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Adrian Chiles To Present ITV World Cup Coverage...

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Are the Beeb

deliberately upsetting some of their better paid "talent" in order to bring the wage bill down? First Ross, now Chiles. Norton next please.

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Simon Ford | 19 April 2010 - 1:47pm

Going further downhill

Adrian Chiles has gone steadily downhill in my view. That fluky-amateur-schtik gets tiring at times and if things are to believed he has thrown his toys out about The One Show, when bringing Chris Evans in for a Friday show is clearly a great decision.

Going to ITV Sport will confirm his decline. I just hope it means Ray Stubbs will come back to the Beeb.

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kb | 19 April 2010 - 1:57pm

Chiles

Chiles was always better than the show, and his disdain for the trash he had to peddle on it the best reason to watch ('Next, Neil Sedaka gives us his views on an item about the correct way to install a baby's car seat.') The history of BBC presenters who defect to ITV is not a happy one but I wish him all the best.

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Gatz | 19 April 2010 - 2:14pm

Chris Hollins

I have read that Chris Hollins is favourite to take over The One Show. It just proves conclusively that the Celebrity shows (esp Strictly) are drawn-out auditions for future work. See also Sargeant, Perkins, that fat bloke with glasses and their ubiquity.

What next - that woman who cleans dirty houses fronting MOTD2 ?

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kb | 19 April 2010 - 2:37pm

"That fat bloke with glasses"

- hasn't Sir Elt already had a pretty good career?

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Black Type | 19 April 2010 - 3:36pm

No, cleaning woman is going to C4

Just after Embarrassing Illnesses, there's a new show called How Clean is Your Arse?

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Fazackerly | 19 April 2010 - 4:52pm

Ray Stubbs

You've got to be kidding!

Stubbs was permanently stuck on the BBC's subs bench for a reason. He may be a competent broadcaster but that's as far as it went.

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Johan | 20 April 2010 - 4:49am

If that's the case...

Then let's get back to Match of the Day just showing football and post-match interviews, scrapping the punditry and shrinking the analysis. Instantly, two six-figure (allegedly) contracts off the Beeb's outgoings.

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johnlyons121 | 19 April 2010 - 1:57pm

Hansen's Post Match Analysis..

..verges on the sublime. I'm a huge Lawrenson fan as well.

However, Shearer's rather obvious insights would sit more easily on ITV and I wish Linekar would ditch the spanish waiter outfit - so there's two potential efficiency savings...

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walker182 | 21 April 2010 - 8:26pm

"Spanish waiter outfit"

Liverpool FC? I wish we could ditch them too...

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Black Type | 22 April 2010 - 8:32am

The Curse of ITV

Has anyone's career improved after leaving the BBC to join ITV? Morecambe and Wise? Des Lynam? And whatever happened to Bob Wilson, anchorman?

I think Chiles is a warm, relaxed and witty man and his presence made Match of the Day 2 much better than Saturday's version. He's far too good for gormless GMTV - shame he never took over Radio 5's breakfast show.

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Olthwaite | 19 April 2010 - 2:22pm

He should have replaced Simon Mayo in the afternoon

Better thsn Richard Bacon surely?

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 April 2010 - 6:59pm

Dead right

Logan & Bacon are very light fare after Mayo.

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James Helford | 19 April 2010 - 8:08pm

Curse in Deed

I totally concure. I very much enjoy MOTD 2 partly for Chiles and partly for Lee Dixon. Will Chiles end like Des Lynam? I really hope not because that was a great shame. I think in these situations ego speaks as much as money. Repeat 500 times "Your a presenter and you read off an autocue, nothing more".
GMTV must be one of the most simple minded programs ever to appear on prime time tv. When I first saw a section I though was a parody, which it is but not in that way.

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N2Peach | 19 April 2010 - 2:49pm

I can't decide about him

One minute I think he's a bland as they come professional Brummie with bad dress sense, and the next I think he's a bone-dry national treasure in the making.

