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Adrian Chiles To Present ITV World Cup Coverage...
Posted by Nicodemus on 19 April 2010 - 12:47pm.
and leaves The One Show/MoTd2:
http://blogs.channel4.com/news/benjamin-cohen-on-technology/2010/04/19/a...
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Are the Beeb
deliberately upsetting some of their better paid "talent" in order to bring the wage bill down? First Ross, now Chiles. Norton next please.
Going further downhill
Adrian Chiles has gone steadily downhill in my view. That fluky-amateur-schtik gets tiring at times and if things are to believed he has thrown his toys out about The One Show, when bringing Chris Evans in for a Friday show is clearly a great decision.
Going to ITV Sport will confirm his decline. I just hope it means Ray Stubbs will come back to the Beeb.
Chiles
Chiles was always better than the show, and his disdain for the trash he had to peddle on it the best reason to watch ('Next, Neil Sedaka gives us his views on an item about the correct way to install a baby's car seat.') The history of BBC presenters who defect to ITV is not a happy one but I wish him all the best.
Chris Hollins
I have read that Chris Hollins is favourite to take over The One Show. It just proves conclusively that the Celebrity shows (esp Strictly) are drawn-out auditions for future work. See also Sargeant, Perkins, that fat bloke with glasses and their ubiquity.
What next - that woman who cleans dirty houses fronting MOTD2 ?
"That fat bloke with glasses"
- hasn't Sir Elt already had a pretty good career?
No, cleaning woman is going to C4
Just after Embarrassing Illnesses, there's a new show called How Clean is Your Arse?
Ray Stubbs
You've got to be kidding!
Stubbs was permanently stuck on the BBC's subs bench for a reason. He may be a competent broadcaster but that's as far as it went.
If that's the case...
Then let's get back to Match of the Day just showing football and post-match interviews, scrapping the punditry and shrinking the analysis. Instantly, two six-figure (allegedly) contracts off the Beeb's outgoings.
Hansen's Post Match Analysis..
..verges on the sublime. I'm a huge Lawrenson fan as well.
However, Shearer's rather obvious insights would sit more easily on ITV and I wish Linekar would ditch the spanish waiter outfit - so there's two potential efficiency savings...
"Spanish waiter outfit"
Liverpool FC? I wish we could ditch them too...
The Curse of ITV
Has anyone's career improved after leaving the BBC to join ITV? Morecambe and Wise? Des Lynam? And whatever happened to Bob Wilson, anchorman?
I think Chiles is a warm, relaxed and witty man and his presence made Match of the Day 2 much better than Saturday's version. He's far too good for gormless GMTV - shame he never took over Radio 5's breakfast show.
He should have replaced Simon Mayo in the afternoon
Better thsn Richard Bacon surely?
Dead right
Logan & Bacon are very light fare after Mayo.
Curse in Deed
I totally concure. I very much enjoy MOTD 2 partly for Chiles and partly for Lee Dixon. Will Chiles end like Des Lynam? I really hope not because that was a great shame. I think in these situations ego speaks as much as money. Repeat 500 times "Your a presenter and you read off an autocue, nothing more".
GMTV must be one of the most simple minded programs ever to appear on prime time tv. When I first saw a section I though was a parody, which it is but not in that way.
I can't decide about him
One minute I think he's a bland as they come professional Brummie with bad dress sense, and the next I think he's a bone-dry national treasure in the making.
He is typical BBC. You can picture him on Nationwide. Can't imagine him on GMTV at all.
F-C, you may know
Whenever these rumours filter out and later prove true, is it a Govt-style 'flag...pole...salutes' thing going on?
I have always wondered whether the rumours about Childs and Bleakley were true. Must have been v difficult for him to stay on if they were.
I can give Christine Bleakley...
something to do if she's going to be at a loose end.
Anything that will stop her talking
I think that's...
...probably what Patrick had in mind.
She'd be allowed to say "Honolulu"..
.
She doesn't do anything for me
no matter how often I ask...
(has somebody turned up the ladometer or whit?-)
I don't know why the thread is heading in this direction...
all I meant is that I could pay her to clean my bathroom or decobweb my ceilings.
wonderful
I shall remember where i was at the inception of this particular euphamism...
is this
a dentistry thing?
Very similar.
