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Advice on buying electronic trinkets

BigJimBob's picture

In the next few days I have a work trip to Honolulu Via LAX. I'd be grateful for bit of advice from the sages on the site. Currently, I do not possess an ipod, iphone or ipad (does this mean I should get my coat and leave now?) Anyway, I am toying with the idea of giving Steve Jobs some of my hard earned cash and buying one of these trickets as an early Xmas pressie to myself. Since I am quite happy with a basic phone and I have about 50G of music, I am thinking about getting ipod classic OR a top end ipod touch as, as far as I can see, this is pretty much an iphone, just without the phone bit.

Two question:

(i) would I actually get a better deal in the states? Indeed, have any of you well-traveled types got recommendation for specific shops in Waikiki (OR LA airport come to that)?

(ii) What do you reckon I should get?

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Classic

Far more storage for cheaper price. I think that makes it a no brainer. Use the difference in money to buy more music. I have a 120 gig model which has over 20000 songs on it with 10 gig to spare. Plus the current models sound great in my opinion if you match them with a decent pair of headphones. I've a pair of Sennheisers CX200 which Amazon have for about 13 quid. Sound lovely.

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SimonL | 8 December 2010 - 1:01pm

Classic

from LA. European Ipods have noise restrictions and US don't. Will also be marginally cheaper. Bought last 2 classics in States.

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mdavies27 | 8 December 2010 - 1:12pm

One thing that comes up with this sort of thing

is plugs on power sockets etc and also there can be problems with warranties not being being honoured in Europe etc for products bought in US.

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Chris G | 8 December 2010 - 1:14pm

Those were the days

It's a long time since Apple bundled anything that plugged into the mains with an ipod but that may be an issue with the ipad but the adaptor can be adapted with a 75p (ish) lead.

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JohnW | 8 December 2010 - 1:24pm

Was just a thought

as i have heard apple user whingeing about the cost of power leads etc and having buy one of these may knock off the saving of buying the thing in america. And the warranty thing is worth checking with a 500 plus quid gizmo.

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Chris G | 8 December 2010 - 1:43pm

Figure 8

Looking at the apple website the only difference between the US ipad charger and the UK one is the cable and it's a standard figure-8 cable which CPC sells for about £1. If only all stuff was as easy.

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JohnW | 8 December 2010 - 2:19pm

Apple warranties

I believe they're international. I asked in an Apple store whether I could buy a Macbook Air in the US and the warranty be honoured here - they said it would be.

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itf | 8 December 2010 - 1:16pm

Apple

I had my US-bought Macbook Pro replaced by Apple over here, but the conversation went something like:

Guy from Apple: "Where did you buy your laptop?"

Me: "In the US"

Guy from Apple: "OK, I won't mention that on the form."

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Fraser Lewry | 8 December 2010 - 1:20pm

Strange (and unnecessary) response*

Warranties are indeed international. Had a Classic bought in NYC replaced (after full and frank disclosure, including production of original invoice) in Manchester, with no quibble other than an apology that my replacement would be noise-limited.

*not from you, Fraser - from Apple Guy - for the avoidance of doubt!

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Paul Waring | 8 December 2010 - 4:39pm

It depends...

The iPod Touch is excellent, but only worth it if you think you're likely to use the additional features - camera, apps, games and so on. If you're liable to just listen to music on it, I'd say go with the Classic. It's an excellent bit of kit, and has a high storage capacity into the bargain.

You probably will get a better deal in the States, but I'd do some research and have a look at the US prices on the Apple website. Apple are quite hot on consistent pricing - I doubt you'd see much if any variation between online and stores - but at least you'd be able to see how they compare to the UK prices in advance and make a more informed decision.

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Andrew F | 8 December 2010 - 1:20pm

Agreed

I would have extended the argument to say that if you have or are intending to get, a smartphone then, unless a Sonos is also on the shopping list (and why not?!) then go for a classic although being solid state means that the Touch should also be a bit more rugged when it comes to "drop testing".
Another advantage with the Classic is that you can change tracks, volume, pause and restart etc while it's in your pocket because ironically you can do it by touch whereas the Touch requires touch and sight.
Don't forget also that if you get caught (either red handed or with a conscience) that you should be paying import duty, VAT etc on the ipad whereas (as long as you haven't splurged on other things as well) you will be able to get away with bringing an ipod in duty free.

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JohnW | 8 December 2010 - 1:35pm

I'd be tempted to go for

an iPad and a small iPod, the nano or even the shuffle. The iPod touch, IMHO, is a nice piece of kit but has rather been overtaken by the iPad and is now neither an iPhone nor an iPad but something of a redundant inbetweener.

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Mark JF | 8 December 2010 - 1:56pm

Eh?