He is typical BBC. You can picture him on Nationwide. Can't imagine him on GMTV at all.

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Five-Centres | 19 April 2010 - 2:56pm

F-C, you may know

Whenever these rumours filter out and later prove true, is it a Govt-style 'flag...pole...salutes' thing going on?

I have always wondered whether the rumours about Childs and Bleakley were true. Must have been v difficult for him to stay on if they were.

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kb | 19 April 2010 - 3:18pm

I can give Christine Bleakley...

something to do if she's going to be at a loose end.

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Patrick Crowther | 19 April 2010 - 3:48pm
Gatz | 19 April 2010 - 3:52pm

I think that's...

...probably what Patrick had in mind.

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kb | 19 April 2010 - 4:46pm
Lenny Law | 19 April 2010 - 6:16pm

She doesn't do anything for me

no matter how often I ask...

(has somebody turned up the ladometer or whit?-)

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DougieJ | 19 April 2010 - 7:25pm

I don't know why the thread is heading in this direction...

all I meant is that I could pay her to clean my bathroom or decobweb my ceilings.

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Patrick Crowther | 19 April 2010 - 7:31pm

wonderful

I shall remember where i was at the inception of this particular euphamism...

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ivan | 19 April 2010 - 9:19pm

is this

a dentistry thing?

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Glenbervie | 19 April 2010 - 9:01pm

Very similar.

In that she'd probably want to have a rinse and spit afterwards.

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Lenny Law | 19 April 2010 - 10:43pm

I thought you had a dicky back Patrick.

So nothing too strenuous in the fantasy department old bean :)

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Pencilsqueezer | 19 April 2010 - 5:20pm

Dicky Back Patrick

I read that and all I could think of was Valerie Singelton.

Then I realised - Sticky Backed Plastic.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

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Beezer | 20 April 2010 - 8:52am

Does anyone actually listen to them anyway?

I thought they were only there to hold the fort while viewers are doing far more important stuff, like making a cuppa, topping up the beer, fetching a sandwich and so forth. I mean, does anyone actually tune in thinking "I really want to watch so-and-so and hear his analysis of why Gerrard and Lampard can't play in the same team"? In fairness, everyone has an opinion so they'll never please all the people all the time. They've got a thankless task at the best and I suspect that they're judged more by the number of people they don't put off than anything else.

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Mark JF | 19 April 2010 - 5:40pm

Summing up

Adrian Chiles is far preferable to the smiley smiley mien of most TV presenters. Chris Hollins I have only caught occassional sight of but he appears to have a forced jollity and false mateyness about him that makes me want to give him a smack in the chops. But then so do virtually all breakfast TV presenters in particular. Smugness seems to be their default persona.

I can't watch any of it.

Adrian Chiles doesn't come across like that, and I do wonder how he'll fit in on a breakfast sofa. I'll miss him on MOTD2.

I only rarely watch bits of the One Show. Christine Bleakley I can't quite decide about in any respect. She must do a decent job of decobwebbing Frank Lampost's ceilings though.

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ardnortrupshot | 19 April 2010 - 8:39pm

Trivia corner

I knew he was the son of John Hollins MBE, the former Chelsea, Arsenal, QPR and England footballer. What I did not know was he played football for Charlton, Queens Park Rangers, and Aldershot Town.

You just thought he was the little fat bloke who won Strictly Come Dancing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hollins

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Beany | 19 April 2010 - 9:55pm

Annoying Pipsqueak

- was sh*te when deputising for Colin Murray on Fighting Talk too. Haven't watched Breakfast Telly for years but his 'look at me, look at me' light hearted items made me wish him dead on many a morn. I pay his wages too - effin travesty.

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badartdog | 20 April 2010 - 9:15am

Oh I know

Those 'look at me, look at me' items - FH! And he looks like a munchkin. Actually I noticed on the Strictly final, that his mother and father look identical to him and to one other, a whole family of munchkins.