In that she'd probably want to have a rinse and spit afterwards.
I thought you had a dicky back Patrick.
So nothing too strenuous in the fantasy department old bean :)
Dicky Back Patrick
I read that and all I could think of was Valerie Singelton.
Then I realised - Sticky Backed Plastic.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
Does anyone actually listen to them anyway?
I thought they were only there to hold the fort while viewers are doing far more important stuff, like making a cuppa, topping up the beer, fetching a sandwich and so forth. I mean, does anyone actually tune in thinking "I really want to watch so-and-so and hear his analysis of why Gerrard and Lampard can't play in the same team"? In fairness, everyone has an opinion so they'll never please all the people all the time. They've got a thankless task at the best and I suspect that they're judged more by the number of people they don't put off than anything else.
Summing up
Adrian Chiles is far preferable to the smiley smiley mien of most TV presenters. Chris Hollins I have only caught occassional sight of but he appears to have a forced jollity and false mateyness about him that makes me want to give him a smack in the chops. But then so do virtually all breakfast TV presenters in particular. Smugness seems to be their default persona.
I can't watch any of it.
Adrian Chiles doesn't come across like that, and I do wonder how he'll fit in on a breakfast sofa. I'll miss him on MOTD2.
I only rarely watch bits of the One Show. Christine Bleakley I can't quite decide about in any respect. She must do a decent job of decobwebbing Frank Lampost's ceilings though.
Trivia corner
I knew he was the son of John Hollins MBE, the former Chelsea, Arsenal, QPR and England footballer. What I did not know was he played football for Charlton, Queens Park Rangers, and Aldershot Town.
You just thought he was the little fat bloke who won Strictly Come Dancing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hollins
Annoying Pipsqueak
- was sh*te when deputising for Colin Murray on Fighting Talk too. Haven't watched Breakfast Telly for years but his 'look at me, look at me' light hearted items made me wish him dead on many a morn. I pay his wages too - effin travesty.
Oh I know
Those 'look at me, look at me' items - FH! And he looks like a munchkin. Actually I noticed on the Strictly final, that his mother and father look identical to him and to one other, a whole family of munchkins.
Damn!
I was hoping they would give him MOTD1. Those gurning buffoons Linekar and Lawrenson are awful, smug pricks! I like the idea of a football presenter not pretending he knows everything, asking questions that prompt an educated answer. Richard Keys does it so well on the Champions League coverage getting Gullit and Souness to open up without interupting them. Chiles was great on MOTD2, it is perfect last programme of the weekend telly, 2 good 2 bad, then bed I for one will miss him, especially with West Brom up next season.
In complete agreement
MOTD2 is far preferable to the Saturday version, except when they feel the need to have the oh-so-smug Hansen on.
One good thing about Chiles transfer to ITV is that it will presumably mean the end of Mr Bland himself, Steve Rider, presenting the football.
Now if one of the UK channels would just hire Eamon Dunphy for the World Cup I would be looking forward to June even more than I am already.
Hear hear on Dunphy
he's the most brilliantly acerbic, insightful, curmudgeonly fuck up as ever had a mike attached to his lapel, but he calls it right more often than he calls it wrong. In Ireland there's a cottage industry grown up around the man...They're missing a trick not putting him on terrestrial here.
I like Chiles a lot
I worry about his doggedly unimpressed act surviving in the world of ITV where they do prefer their presenters to look like somebody who's just arrived on your doorstep to offer to swap your regular soap powder for a new one.
Surely that's...
Danny Baker.
It is Danny Baker
and stop calling me Shirley
Mark Lawrenson
Oh my dear God what a feeble, unfunny prat that man is, however he isn't the worst the BBC have to offer, just remember it could be Alan "it's a disgrace!" Green. This is the commentator who spends more time telling you his opinions on coloured football boots and who should be booked than he does commentating on the match in question, when someone does get booked the referee has always got it wrong and just wants to be the centre of attention.
This article sums up Green, to be honest I could have written it!
http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=2022
As for the Adrian Chiles topic, I think it's been taken a bit out of proportion, he's ok I suppose but nothing special, a bit like his book, "We Don't Know What We're Doing". The BBC aren't really losing a great deal, ITV aren't gaining much, it does make a change however to see an ugly presenter.
