a lot of my friends socialising habits (same old dreary old boys boozers, strictly no music and the fewer young people, particularly ladies, the better). A lot of them regard me with a strange awe because I regularly go to gigs, as if I am breaking some kind of ageist omerta. If there was ever a low watermark for hedonism, there it is. Bottom line is that as you age, you should insert some frivolity into your life. Do something daft now and then - there is enough dour repetition in any of our lives. Otherwise, you are just circling the drain....
It's not me getting old that scares me...
It's watching my parents age. I'll be 40 later this year and have barely given it a thought, but my dad is 75 and my mum 69, and it is harrowing to think that they will not be around forever for me and the kids. The last couple of Christmases we were about to book remote holidays when the though occurred that we would be lucky to get another 10 chances to share Christmas with both of them, so we'd better make the most of it. If he lives to 90 he'll see my eldest son turn 21.
Then again my neighbor Frank is 95, lives on his own in a cottage and has transformed the surrounding sub-tropical jungle (lantana mostly) into a cottage garden.