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kb | 20 April 2010 - 9:42am

Damn!

I was hoping they would give him MOTD1. Those gurning buffoons Linekar and Lawrenson are awful, smug pricks! I like the idea of a football presenter not pretending he knows everything, asking questions that prompt an educated answer. Richard Keys does it so well on the Champions League coverage getting Gullit and Souness to open up without interupting them. Chiles was great on MOTD2, it is perfect last programme of the weekend telly, 2 good 2 bad, then bed I for one will miss him, especially with West Brom up next season.

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Dave Amitri | 19 April 2010 - 9:12pm

In complete agreement

MOTD2 is far preferable to the Saturday version, except when they feel the need to have the oh-so-smug Hansen on.

One good thing about Chiles transfer to ITV is that it will presumably mean the end of Mr Bland himself, Steve Rider, presenting the football.

Now if one of the UK channels would just hire Eamon Dunphy for the World Cup I would be looking forward to June even more than I am already.

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Johan | 20 April 2010 - 4:58am

Hear hear on Dunphy

he's the most brilliantly acerbic, insightful, curmudgeonly fuck up as ever had a mike attached to his lapel, but he calls it right more often than he calls it wrong. In Ireland there's a cottage industry grown up around the man...They're missing a trick not putting him on terrestrial here.

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Vorgongod | 25 April 2010 - 9:36pm

I like Chiles a lot

I worry about his doggedly unimpressed act surviving in the world of ITV where they do prefer their presenters to look like somebody who's just arrived on your doorstep to offer to swap your regular soap powder for a new one.

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David Hepworth | 20 April 2010 - 6:50am

Surely that's...

Danny Baker.

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Patrick Crowther | 20 April 2010 - 8:21am

It is Danny Baker

and stop calling me Shirley

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Glenbervie | 21 April 2010 - 7:48pm

Mark Lawrenson

Oh my dear God what a feeble, unfunny prat that man is, however he isn't the worst the BBC have to offer, just remember it could be Alan "it's a disgrace!" Green. This is the commentator who spends more time telling you his opinions on coloured football boots and who should be booked than he does commentating on the match in question, when someone does get booked the referee has always got it wrong and just wants to be the centre of attention.

This article sums up Green, to be honest I could have written it!

http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=2022

As for the Adrian Chiles topic, I think it's been taken a bit out of proportion, he's ok I suppose but nothing special, a bit like his book, "We Don't Know What We're Doing". The BBC aren't really losing a great deal, ITV aren't gaining much, it does make a change however to see an ugly presenter.

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Neil Dyson | 20 April 2010 - 7:05am

Anyone remember Mick Channon?

Agree with you on Mark Lawrenson and Alan Green. I am also inclined to add the ubiquitous Steve Claridge. Less is more, Steve.

But do you remember when they had Mick Channon as the expert for one of the world cups back in the early 1980s? He couldn't stop going on about "The Boy Lin Acre" and started every sentence with "For me, Brian" in a broad west country burr (is it called a "burr"?). Brilliant footballer, dreadful TV analyst. But I liked him for it.

Perhaps another thread altogether - who do we really like? I go with Pat Nevin and Perry Groves at the moment.

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Fazackerly | 20 April 2010 - 9:57am

Oh yes

I still call him Gary Line-acre after Mick's fantastic punditry at the Spain 86 WC. He also used to say: "get it woide, get it out-woide" a lot.

Perry Groves - brilliant. Some of the best pundits are all the ex-Arsenal pretty decent / OK-ish players: Dixon, Smith, Merson, Nicholas, Stewart Robson, Groves. The worst pundits of all are the ex-Arsenal legends: Adams and Wright.

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kb | 20 April 2010 - 10:27am

Two good calls

Nevin and Groves both fine by me.

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Neil Dyson | 20 April 2010 - 11:01am

And as Ol' Big 'Ead said to Channon...

Shup up for a moment and listen to me, you might learn something!