The Classic holds 120 gig of music and fits in your pocket. As far as I know the iPad does neither. They aren't interchangable are they?

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Twangothan | 8 December 2010 - 2:57pm

It's a shame that

you can't get 64GB micro-SD cards.

My dad was mulling over buying an mp3 player with around 8GB storage. I bought him a 8GB microSD card from eBay for a tenner and stuck it in his Nokia phone (which he wasn't aware could play music).

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Brookster | 8 December 2010 - 1:37pm

Busy?

Here's another way of making the decision:
Q. Are you a busy person?

If the answer is Yes then get a classic - The reason? You can't get "Angry Birds" for the classic.

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JohnW | 8 December 2010 - 2:22pm

Classic

I've got the I touch, but in truth after the first few weeks I never used any of the apps. And 8GB sounds like a lot, but isn't really. -1200 songs. With phones, I don't want to do anything other than make calls and text, and that rarely, so I just buy those 5 quid PAYG jobbies from LG. I lose them about once a month anyway, so paying more would be a waste.

There's also the hip factor - Our Techie at work is now carrying around some sort of post-ipad tablet phone thats about the size of a paperback and does ipad plus phone and camera. But I'm starting to think that, frankly, sporting heavy tech is starting to look a bit wanky. An 160gb ipod classic shows yer a serious music dude and not a slavering consumer. So much.

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bathmat | 8 December 2010 - 2:40pm

I'm could be called a "serious music dude"*

and cope perfectly well with 8gb Nokia phone to listen to my music on the move.

*although it makes me toes curl.

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Chris G | 8 December 2010 - 3:04pm

irony bypass alert

x

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bathmat | 8 December 2010 - 3:55pm

Of the same mind

My beloved white 4th gen 20gb iPod is simultaneously full up and dying a battery death so I shall be hoping Santa brings some pennies toward a new one.

My wife has been making 'Oh! Get an iPhone!' noises but I don't want one. They seem wonderful and I've had a play with a couple but I'm the type who after 6 weeks would use it for making one call a day - asking what's for me tea from the train home.

All I want is vast amounts of new space for my music and for it to play for more than a couple of hours.

A 160gb Classic iPod for me.

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Beezer | 8 December 2010 - 5:00pm

Be careful when using your credit card

When it comes to security, I understand that Waikiki Leaks.

I'll, um, get my, um, you know.
*fetches coat and leaves shame-faced*

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drakeygirl | 8 December 2010 - 3:34pm

Hand over that rosette...

I think you know what you've done.

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Beezer | 8 December 2010 - 4:50pm

Go for the 64GB iPod Touch.

I've got a 160GB classic but If I could fit all my songs on a Touch I'd have that in a flash (see what I did there?) They are so much more versatile and fun than a Classic.

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Georgedivided | 8 December 2010 - 3:50pm

The 160 gb iPod Classic...

... is $249 over here. At the current exchange rate that's £158. So you could save yourself £35.

Although you can find chain stores, like Target, selling Apple products as well as the Apple stores themselves, you won't find any deals. They all sell at full MSRP.

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Billybob Dylan | 8 December 2010 - 4:03pm

Have a look at the Dixons at the airport though

I bought my iMac at LHR and got a VATtastic discount and had it delivered to the house when I got back.

From an iPod point of view - get a touch. Classic is great but a touch is simply brilliant for the money. Email, ebooks, games, web browser and loads of other things you don't think you would use until you try them. And its great for watching iPlayer on.

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Leedsboy | 8 December 2010 - 8:19pm

Mmm...

the classic was going great guns and I thought I'd made a decision, but this late touch surge has put me back in a quandary!

Thanks for the advice though. Does seem there are some advantages to a US model of either in terms of the absence of the volume limiter.

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BigJimBob | 8 December 2010 - 9:10pm

thanks for the advice

Thought I should say that, thanks to the advice here, I ended up getting a classic. I figured all the Touch extras I would use (mostly email and GPS) will probably be on the next phone I get anyway. I toyed with getting it in UK duty free - which after considering US sales tax is about £5 cheaper than the buying in the states, but the lack of volume limiter on the US model convinced me to buy at a Apple Store in Honolulu. Once again thanks for the advice, from a happy customer.

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BigJimBob | 13 December 2010 - 12:42am

Good call

That's what I would have done. In fact did.

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Twangothan | 13 December 2010 - 1:09am

Oh yes - don't forget...

... that US prices are shown without sales tax. Depending where you buy it you could pay anywhere up to about 10% in tax. Stop over in Oregon. There's no sales tax there.

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Billybob Dylan | 13 December 2010 - 12:52am

Only paid

about $5 sales tax

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BigJimBob | 13 December 2010 - 12:08pm
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