Anyone remember Mick Channon?
Agree with you on Mark Lawrenson and Alan Green. I am also inclined to add the ubiquitous Steve Claridge. Less is more, Steve.
But do you remember when they had Mick Channon as the expert for one of the world cups back in the early 1980s? He couldn't stop going on about "The Boy Lin Acre" and started every sentence with "For me, Brian" in a broad west country burr (is it called a "burr"?). Brilliant footballer, dreadful TV analyst. But I liked him for it.
Perhaps another thread altogether - who do we really like? I go with Pat Nevin and Perry Groves at the moment.
Oh yes
I still call him Gary Line-acre after Mick's fantastic punditry at the Spain 86 WC. He also used to say: "get it woide, get it out-woide" a lot.
Perry Groves - brilliant. Some of the best pundits are all the ex-Arsenal pretty decent / OK-ish players: Dixon, Smith, Merson, Nicholas, Stewart Robson, Groves. The worst pundits of all are the ex-Arsenal legends: Adams and Wright.
Two good calls
Nevin and Groves both fine by me.
And as Ol' Big 'Ead said to Channon...
Shup up for a moment and listen to me, you might learn something!
Might be in the minority here
but I like Alan Green. Loads of matches are 'a disgrace' and good on him for saying it. His anti-hype addiction goes down well in my house.
I like Adrian Chiles Too
i'm more interested in the guests they are going to have though, by the way I had to laugh at that Sun ad with Terry Venables singing maybe he should sing the national anthem before each game !
Richard Keys and Eidur Gudjohnsson
show how it should be done tonight on Sky. EG's insights into life at Barcelona and under Mourinho at Chelsea were brilliant. Keys set him up with the questions we wanted answers to and let Eidur educate us. On top of that Souness was as honest and knowledgeable as always, wonderful television. Sky are so good at this stuff part of me wishes they could do the World Cup.
Good point.
I find the BBC a mite too self-satisfied and 'up itself', to be honest.
I know all the objections about the power Sky exerts but their football coverage is absolutely top quality.
Martin Tyler and Andy Gray are the best commentary team around, for my money.
Were you watching the same programme as me?
Richard Keys was as annoying as usual, and Souness was as humourless and uninteresting as ever. The only saving grace was that they left Jamie bloody Redknapp at home. As for Andy Gray, I have a simple method. Listen to what he says, and know that the opposite is true.
But apart from that
it was fine?
Andy Gray - Switch Off!
Andy Gray is the only commentator I know who makes any match intolerable. Motty and the like set a standard which no new commentator comes near to matching. The Rolls Royce of the breed was the late, great Brian Moore. How I wish he was still here. That man had respect from any football fan. When his death was announced in a full, football pub the whole lot fell silent. He was transparently authentic and had humility. How many can you now say that about? Errrr none.
Brian Moore
His head looks uncannily like London Planetarium.
Great man.
Pretty non-committed about Andy Gray, at least he isn't Chris Kamara.
Adrian Chiles Highlights Reel
Oooh Matt Smith on ITV Champions League
So where's Steve Rider. Semis beneath him or toys out of pram.
Good luck to Chiles - he'll be in great company....
So MOTD2 has gone to Colin Murray
Can't say I'm all that surprised, he seems very popular with the Beeb right now. I didn't see his footy coverage on Five but I must admit I'm addicted to Fighting Talk.
Having said that, it's a pity James Richardson was overlooked.
Sometimes you have to give people a chance...
whoever thought we'd be talking about Mayo as 'heavyweight' back when he was on R1?
As noted
Even if the game's awful, the commercial network may tell Chiles to talk it up a tad; can't be having honesty. He's a warm welcome of a presenter, although he may suffer from the restricted time allotted either side of the adverts.
Colin Murray deserves a chance, having skilfully held together Five's football coverage despite the cruel disability of being paired with Stan Collymore.
Next move for the BBC should be to sort out the Football League Show, which manages to alienate the Saturday-sozzled post-MOTD audience. No wonder: although he's improved over the season, the willing but limited Manish Bhasin can't hold a candle to Mark Chapman, and if the BBC can't find a better pundit than Steve Claridge, we're better of without. But most importantly we don't need anyone (female or otherwise) perched on a desk reading out the unnecessary views of Steve From Streatham.