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count jim moriarty | 20 April 2010 - 10:35pm

Might be in the minority here

but I like Alan Green. Loads of matches are 'a disgrace' and good on him for saying it. His anti-hype addiction goes down well in my house.

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Mr Fade | 20 April 2010 - 9:38pm

I like Adrian Chiles Too

i'm more interested in the guests they are going to have though, by the way I had to laugh at that Sun ad with Terry Venables singing maybe he should sing the national anthem before each game !

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MrRadio | 20 April 2010 - 7:32am

Richard Keys and Eidur Gudjohnsson

show how it should be done tonight on Sky. EG's insights into life at Barcelona and under Mourinho at Chelsea were brilliant. Keys set him up with the questions we wanted answers to and let Eidur educate us. On top of that Souness was as honest and knowledgeable as always, wonderful television. Sky are so good at this stuff part of me wishes they could do the World Cup.

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Dave Amitri | 20 April 2010 - 10:15pm

Good point.

I find the BBC a mite too self-satisfied and 'up itself', to be honest.

I know all the objections about the power Sky exerts but their football coverage is absolutely top quality.

Martin Tyler and Andy Gray are the best commentary team around, for my money.

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DougieJ | 20 April 2010 - 10:36pm

Were you watching the same programme as me?

Richard Keys was as annoying as usual, and Souness was as humourless and uninteresting as ever. The only saving grace was that they left Jamie bloody Redknapp at home. As for Andy Gray, I have a simple method. Listen to what he says, and know that the opposite is true.

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count jim moriarty | 20 April 2010 - 10:38pm

But apart from that

it was fine?

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DougieJ | 20 April 2010 - 10:44pm

Andy Gray - Switch Off!

Andy Gray is the only commentator I know who makes any match intolerable. Motty and the like set a standard which no new commentator comes near to matching. The Rolls Royce of the breed was the late, great Brian Moore. How I wish he was still here. That man had respect from any football fan. When his death was announced in a full, football pub the whole lot fell silent. He was transparently authentic and had humility. How many can you now say that about? Errrr none.

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N2Peach | 21 April 2010 - 4:05pm

Brian Moore

His head looks uncannily like London Planetarium.

Great man.

Pretty non-committed about Andy Gray, at least he isn't Chris Kamara.

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Neil Dyson | 21 April 2010 - 7:58pm

Adrian Chiles Highlights Reel


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Fraser Lewry | 21 April 2010 - 3:16pm

Oooh Matt Smith on ITV Champions League

So where's Steve Rider. Semis beneath him or toys out of pram.

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fedoraboy | 21 April 2010 - 8:35pm
walker182 | 21 April 2010 - 8:32pm

So MOTD2 has gone to Colin Murray

Can't say I'm all that surprised, he seems very popular with the Beeb right now. I didn't see his footy coverage on Five but I must admit I'm addicted to Fighting Talk.

Having said that, it's a pity James Richardson was overlooked.

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Malc | 23 April 2010 - 9:50am

Sometimes you have to give people a chance...

whoever thought we'd be talking about Mayo as 'heavyweight' back when he was on R1?

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Nick | 23 April 2010 - 10:20am

As noted

Even if the game's awful, the commercial network may tell Chiles to talk it up a tad; can't be having honesty. He's a warm welcome of a presenter, although he may suffer from the restricted time allotted either side of the adverts.

Colin Murray deserves a chance, having skilfully held together Five's football coverage despite the cruel disability of being paired with Stan Collymore.

Next move for the BBC should be to sort out the Football League Show, which manages to alienate the Saturday-sozzled post-MOTD audience. No wonder: although he's improved over the season, the willing but limited Manish Bhasin can't hold a candle to Mark Chapman, and if the BBC can't find a better pundit than Steve Claridge, we're better of without. But most importantly we don't need anyone (female or otherwise) perched on a desk reading out the unnecessary views of Steve From Streatham.

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Gary Parkinson | 25 April 2010 - 9:19pm
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